1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: One thing that I think is a fantastic move. We 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: know that families are being turned away at the moment 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: with some swim schools around Australia due to a nationwide 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: swim teacher shortage, so swimming and water Safety teaching will 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: teacher training or swim they've decided to lower the age 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: of their swim teacher license down to sixteen years old. 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: And joining me on the line to tell us a 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: little bit more about this is all Swim CEO Brad Low. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: Brad, Hi Katie, how are you here on. 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us this morning. Brad, talk 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: me through this swim teacher shortage that we've got around 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: the nation at the moment. Is it being experienced here 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: in the territory as well? 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's everywhere. And again it's one of those one 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: of those unintended consequences of COVID where we just had 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: a lot of licensed teachers leave the industry. They and 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: they haven't come back. So for us now we're facing 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: a nationwide skill shortage which is ultimately resulting in children 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: not being able to access swimming lessons and so what does. 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: That mean for a lot of families? Because you know, 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: so many of us want to make sure that our 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: children do learn to swim, and really the only way 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to do that is to go to a swimming school 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: where they've got accredited teachers. 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, So they've estimated during COVID nationally ten million 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: swimming lessons were canceled. So that's ten million opportunities for 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: children to learn to swim weren't available. And on average 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: now sent schools have waiting lists of up to three 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: hundred children who yeh are waiting to access swimming lessons. 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: And you're teaching such an important skill, so it's important 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: that the person who're teaching those lessons is suitably trained 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: and suitably licensed. 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: And do you know if there's any particular situations in 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory whether we sort of you know, whether 36 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: we have many of our lessons canceled. I know that 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: for us we maybe didn't get hit with COVID quite 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: as hard as some of the other stuff. 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Unfortunately, every year we face a skill shortage, so 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: there's always particularly in the lead in for summer assume 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: schools are always recruiting for new staff. Our workforce is 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: highly casualized and it is a great part time job 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: for people who are finishing high school, just about to 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 2: go into university or further studies and do this as 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: a fantastic part time job. So something that we see 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 2: year on year. Unfortunately, COVID just really exacerbated the issue. 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: And so taught me through the factors. Then I guess 48 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: that we're considered when it came to lowering that age. 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it used to be eighteen and you've decided, 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: you know what, let's go to sixteen. 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it used to be seventeen. So for us, it 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: was about looking at really ensuring that the quality of 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: the training and the quality of the outcomes that's required 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: wasn't compromised. So we certainly haven't done down the course 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: or the license in any way. They still need to 56 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: meet the same criteria they've always met. But again we 57 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: really looked at, you know, sixteen year olds being able 58 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: to have that extra year in the workforce while they 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: are finishing school and university, and then looking at a 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: lot of other industries as well, you know, across sporting 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: coaching roles, sixteen year olds can be coaches as well. 62 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: You can get your learners permit at sixteen. So we 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: really think that sixteen year olds certainly have the experience 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: to be able to teach children, and do you reckon that. 65 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: It will have a big impact on that shortage that 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: we're experiencing. 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So we've actually got three hundred people in our 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: systems at the moment that have done all of the 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: coursework and all of the training, and we're just waiting 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: to turn seventeen to be licensed. So that's three hundred 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: people immediately going out into the industry. But also because 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: being a teachers in the water safety is such a 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: fantastic job, particularly while you are at school university, actually 74 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: hoping that it's going to be more palatable for people 75 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: who are sixteen to get it, to get that great job. 76 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I reckon, it's a fantastic idea. I taught swimming when 77 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: I was a high school student and also then when 78 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: I was at university, and you're so right, it's a 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: fantastic job to have while you're juggling juggling school or 80 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: juggling you know, your degree. So it will hopefully see 81 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: a real boost of the number of teachers and ultimately 82 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: see plenty more kids able to get into the water 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: and learn to swim. 84 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's what it's all about we want to 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: make sure that the children are learning of skill, but 86 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: that one day may save their life. 87 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. And are there any other measures in 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: the works to sort of prevent families from being turned 89 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: away from swimming lessons? 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want for us author about retention to how 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: we can keep people in the industry for longer. So 92 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: there's lots of really exciting initiatives that who are working on. 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: It'll be released over the next few months to be 94 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: able to keep people in the industry's life each is 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: for even longer as well. 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will CEO of our swim brad Low. We 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning. Thanks so much for having 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: a chat with me. 99 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me have a great day you too,