1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Can I ask how I got wrote into this episode? 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Because Ashes on holidays, it must be nice, must be 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: must very nice. Welcome back to two doting dads. I 4 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: am Maddie Jay and I am a doting mum Laura Ben. 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: And this is a podcast all about parenting. It is 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: a good, it is a bad. 7 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: It is the relatable is that I don't know them. 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Tackle that was very good. I can't remember that. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: I've listened to this podcast a couple of times. You 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: guys are very good. Ash is also exceptional, So I've 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: got big shoes to feel. 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Okay, that episode you listened to in the car that 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: was on the drive down the South coast, that was 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: probably one of our best episodes we've ever done. And 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: I was so nervous because I was like, oh, I 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: don't need to listen and judge me. And I was 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 2: listening to it back and I was thinking, this is 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: one of the best EPs we've ever done. Ever. 19 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: To give context to that, So we were driving down 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: to the house. I don't know if you've spoken have 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: you spoken. 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: About the house every week? 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: Okay, right, Tamha must be nice. So we we were 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: driving down to the house that we're renovating down South, 25 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: and Matt was like, Okay, I need to listen to 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: this episode just to kind of give it the one 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: sover it's been edited. It won't take long. And I 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: was genuinely surprised by how good it is. Not that 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: I had any doubts me or Ash or both, just 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: the chemistry unparalleled. Thank you anyway, thank you, thank you 31 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: for having me back. 32 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Our listeners know that obviously. 33 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: I also am now a listener. So and also, god. 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: Damn it, I fucking hate that you're like like, oh 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: my gosh, we got another million downloads, and you're like 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: you're over there, like at a buffet table of like 37 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: wings and steak and chicken and Ashna I here with. 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: Like your fucking socks on your microphone, rolling around in 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: cat hair. 40 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: Just battling every single week, whereas you're over there. 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of cats. I want to talk to you 42 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: about Raspberry. 43 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Please tell me you're thinking about it. It averse. I don't 44 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: know before before sorry, what happens normally this part Laura 45 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: is Ash and I will have a beer and then 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: we have. 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: You know how much I love beer so well? 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: You do like beer. You have had a stony before 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: and you were like, oh my god, this is really delicious. 50 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, fuck yeah, my wife's one of 51 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: those cool women who drink beer. 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: You're trying to call me a pick me was I like, oh, 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: I drink beer now, it will impress my husband. 54 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: And I just saw, yeah, all you have to do 55 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: is play cricket now, and fucking there we go, grow 56 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: mustache and peg mey? 57 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: Is this what you and Ash do when I'm not home? 58 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: This is this is literally like the man of people 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: who were like you and Ash are clearly fucking each other? 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Can you please change the sheets? You do record from 61 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: our house? 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: We did? We did. We're out there one undred hundred 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: episodes and I did a little call out being like, hey, guys, 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: what should we do to celebrate? And this one each 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: other called David was like, cover yourself and oil and 66 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: then record a podcast and then wrestle and film it. 67 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: We're like, all right, David, we'll do it for the 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: right feet. 69 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: That's for the only fans channel. You can't give that 70 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: content away for free. No one's forcing you. 71 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: If it gets us a new listener, all. 72 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Right, look, let's do the very lucrative stone Wood sponsorship. 73 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: Okay, This is oligatory craft for before you sorry, rush 74 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: into that attack that beer with your fingernails. This is 75 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: the Hinterland big Ale. May I just give you a 76 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: little description, Laura, of the drink you're about to have. 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: It says mandarin, citrus, peel and pine Eclipse. That sounds 78 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: like a summer holiday. 79 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: It's got mint in there. 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I hate mint. 81 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't have mintent? Oh god sake, Laura. No one is 82 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: making beer, and especially a brand as good as Stone. 83 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: What is making a beer with eclipse mints in it? 84 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: What does it say? Clips? 85 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: It says at the top it says Eclipse, mandarin, citrus, 86 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: peel and pine. 87 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: I don't know what the eclipse means. Let me see, 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: just hear. 89 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: It also says pineapple, pine and herbs. So it could 90 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: have mint in it because mint is a herd. 91 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: Okay, this is a Hinterland pale Ale full flavored. It's 92 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: a limited edition, though, Laura, and it's a balanced pale 93 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 2: ale lighting up the Southern Cross with ossy ossy clips. 94 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. 95 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: Let's try it well, run in because if it's limited release, 96 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: it won't last long. Ah. I just squirted myself. 97 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: That's what she said. 98 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: That's usually ash all right, very happy. I can get 99 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: around it. But you again, all right, let's go on. Raspberry. 100 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: That's sorry, that's not the Raspberry is not in the can. 101 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: I want us to talk about the cat. 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't be surprised. There's a lot of like 103 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: for your notes on this. Before we go on, I 104 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: just have to say that if you want to get 105 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: your hands on this beer the Hinterland Big pal Al, 106 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: head down to Dan Murphy's a bws around the country 107 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: or jump on their website Stonewood dot com dot au 108 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: and get it delivered to your door. Laura Burn, I. 109 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: Would like to know your honest opinions on the cat. 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: Ah, she fucking sucks. 111 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: You hate it, don't you? I see you look our 112 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: cat with such distain. And to be fair, she's a 113 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: real She's a real like bus shelter cat. So she 114 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: for anyone who's not aware, I don't know how much 115 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: the story you've told. We got her through a rescue. 116 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: She came from a literal bus shelter and she has 117 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: like real scrappy vibes, Like she kind of looks at 118 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: us sometimes and she's like, why the fuck did you 119 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: take me from my home. I liked being in the 120 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: bus shelter. This place is too cushy. She tries to 121 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: shred like the kids. Every time the kids walk past, 122 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: she tries to scratch them. 123 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Every single time Lola walks past her. I thought it 124 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: would be yeah, literally like swiping out it with her 125 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: like claws hanging out. 126 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: She does the same to Nana, and Nana can't run 127 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: very fast. 128 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: Nana fucking hates that cat. 129 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: I know she does. 130 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: You do too, No, no, only because Laura, we have 131 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: to hang with the cat at home and not around 132 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: and all the cat does is like it just fucking 133 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: scratches everything, and it just like shits and pisses all day. 134 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: And then if you leave any food on the kitchen bench, 135 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: like doesn't matter how many times you've been like, ah, 136 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: don't get up there, it will just fucking take it. 137 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: It does. It does do all of those things. But 138 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: she's cute too, and she does like a little head scratch. 139 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Does she though not really does she. 140 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: She's very wild. I think she's quite close to being 141 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: like a leopard or something. 142 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: I mean, every time we go outside for any reason, 143 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: she is like she is like a prisoner who's been 144 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: in isolation. Its whole entire life, and it's just gagging 145 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: to go outside. 146 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: I think Raspberry hates living with us as well. 147 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: I don't think no one's enjoying the situation at all. 148 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Oh, we give her a good home. I really try. 149 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 150 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: Are you happy though? 