1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sophie Gwidland's complicated four month marriage. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Gracie Piscopo questions. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: The media's reporting on her partner's murder trial and the 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable Vanessa Hudgens meet and greet photo that's gone viral. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: Sophie Torbert and kay, I'm so jealous. You have lived 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: out a childhood dream of ours. 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: I have now. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I never really dreamed about my wedding, but one thing 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: I always wanted was for my wedding to feature in 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: the Sunday Mail because Mum and us would always have 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: a look at the weddings. We'd pick out which dresses 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: we liked and read the stories. So a couple of 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: months before the wedding, Mum was on my back about it. 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: She's like, you've got to email the Sunday Mail and 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: tell them about your wedding. So I got an email 18 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago asking for some more details 19 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: and some photos. As journalists do, they have to pick 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: out the most news, where the element of this story 21 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: and it was the fact that we were triplets. The 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: advertiser love a triplet story. 23 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: They really do. 24 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: And I could just see Reese's face because he would 25 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: have thought, Oh, this story is going to be about 26 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: me and Kate and how we met. But it was 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: literally about the fact that we were triplets in a 28 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: wedding together. I know, because the journalist was like, actually, 29 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: do you have a photo of you and your sisters together? 30 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: And do you the childhood photo? It was very I 31 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: was like, oh, not this again. The fact they did 32 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: you dirty with the headline though, because it almost sounded 33 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: like there was some incestuous relationship going on. Look. I 34 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: really liked the online version. There was more detail about 35 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: it and it was a bit more fun, whereas the 36 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: edition in the paper. My heart dropped because I woke 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: up and my dad had scanned it and had it 38 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: on his Facebook and it said it takes three baby you, 39 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: me and my identical sisters. And to me, I know 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: it's a play on that song, but I'm like, is 41 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: this some sort of threesome reference? Like I can't stand 42 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: it for anyone that is a multiple berth. I just 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: don't understand the ancestral references all the time. 44 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: It makes it feel sick. 45 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: It's a Jerry Springer trailer, isn't it? And to me 46 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: and your identical sisters. And to be fair to the journal, 47 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have written the headline. No, the editor would have. 48 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: And also it didn't really make sense because it's it 49 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: takes three baby, you, me and my identical sisters. 50 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: That's four people. Yeah, it does not add up. 51 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: It has been a pretty busy week all around though, 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: with work and also the launch of Outspoken Plus, which 53 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: has been very exciting. Yes, that has been going on 54 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: in the background for quite a few months now, so 55 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: it was very exciting to finally launch with our Sarah's 56 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Day Deep Dive, and we're so excited to bring you 57 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: extra content each week. 58 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: If you have. 59 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Already listened to the first episode, I would love to 60 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: hear what you think. Please share either on Instagram or 61 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: in our review section. And while we have started with 62 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: the Deep Dive on Sarah's Day as our first series, 63 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: you can also expect a wide variety of bonus content 64 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: each week, so we'll also be dissecting news and current 65 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: affairs stories as well as social media trends, and then 66 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: all of the fun stuff, including behind the scenes, bloopers, 67 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: chit chats, live updates, and of course extra influencer and 68 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: pop culture segments, all behind a pay law because. 69 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: It's so juicy. 70 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: We can't probably put on this podcast like we can 71 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: all get a bit more real with everyone. I know 72 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: that we have been real, but I mean with that paywall, 73 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: you feel a bit more comfortable to give out your opinion, 74 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: but also to chat about a few more life updates 75 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: and stuff, stuff that we can't really say, maybe in 76 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: front of friends and family for fear of them hearing 77 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: us time. 78 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 2: I mean our mum. 79 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't think she has invested in a subscription yet, 80 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: so who knows. You might be seeing a different side 81 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: of us on the now. We just see all our 82 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: families subscribing. I said to me, Door, I have to subscribe. 