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Speaker 1: This episode of the Surge is brought to you by Origin,

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Speaker 1: proud partners of Cricket Australia and powering the Power Surge

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Speaker 1: in BBL fifteen Big Bash. He's about to went to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six and it's the Melbourne Stars who lead

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Speaker 1: the field in the race to the BBL fifteen Finals.

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Speaker 1: Brat send Raison joins me at the desk. He makes

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Speaker 1: his debut while Adelaide Strikers sensation Jeresis Wadia dials in

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Speaker 1: before the annual New Year's Eve fixture at Adelaide Oval.

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Speaker 1: This is the Surge. Heyday, everybody, and welcome to the Surge.

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Speaker 1: Is a very special edition because we have a very

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Speaker 1: special co host. I've worn my brighter shirt. I have

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Speaker 1: sort of mix in with the backdrop here because we

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Speaker 1: have got Brat Senda Raison with us for the first

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Speaker 1: time on the Surge. Welcome, bas, Welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted to be on the Surgeon. I've waited

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Speaker 2: my turn like you do. Like we did when we

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Speaker 2: were growing up. You know, you didn't like go and

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Speaker 2: grab at it.

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Speaker 3: It's left balls alone. Oh they don't do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, So it's been wonderful I've had the pleasure of

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Speaker 2: traveling the world with you, showing you the world a

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Speaker 2: bit through my eyes. I have I have coached you

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Speaker 2: in life and we had some moments in Grenada and

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Speaker 2: Jamaica which you will never get back. But now it's

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Speaker 2: so good to be here. And you know, because of

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Speaker 2: just the way the Test summer is. Often I miss

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Speaker 2: out on being on the BBL train like you know.

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Speaker 2: It's you know how long Test match days are. So

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Speaker 2: you started what I was seven in the morning or

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Speaker 2: six in the morning like I do. You finish at

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Speaker 2: nine pm and then as soon as that much cricket

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Speaker 2: you can consume. But yeah, you always keep a close,

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Speaker 2: keen eye on what's happening, and even though if you

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Speaker 2: can't see each match play out, you always know who's

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Speaker 2: who's where and what's happening.

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Speaker 3: And it's it's such a fun product to be about.

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Speaker 1: Of the usually we're speaking about test Creer when we're

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Speaker 1: working together, but from a baby ol perspective, as as

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Speaker 1: does that naturally make you a Strikers fan?

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Speaker 2: Look, I get asked this question in an afil sense

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Speaker 2: to go with one of the two Adelaide teams. I

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Speaker 2: have done work with the Adelaie Strikers, both the BBL

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Speaker 2: and the WBBL. I did famously bowl the celebrity ball,

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Speaker 2: I think the first ever they tried it last year

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Speaker 2: before the WBBL. I was you know me, I'm not

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Speaker 2: nothing makes me nervous, sidy, but I was nervous. I

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Speaker 3: They're sledging me asking me not to do a John Howard.

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Speaker 2: And then I was like, oh god, this lander ball

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Speaker 2: I felt like a Strikers person that day, and I

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Speaker 2: I became a Strikers fan. No, it's look, it's it's

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Speaker 2: I think a South Australian trade. As I've learned since

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Speaker 2: I've moved, we are the tiny state. I mean not

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Speaker 3: So what the Strikers, what the men and the.

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Speaker 2: of other South or student teams haven't been able to

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Speaker 3: So we take a lot of pride in our strikers.

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Speaker 2: So well, I guess I am a striker's guy, even

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Speaker 3: So depending on who I'm with.

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Speaker 1: I so that you want to buy your allegiance.

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Speaker 3: You don't go to them? Why do they let them

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Speaker 1: Exactly right? So, I mean there's so many questions I'd

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Speaker 3: And I'll never forget the tagline on Star Sports as

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Speaker 3: it was back then Australia the breeding ground of champions

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Speaker 2: And then they'd be like Nathan, young Nathan Bracken with

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Speaker 2: So you watch IPL during our summer back there, and

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Speaker 2: Down that pecking order right when the PSL came along,

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Speaker 2: So it's so good to see the BBL sort of

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Speaker 2: as important as it is for an Australian men's and

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Speaker 2: BBL being strong is as important as Australian national teams

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good point, you mate, because we

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Speaker 1: I think we can focus a bit too much at

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Speaker 2: Because Australian cricket, in my opinion, is so different to

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Speaker 2: in all these international stars coming here, whether they're from

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Speaker 3: So we can't I know, we'll talk about as privatization and.

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Speaker 2: How important that will be for the league, and that

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Speaker 3: But I think you cannot take your eyes away from

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Speaker 2: It is for domestic talent to emerge and come through

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Speaker 2: because I think for the longest time, and correct me

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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, Whitey, I always felt like the BBL

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Speaker 2: it should be like a league which is like you know,

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Speaker 3: I think at one point you kind of.

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Speaker 2: Lost touch with what it really was. But I just

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Speaker 3: What it is and how Australian a product it is.

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Speaker 2: And then when privatization happens, you can't forget that either.