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: I do love her? 152 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? I'm happy? Hand on hard? Do you? 153 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: I wish she was nicer to me, but yes, I 154 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: do like it. I just wanted to want to cuddle me, 155 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: but she doesn't want to. 156 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: How does she compare to your other cat? What was 157 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 2: its name? Ninja? 158 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: Ninja? Look for anyone who's who doesn't know my Instagram handle, 159 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: Lady in a Cat. Go throw your follow Lady in 160 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: a Cat? 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: Well, hang on a seconds. 162 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: The reason why it's Lady in a Cat is because 163 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: once upon a time, when Matt and I first met, 164 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: I had a cat and his name was Ninja, and 165 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: I would always say that Ninja was quite like a 166 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: dog like. He would do things that Buster would do 167 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: because they were best friends. I'd hang out together. I'd 168 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: take Buster for a walk, Ninja would come with us. 169 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: We'd all go for a walk around the park together. 170 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: He would sleep in my bed at night time, he 171 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: was super cuddly. And every time I describe Ninja to Matt, 172 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Matt's like, well, you don't like cats, you like dogs. 173 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: You just want another dog. 174 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: No, I think that's why I had. I had Ninja 175 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: for Muster, been like a couple of months. 176 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't like him either, though, but he was beautiful. 177 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Did I not like Ninja? 178 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: I think Raspberry will improve. She's still a kitten. She 179 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: needs some time. She's got that real bush shelter vibe 180 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: about us. She's just got to get out of the 181 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: scrappiness and in it. You know, a year's time, she's 182 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: going to be living here in Bondai in a lap 183 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: of luxury, like she just. 184 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: Wants to be out there working the streets. 185 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: She does. 186 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: She does. 187 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a good reference. 188 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: Doesn't suit this lifestyle. 189 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Let me tell you. All my brain was doing then 190 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: was figuring out whether what you were saying was going 191 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: to get me canceled. 192 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 2: I fucked the cat. It was once. I regret it. 193 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, look ashes away, I am filling in. It 194 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: is a one show only I would like to maybe two. 195 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: You haven't told me. 196 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: That, maybe too. We're not sure. I forget when Ash 197 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: comes back. 198 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: I would like to point out that, because I, you know, 199 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: podcasts for a living, I came to this prepared. 200 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm recording. Am I recording? 201 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm recording. 202 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 2: If that if my camera angler is not good, I 203 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: don't want to sound like a DV here. 204 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's your face. I can't change the 205 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: way you look. 206 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 207 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: So I came to this recording today with several points. 208 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: The camera's good, You're good. 209 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 210 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: I've written down Raspberry, Matt peas in the pool period, 211 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: nappy Lola falling asleep on helicopter, penis slap, crying, penis slap, 212 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: bribing Lola, and I would like to point out that 213 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: you have prepared nothing. How we roll, baby, Well, it's 214 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: good to see someone's doing the heavy lifting here. 215 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: That's how we rob because Laura, I just I wanted 216 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: to give you the opportunity to show everyone on two 217 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: doting dads how funny you are. This is about you, 218 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: not about me. 219 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: It's because you did no preparation. But it's all right. 220 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: At least we've got someone here to steer the ship. 221 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: As you guys know, we have just gotten back from 222 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: a cruise and I've learned a valuable lesson over the 223 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: last couple of days because I have been loudly and 224 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: proudly telling everyone that I am now a cruiser. I 225 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: am a cruiser. I love to cruise. I am a cruiser. 226 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: You've been ridden by the cruise bug. Yeah. 227 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: I also found out today that's saying that you like 228 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: to cruise means that you like to solicit sex. You 229 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: cruise for sex. It's a like a It's like a 230 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: term that used to be used for people who like 231 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: hide out in parks. And when I have sex with people, 232 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: it's not look at us like Mitch told you that 233 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: didn't know it's true. I googled it today. I said 234 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: it to my boss last night, who works in radio. 235 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I am cruiser. And kiir On who 236 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: runs ARN, was like, you need to stop saying that 237 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: to people. 238 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: Gay slang term. Yeah. In the sixties, people would cruise 239 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: to arrange. Okay, I think it's fine. 240 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Well we cruis loud and proud. 241 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 2: You're a cruiser. 242 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: We are cruisers, and we were both very guilty of. 243 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: Turning our noses up with people who would take cruises. 244 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: I would look at those people as the type of 245 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: people who would have fake plants in the house. Yeah. 246 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: I honestly remember saying I would rather eat my own 247 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: shit than go on a cruise. And so I said that, 248 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: and that you went on the last Pano cruise, you 249 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: took Nana, you took the kids, and I preference going 250 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: to work overgoing on that cruise. Like I could have 251 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: moved work around, but I was like, we don't want 252 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: to go on the crew. 253 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: You didn't want to go. I was so annoyed, and 254 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: you couldn't come in that cruise. 255 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: I was like, Nah, not for me. Cruising is not 256 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: for me. But this time, so this trip, my mum's 257 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: had a really, really tough year and she really wanted 258 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: to go on this cruise as well. And so it 259 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: turned into Matt organizing it. Ellie was going, my mum 260 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: wanted to go. Matt invited his sister. My sister then came, 261 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: My brother flew in from the United States. He came 262 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: as well, and there was fifteen of us and seven 263 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: of those were children. 264 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 2: And that, to me, on paper, would be an absolute 265 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: disaster for me. Anything that requires like multiple groups, I 266 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: could do two groups awful, maybe three, But we had 267 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: fifteen people, fifteen people in the group. 268 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: I honestly thought we would be tolerating this trip. I 269 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: was like, cool, we're going to go on a family cruise. 270 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: It's going to be awful. We will tolerate it, and 271 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: everyone's going to come home exhausted. We got there on 272 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: the first day, and I want to say this, I 273 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: know that you guys have been working with p and O. 274 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: I personally have not been working with p ANDO. I 275 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: did not care at all about the whole situation. I 276 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: had so much fun on that first day. Everything was 277 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: so seamless. It was so easy that I was like, oh, 278 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: is this the point where I sit here and eat 279 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: my own shit? 280 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 3: Like? 281 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: Do I do it at dinner time? Do I do 282 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: it for disa dinner? I had so much fun, and 283 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: I think it was for me. It was the lack 284 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: of the logistical planning, because when you go on a 285 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: big family holiday, the thing that's the most annoying thing 286 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: is the fact that you have to organize the taxi 287 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: to get to dinner or you guys, you all get 288 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: to the beach and then it's windy and the kids 289 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: are having a shit time and you got to figure 290 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: out like a solution when we. 291 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: Were all on the cruise. It's the transitioning as well, 292 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: of like you got to get the kids ready, They've 293 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: got to book the taxi, got to wait for the taxi, 294 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: the taxi is late, all of a sudden, you're too 295 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: close to dinner time, so you're not even at the restauran, 296 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: but the kids are already hungry and they getting upset. 297 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: So all of that is it's just a nightmare totally. 