83 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's okay, of course you do. 84 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I just want to add also that to celebrate the 85 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: launch of Outspoken Plus, we currently have a seven day 86 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: free trial, so if you want to test it out, 87 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: I suggest you do so before that runs out. It 88 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: cracked me up because today Amy and I had a 89 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: video shoot with pick a Local, which is one of 90 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: our clients, and they deal with all of the Fruit 91 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: and vegetaors in Adelaide, and we were at this apprill 92 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: grower's orchard and Amy was ringing me on the phone. 93 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: She's like, have you heard from Apple yet? And I 94 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: was like, wait, what do you mean about. 95 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Our podcast or do you mean the apple growers. It 96 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: was just like these two worlds colliding. I do want 97 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: to mention on the topic of Apple that I am 98 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: sincerely sorry to all the Android users who are disappointed 99 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: that they can't get outspoken. Plus, we are currently investigating Patreon. Unfortunately, 100 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: our podcast platform just doesn't integrate well with Spotify, so 101 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: we are onto it. Hopefully we can have an update soon. 102 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: First blog back in a hot minute, and I'd like 103 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: to kickstarted by showing you all around my home for 104 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: the first time, as well as take you on behind 105 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: the scenes of our road trip up to Noosa for 106 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: the bod Retreat. 107 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Just before we get into the next segment, we want 108 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: to issue a trigger warning as we do discuss the 109 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: topic of stillbirth. Last week, Sophie Guidlin's ex husband broke 110 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: his silence on their shock split. Doctor Andrew Figari confirmed 111 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: the pair had broken up just four months after their wedding. 112 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 1: Two days later, Sophie retaliated, claiming she was the one 113 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: who left him. Now, before we get into the breakup, 114 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: can you run us through Sophie and Andrew's relationship, Timeline Kate, Yes, 115 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: I can so. Sophie and Andrew were actually friends for 116 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: over ten years before they started dating, and in an 117 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: interview with nine Honey, Sophie explained that initially she'd never 118 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: thought of him in a romantic way, and that she'd 119 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: actually tried to set him up with friends of hers. 120 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: It was only when her family and friends pointed out 121 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: that they clearly had feelings for each other that it 122 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: turned into a romance. Sophie said, everybody for ages had 123 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: been like Sophie, he's in love with you, and you're 124 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: in love with him. It was his very sudden but 125 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: exciting realization. Now it was a well winned romance, with 126 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: the couple getting engaged on June twenty twenty two in 127 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: Santorini just five months later. The pair married on November eleven, 128 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, in the Byron Bay, Hintland, and a 129 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: month later they announced they were expecting their first child. 130 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: Sophie controversially used her Instagram subscription channel to share photos 131 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: of her wedding as well as the baby announcement. She 132 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: wrote to her paid subscribers, Hello, subscribers, can you see 133 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: a double line on here? Is this a honeymoon baby? 134 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: So Sophie tried to encourage more people to subscribe by 135 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: sharing an Insta story with the caption, my subscribers feeling 136 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: like investigators today? Is it or isn't it? And then 137 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: she linked a subscribe link. So what you're telling me, Kate, 138 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: is to get more subscribers to outspoken. Plus, you need 139 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: to start sharing some baby news. You start teasing that perhaps, Look, 140 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that will be happening. It's really wild 141 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: to see this timeline put in black and white like this, 142 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: because it all just happened so quickly. Yes, they knew 143 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: each other for a long time, but it's weird to 144 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: be in this friendship and only just realize that, oh wait, 145 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: we love each other. Let's get married. Like it all 146 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: seemed like it just happened way too quickly. It does 147 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: seem like a reoccurring thing for Sophie because often it's 148 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: all over the headlines that she's got a new boyfriend, 149 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: and then a few weeks later things seem to be over. 150 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: It's particularly hard when there's children involved, especially in this 151 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: situation from both camps. Yeah, because at the time of 152 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: meeting Andrew, Sophie had four kids of her own and 153 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: he had two. It was almost like a Brady Bud 154 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: situation going on now. Sophie revealed in January that she 155 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: was unfortunately diagnosed with HG during her pregnancy, which is 156 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: the same severe form of more sickness that Martha Califatita's 157 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: also suffered from, and she shared a photo of herself 158 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: in hospital with a drip with the caption, this pregnancy 159 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: has nearly officially got the better of me. I am 160 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: so exhausted, I'm so sick. An example, Today is a 161 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: beautiful thirty degree day. Andrew's out on a boat with friends. 