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Speaker 2: We all fall in love with Harry Gar's side, obviously

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Speaker 2: Harry was post Olympics. He's written a book and I

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Speaker 1: You to that.

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Speaker 2: The book is called The Good Fight.

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Speaker 1: And Hello, Harry, how you've having.

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Speaker 3: Me in guys when we saw you at the end

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Speaker 3: of the games there with what you said, how are

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Speaker 4: Because you said how am I going to go? A

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Speaker 3: Are you feeling better about what happened over there in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a cocktail. There's some days where

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Speaker 5: you're feeling off. I think that's the human experience, right.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes we have rough days, rough weeks, and since I

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Speaker 5: thought there, since I've been home more so, I definitely

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Speaker 5: have had some rough days. But to be honest, like

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Speaker 5: I think five years ago, the decisions I made when

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Speaker 2: Well, you gave us such an insight into what it's

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Speaker 2: Which is a form of dance.

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Speaker 1: I guess it is one hundreds of pure form of dance.

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Speaker 5: I love it, and I think I started ballet, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that I've seen the game what's the

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Speaker 5: It's so interesting because I think when I first started boxing,

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Speaker 4: be a thing. Harry, it's so great to talk to you,

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Speaker 4: I never got that, but I've never had anyone in

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Speaker 5: So it's interesting thing I think like growing up, I

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Speaker 5: Getting success in sport, Commoce Games, last Olympics, getting this

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Speaker 5: that is where you collect the evidence you are a

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Speaker 2: Of maybe reshaping the markers of success.

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Speaker 4: This is what it's all about the word.

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Speaker 5: According to Harry, it's a weird thing though we don't

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Speaker 5: And that's just the reality of it, right, Like it's

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Speaker 5: it's an interesting thing, Like we prop it up in

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Speaker 5: in like cancer wards that we're working like these long ships,

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Speaker 4: Man, I wish I had the answers for that.

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Speaker 3: Are wise beyond your years, my man and Harry Garside

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Speaker 3: You just heard a sample of what you get in

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Speaker 3: the book. It's not some winky thing. It's a it's

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Speaker 3: a it's a good book. It's full of it.

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Speaker 4: You've had a free sample, Harry, thank you for coming in.

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Speaker 1: Awesome tanks taps guys,