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Speaker 2: So it should be privatized. There should be more money

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Speaker 2: I still feel it should remain Australian, where the focus

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Speaker 2: is always more on the Australian players, whether they are

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Speaker 2: foreign stars being more icing on the cake.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So from a privatization point of view, what do

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Speaker 1: you think that will mean the competition? So we talk

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Speaker 1: you have what do you think that will mean? How

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Speaker 1: will it improve the BBL.

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Speaker 2: It will obviously open the doors for more international players

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Speaker 2: coming here. Obviously doesn't mean that there won't be a

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Speaker 2: and just for three Australian players in any BBL team

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Speaker 2: sell it into the world, into the global market, you'll

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Speaker 3: They're not not used to it.

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Speaker 2: So and to your point as well, there are a

438
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: lot of Indian fans here, but there are also a

439
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 2: lot of Pakistan fans.

440
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 3: We see it every time Pakistan come and.

441
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 2: Play Test cricket one day cricketer and for a lot

442
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 2: of them to get up close and personal with the

443
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,879
Speaker 2: Barbarason is something that they can only dream of. And

444
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: the fact that they can do it at the seg

445
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 2: or you know, they can do it at Marvel and

446
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 2: they can do it in Australia would home away from

447
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: home as well, just adds an extra layer to it.

448
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 1: So I've come, but Ravi Ashwan didn't come. He almost came.

449
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't for a dodgy nay. Now I know you

450
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: know him extremely well. What would have happened had he come?

451
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Speaker 2: I think firstly, I'll give you a bit of background

452
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: on how that whole thing worked out. Like so, urn

453
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: Ashman announces his retirement from the IPL. So there's always

454
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: these questions that I get asked, why can't Indian players go?

455
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: And it's just a business.

456
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: It's pure business because the BCCI I don't want the

457
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: market to be diluted because there's always been this fear

458
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 2: that a big name Indian player goes somewhere, sponsors go

459
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: with him, right, and they don't want the market to

460
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 2: be diluted. That's why you need to officially retire from

461
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: the IPL and as an Indian cricketer to even think

462
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: about doing something like this, and it had to be

463
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: our rushwn like he's always thought outside the box at

464
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: a time when most retired cricketers of that those credentials

465
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Speaker 2: in India going to the commentary box. He just started

466
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: his own YouTube channel and he's just got millions of

467
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: followers and he's you know, doing really well with it.

468
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: So similarly, when the when he announced his retirement from

469
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Speaker 2: the IPL, I just like dislike it. He's of a message.

470
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: I sent him, Hey, you should come and play for

471
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: the Strikers, Like what do you think about it? And

472
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 2: then I didn't realize that he was taking it seriously.

473
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 2: He was actually planning to do something like that, and

474
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Speaker 2: then treaded Todd Greenberg. I think he caught wind of it,

475
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: and then he reached out to our Rushwin and the

476
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: chats were very, very productive from from the early going.

477
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: So I was my role in all of that was

478
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: to explain to Usher and how it works here. They're

479
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: not privately owned the BBL clubs, but they privately managed,

480
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: and you know, to explain to him like you know,

481
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: it's not so much about the money here, like you know,

482
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: you're not going to get an IPO deal sort of

483
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: money here, but they will work around it and so

484
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: we like it.

485
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 3: Was used to be an interesting period.

486
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: So he would speak to all these clubs who were

487
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: reaching out to him, at least six of them I

488
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: think it reached out to him personally, and then he

489
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: would talk to me and like, you know, you'd got

490
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: go back and forth over this club but I know

491
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 2: maybe they should consider going to that club and eventually

492
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Speaker 2: full credit to Trent Copeland and.

493
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Speaker 3: The Thunder guys.

494
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Speaker 2: I remember one day, and I like to embarrass Copes

495
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 2: with this because I shouldn't call me one day and said, Copland,

496
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: what a nice guy.

497
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Speaker 3: He just just just sold it so nicely and he

498
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Speaker 3: really I want to work with him, And I said,

499
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Speaker 3: he he's a nice guy.

500
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Speaker 5: I know.

501
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 3: I worked with him quite a bit for Channel seven

502
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: and then so the deal was done. He was so

503
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: keen to come.

504
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: So he was not just keen to come and play

505
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: in the tournament Whitey, because he is a cricket nut.

506
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: He watches everything and like I remember Trent Copeland telling

507
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: me the first time he had a conversation with him,

508
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have get talking about the Thunder players. The

509
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 2: domestic Australian player. Yeah, I really am impressed with that

510
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: guy or this guy, but that's just him that he

511
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: watches more cricket and analyzes more cricket then maybe even

512
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: you and I do. So he was so excited to

513
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: come here and play for Thunder but also be part

514
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 2: of the whole of the bbl's circuit. There's also a

515
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: lot of talk of him helping out and spreading the

516
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: wings of the Thunder into the Western Sydney region where

517
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 2: which is very multicultural, a lot of people from the

518
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: sub continent there. But most importantly and look, this doesn't

519
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: mean that he's never going to come. He will come

520
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 2: next year if he's fit. Unfortunately he wasn't crutches till

521
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: just a few weeks ago and he's back on his

522
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: feet now, so he'll start training. And it's very keen

523
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: to come next year next summer and play. Whether it's

524
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: for the Thunder, it will be for the Thunder. I