162 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: My girlfriends are out for lunch, riders, going to the movies, 163 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: all as I lay in the hospital on a drip. 164 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: I just want my life back, or at least the basics, 165 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: the simple things which are so normal in everyday life 166 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: I struggle to do at the moment. Showers even make 167 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: me see sick. Days later, in another post, Sophie shared 168 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: a photo of herself at the beach with her daughter 169 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: and then another photo of her clinging onto a vomit bag. 170 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: She explained that before returning to the hospital in the morning, 171 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: that she had pulled herself out of a dark hole 172 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: to see the ocean and her kids. 173 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: She sounds horrendous. 174 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh, I have only just discovered through Martha Califatitas's pregnancy 175 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: that HG is a thing. And I also have seen 176 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Kia Rumble experiencing HG on her social media platform. It 177 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: just seems to be popping up every It looks horrendous. Yeah, 178 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: some of Dale's friends partners have had it and they 179 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: just can't get out of bed for like nine months. 180 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. There's no quality of life during pregnancy when 181 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:10,559 Speaker 1: you've got HG. 182 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 2: Is there now? 183 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: Back in hospital, Sophie complained about how lonely she felt 184 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: without Andrew by her side, and it turned out that 185 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: Andrew was actually on a two week holiday with his 186 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: daughters in Europe. Not good timing there, No, and Sophie 187 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: referenced the holiday in a public comment to Martha Califatitis. 188 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Of all people, she wrote, currently admitted in hospital for 189 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the same numerous times. It's hell right. I don't wish 190 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: this on anyone. I'm glad it appears your man is 191 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: looking after you. 192 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: Being alone sucks. Martha here if you need a listening ear. 193 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: And also none of my other pregnancies have been like this, 194 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: so there is hope. Martha replied, saying, oh, sorry to hear, 195 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: soph hope you have someone doting on you too. Thanks 196 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: for sharing now. The awkward comments regarding Andrew's whereabouts continued, 197 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: with Sophie also discussing it with her followers. In the 198 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: comments on her own Instagram so, Sophie wrote, he has 199 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: explicitly asked me not to mention him on social media, 200 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: to which I am doing. 201 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: I am in hospital. 202 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: A follower responded that it was fair enough and she 203 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: feels bad if Andrew's getting hate and people shouldn't jump 204 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: to conclusions, to which Sophie wrote back, I guess everyone 205 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: can make their own assumptions. I asked him to stay 206 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: based on my mental and physical state, but at the 207 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: end of the day, he can do as he sees fit. 208 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: I feel for Sophie in that situation, because of course 209 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: people are going to be wondering where is your new 210 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: husband and why is he posting in Europe on his Instagram? 211 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: And I think that she had to address the elephant 212 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: in the room. It's a hard one, isn't it, because 213 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: you feel for Sophie being in that position, But then 214 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: you also feel for Andrew because he doesn't have as 215 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: big of a platform as Sophie. It also appears he 216 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: had quite a legitimate reason for being in Europe. 217 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: So what was the reason? 218 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Well, he had to jump on his Instagram and actually 219 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: put out a statement because he was copying so much 220 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: hate from Sophie's followers. Explained that he'd actually made a 221 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: promise to both of his daughters since they were little, 222 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: that he would take them anywhere in the world for 223 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: a father daughter holiday when they graduated year twelve, so 224 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: he wrote, they have been looking forward to this trip 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: their whole lives. 226 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: Paris. 227 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Wanted to visit Paris and Europe to celebrate her graduation 228 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: and her eighteenth before moving into State to go to 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: university the week. Re return as their sole caregiver for 230 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: the last six years. It's incredibly important that they know 231 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: they can rely on me. No one could have anticipated 232 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: how difficult the pregnancy would become and the timing of it. 233 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: I had a choice to cancel a two week trip 234 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: and betray my daughters in the process or proceed. Sometimes 235 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: in life we can't do it all and we need 236 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: support from others. Only I could uphold or break my 237 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: promise to my girls. Andrew went on to say that 238 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: fortunately there were medical professionals, family and friends who can 239 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: support Sophie whilst he's away for two weeks. He finished