298 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: So it's all that logistic. It's the mental admin that 299 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: makes holidaying and big groups really annoying. And so going 300 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: on this cruise where everything was contained, like there was 301 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: this one day where the weather wasn't great and we'd 302 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: plan to take the kids to the pool, and we 303 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: got to the pool and everyone was cold and everyone 304 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: was complaining, and we're like, oh fuck, what are we 305 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: going to do now? And then we all looked at 306 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the itinery and somewhere on the boat there was karaoke, 307 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, at two o'clock in the afternoon, 308 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the kids are there doing karaoke. So, yeah, I am 309 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: a born again cruiser. 310 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: It's fucking great. 311 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: You'll find me in your gay park. I will be there. 312 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. People have been coming up to 313 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: me being like, was it actually that good? It's like 314 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: a cult. 315 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: It's a cult. 316 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, just come and try it. 317 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: Just just have one day, one session, that's all you need, 318 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: and then you'll be converted. It's the most fucking life 319 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: changing experience other than like becoming a father I've ever experienced. 320 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, I know you guys talk about like parenting side 321 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: of things, So I mean, this was something that happened 322 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: whilst we were away, and I wanted to bring it 323 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: up with you because I have realized I do something 324 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: as a mum which is probably not I mean, I've 325 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: fallen into the habit of doing it, but I'm not 326 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: particularly proud of it. I guess I would say I've 327 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: fallen into the habit of bribing our children. Okay, if 328 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I want them to do something, I'd be like, you 329 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: can't have that unless you do this. We can't have 330 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: that unless you finish this. 331 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: But also not to attack you here, Oh god, Laura. 332 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: Something else you do is you make big threats. Yeah, 333 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: big threats. They always say that they ever make a 334 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: threat to your children that you can't follow through on. 335 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: They're not that. Give me an example, You're. 336 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: Like, I will kill your father unless you finish your 337 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: chicken nuggets. 338 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: You can't. And I'm like, Laura, you can't say that. 339 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: You make big threats. I can't think of the exact 340 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: ones that you make. But you're the type of, Oh, 341 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: say we're getting off the boat. We're in the middle 342 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: of the ice. Yeah, We're like, we're in the Pacific 343 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: right now, cannot see land. And Laura's like, we will 344 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: get off the boat right now unless you come here 345 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: and put your shoes on. 346 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I haven't quite mastered the art of like, 347 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: what isn't it? What is an appropriate threat? So we 348 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: were at dinner this one night and Lola wasn't eating 349 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: and she was being absolute pain on the ass. Like 350 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: I like Lola and I we we can vibe down. 351 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I feel like normally I can. I feel like normally 352 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty good communicator with Lola, and I can 353 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: get her to do things that you, for example, can't 354 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: do because she likes me more. 355 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: Just I love how sensitively you approach that one. She 356 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: fucking does not like you. 357 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Because I'm her favorite parents, she said. She even said 358 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: on the cruise, Matt was like Lola doesn't like me, 359 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and she goes, Daddy, I love you, and you go, well, 360 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: can I have a hugger? She goes, oh, no, she's right. 361 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: Do you think okay? Do you think there's any correlation? 362 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: Just really quick to throw this out and get your 363 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: thoughts before you continue your story. Do you think there's 364 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: any correlation in the fact that you and Lola look 365 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: like each other and me and Marley look like each other, 366 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: that we're kind of like because we're so similar, that's 367 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: why we get along so well. Because you know, me 368 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 2: and Marley are pretty tight, you and Lola pretty tight. 369 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: Is there a connection there or is it just coincidence? 370 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: Do you think it is mildly narcissistic that we named 371 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: our child Marley Matti and Lola and Laura, but it's. 372 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: Mattie j Marley May. Yeah, it's fucking weird. We did parents. 373 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: We didn't plan it. It just happened. And then someone 374 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: pointed it out when Lola was like six months and 375 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's too far to go, Like, 376 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: it's gone too far. 377 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: What have we done? Who are we? What have we done? 378 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: I's any connection there? No, I don't think that Lola 379 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: likes me because she thinks I look like her. I 380 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: think that's a weird No, you. 381 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: Look like each other. But just because you guys are 382 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: like you were just cut from the same cloth, Like 383 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: you're obviously the same DNA, but you're just like you 384 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: know how, you have like a bit of a weird 385 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: rib cage. 386 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: It's a condition we have, pectus excavatam. I think it's 387 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: called you know, I once dated a guy, right so, 388 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: he was a cardio thoracic surgeon, and the first time 389 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: I took my shirt off, he went, you know, you 390 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: can fix that. That's what he said to me. 391 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: Ah, are you prick crushed? Could you fix it? 392 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: Though? 393 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get an operation. Let's do it for 394 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: anyone who is so confused by what we're talking about. 395 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: I have a hole in my chest, like my my 396 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: rib cage goes right in. It makes my boobs look 397 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot bigger than they are. But when I'm laying down, 398 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of look a bit deformed. 399 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: Lola has it a little bit as well. 400 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's why we connect, man. 401 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: Because you guys have the same ribcage. 402 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, let's move on to the story at dinner 403 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: this one night, Lola was being a little bit hard 404 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: to manage, and I have been using bribery increasingly. I've noticed, 405 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: like I've clocked it. Okay, I'm not proud of it. Anyway, 406 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: she wouldn't eat her dinner and I said to her. 407 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: I was like, Lola, you gonna eat eat your pizza, 408 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: or we're going back to the room and there will 409 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: be no donuts. So she this. I said, yeah, I'd 410 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: said this a few times, right, So then I had 411 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: to follow through because she and I know Lola, like, 412 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: if she's wants something, she's stubborn as hell. But the 413 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: second I pick her up and I look as though 414 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to follow through with the action, she goes, no, no, no, 415 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I'll eat it. I'll eat it. So she wouldn't eat 416 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a dinner, and I was like, that's it, Lola, no 417 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: dessert for you. We're going back to our room. So 418 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: I pick her up and we get to the front 419 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: door and she has a full meltdown in the doorway 420 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: of the restaurant, like like a puddle of humans, kicking 421 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: and screaming and everything else. And then I picked her 422 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: up and I was like, no, Lola, there is no 423 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: dessert tonight, we're going back to the room, and she goes, okay, Mommy, 424 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: I am very very, very very very tired. I am 425 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: very tired. And I was like, fuck, I actually want to desert. 426 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to go home to the room, so 427 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: I was like, we're going back to the table when 428 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: you're going to eat. 429 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 2: It's so fucking annoying when the bribe doesn't work. 430 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: It didn't work, and then I realized that she's clopped it. 431 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: She knows I'm not going to carry through with it anymore. 432 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: So the bribery no longer works. 433 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 2: You have ruined our children. 434 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: I got broken by a three year old. 435 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: It was only a matter of time. 436 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: It was she's genius. Though she's a smart kid. 437 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: I think she was just so utterly exhausted though I 438 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 2: don't think she knew exactly what she was doing. 439 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: No shame though, I will stop bribing that. 440 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 2: Did you give a donnuts to the end? 441 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 442 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: She had a donut? I ate them too. You had 443 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: a great time. 444 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: I go back to your list, Laura, there was an 445 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: item on there that it was a total accident, and 446 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: accident not because of it happening. I knew it was happening. 