1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Jumb mission with Jones and Amanda. New South Wales has 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: been hit with a bunch of new restrictions, a stressful 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: time for families and for businesses. So to clarify some 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: of our pressing questions, Prime Minister Scott Morrison, Hello, are 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: there any questions? Well, I know you can appreciate people's 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: frustration that here we are about to go into holidays. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: The very states are making various decisions, but there are 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: some federal things here too. Only three point four percent 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: of Australians are fully vaccinated. We're seeing breaches of quarantine. 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: These are the two things that the federal government's responsible for. 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: How should we be feeling about all of this? 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Well, a couple of things. First of all, it's not 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: three point four percent. Side that, and on the first dose, 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: we've got two thirds of Australian's aged over seventy have 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: had their first dose. We've had fifty percent of Australians 16 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: over fifty have had their first dose and more than 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: one in four Australians aged over sixteen. So that's the 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: population that can be vaccinated. They've had their first and 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: at first dose actually provides you with protection. And the 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: first dose, you know, on the way the vaccines work. Well, 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: it's followed three weeks up or three months later, depending 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: on what vaccine you've had. So we've had about we'll 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 2: hit seven million doses which have been administered this week, 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: and so the vaccination program will continue to roll out 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: and we'll see increased doses from fires are available next month. 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: That'll ramp up to around six hundred thousand a week 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: and by September October will be well over a million, 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: in fact two million by the time you get to October. 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: So the vaccine program continues to strength. And of course 30 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: the medical advice we had on astrosenica significantly disrupted it. 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: I mean that's something outside the government's control when the 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: medical advice says you can only give it to those 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: over the age of sixty. And of course we have 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: the issues early on where those vaccines did not come 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: from overseas before our domestic production started. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: And you do appreciate that, you do appreciate those scott 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: as well, like I said, with the Astrosenicas for me, 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: I got the astrasenic shock because I know that we 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: need eighty percent coverage to have anything close to her immunity. 40 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: But you know, you do feel a little bit worried 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: when you hear about stories about the blood clotting thing, 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: but when you do research about that, you know that 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: further to that, it's it's less likely that it's going 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: to happen if you're healthy and well. 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: The risk is very low. But that's why we also 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: provided a Medicare item for people to go and have 47 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: a consultation with their doctors over the age of fifty 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: for those who already had their first vaccination with astrasenka, 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: so that could get more information on that. And Jen 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: who's listening by the way, she's in the car, she's 51 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: had her first astrosenica and so it's important that people 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: talk to their doctor about that. They've got questions. That's 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: why we provided the additional funding to enable the doctors 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: to do that. So that vaccination program, of course is important, 55 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: but we can't over assume on it. You know, in 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: the UK where I've just been, eighty one percent of 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: the population has had a first day to the vaccination. 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: They had fourteen thousand new cases yesterday and twenty seven 59 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: people died. So we've got to put this in some perspective. 60 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: In Australia, there is not one person who has COVID 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: who's in an ICU in this country right now, not 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: one Can I ask you about that because we're protecting 63 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: lives and livelihoods, because the economy is bigger today than 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: it was before the pandemic, and there are more people 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 2: employed today than before the pandemic. 66 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Do you think we are fetishizing the zero because at 67 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: the beginning it was flattening the curve we can I 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever achieve zero, and even when we're 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: all vaccinated, this will still pop up, but it won't 70 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: be as deadly. So why are we still fixating with 71 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: the zero? 72 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's the transition that has to happen now. The 73 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: vaccination race needs to continue to increase, and it was 74 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: always the plan to have that done fully by the 75 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: second half of the year, to have the opportunity for 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: everyone who wants a vaccination to receive it. But you're 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: still going to have a proportion of the population that won't, 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: and people in those situations are vulnerable. There's also the 79 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: new variants and strains, But you're right in terms of 80 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: the vaccination protects people from serious illness and fatality. That's 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: what it's for. At the start of the pandemic. What 82 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: we were most concerned about was our ICUs full and 83 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: collapsing and large numbers of fatalities. Now in Australia, if 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: we had the same rate of fatalities in countries like ours, 85 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: thirty thousand more people would have died. We saved