with, 240 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I accept that some people won't understand my choice. However, 241 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: I feel I have made the right decision under all 242 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: of the extenuals and difficult circumstances. I love my daughters 243 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: and I love Sophie and our new daughter to be. 244 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: Whilst I can't be everything to everyone all the time, 245 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: I'll always be the best I can be to those 246 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: that matter to me. When he released this statement, this 247 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: is when alarm bells were ringing, because normally a couple 248 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: would make a statement like this together that they are 249 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: a united front. I mean, he does reference in this 250 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: statement that he loves Sophie, But for me, I just thought, well, 251 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: there must be something going on. Have the pair broken up? 252 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: Is this why he's gone on this holiday with his daughters. 253 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I can understand him not wanting to disappoint his daughters. 254 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: He also seems to be making a lot of digs, 255 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: like the reference it's only two weeks and I couldn't 256 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: let my daughters down, like it seems very honorable. But 257 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: also your new wife, who was pregnant with your child 258 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: is suffering in hospital. Shit move if you're the wife, 259 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: I actually feel bad for both of them, Like, I 260 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: really don't know what would have been the right thing 261 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: to do in this situation. It's a really tricky situation 262 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: when there's two sets of kids involved from each family, 263 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: because there's so many personalities that come into play, so 264 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: many feelings, particularly around teenage years and when you've grown 265 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: up with your dad being your sole career, and then 266 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: I assume a new woman comes into the picture and 267 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: form of Sophie having this new wife, there'd be a 268 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: lot of jealousy and tension there. 269 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: And it is a really tricky situation for. 270 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 1: Andrew to be in because I think he would have 271 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: felt like he was choosing between his daughters or Sophie. Well. 272 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: In a devastating turn of events, in late January, while 273 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Andrew was in Europe, Sophie announced their child was stillborn. 274 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: She named her Pixie, and she shed an image of 275 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: her and Pixie to Instagram, where she's visibly devastated. Now 276 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: this photo has since been deleted. Just thinking about that 277 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: photo it gives me shivers down my spine. The emotion 278 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: was so raw in it it was really difficult to 279 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: look at well. Under the post, Sophie wrote, I cannot 280 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: begin to articulate my pain, grief, and despair through my 281 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: entire soul. 282 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: I'm trying to trust in. 283 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: God's timing, and I've always believed that the universe has 284 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: my back, and no matter how confusing this all feels, 285 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sense of this grief with my faith. 286 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: I feel so guilty for my thoughts prior, and I 287 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: would do anything to have that pain over this harrowing experience. 288 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't even have words on how to write or 289 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: how to comprehend this. Maybe some souls were always meant 290 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: to be angels. I really felt for Sophie reading this, 291 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: because it would be horrible to look back at your 292 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: social media footprint. And she had previously been complaining about 293 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: suffering from HG, which would be a complete normal response 294 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: to feeling like that, and then you know she's saying 295 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: she feels guilty for putting that out into the universe 296 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: and then this horrific thing happens now. Breakup rumors began 297 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: circulating following this devastating news, and Sophie added to the 298 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: speculation by deleting all of the photos of Andrew from 299 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: her Instagram, including their engagement, wedding, and baby announcement. She 300 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: also which is the kicker unfollowed him on Instagram Yeah, 301 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: and then in late February, she uploaded a cryptic Instagram 302 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: post hinting at heartbreak. So she referred to going through 303 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: a rough patch and emphasized the importance of human connections 304 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: despite her desire to recharge her batteries alone. Sophie also 305 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: hinted to a need for closure after a difficult time. 306 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: Sophie wrote, forgiveness's keep something's unforgivable and closure is the choice. 307 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: She also emphasized the importance of being consistent when providing 308 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: support for another person well. On Wednesday last week, Andrew 309 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: confirmed that his relationship with Sophie was over. He said 310 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: he was not willing to discuss the reasons for their splits, saying, 311 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: in order to remove the constant speculation, I'll answer it 312 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: this once by saying we are no longer together. I 313 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: have my reasons why, and I'm not prepared to discuss 314 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: this matter any further. So the dentist asked followers to 315 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: refrain from commenting on the relationship as nothing positive can 316 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: come from discussing it further. And I can see why 317 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: he's come out and made this statement because he has 318 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: been hounded for the last couple of months. 