447 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: Spit it out. 448 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: There's an accident that you found out about it. I 449 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: was peeing in the pool and the okay, in my defense, 450 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: in my defense, the toilets were very far away. 451 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: Inconveniently far away, inconvenient right, And it was also a 452 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 4: little bit windy as well, so I didn't want to 453 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: get out of the pool dry myself off, because you 454 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 4: can't like walk stopping wet through you know, the corridors 455 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 4: of the ship. 456 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm just going to do a 457 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: quick little we wii. 458 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: I think just call it a wee wee, quick little 459 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: we wie. I think I just discovered a new dick 460 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: and that there is nothing attractive about a thirty seven 461 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: year old man describing going to the toilet as doing 462 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: a we. 463 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: We Well, that's unfortunate for you, wow, because fucking married 464 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: to me and daddy has to we week. 465 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Daddy's got a wee wi Okay, we're all in a pool. 466 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: It's a small pool. It is a pool where the 467 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: kids are playing we're playing wall. It was a small 468 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: It was the smallest pool on the boat. 469 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: So it was like imagine, imagine it was at least 470 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: fifteen meters it's a small pool twenty five meters. 471 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: I swim over to Matt to give him a loving embrace, 472 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: and I was like fuck. 473 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: Fuck fik five frank flak fike five funk because I 474 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: had just started to wee and I look over and 475 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: You're like a coming for me, and you just had 476 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: this look in your eye where you were like I 477 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: want to cuddle. You're like you're like having a moment 478 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: where you were like, this is great. I want to 479 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 2: now embrace my husband and just have like a little 480 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: beautiful moment between us. 481 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: And I did embrace you, and I had pissed, like Matt. 482 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: Streaming out my jab sigh. Sorry, I apologize, Are you okay? 483 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: I was just like weeing profusely, so I. 484 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: Wrapped my arms around that. And I also he's kind 485 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: of like sitting spotting and I tried to sit in 486 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: his lap, which in that moment is when I realized 487 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: that I was surrounded by a warmth. 488 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 2: Could you feel it? Yes? 489 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: That was not very nice. And this is where I 490 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: want to ask the question for everyone listening, is this 491 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: something that we're doing as adults, like as adults, so 492 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: we're still pinging in the pool and no one's talking 493 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: about it. 494 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: It's like you're cool of doing it. They're just not 495 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: talking about it. And you can't ask the question because 496 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: people will say, oh my god, I never do that. 497 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: They all do it. 498 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: Pull it, put it up on your two doting dad's Instagram. 499 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: I want the polls. I want to know because I think, 500 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: for example, I think a lot of adults pick their nose, right, 501 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: they just do it when they're in the car. They 502 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: do How else do you get the boogers out right? 503 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: Everyone's picking their nose. No one's going to admit to it. 504 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: Is it something like that? Like? Am I have I 505 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: misunderstood this? Are we still peeing in the pool as adults? 506 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 2: Did you we in the pool? No? 507 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: I didn't. I was cold and then they went to 508 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: the bathroom, but you beet in the pool? And I 509 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: was like, I guess, are we all doing it? Just 510 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: like I don't think we should endorse it. I think 511 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: that the answer is surprisingly or maybe not surprising. I 512 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: think the answer is going to be no. I think 513 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: people are not doing this. 514 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: For the record, it was one time only. I never 515 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: normally do that in a pool. 516 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I doubt it. Also, it's kid pool, it's full of 517 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: piss It's fine. 518 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: I mean the kids. Okay, this is going to sound 519 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 2: so bad. But Lola at the time, not many people 520 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 2: were in the pool, and Lola was like, I need 521 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: to do a wee wieze and I was just like, ah, 522 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: you're good, last kid. Let it run free. 523 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: And then Peano was never sponsoring you again. 524 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 2: And then and then I think Alisha was like, Tazzy, 525 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: who is Alisia your sister? Tazzy her daughter? There we 526 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: go makes sense perfect. Tazzy was like, I need a 527 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 2: wee and Alicia goes, do not do it in the pool, 528 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: and Lola goes, I am, And I was like, ah, 529 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: that's my kid. Our entire family is just pissing in 530 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: the pool. Nana Ellie as well was just like squatting 531 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: over there doing a pisso also yeah, but she got. 532 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: Home, but she wears Tina pads anywhere. Well, with all 533 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: of those little topics that I brought out of the way, 534 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't recording. You're kidding, Jake. Sorry, Let's get into 535 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: the questions that you guys asked, because Matt you put 536 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: up a question box on Instagram. You asked whatever relationship parenting, 537 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: I don't know whatever questions you have for us, and 538 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: we're going to do our best answer them. Question number one, 539 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: this is one. Wow. All right, let's get straight to 540 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: the point. How's the sex life with your mum living 541 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: with you? Guys? Now, so if you are not aware, 542 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure most of you are. We live with Matt's mum. 543 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: She moved in with us maybe six months ago. 544 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I think I think it's I think it's improved. 545 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 2: I reckon. 546 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: Okay, why would you suggest that it's improved? 547 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: Okay? As an example, Okay, we're away for four nights. Right, 548 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 2: We're in a room where it's a sofa pull out 549 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: bed and we've got that our bed, so there's no 550 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: kids room. 551 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: There's also no hanky pay here happening When you share 552 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: a room with your children, even though they're asleep and 553 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: they're in another bed and everything else, and there's a 554 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: distance between you, if you can still spot them from 555 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: across the room, ain't nothing happening in household. 556 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 2: We floated with the idea of maybe like doing it 557 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: in the bathroom. 558 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: You floated. I said, no, it was I put it. 559 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: Out to the group. You knocked it back. The reason 560 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: why I think the sex life has gotten slightly better 561 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: thanks to my mum. Right, hear me out is the 562 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: fact that the only reason why we were able to 563 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: have sex on the boat, right is because my mom 564 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 2: took the kids. 565 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean that's she just came away on 566 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: the holiday with us. Yeah, it's not like a living 567 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: together situation. We don't haven't improved sex life because your 568 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: mom's here. Have you do like your mama? 569 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: We haven't. Don't make it sound weird like that. We 570 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: should utilize her more in that there's a park down 571 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: the road, Okay, we. 572 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: Because she likes cruising too. 573 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're really layme Laura in that when we 574 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: get like a little window of free time on the weekend, 575 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 2: you and I will go to the gym. 576 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah we do that? 577 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 2: Is that lame? Is that lame? 578 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: It's not lame. 579 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: We just like, you know, I think other parents out 580 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: there they must be like, oh no, I would do 581 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: that too, like I would get some exercise. Okay, we 582 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: have the option. Okay, we have the option right now 583 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: when we get this little window of free time, we 584 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: could have sex, but instead we opt to then get 585 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: in the car, go to the gym and work out 586 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: for forty five minutes. 