525
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: assume what it will do when he does come and

526
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: play and say if he had played here, it will

527
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: open the door to other Indian players, or start like

528
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: this is two problem. The first thing is yes, we'll

529
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: open the door for whoever it is like and however

530
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: high profile they are, once they're done playing for the IPL,

531
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: or once they're done in the IPL, if they still

532
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: have the the little you know worm in their head

533
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: going like maybe like I want to the clicker one

534
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: more one more like you know thing, because coming and

535
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: playing cricket in Australia even now for an Indian cricketer

536
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: is up there with probably the best experience out there,

537
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: they would want to come. And I think it will

538
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: open the doors for whether it's a Koalie or a

539
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: Royd Sharma or not, to just you know, come and

540
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: get a taste of the BBL for a season, or

541
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 2: to be away from the maddening crowd and the whole

542
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: intensity of playing cricket in India, whether it's hypo.

543
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: Or for India.

544
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: And I thought it was a big boost for cricket

545
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 2: Australia in their quest to bring privatization into the BBL.

546
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,479
Speaker 2: Once you start even the idea of an Indian creckator

547
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: of that note I mean, and being part of the BBL,

548
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 2: and suddenly you're like, you know, your your dialogue with

549
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: the investors is very different, right, it sounds very different.

550
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: So I think it will happen, and I think it'll

551
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: be a big, big it will be a turning point

552
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: for for the BBL. It's a pretty it's not happening

553
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: this time. And I can tell you I speak to

554
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: Ashman every week I do his YouTube show, and he

555
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: still is so disappointed that it's not this summer. But

556
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: this is from Ushwin to everyone else watching this and

557
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 2: listening to this, he'll be back. He wants to come

558
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: and entertain you guys.

559
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: Well, our special guest on the show today is a

560
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: Jeresis Valiant. I'm really afoord to He just exploded onto

561
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: the scene in the last week. So he's going to

562
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 1: be our special guest. But before we get to him,

563
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: one more question the Big Bash, if you had a

564
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: moment that stands out for you as as your favorite.

565
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: It's a tough question.

566
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know.

567
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Look, I can easily say it's that Travis said hundred

568
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: famous one hundred New Year's Eve, isn't it? But I

569
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 2: think I'm going to go with Shane warn Marlon Samuel's

570
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 2: like and I'm a wrestling guy, and as I've told

571
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: you before, I'm very good friends with Marlon. Not too

572
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: many people who say that, and yeah, I mean that

573
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: was real Marlon. That was real Marlin. That was real

574
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: Warnie And they've had a long history and it all

575
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: just you know, played out in front of us and

576
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: I hadn't Finchburg guy was at the other end, not

577
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 2: knowing what to do. But I think that that clip

578
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: must have done more rounds around the world at that stage,

579
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: and any six or any boundary or any wicked than

580
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: had taken place in the bill. You need a bit

581
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: of that in it for for whatever league it is

582
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: or whatever support you're playing body.

583
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: So that has to be my favorite moment.

584
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: When you talk to Marlin about that did what's his

585
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: view on it all, what's his perspective.

586
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: I think it goes back to a long history of

587
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: just playing against Australia and the whole feeling within the Caribbean,

588
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: not just Marlon Off as some of them say, they

589
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: like to give it, they'll like to take it okay.

590
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: So I think there was a lot of that because

591
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: that was the period where you know, you had Australia

592
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: traveling there and one he had retired from international trigate

593
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: because there was a lot of friction between.

594
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: Like you know, the Gaels and the Samuels and those

595
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 3: guys and the Australian players. Back then.

596
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: There was a two thousand and six Champions Trophy game

597
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: where it got pretty ugly and then Jerome Taylor took

598
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: a hat trick. You'd remember that at CCI. So I

599
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: think it was all part of that. But I don't

600
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: know whether Shane Vaughan was playing up to the crowd.

601
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: Alin certainly wasn't and I think it was very very

602
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: personal for both and Alin will tell you we had

603
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: the final save when you know West Indies one that

604
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: woke up in twenty sixteen when he stormed into the

605
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 2: press conference room not knowing with the media manager not

606
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: even knowing. He just walked up to me and said

607
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: you stand here, and he just sat on the chair

608
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: with his feet on the table and randomly spoke about

609
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: Shane Waughan and how he doesn't like his face. Only

610
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: Marlon can do that. So it was a personal thing

611
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: which got played out on the big stage, the best

612
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: wrestling angle. I were in cricket.

613
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Exactly right in the middle of the MCGM. All right,

614
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: we're going to take a break. We're going to come

615
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: back and talk to someone who took the BBL by

616
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: storm the other night. What what a first impression to make.

617
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: That's next.

618
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 6: A side Who Wow, Wow, that has gone a long way.

619
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Speaker 6: Tops back to back sixes from Maia. This time he's

620
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 6: gone over said another one straight in a row, Wow,

621
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Speaker 6: three in.

622
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: A row over the road.

623
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: I still can't believe how good that was. Seeing those

624
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: sixers the other night at the Gabba and they were

625
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: hit by Jesus Vardia who joins us now on the surge. Jesus,

626
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: I've watched it plenty of times. My kids have watched

627
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: it plenty of times. How many times have you watched it?