319 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: Well, people haven't listened. 320 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about it on this podcast after 321 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: a lot of requests from listeners. Also, the media have 322 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: picked up on this story big time. 323 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: This even appeared in. 324 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: Little Old Adelaide's advertiser. Sophie is a former Adelaide Girl, 325 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised, but on Friday, Sophie Gwidlin claimed 326 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: it was her who left her husband and not the 327 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: other way around. She shared insight into the breakup on 328 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: her thirty fourth birthday after posting a photo dump on Instagram. Now. 329 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: The post included a photo of her and her eldest 330 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: son Kai hugging, along with photos of her and her 331 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: kids with a birthday cake. 332 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: So this is where she. 333 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: Took an absolute swipe at her ex husband. So in 334 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: the post, she shared a photo of a birthday cake 335 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: with a thirty three on her because she is claiming 336 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: that she is wiping that year from record. I mean, 337 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: that's the year that she married Andrew, the year that 338 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: she fell pregnant with him, the year that they really 339 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: kicked off their relationship. 340 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, it was quite a horrible year 341 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: as well. 342 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: I think that's actually a great idea. Just if you've 343 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: had a bad relationship for a bad year work wise, 344 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't count. 345 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: Does that mean I'm only twenty five what you've had 346 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: nine bad years? 347 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 348 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: I'm just doing well. 349 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: She wrote in the cap in the silver lining, gratitude 350 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: times a million. To have you back in my arms. 351 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I will do everything in my power to never let 352 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: anyone or anything ever come between our bond. Thirty three 353 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: dot dot dot. Nothing on earth could have prepared me 354 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: for the year that was. Here's to redoing thirty three now, 355 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: just to reiterate it. She was photographed with her son Kai, 356 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: and it was pretty interesting because in the comment section 357 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: she referred that Kai had actually spent several months living 358 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: with her parents in Adelaide while they were going through 359 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: a difficult time, and he, of course didn't come to 360 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: the wedding with her and Andrew so it speaks volumes 361 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: that there was a big issue between Andrew and Kit, 362 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: which is weird because, as we mentioned earlier, Andrew and 363 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Sophie were friends. It seemed like family friends for ten years. 364 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: Surely the kids would have all mixed together. 365 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but as different. 366 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: Once that person starts dating your mum like that, it's 367 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: going to be a big difference. In terms of commenting 368 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: on her relationship status, Sophie replied on her birthday post 369 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: to a comment which said where's your hubby, and she 370 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: wrote I left him. She also responded to another commenter 371 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: saying I'm not with him, hence the deletion of any photos. Yeah, 372 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: she wants to make it pretty clear, doesn't she. Now. 373 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people have been asking why we haven't 374 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: covered this story yet, and we are very mindful that 375 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Sophie and Andrew have gone through a real tragedy together 376 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: with the loss of their daughter Pixie, So we have 377 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: tried to give them some space because this has been 378 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: an ongoing story for a number of months now. Yeah, 379 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: and now that they are publicly commenting on their breakup, 380 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: we thought it was a little bit more appropriate timing 381 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: to discuss it, particularly because it is such a big 382 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: story in the influencer space. Hi, guys, welcome to my channel. 383 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm going through my morning routine today. Graziepiscopo has accused 384 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: the media of spreading fake news about her boyfriend Andre Ribello, 385 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: who has been charged with murdering his mother. 386 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: Hey, what has been going on? 387 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: Well, after a short hiatus, Gracie has been back on 388 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: her social channels, sharing day in the lifelog, staying at 389 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: a hotel, her hair routine, get Ready with Me videos, 390 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: and of course fashion content. So it seems like it's 391 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: business as usual, and Gracie rarely responds to her comments. 