587 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: But the reason why we do that, and just to 588 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: add context to it, the reason why we do that 589 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: is because your mum would just be downstairs with the kids. 590 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: Like it, there's nothing down the park okay, because there's 591 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: nothing sexy about sneaking upstairs and going for it when 592 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: you know that the children are downstairs watching Frozen and 593 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: Nanea is making a bolonaise like it doesn't doesn't get 594 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: me going. Surprisingly, that's fine. I would say that the 595 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: things are the same. Sex life is the same. We 596 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: always find our house is quite good because Ellie lives 597 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: in it. She lives at the very front of the 598 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: house and we're at the very back of the house, 599 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: so we've got a little bit of distance between us. 600 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: The only thing, and it's more criticism of you and 601 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: your memory, Matt, because Matt has like sex blindness. I 602 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: would call it so like we could have sex on 603 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: a Friday and then have sex six days later, so 604 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: like on the Thursday the following week, and Matt will 605 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: be like, we've not had sex for a month, and 606 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: he will say that every single time, we on average 607 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: have sex every single week, and you act as though 608 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: we've had sex once since twenty two. 609 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: I am so guilty of that, so bad. 610 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: And You're like, our relationship is so hard. 611 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't even know you anymore. 612 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: Because it's been four days. 613 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: I'm over here starving, starving for any bit of affection. Yeah, 614 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: and it's actually been like twenty four hours. I also 615 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: sex the day before. 616 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: I know. Any time that you're like getting like a 617 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: little bit frustrated by anything, I'm like, you're either hungry 618 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: or you need a special cuddle. And then you're good. 619 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: You're so easy, You're such an easy person to read. 620 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: I then fuck me more. 621 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't have time, and me more. I've got to work. 622 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: I've got a job. I've got multiple jobs. 623 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: I know. I it's not my fault that I love 624 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: you and I love being with you. Okay? Is that 625 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: a crime? Does that make me a bad person? 626 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: Can you blame the guy? 627 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: This one is from mon Hug, Mon Hug, thank you 628 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: for your question. She asks, when did you feel like 629 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: you two were thriving not surviving with two kids? 630 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm still surviving. I'm not thriving. 631 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: We have tiny pockets where we thrive. 632 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've ever hit a consistent run 633 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: of thriving. I think sometimes it can look like that 634 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: on social media because you're only post the photos of 635 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: the fun staff and the good stuff. I feel as though, yeah, 636 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: exactly like you said, we have these little moments where 637 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: like things kind of work really seamlessly, and then you 638 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: end up in a new phase of parenting your kids, 639 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: going through some regression about something, just the bribing stops working, 640 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you don't feel like 641 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: you're thriving anymore. So I don't know if I ever 642 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: have felt particularly like I'm killing it as a parent. 643 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: You have a tiny window where let's say the house 644 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: is being cleaned. Okay, let's say it's a Sunday. 645 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: Whisper it to me. 646 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: We've had like a homebody Sunday where we've cleaned the kitchen, 647 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: we put the washing away, you know, like we're on 648 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: top of all the daily boring tasks that we have 649 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: at home. I've done some gardening, the kids have been fed. 650 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: When you have filled that green bin, oh stop it excited. 651 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: It's like that. Sorry, I forgot to add that to 652 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: the list. Feed you have sex with you feel the 653 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: green bin. 654 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: Oh, that's all it takes. But when you have those 655 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: little pockets and you're like, I feel like I'm on 656 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: top of everything. You're like, this is fucking great, and 657 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: then it doesn't last for more than half an hour 658 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: and the kids start drawing in the walls and start 659 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: having an attack at each other, and then it all 660 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: unravels pretty quickly. 661 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: I do think though, having kids at are three years 662 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: old and five years old. I remember when I first 663 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: had Mali or I first had Lola, and I would 664 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: ask people that had older kids, like, does it get 665 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: any easier? And people who had older kids would always say, 666 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't get easier, it's just different, and I disagree. 667 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: I actually genuinely think now that the kids are older, 668 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: it is getting easier and easier. It's getting more and 669 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: more manageable, and so I kind of feel like that's 670 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: a real scare tactic for people who have younger kids. 671 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: It's like, well, I still have it just as hard 672 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: as you do. If you have little kids, you by 673 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: far have it the hardest because they're so dependent on you. 674 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: And now that our kids play together so well, you know, 675 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to say the independent because obviously they're not, 676 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: but like I feel like we're they. 677 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: Drive themselves a daycare. They're now working part time jobs. 678 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: They packed their own lunchboxes. I mean, you joke, but like, yeah, 679 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: the kids, the kids are great, and I feel like 680 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: it's getting easier and easier and we've got the parenting 681 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: thing a little bit more downpat, But I don't feel 682 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: like we're thriving. 683 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: And I do think as well. Daycare makes a huge difference, 684 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: a huge difference. Once you can have some time away 685 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: from the kids and they're both in daycare, Like, that's 686 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: a total game changer. You feel like you've got yourself 687 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: back again. 688 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean it's always got. 689 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 2: Out to the parents who don't use daycare. How the 690 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: fuck do you do that? 691 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're the real saints. 692 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: Well said? 693 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: All right, next question having fun? Are you? 694 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: This is really fun? 695 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: Okay? Question number three? 696 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: What is okay? 697 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: What's your fight style? Scrappy? That's a scrappy fighter. Thatt 698 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: is grudgy. You are a grudgy fighter. 699 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm what makes you say that? 700 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: You take a little while to get over things, So, like, 701 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: I feel like you're a bit grudgy. 702 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: I think your stuf, your best defense is an offense. 703 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: Don't you say this? You're the same. You're the same, 704 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: You're the same. 705 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: You gaslight me. 706 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: The problem that we have you gaslight me. Stop using 707 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: words that you don't know what I mean. 708 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: You're a gas lighter. The biggest downside to being married 709 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: to a woman who has a podcast all about love 710 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 2: and relationships is that she's very difficult to argue with. 711 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: I am difficult to argue with, and it's because I'm 712 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: also quite stubborn. But the problem is that I think 713 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: we have is that you and I have the same 714 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: fight style, so we argue in the same way. Neither 715 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: of us want to be in the wrong, like, neither 716 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: of us want to have hurt the other person, so 717 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: we kind of jumped straight to defensiveness sometimes. So if 718 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: I say, hey, you did this and this hurt me, 719 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: you'll be like, well, you did this and that's why 720 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I did that. And we do this and I do 721 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: the same thing to you. 722 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: I apologize you very hard to get an apology at 723 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 2: Laura Burn. 724 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: You apologize more, but it's because you're wrong more. 725 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 2: Sorry. 726 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: This is true, but your fart style, Matt is anytime 727 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: we're having a disagreement about something and I say, hey, 728 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: you did this and this upset me. You say, oh, 729 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: I can never be right, and you throw your hands 730 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: in the air, and then the argument can't go anywhere. 731 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,719 Speaker 1: You'd be like, oh, once again, Laura Burn's right, and 732 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: so that's just a really it's quite belittling, but like 733 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're working through it. Therapy helps. 734 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on before we had a real blown argument. 735 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: We don't actually go to therapy. That was a joke. 736 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: We've not You and I have never been to couples therapy. 