628
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 5: Half a million times?

629
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: What a what a wild start?

630
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: Yeah it was. It was.

631
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: Honestly, while I'm speechless, I don't know what was going

632
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 4: through my head at that first ball, just reacted and

633
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 4: just kept going with it.

634
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: And yeah, we're.

635
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: Nervous going out to be because you didn't look nervous,

636
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: so it'd be interesting in your in your mindset as

637
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: you went out about it at the Gabba full house,

638
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: millions of people watching on television. What was going through

639
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: your mind?

640
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 5: Well, I wouldn't say I wasn't nervous, but there was

641
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: a chat with like Pain.

642
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 4: He told us to just give ourselves absolute freedom, and

643
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: the way he's been talking to us and me particularly

644
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: helping me in terms of full backing, and just I

645
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: wanted to express as much as I can.

646
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: And yeah, I was nervous. I wasn't.

647
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that I wasn't, but it was just

648
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: about me expressing at the best of my abilities and

649
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 4: just being committed to what I do and yeah, just yeah,

650
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 4: it happened.

651
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 5: Luckily I watched it.

652
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, I was at the MCG, so I just

653
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: covered another crazy day of test cricket and I was like,

654
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: I thought I'd seen a lot in cricket, but this

655
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: is crazy. And then I was still back there in

656
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: the MCG commentary boxes were finishing my pieces writing. I

657
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: looked up at the screen and I thought, I saw

658
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: you hit those three six and I went, wait, hang on,

659
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: the day just got crazy.

660
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: So I mean, it's not just the fact that you

661
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: hit the sixes. Is the fact that where you hit

662
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: the sixes and of a pretty experienced border as well.

663
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been practicing a lot with those

664
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: rams and stuff. I've been doing a lot of drills

665
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: with that. But the most important thing is backing the

666
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: ability and backing my skills. And it came off something

667
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 4: the other day, other day, one came off. One won't

668
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 4: come off. But the most important thing is that acting

669
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: your skills. And I think I backed it and I

670
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 4: was one hundred percent committed and yeah, I know those

671
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: which was which is pretty cool and good to do

672
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 4: that in the second game, I suppose, Yeah.

673
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: And what was Paine's reaction when you when you went back,

674
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 2: you know, he has he put a lot of faith

675
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: in you and he's been a big supporter of you.

676
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: So when you pulled that off, like eventually, when you

677
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: met him after that, what did he say?

678
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: He was really happy, he was he was stoked.

679
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: His reaction was, yeah, it was Actually he came up,

680
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: he sat besides me and he told me that this

681
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 4: is something which is really special that I've seen and

682
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 4: he has never seen something like that, which was really

683
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: cool to hear. And yeah, it was really nice, really

684
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 4: nice to get that feedback from your head coach. It

685
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 4: makes you feel really comfortable and confident moving forward. So

686
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 4: nights he was really happy. Would have been better if

687
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 4: I could have pulled it off.

688
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, just it's like, it's an interesting name and

689
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: I originally come from Mumbai, so uh, it is a

690
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: party name and we were just speaking about it off

691
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: and not a lot of people in Australia know much

692
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: about Parsi, so even Adam White. I just finished give

693
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: him giving him a forty minute lecture on on parts

694
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: like where they originally come from and how Indian cricket

695
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: was just littered with parsies for the first thirty forty years.

696
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 3: So can you just tell us about your background.

697
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: Cricket is in our blood. Parsi love their cricket, love

698
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: their beer, love their drinking as well. I don't drink,

699
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: but yeah, cricket is in our blood. I think the

700
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 4: first Indian cricket team was Parsi. All eleven were Parsy.

701
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: But yeah, it came from my grandpa. He has got

702
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 4: a Guineas War record for an oldest player to scored

703
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: one hundred. He scored one hundred and age of sixty three.

704
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: And my grandpa wanted my dad to become a cricketer.

705
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: Wasn't good enough put it And then I lived all

706
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: my life with my grandparents and yeah, it's my grandpa's

707
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: goal that I'm I'm walking on and that's his dream.

708
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's it's in our blood. A bit of background.

709
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, we originated from Iran, but yeah, now it's one

710
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 4: thing is for sure. Cricket is in our blood and

711
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 4: it's it's in our family.

712
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, great story, great story. So how did your

713
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: family react? We've asked you how you reacted to what

714
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: you did at the gather? How about your family saying

715
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: seeing you there, on the on the big stage.

716
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they they were.

717
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 4: They had mixed feelings because I got hit on the chest,

718
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: but they were, they were. They were speechless as well.

719
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: My mom was.

720
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 4: My mom started crying now she was, she was really emotional.

721
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: My grandpa, dad, they were all watching. They all started

722
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 4: calling me and stuff.

723
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: It was they were. They were so happy. I was.

724
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: I was really really happy to see them. I've never

725
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 4: seen them that happy ever, and yeah, it was. It

726
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 4: was actually so nice to see their reactions. They were

727
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: really excited. It was a little bit of coaching also

728
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: from my dad that why did I play those shots?