392 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: In fact, she is often called out for not answering 393 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: questions in her comments, so it's very strange that she 394 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: has taken the bait in this instance. So someone commented 395 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: on Gracie's TikTok video saying, will you do a story 396 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: time about what your partner did when you're ready? Another 397 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: person responded to that comment saying just look at the news, 398 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: to which Gracie said, I wouldn't look to the news 399 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 1: for factual information. Now I take from that that she 400 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: is supporting her partner, but she is yet to appear 401 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: in court. Well, she's got to be careful what she says, 402 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: or she might jeopardize the whole case, which is why 403 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: it's very surprising she would even bother commenting on TikTok 404 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: about it. Well, you said that it's quite unusual for 405 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: her to respond to people's posts. I wonder if she's 406 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: just been pushed to her limit at the moment. I 407 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: know you said it's back to work as usual for 408 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: her on Instagram, but we don't know what is going 409 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. It would be a very taxing time, 410 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: very stressful with everything going on. It's going on well, 411 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: particularly because she is now a single mum looking after 412 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: the couple's child, Romeo, who's only four. Yeah now. Gracie 413 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: first broke her silence in December, following Andre's charges. She 414 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: wrote on Instagram, I'd like to thank everyone for their 415 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: patience and understanding for my absence for the past two weeks. 416 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: I have been in a complete state of shock and 417 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: utter disbelief, and I am deeply affected by the events 418 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: that have unfolded. I am grateful for everyone who has 419 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: reached out and sent love and support. This has been 420 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: an extremely difficult time and my focus right now is 421 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: the well being of my son. So on Friday there 422 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: was a major development in the case against Andre Rebello. 423 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: It is likely his charges will be combined, which would 424 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: mean he would face one jury on all charges if 425 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: the matter goes to trial. In addition to being charged 426 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: with his mother's murder, Andre was initially charged with five 427 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: counts of forging a document with intent to defraud. He 428 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: has been accused of forging medical records relating to his mother, 429 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: including her death certificate and final will. Initially, Colleen rebet 430 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: Fellow's death was not deemed suspicious as she showed no 431 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: obvious signs of injury. However, an investigation into her son's 432 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: alleged fraudulent dealings led to murder charges being laid. More 433 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: than two years later. Andre has pled not guilty to 434 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: the charges and is set to appear in court next 435 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: month over the murder charge. Do we think that Gracie 436 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: may appear in court, particularly now that she is commenting 437 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: on the case publicly. 438 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: I think Gracie's decision. 439 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: On whether or not to come to the trial would 440 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: be weighing very heavy on her. If you'd asked me 441 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: at the start of the year, I would have said 442 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: there was no way Gracie would rock up to this trial, 443 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: particularly because she shared her infamous New Year's Eve photo 444 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: of just her and her son. It seemed like she 445 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: was trying to distance herself from Andre. However, now because 446 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: she has put up this post which seems to be 447 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: siding with him and saying that the media has got 448 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: it all wrong, I think we could see her turn 449 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: up to this trial. We do have to remember they 450 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: have a trial together, so she can't just remove him 451 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: easily from her life. The thing that is worrying though, 452 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: if Gracie does turn up to this trial, I can 453 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: see it turning into an absolute circus. And as the 454 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: media do, they will focus on the most newsworthy person there, 455 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: which is Gracie, particularly because of her one million followers, 456 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like somehow the emphasis or blame will 457 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: shift towards her. It will become this completely different story. 458 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: Well maybe that's why she has put out this sort 459 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: of message siding with him, because she isn't going to 460 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: go to the trial because she knows it will cause 461 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: a circus, but she kind of wants to show her 462 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: support in. 463 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: A sly way. 464 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: Hey dear, I'm Vanessa Hudgens. 465 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: Welcome to my hum. 466 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 1: A photo from two thousand and seven of Vanessa Hudgens 467 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: meeting a young fan is going viral and you'll never 468 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: guess why, Kate, why has this gone viral? Well, unbelievably, 469 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: the young fan meeting Vanessa in the photo is Vanessa's 470 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, Austin Butler's current girlfriend, Kaya Gerbert. I had 471 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: to explain this to Amy because you were not across 472 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: this information. So Austin Butler is the actor who plays Elvis, 473 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: and have you guys seen that? Now? He can't stop 474 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: talking in his Elvis accents. Oh god, how awkward. He's 475 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: like the new heart throb his knee for twenty somethings. 