737 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: I think we do very well at communicating how we 738 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: feel about stuff. 739 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: So far, but we should go to a couple therapy. 740 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you suggested it recently and I got to upset. 741 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: Why did you get upset. 742 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Because you suggested it off the back? Do you want 743 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 1: to remember why you suggested it? Because we hadn't had 744 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: sex in a week. We had had sex in a week, 745 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: and you said, I feel like we're not as can 746 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: did and maybe we should go to therapy. Then we 747 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: had sex once and you were fine. There's a common ament, 748 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: a good look. 749 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: I'll be honest when I said that I knew what 750 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: I was doing. 751 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: Did you really that's so mean? Maybe we do need 752 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: therapy after all? 753 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: I was like I was, like, what, I just think 754 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: it's health. We should go to therapy. 755 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your love language? 756 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: Uh, remind me what they are again? 757 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: Physical touch, words of afformation, acts of service, gifts. 758 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: And quality time. 759 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: I am gifts. I'm a zero like I don't need gifts. 760 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't care about gifts, Like gifts don't really do 761 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: much for me. I am physical touch, and I am 762 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: words of affirmation and also acts of service. I love 763 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: it when you do shit for me and you're a 764 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: real acts of service person, Like you're very very good 765 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: at doing the things that make my life easier which 766 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: make me feel loved, like paying my parking fines and 767 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: and cleaning out my car. 768 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: Does that I've paid your toll bill in the. 769 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 3: Other d. 770 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: Like that. I love it when you do those sorts 771 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: of things to me that I like my life admin 772 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: stuff which I'm particularly bad at it really like that 773 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,479 Speaker 1: makes me feel super Lodkay. 774 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: What about when I sent the accountant some of the 775 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: information they needed for. 776 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Tax like stop is off? That is to me, I 777 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: appreciate how much of the organization that goes into our life, 778 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: and that makes me feel very loved because it lightens 779 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 1: my load massively lightens. 780 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: My load too. 781 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: What's yours? 782 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 2: I think the same, the same, same. I don't know 783 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: it gives? 784 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: What about the wallet I brought you? 785 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: Who is that? 786 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Who knows? 787 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: Because you bought me a wallet? I already have a wallet. 788 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: I forgot I bought you one for your last birthday. 789 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: So you bought me a wallet when my current wallet's 790 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: also like totally fine. So I was like, I feel bad. 791 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: I feel bad using the new wallet because the like 792 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: then the old wallet becomes redundant. So when the old 793 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: it becomes too old to use, I'll transition to the 794 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: new wallet. 795 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: So what this is? How much I'm not a gifts person. 796 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: I bought Matt a wallet last year and a shirt 797 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: that was too small and a shirt that was too small, 798 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: which I thought he would really like. And I felt 799 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: so bad this year that this year I bought him 800 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: a wallet because I forgot about the wallet I bought 801 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: him last year. I genuinely thought you were still using 802 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: the wallet your ex girlfriend gave you. That's where my 803 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: brain was at. 804 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: Oh, and you're like, oh, who'll see about that? 805 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: I can get rid of that girl. 806 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, I apologize. 807 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 1: Why are you apologizing? 808 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: So I should use it the new wallet. Next question, 809 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about divorce? Wow? 810 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Hit me, as in like do I want to do it? 811 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: Or just in general not us. I'm the product of 812 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: a lot of divorce, as in, like, my parents got 813 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: divorced a lot. 814 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 2: How many divorces in total? 815 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: So my mum was married three times, divorced twice. My 816 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: dad was married twice but then also engaged a third 817 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: time and separated, so they were pretty much married, but 818 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: they never actually got married. So three and two. 819 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: So what's your take on divorces? Then? 820 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: I used to be very skeptical, not of divorce but 821 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: of marriage. So prior to meeting you, I always kind 822 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: of said I didn't want to get married because I 823 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: didn't think it was worth the paper that it was 824 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: written on. And I always was like I was never 825 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: the girl that pictured my wedding or the white dress 826 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: or any of that sort of fairy tale because it 827 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of just felt like it didn't mean a lot, 828 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: I guess, And then meeting you, I don't know. We're 829 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: a very good team together, like we are, We very 830 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 1: much support each other, We work really well together. I 831 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: think we both saw marriage in a very similar way, 832 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: and I felt confident when we were together that if 833 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: shit got hard, you would work on it. And I think, 834 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: and this is probably maybe going a bit too deep, 835 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, but in my past relationships, I think 836 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: I always lived with a really big fear that they 837 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: were going to just leave, like that if I wasn't 838 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: pretty enough, or smart enough, or funny enough, if I 839 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: wasn't like always on my best game, that if we 840 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: had a fight, they would leave, you know, because anytime 841 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: we did have a fight, often they would break up 842 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: with me or it was like very tumultuous. Whereas like 843 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: with you, especially when we got pregnant. With when I 844 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: first got pregnant, your reaction to that pregnancy spoke volumes 845 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: about the person that you were. 846 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: How did I react? Again, I think I was just excited. 847 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, so I mean, and like I said. 848 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 2: Maybe this is bitause it was a surprise. 849 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: It was a surprise, which is like, thank God, you're excited. 850 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: But so I was in a six year relationship with 851 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: my ex and he basically was like, if you if 852 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: you ever got pregnant and you didn't have an abortion, 853 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: I'd leave you. That's what he would say. And he 854 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: would say it so frequently that it was an expectation 855 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 1: that if I chose to not have an abortion, he 856 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: was not going to stick around for the relationship. And 857 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was normal, Like, of course I was 858 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: hurt by it, but I was so naive to how 859 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: people treated each other in relationships that I was like, oh, 860 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: that's what I'm deserving of. And so when I told 861 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: you that I was pregnant, I was so worried that 862 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: you were going to be angry at me, that you 863 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: were going to be like this is fucked, Like how 864 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: we're going to fucking manage this? And you burst out 865 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: laughing and you were so happy, And I was like, 866 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 1: this guy is a fucking good egg? Is a really 867 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: good egg? 868 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: I was, Yeah, I was, Was that right, I'm Mariam? Yeah. 869 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 2: I think I was similar in that I remember. It's 870 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 2: weird how certain situations and conversations are those core memories 871 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 2: in your mind. My mum and dad split up when 872 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: I was about twelve, I think eleven or twelve, and 873 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 2: I hated. I hated the fact that their family was 874 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: being split up, even though I can look back and 875 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 2: I know it was absolutely it had to happen, that 876 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: it was so unhealthy for us all to be together 877 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: under the one roof. 878 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: But when you're a kid, you just you can't. You 879 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: can't understand, like you know what you know right, and 880 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: even if what you know is toxic, it's all the 881 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: safest version because it's what you're familiar with totally. 