729
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 4: And that's all That's typical Indian mindset and there's always

730
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 4: a little bit of a you know, teaching, they're involved,

731
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: But overall they were.

732
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 5: They were really pleased and happy, which was really nice

733
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 5: to see.

734
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: So, Jesse, I want to know, how are you going

735
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: to keep your feet on the ground because the expectations

736
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: now go through the roof from outside your bubble. But

737
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm just interested in, as will Tim Paine talk to

738
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: you about this? Is this something that your family talked

739
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: to you about? Are you very disciplined yourself in saying, okay,

740
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: this is this is one game, but I want to

741
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: do more than this. I've just got a taste of it.

742
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, like absolutely spot on there.

743
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 4: I think now, I think I have to be more

744
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: aware and more focused on my skill and I just

745
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: I just have to be really sure what I can

746
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: control and how I can move forward. I had a

747
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: really nice that would Parsonali because he has been into

748
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: this for a long time now, he's copped a lot

749
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 4: of praise. Also, the same like you would you would

750
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 4: get the that same person who's praised him pubbled two

751
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: days before, you would be spraying him the next day.

752
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 4: So that's that's basically how cricket works and the outside

753
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: world is. But again, if I can stick to my

754
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 4: process and just focused on stay focused on what I

755
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: can control, and the most important.

756
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 5: Part about cricket is the next ball.

757
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: Whether I'm bowling, batting, fielding, and if I'm in that

758
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: moment present on that next ball, that's pretty much it.

759
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 4: I can't do anything else, and I don't think I

760
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 4: need to do anything else except focusing on that next ball,

761
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: because that's the most important part that is going to be.

762
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: That happening to me, you know. So if I can

763
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: just focus on that next.

764
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 4: Ball, whether it's training, playing, whatever I'm doing because that's

765
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: the only thing that I'm in one hundred percent control

766
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 4: and it's like after that, whatever happens happens.

767
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: But if I can do that really well, it'll be good.

768
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just want to know how many rams

769
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: your grandfather played when he made the hundred and when

770
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: he was sixty three.

771
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: None, he didn't know there was a ramp. Also, the

772
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 4: way he holds his bad you know, there's the old

773
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 4: grip like they're really like that.

774
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 5: He the bat like that. I'm like, oh, how did

775
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 5: you even score one hundred? Wow?

776
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: That's how we were know, That's how we were talking

777
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: about and Bombay Bossu. So yeah, so when did your

778
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: family move here? And like did you did you grow

779
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: up here? And you know, what are your links to Indiana?

780
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 5: Oh?

781
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 4: My family is back home. I tell you about myself

782
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 4: for cricket, the only goal or cricket I was here.

783
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 4: It's really like the really odd story and I think

784
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: I would be the only one. I came here when

785
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 4: I was seventeen, stayed here for around eight to twelve months.

786
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: Was in the essay under nineteen South Australia under nineteen

787
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: Squad borders were going to close because of COVID. I

788
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: was by myself. I wasn't able to financially sustain by

789
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: myself because I don't know when the borders would open up,

790
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 4: started to go back, stayed in India, played junior state

791
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: cricket again, stayed twenty threes and stuff because in India,

792
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: my junior under nineteens completely wasn't there because COVID hit

793
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: and there was no junior cricket in India. And in India,

794
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: if you miss under nineteens it becomes really really tough

795
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 4: because there's so many good proper young kids that they

796
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 4: straight away get fast fast tracted to the IPO and

797
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: the Indian A system and stuff like that. So I

798
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: had to make a decision what I needed to do.

799
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: I left everything and came to Australia just to just

800
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: for one goal, to play cricket, nothing else. At the start,

801
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: it was really tough. My family wasn't sure about it.

802
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: They were there were disagreements because they were not financially

803
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 4: able to support. They just did it for the first

804
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: couple of months and then I was by myself. But

805
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: I had won clear goal in my mind and clear

806
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: belief that I will invest two three years and give

807
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: my all and see where it takes me. Because it's

808
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 4: just one life. Why not you know, if it works,

809
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 4: it works, doesn't doesn't. So yeah, it's like if I

810
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: go to the depth of it. It was tough, it

811
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: was hard, it was struggling. I don't have a car yet.

812
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 4: I've been busting all around South Australia with the kid bag.

813
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: But it's been it's been. Yeah, it's been good to

814
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: be where I am now and this is just the

815
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: start of the journey. I want to keep going because

816
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: I don't want to go back to that life that

817
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: I was living three months ago.

818
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I have a lot of respect for that.

819
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: I mean, as someone who left everything behind and moved

820
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: to Australia myself, I mean I already had cricket in

821
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: my life, but so I respect that a lot.

822
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 3: That's a great story. This is an amazing story.

823
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: Why didn't you floored me? I know, why do you

824
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 2: rarely speechless? But he's just stood, He's just sat here

825
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: like he just has that look of great pride. He's

826
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: a father of two sons as well, so yeah, you know.

827
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: So so in terms of being noticed by by Tim

828
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 2: Payne and the strikers. How did that work out? And

829
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: how big a moment was that for you? I mean,

830
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: especially after the sacrifices you made.

831
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: I was unbelievable.