thirty 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: thousand lives in Australia in the past year, and I 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: think that's an amazing achievement by Australians. And we also 88 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: ensure that our economy bounced back to the point where 89 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: there's unemployment has fallen to five point one percent and 90 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: the economy is bigger than now than it was before 91 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: the pandemic. I was just sitting around the table with 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: some of the biggest advanced economies in the world. None 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: of them can say that other than South Korea. So 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: Australia continues to do well. Yet we've got our challenges 95 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 2: and continue to roll out of vaccine in a country 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: where there's virtually no COVID and when outbreaks occur, well, 97 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: we just have to act quickly on them, as Gladys 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: is doing in New South Wales, and I think it's 99 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: great that she's not locking the you down but putting 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: in place common sense precautions which Sydney Siders I know 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: doing one of them. We'll just work too, and work 102 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: together and get through this like Australians have and since 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: Sydney Siders had before. 104 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Can I ask you about this week we saw the 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: return of Barnaby Joyce. Is he the right man for 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: the times? I know there's still a sexual harassment case 107 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: still unresolved around him. I don't know if he's necessarily 108 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: aligning with your new environmental targets. How do you feel 109 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: about Barnaby's return? 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: Well, the Barnaby brings a unique perspective from regional Australia 111 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: and you know, our government has got a keen interest 112 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: in what's happening in regional Australia and we're making great 113 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: progress on things like our missions reduction and we're twenty 114 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: percent down on two thousand and five levels. You know, 115 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom can't sorry, sorry, the United States can't 116 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: say that, Canada can't say that. New Zealand can't say 117 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: that Australia is actually getting it done. We've got the 118 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: highest rate of rooftop solar in the world, in the world, 119 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: so we're making big progress and our performance is there 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,799 Speaker 2: for people to see and we've got to keep making 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: that performance count. But we'll do that through technology. That's 122 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: what we're saying. I'm not going to tax our way 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: to net zero. I'm not going to shut down towns 124 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: and regions and industries to get there. We'll have a 125 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: plan to take us forward which doesn't involve that but 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: uses technology. And it was disappointing this week that we 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: had a bill in the Parliament that would have seen 128 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: more than a billion dollars spent on carbon capture and 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: storage and hydrogen technology and a Labor Party voter against us. 130 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: So we're just going to have to do that one again. 131 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: There it is, that's politics. And I like the fact 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 3: that Jenny she's had the astrosenics. You had the phisis. 133 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: So there's going to be some tension in the Morrison household. 134 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: Is there going to be? 135 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: All right? Well, that was the one that was available 136 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: in that first week, so I would have been happy 137 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: to have as ed at the time. 138 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: And you're okay, everything's okay with the phiz that you 139 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: feel good, Yeah. 140 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're fine. But the thing about the vaccine is 141 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: that you can still the evidence is showing that you 142 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: can still get the virus and pass it on. But 143 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: the thing is you don't get serious fatality. So Amanda's 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: point is the key one. And when I was talking 145 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: to Boris Johnson about this, what they're focusing on in 146 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: the UK is their rates of hospitalization. So the reason 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: he extended the restrictions was because not because there was 148 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: a large number of cases, but because their rate of 149 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: hospitalization was increasing, and that's because of the new variant. 150 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: So you know, we can't kid ourselves in Australia just 151 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: because we've done so well that somehow it's all over 152 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: and we can all just go back to how it 153 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: was and there aren't risks and occasionally there won't be 154 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: issues we have to deal with. That's the reality of 155 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: a global pandemic. It's just the reality, and we're confronting 156 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: it better than most. But times like this, you know, 157 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: holidays will get deferred. Our family holiday probably might have 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: to get deferred. We'll have to wait and see how 159 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: things are panning out there. But families are finding themselves 160 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: in that situation and I know that'll be incredibly frustrating 161 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: and disappointing, but there's also you know, we've got to 162 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: think about how we're living in Australia and how that 163 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: compares to so many other parts of the world. 164 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: There you go, well we are in a pandemic. Thank you, minister. 165 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: Thank you for clearing up some stuff there. That's always 166 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 3: great to have you on the show. Say hi to 167 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Jenny for us as well. 168 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: Back in the in thee. 169 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: Yes they're winning ugly again. 170 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: That's true anyway, good luck, cheers. 171 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: That's Prime Minister Jonesy and Amanda's