882 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 2: And I remember when my dad would cook the barbecue 883 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: outside on the veranda. I would always just like it 884 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: was like my job to get the tongs and get 885 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: the plate. It was always just I would be a 886 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: little helper. And I remember my dad was flipping the 887 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 2: steaks and he looked a him and he said, Mat, 888 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 2: if I can give you one advice in this world, 889 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: it's never get married. 890 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: Oh wow, thanks dad. 891 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: And I remember thinking to myself, I was like, you're wrong, 892 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: going to I'm going to prove you wrong. I remember 893 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 2: like I'm so stubborn that I was like. I was like, no, 894 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 2: I'm going to do it you and I was like, 895 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 2: I'm going to make it work. 896 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 897 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 898 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: I feel very similar. Like I feel like I, you know, 899 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: you either repeat the things that your parents did in 900 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: their relationships because that's your blue print, or you like 901 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: really actively choose to be different. And I think even 902 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: though we're not perfect all the time, and we have 903 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: our moments where we will accuse each other of gaslighting 904 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: each other. Like we are so on the same team, 905 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: like we're never opposing each other. And and I have, 906 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: like I have such strong faith and like reassurance and absolute, 907 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: like unwavering faith that even when things get really hard, 908 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: like we we're in it. We're in the ship together 909 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: and we will work hard to make it better. Yeah, 910 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: and that that's for me. Is like our marriage feels 911 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: very different to them to what my expectation of marriage was. 912 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,720 Speaker 2: Just because we're so fucking stubborn. 913 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: I love you. 914 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, listen back to this episode ago, Oh my god, 915 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: loss back on the podcast again. 916 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 4: Okay. 917 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: The next question is, Oh, this is one that's not 918 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: actually about us specifically, but it's around kids at weddings. 919 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: What is your opinion on having children at a wedding. 920 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: I get so annoyed when people will send out an 921 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 2: invite and say that there are no kids allowed. 922 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: I feel not that annoyed. I feel differently to you. 923 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: I think that there has to be a limit. I 924 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: understand why people who don't have children don't understand why 925 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: it's important to have kids there for people who do 926 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: have children, But I think I think it's okay to 927 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: not want to have small children at your wedding, Like 928 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: if you give enough time for preparation of babysitters, etc. 929 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: It's okay to make that, But it's not okay to 930 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: expect breastfeeding mothers to not bring their babies, Like if 931 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: you've got a baby that's under X amount of months, 932 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have a figure in my head, 933 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: but babies absolutely are and should be there. Are just 934 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: an extension of their mother. They should be welcome no 935 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: matter what. But I get why some people don't want kids. However, 936 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: we didn't have that rule at our wedding. We were like, 937 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: bring your kids, we don't care. Obviously, our kids were 938 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: a massive part of our wedding. We had the dog there, 939 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: the kids were there. 940 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: Especially. We know how hard it is when you're outside 941 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 2: of a big city to a on a babysitter and 942 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 2: then like b to then try and like you know, 943 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: if you're there, if you've got kids for the ceremony, 944 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 2: then you have to try and ditch the kids. You 945 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: have to get back to your accommodation from the babysitter. 946 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: Come back to the wedding. It's so hard logistically, but 947 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:12,399 Speaker 2: I don't. 948 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,840 Speaker 1: I think having all the kids there made our wedding better. 949 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: It was so fun and silly, and I think it 950 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: was amazing. I loved having them there. The only thing 951 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: was is that most parents didn't want their kids there 952 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: for the reception, so most parents just naturally organized babysitters 953 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: for bed times, et cetera, et cetera. Look, I don't 954 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: care about kids at wedding. I understand why some people 955 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: are against it, but I think that often people's perception 956 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: around it shift a little bit after they've had kids themselves. 957 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: Not everyone, but some yeah idiots. Nah, it's not that bad. 958 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 2: Okay, last question, Laura, that I'm going to ask you, 959 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: partly because I've been asked this question a lot by 960 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 2: many different people, both in person and online, but also 961 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: because I've never really had the chance to talk to 962 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: you about how you feel, oh God, honestly, about the 963 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: situation we're in right now at home where my mom 964 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 2: lives with us. 965 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: How do you feel well? 966 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: We also can't talk too loud. She's here, she's about 967 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: twenty meters away, locked in her We did, Okay, Can 968 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: I just say what can I just say? 969 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: I'd say it. 970 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 2: Her favorite quiz show is The Chase, The Chaser. The Chase. 971 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,359 Speaker 1: It's on right now, isn't it. 972 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 2: And there was like five minutes left and she was 973 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: about to see whether or not the contestant beat the 974 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 2: She didn't know. She literally sits on that couch at 975 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 2: the edge of the seat being like, oh my gosh, 976 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 2: like bitting her nails, being like will they win? And 977 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: it was a really good episode. She was like Mum 978 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, this is great. I don't 979 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: know what's going to happen. And then we started recordings. 980 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: We had to banish her to the room to close 981 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: the door and she couldn't finish watching her quiz. 982 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that, but I also don't I don't 983 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: like podcasting with like spectators. So once we hit record, 984 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: Matt was like, hey, Mum, can you turn the TV off? 985 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: And can you go into your bedroom? So Paul Ellie's 986 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: just sitting in her bedroom right now whilst we record this. 987 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 2: Sorry about that. 988 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: I would love to know your opinion. You go first. 989 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 2: I think overall, especially the last two days, Mum has 990 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 2: been absolutely. 991 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: Mom's been here for six months and you're like, the 992 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: last two days have been good. 993 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 2: We've got a good run last two days in particular, 994 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: just because it's been like really really heg dick. You know, 995 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: we were out last night. You know, Mom did the kids. 996 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 2: She like, you know, as I was like racing out 997 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: the door, she made me a little meal. She was 998 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 2: just she was doing so much to make my life easier, 999 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: our lives easier. 1000 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 1: I love it, Like, and people ask me this question 1001 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: all the time, like living with your mother in law, 1002 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: that must be interesting, And it definitely had a moment 1003 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: of adjustment, like, you know, it's just having another whole 1004 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: body in the house. But I get along with your 1005 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: mom famously, Like we get along so well. I think 1006 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard for her because we often work in 1007 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: the nighttime and she wants to have a chat and 1008 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: so like, you know, that's probably the only time when 1009 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: I feel guilty because I want to talk to her, 1010 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: but I have to get work done, et cetera. But 1011 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's great. Also, you need 1012 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: to be nicer to your mom. You're so mean to 1013 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: your mom about her cooking, and she's she does so 1014 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: much and you were like the cook the way I 1015 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: went the cares and be cooked. I'm like, Matt, just 1016 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: be happy that she got the carrots. 1017 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 2: I do you, child, I do need to be nicer 1018 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: to her. She's just so easy to wind up. I 1019 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 2: was like, I think those character are overcooked. She was like, 1020 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: they just they'd just been put on, and she was like, 1021 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: howdare you? And I'm like, Mom, I'm joking. 1022 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: I no, we love it. But also for me, I 1023 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: think maybe I have a bit of a different upbringing. 