832
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 7: It all started last year when there was the India

833
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 7: Tour of Australia BGT. I bowled to Heady and I

834
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 7: think McSweeney and they wanted to face some left arm spin.

835
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 7: I did that and I bowled well to them, and

836
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 7: from there on, I don't know, something clicked and I

837
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 7: was like, hang on, I.

838
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: Can actually play this level.

839
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: I actually watched them live and bowling to them, I

840
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: felt like they're not They're obviously great, but the skill

841
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 4: level it's it's not a lot of difference. It's just

842
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: their thinking and their mindset and there and the way

843
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: that they read the game that's different.

844
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 5: I figured that out.

845
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: So I started gaining confidence in terms of skills, like,

846
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: all right, skills are not that obviously it is important,

847
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 4: but it's not that much important as much as your

848
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 4: mindset and the way you think about the game. Because

849
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: everyone knows how to play the cover drive, like a

850
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 4: good on a nine cricketer or a good figater knows

851
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 4: how to play the cover drive. But a cover drive

852
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: at mcg will be different to a cover drive at Adelaide.

853
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: Oh well, the wickets will play different. So that's where

854
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 4: the good players and the great players assess and adapt.

855
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 4: And that's what I started working on. Rather than just

856
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: hitting balls, trying to get some new show in my

857
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: book or something like that, I was just focused on

858
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: how can I get fearless, how can I not worry

859
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: about what's happening. And then there was a little melt

860
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 4: like it was a little tournament, tournament that happened all

861
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: of a sudden in Melbourne. But I was picked as

862
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: a left arm spinner and it was a T ten tournament.

863
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: I was striking as the academy and the first game

864
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: I played, the only opportunity I got to bad It

865
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: was I was eight. I was my number was eight

866
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: or nine. It was two hours to go. I did

867
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 4: first ball for a six, and slowly gradually there was

868
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 4: another game. I hit another first ball for a six,

869
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: and then Painey goes, this is something different.

870
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: Looking up. Why I was young.

871
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: It was a decent quality. There are a few BBO

872
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: players there and good state cricketers. But yeah, and then

873
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 4: I met Paine, got more confidence, the more I started

874
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 4: doing that, Painty came up to me. He started telling

875
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: me that this is what you're doing, and this is

876
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 4: something which is really good and really nice. And that

877
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: gave me a lot of confidence that, hang on, this

878
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: is something that is working. Being fearless, being open to

879
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: everything and just trying to express.

880
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 5: My game out there in the middle. And yeah, it.

881
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 4: Started from there. The tournament really well. Tournament went really well,

882
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 4: and then I joined the soccer academy. I was lucky

883
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 4: enough to be picked in the socker sorry not soccer,

884
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 4: the Adelaide Strikers Academy, and I trained a lot with them,

885
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 4: learned a lot from every player.

886
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 5: I used to ask a lot of questions, a lot

887
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 5: of questions there.

888
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: There were times when players didn't wanted to answer, but

889
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: I was just super stop to be in that environment.

890
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 5: Training at Adelaide.

891
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 4: Oval, I'd watched Collie hit you know that little clip,

892
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen clip at Adelaide Oval, and I was batting

893
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: there and I was getting goosebumps that man. He was

894
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 4: literally here and smacking bolder all around and I'm batting

895
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: year and I'm training here, and I straight away called

896
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: my grand play and asked. I told him that this

897
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 4: is happening. I'm going to trainings at all, clicking photos

898
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 4: of that like it was. It was amazing. But yeah, no,

899
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: they they supported me a lot as well. They knew

900
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: I was struggling. They helped me out with with whatever

901
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 4: they could. And yeah, from there on gradually just the hunger.

902
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure that I keep on

903
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: keep on pushing. Yeah, and that was it was nice.

904
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: Telling this story so well, jess As it's it is incredible.

905
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: So you might have already answered this question, but but

906
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: who are your heroes growing up and who are your

907
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: heroes now? Players that perhaps you you try and emulate.

908
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: It might be your grandfather, but from an Indian point

909
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: of view, or from a it might be Travis's head.

910
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 6: I don't know.

911
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Tell us.

912
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 5: So growing up, it was your right sing lefty good,

913
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 5: really good swing, smooth better.

914
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: Also at a really tough phase in his life with cancer,

915
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 4: and he came back got a hundred, one hundred and

916
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: fifty in a one day's highest one day score. So

917
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: he was my he was my main hero after him

918
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: obviously as an Indian colligue, just the way he's been

919
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: like in white ball format, especially one day cricket and

920
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: over a year out here watching Travis head his mindset

921
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 4: mainly he's so free and just trying to like mix

922
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: everything and trying to like gain their best and just

923
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: learn what they do their best and trying to put

924
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: that in me. That is what I've been trying. And yeah,

925
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 4: those those three especially, they're they're unbelievable players, human beings,

926
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 4: and yeah, it's trying to be like them and aspire

927
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: to be like them, and yeah, they've inspired me a lot.

928
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: And then my last question for you is where do

929
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: you want to end up? What's what's the end game

930
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: for you?

931
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 4: Jesus, I want to play for Australia. I want to

932
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: play Australia red ball and white ball and that's the

933
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 4: goal that that's that's the goal, and not just.