476 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: Because that makes me feel old because I'm not on 477 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: that train. 478 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: I just got a complete ick from his Elvis voice. 479 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: I was like, stop doing it. Yeah, well, Kaya Gerbert 480 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: has certainly not got the ick. For those who don't know, 481 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: she is a model and actress and I suppose a 482 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: NEPO baby because her mum is Cindy Crawford. Kaya also 483 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: previously dated Pete Davidson. So to put things into perspective, 484 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: Vanessa is thirty four, Austin's thirty one, and Kaya is 485 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: twenty one. So when the women met back in two 486 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, Vanessa was nineteen and Kaya, well, she 487 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: wasn't actually a woman, she was a five year old child. 488 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: It really puts that ten year gap between Austin and 489 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: Kaya into perspective. Yeah, it made me feel a little 490 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: bit weird now. Vanessa and Austin's previous eight year relationship 491 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: made headlines also this week after a video went viral 492 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 1: of Vanessa seemingly snubbing Austin and Kaya on the red carpet. 493 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 2: Did you guys see this was absolutely classic? It was frosty. 494 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: I loved it the way she just looked through him 495 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: like he didn't exist, like she'd never spent a day 496 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: in this fan's company. It was incredible. Yeah. Well, she 497 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: is engaged to sports star Cole Tark and Austin and 498 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: Kaya were first linked back together in twenty twenty one, 499 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: so they've been together for a little while now. I'm 500 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: actually really feeling for Kaya because I feel like this 501 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: is super embarrassing having this photo pop up. 502 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: What a win for Vanessa though. 503 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: Can you imagine she probably had no clue who this 504 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: little girl was. I know that it's Cindy Crawford's daughter, 505 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: but this was probably no sort of blip on her radar. 506 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: That this happened. And then who has pieced this together? 507 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: But now celebrities have to be concerned about their fans 508 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: going and stealing their men. 509 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: Doesn't this feel. 510 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: Very reminiscent of the Selena and Hailey dramas because there's 511 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: so many tiktoks where they found these old photos of 512 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber obviously in the background, fangirling Justin and Selena 513 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: together and all of her old tweets. You gotta be 514 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: so careful as a child. This is why you've got 515 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: to have no digit footprint. Well, it's not really a 516 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: digital footprint, Like I feel like it was probably a 517 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: promo photo taken because Cindy Crawford's in the background of 518 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: the photo, like no one was giving a shit about 519 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Gerber when she was five years I wonder it's 520 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: so funny because Kaya obviously would have remembered that this 521 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: had happened. I wonder if it was ever a conversation 522 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: between her and Austin, like, hey, I actually met your 523 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: long term ex no, your friend as a child, she 524 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: would have pretended like she had no idea because that's 525 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: what you've got to do when these sort of things happen, 526 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: You like, did that happen? 527 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I've completely forgot. 528 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassing to be a fan though it's a fan 529 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: that's oh my god for a high school musical, particularly 530 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: because they were in a relationship for eight years. It's 531 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: not like it was some sort of pr relationship between 532 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: Austin and Vanessa, particularly when you are thirteen years younger 533 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: than the previous X. It's a bit like when London 534 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Going got caught out being a super fan of Reeese 535 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Hawkins and Tammy Hemburke. Yeah, I know. 536 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: Now. 537 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: To make things even weirder, Kaya's ex, Jacob Eldi from Euphoria, 538 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: is playing Elvis in an upcoming movie called Priscilla, so 539 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: she really must have a type. 540 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 2: Wow, look at all these connections. 541 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: It's almost like the Kardashian Avril Levigne Jenna mind map. 542 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: Again. 543 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: All these people are connected together. I know. Side note, 544 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: I would have thought that Jacob is too tall to 545 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: play Elvis Presley. I also really hope that he doesn't 546 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: start speaking in the Elvis accent permanently, because he has 547 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: such a cute voice. 548 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: He's Australian. Well, I think that's. 549 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: All we've got time for today. Thank you so much 550 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode about Spoken. This podcast was 551 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of 552 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: the Adelaide Planes. 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