1024 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: Like I grew up living with my grandparents, and I 1025 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: spent so much time with my grandparents as a kid. 1026 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: So even when we moved out from living with myn 1027 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: nan and papa, they just moved up the road and 1028 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: my nan and my papa were like real parental figures 1029 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: for me because my mum was a single one with 1030 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: three kids, Like it was you know, it wasn't the 1031 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: easiest upbringing, and I got to have that with my grandparents, 1032 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: and my relationship with them was incredibly special, and I 1033 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 1: want that same thing for our kids, and so like 1034 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: it makes me really really happy that they get to 1035 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: have that relationship with their nana and they're building that 1036 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: sense of like really connected family. So even like the 1037 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: small inconveniences sometimes of having like an extra person in 1038 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 1: the house, which is not an inconvenience, but you know 1039 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: what I mean, it's that's like it doesn't matter. It 1040 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And I also think like if you swim 1041 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: with the current on stuff, like if you want things 1042 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 1: to be done in a particular way, like your way, 1043 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: then that's when you would get frustrated by things. But 1044 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm just happy that things get done, so I don't care, 1045 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,320 Speaker 1: like it really does it her. 1046 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: Way because you don't do anything. 1047 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: I don't do anything in his house. I just walk 1048 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: in and I'm like, dinner's there, Washing's been done. It's 1049 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: so nice. I'm like a passenger in my own home. 1050 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 2: It must be nice. 1051 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: It must be nice, Laura. 1052 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: Before we go, we do have a message from the 1053 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 2: one and only Ashton Wicks. He's having a delicious holiday 1054 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 2: over in Bali and he wanted to send us this. 1055 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 3: I hope you're enjoying your time together on this record, 1056 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 3: and Laura, I appreciate you stepping in. It's tough out 1057 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 3: here on the island hot and yes, it must be nice. 1058 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 3: Now I have a hackle fuck that that happens to 1059 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 3: come from my diligent and well organized wife. I'm sure 1060 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 3: that Jess, our producer, has shared a photo with you 1061 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 3: which is a tackle box full of snacks now. April 1062 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 3: found this on TikTok. She loves to find little things 1063 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 3: to make things easier. 1064 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: Now, this tackle. 1065 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 3: Box is loaded up with all sorts of things. We've 1066 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 3: got oreos, fruits, crackers, anything like that. What she does 1067 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 3: is she does that the night before we get on 1068 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 3: a long flight for the kids. The problem with that 1069 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 3: is it can cause a bit of a mess. And 1070 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 3: usually when kids also see the healthy options and the 1071 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: unhealthy options together, you can imagine what they would prefer. 1072 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: So I just want to know what you guys think. 1073 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 3: It seemed to work except for when they saw the 1074 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 3: aureo section and we're quite famished for an oreo. When 1075 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: one would say, and I've gone to the bathroom and 1076 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 3: come back and all the areos are gone, but the 1077 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 3: fruit still intact. 1078 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: Let me know what you think. 1079 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,319 Speaker 3: I miss you guys very much so, and I mean 1080 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 3: i'll see it. 1081 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 2: I'll see you. 1082 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 3: Soon, I guess caybye. 1083 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: That was a really long message. Doing his own podcast 1084 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: was get to the point. I do know this because 1085 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 1: I've witnessed it firsthand. April is very organized, yes, and 1086 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: it makes me feel like a very unorganized parent. She's 1087 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: the snack parent. She's got things bought and prepped and whatnot. 1088 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 1: And where the parents that are like, Oh, our kids 1089 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: are hungry, what are we going to feed? 1090 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 2: I've got a bag of twisties and apple and some lint. 1091 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: Take your pick, and I don't mean a lint ball. 1092 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: I just mean a piece of dust. That's all you got, 1093 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: some dried skin, pick your nose. We are not that 1094 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: organized as parents, even when we've been on this cruise. 1095 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: So we went on this crew went on a cruise. 1096 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 1: I went on a cruise when we were cruisers. I 1097 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: went to the shops and I bought all these snacks 1098 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: with the kids and I put them into a carry 1099 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: on bag. And then we got on the cruise and 1100 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: my sister was like, I don't understand why you didn't 1101 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,479 Speaker 1: take the snacks out of the boxes to save yourself room. 1102 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: I just packed full boxes of like a total box 1103 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: of music bars, a total box of tiny taties, like 1104 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: everything just got loaded in. Because I'm not an admin person, as. 1105 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: We have discovered, I thought I thought it was great 1106 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: you're snack packing. By the way, I thought it was 1107 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 2: really well done. If you have time, bloody great. If not, 1108 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 2: just buy the kids a pack of chippies on the 1109 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 2: plane and that'll sort them out. 1110 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't think you need to buy them chippies 1111 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: on the plane. I just think that. 1112 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 2: Don't pretend like you do not buy the kids' chips 1113 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 2: on every single flight that we have ever been. 1114 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: On, Prinkles. I don't want people just think you bout 1115 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: them chips. I don't want people to leave this podcast 1116 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,879 Speaker 1: thinking we only feed our kids smack on planes. We do, yeah, 1117 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: and Nana does a really good job of feeding them 1118 00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: healthy stuff at the other times of the day. 1119 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 4: No. 1120 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 1: I guess my thing is is that there are some 1121 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: mums who are super organized and it helps them feel 1122 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,360 Speaker 1: as though they've got, you know, control over the situation 1123 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: and they've got everything sorted for their kids. We are 1124 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: probably not as organized as parents. However, we are very 1125 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 1: adaptable and agile, and our kids eat lots of things, 1126 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: so like we can go to a cafe and get 1127 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: a sandwich or get a wrap or whatever, and our 1128 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 1: kids are happy to eat that stuff, you know. 1129 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 2: So if you see us on a plane. Please feel 1130 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: free to donate any snacks leftovers that you may have 1131 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 2: to feed our malnurished children. 1132 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 1: No, we sound like terrible parents. 1133 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 2: Shout out to April. It is a great idea. 1134 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's a good idea. Would we do it? 1135 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: Probably not? And I also think it's okay. It's okay 1136 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: if you're a parent, you're not that organized. As long 1137 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,240 Speaker 1: as you've got a couple snacks in the bags and water, 1138 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 1: you're all right. It's a fed. 1139 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 2: Very often we do not have water as well. 1140 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: For that kids, stop it. Why are you trying to 1141 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,640 Speaker 1: make out that way? Someone's got to call docs. 1142 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 2: That's all we have time for. If you've enjoyed this episode, and. 1143 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: If you even this episode, go on and have listen 1144 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: to laugh on Cart's great podcast. 1145 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 2: You don't need more listeners. 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It's 1166 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: not necessary because I come very rarely, so you can 1167 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: just skip it. 1168 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 2: We don't need that negativity in our lives right now, Laura, 1169 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 2: I will just say one mo thing. I think this 1170 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 2: episode is episode one hundred. I don't know if it is. 1171 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 2: It's not, maybe it's not, maybe it's one hundred and one. Anyway, 1172 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,760 Speaker 2: we are doing something special. We're currently working on it. 1173 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 2: It will be some type of prize. There will be 1174 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 2: some kind of giveaway mechanic. We don't know what it 1175 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 2: is just yet. 1176 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: Wow what I hook? 1177 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 2: I know stay tuned or will be revealed very shortly 1178 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 2: and until then, we'll see you later. Thank you and goodbye. 1179 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Guys, were done, Okay, bye bye. 1180 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna cry in oh oh? 1181 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 2: Was that necessary? Was that necessary? 1182 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: I love it's hot men who cry hot. No it's not, 1183 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. Then fuck me, let's go Bye. 1184 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 2: To Doting Dad's podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country 1185 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community. 1186 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present 1187 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander 1188 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 3: peoples to day. This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land