934
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 5: A game.

935
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: I want to I want to have a longer career.

936
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: I want to work hard, I want to get better.

937
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 4: I want to learn, and yeah, that's that's the goal.

938
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: I want to get better as a person and and

939
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 4: just learn. I've been learning so much and this game

940
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 4: is all about that, learning every day and learning every game.

941
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 4: It's a really early days for me in this in

942
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: this environment now, but yeah, that's that's the goal, and

943
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 4: that's always has been the goal. And just trying to

944
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 4: improve as much as I can in every aspect of

945
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 4: myself and my cricket.

946
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: You say, oh, you never say speech.

947
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 3: It's an amazing story and uh you know, I'm proud

948
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: to call them a fellow.

949
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: So you might you might as a manager in the

950
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: about five minutes.

951
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm already signed, signing him up. I've

952
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: never managed that before. Uh No, it's awesome.

953
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: Like I'll be there at the athlete all tomorrow for

954
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: uh the BBO game, So I carn't wait to uh

955
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: see you in person, and uh you know, and if

956
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: you're bowling to anyone in the nets, the chances that

957
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: I was stood behind the nets, so I have already

958
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 2: seen you bawl.

959
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: Uh No, just is there?

960
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a tough journey to leave, you know,

961
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: the country you were born in and to come to

962
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: an alien land and to create your own space. Is

963
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: there anything about India that you miss or like you

964
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: know is that I don't, But I just wanted to

965
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: put you on the spot there and uh, you know,

966
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: just the other aspects to non cricketing aspects, how challenging

967
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 2: have those aspects been to fit into society here?

968
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 5: Oh, India, I miss all because of my family. I

969
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 5: missed my family a lot. I went.

970
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: I went from a brief period to India for ten

971
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 4: twelve days because my grandma passed away last year.

972
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 5: It was really heartbreaking.

973
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: But my family because as you know how emotional we are,

974
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: we're so touched to our family and the way I

975
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 4: was treated because I was the only kid in our

976
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: whole family, like because my my grandfather has got three kids,

977
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 4: three boys, and I was the only kid for that

978
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 4: period where you know, you're you're pampered, you're you're you're.

979
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 5: The main part of that family and I was so close.

980
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 4: That's that's the only part about India I miss And

981
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 4: also bowling on those reds or wickets, wouldn't wouldn't wouldn't mind,

982
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind bowling on those Wi kids as well, So

983
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: I missed that a little, but mainly the family.

984
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really art because I did know how to cook.

985
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 4: I used to cook myself, so every part of myself,

986
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 4: like washing clothes and cooking dinners. And it was just

987
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 4: so hard because then you get the value and understand

988
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: how important your family is. And that's what I noticed

989
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: as soon as I came here and I passed like

990
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 4: I stayed here for a couple of months, and I

991
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 4: was like, Mak, this is I should be grateful for

992
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 4: the life that I'd had in India and now I

993
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: miss it, you know, but it's it's a part of

994
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 4: the journey. And again that drive just kept me going.

995
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 4: Learn how to cook, learn how to you know, do

996
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: what I can learn, how to stay independent.

997
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just want to confirm how old are you? Jesus.

998
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm twenty four now, just turned last month November twenty seconds.

999
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 5: Very impressive twenty.

1000
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so impressive that and thank you for sharing

1001
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: it's it's it's you know, it's one thing to have

1002
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: the story. It's another thing to share it and to

1003
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: be able to share it as well as you have.

1004
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: So thank you so much. And as we leave you,

1005
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: I'm now saying, it's a bit confused. Will we call

1006
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: you a bowling all rounder, a batting all rounder as

1007
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: my kids would say, a fifty to fifty a rounder?

1008
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: What would you describe yourself as.

1009
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 4: I'm having you with fifty to fifty fifty if you

1010
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: can add like a little fielding as well.

1011
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 5: That'll be nice, all right.

1012
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Well, one thing, one thing I'll be certainly doing is

1013
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: adding him into my super coach. Hearing all of this, Jessics,

1014
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Good luck in the bright lights

1015
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: of Adelaide New Year's Eve cricket. It doesn't get much

1016
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: bigger than that in the in the BBL. And you

1017
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: are a team that is going under the radar and

1018
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: it is because of players like yourself. A very even

1019
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: team and all the very best for the rest of

1020
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: the summer. And let's see where the journey takes you next.

1021
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 4: No, thank you so much. Also a question for you guys,

1022
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 4: this is my first interview in my life.

1023
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 5: Now what do you think? What do you rate me? Like,

1024
00:50:59,400 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 5: what's the rating?

1025
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's eleven out of ten.

1026
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: Between there's fifty years of interviewing experience. Yeah, that is

1027
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: one of the most impressive interviews I've done. Because you're

1028
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: told your story. We didn't have to do much. So No,

1029
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: when you'll get to.

1030
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: Travis Travis Head, he should be listening to you and

1031
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: how to do an interview. They were about him taking

1032
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: you out to bat. Very impressive, very impressive. Thank you

1033
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: so much for joining us on so much. Thank you,

1034
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, guys, thank you for jeez. Welcome

1035
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 1: back to the Surge. Jess's Vartiert. Well, we've certainly found

1036
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: out something there. I'm struggling for words to be honest

1037
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: for it, because that's totally flawed me. I mean, he's

1038
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: batting the other night, flawed me. But then for a

1039
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: young man to tell his stories first ever interview the

1040
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: way he's done that, that's that's flawed me.

1041
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, firstly the story itself, right, like to

1042
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: leave home by yourself with let's face it. I mean,

1043
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: for a kid that young to say that I'm going

1044
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: to go to Australia and play cricket, like I said,

1045
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 2: like it's one thing doing it like me when I

1046
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: was thirty and had an established career and I was

1047
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 2: well known in the industry and all of that.

1048
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 3: But that's not even like I didn't come here to

1049
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: play cricket.

1050
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: But for him to have not really played very high

1051
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: level cricket, as you said, but to come here and

1052
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: want to play cricket and bank on himself and like

1053
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, all the sacrifices he's made, and then a

1054
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 2: bbal contract and then to confidently say I want to

1055
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: play for Australia at twenty four.

1056
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: That takes some doing and I'm backing. I'm backing a man.

1057
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, because there is this thing that says, well,

1058
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: it's only one game, but it's not one game. I

1059
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: actually did cover the TA ten Melbourne Invitational last year

1060
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: that he played in, and he did lave a lasting

1061
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: impression just from what he did then, and that was

1062
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: I guess, like lucky show, we're playing in that tournament

1063
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: just as an example of dynamic that's been this is

1064
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: the future of Australian cricket here it was. It was

1065
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: actually a really good tournament and and he was one

1066
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: that that definitely stood out. So he's been around for

1067
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: a little while so and I don't think it's a

1068
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: it's a one hit wonder. And based on on what

1069
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: he's just said, then you know you can't not barrack

1070
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: for him. I think that's the other part of it

1071
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, yes, no, wait, before we finish the

1072
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: program today, so it's short and sharp. Barbara's fans would

1073
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: be disappointed with his BBL season to this point.

1074
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: Wait, is that an answer because he's met arf since

1075
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 2: you know, hasn't he, So he takes a while barber.

1076
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Once he gets going, that's just how his innings go

1077
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: as well. Yes, once he gets his eye in lookout.

1078
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 1: Okay, David Warner should be opening the batting for the

1079
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: Thunder and not sitting at number four.

1080
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I think he needs. Look I mean, David want

1081
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: to know how many more seasons of BBL we have?

1082
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: Selfishly speaking, I know he's doing it for the team

1083
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 2: and they can. I get it, but I just want

1084
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: to see him open. You know, one of the He's

1085
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: a pioneer, isn't it. He revolutionized opening batting in this

1086
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 2: century and I just want to see him go out

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00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 2: as an opener.

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00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: And I think because the Power plays only four overs,

1089
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: it's not the traditional six, I think he needs to

1090
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: be batting in those firsts for more overs for the

1091
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: tame as much as for himself. And Jack Frais mcgirk's

1092
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: got the same issue. I think at the Renegades he

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00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: kind of got to put them in where they do

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00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: the most damage. Yeah.

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00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: I think that's that's how it is, especially with the BBL.

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00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: And like you said, the format where it's just four

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00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: overs allows him that freedom as well, right, Like especially

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: someone like David Warner who isn't playing regular cricket as

1099
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: he has been for so long. I think he'll just

1100
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,959
Speaker 2: free him up a little more. But he's definitely taking

1101
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: a call for the team's sake. But yes, I hope

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00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: to see him back as opener.

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00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: I agree Cooper Connelly. Is he officially an all rounder?

1104
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'll tell you what he is.

1105
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: I know we're talking about the BBL, but I'm counting

1106
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: him as an all rounder who if Australia have to

1107
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: win in India in early twenty twenty seven, I think

1108
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: they'll need him there as an all rounder. I know

1109
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: he made his Test debut. A lot of people criticize

1110
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: the selectors for that in Sri Lanka. I think that

1111
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: was just them seeing if he has the kick as

1112
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: a LAVISHASKI would say to see if he can go

1113
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: and play that role in India, and I think he can.

1114
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: And every time you look at him, even the way

1115
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: he finished off one of the games against India, it's

1116
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: just nerveless and I would count him as an all rounder,

1117
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: and an all rounder who's going to play a lot

1118
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: of cricket for Australia.

1119
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, he's a serious player. The Hurricanes can't

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: win Baby L fifteen without Tim David.

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00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 3: That's a tough one. It's a huge loss.

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00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, yes again, without Tim David, they

1124
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 2: just he's not just an X factor player. He's like

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: an XXX factor player for them, you know.

1126
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: And he's also an insurance policy for them because if

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00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: they are going slow, you can't say that's okay, that's

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00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: okay because we've got him. David a camp Now. Matthew

1129
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: White did the job for them the other night. I

1130
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: get that, but it's more what it does to other parts,

1131
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: not just the runs that he scores.

1132
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: It is and because his t twenty game in the

1133
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 3: last twelve months or so, Whitey, I know he's a

1134
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 3: twenty gun, he has been for a while now, for

1135
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: a few years, but he just feels like he cannot

1136
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 3: bat in different positions. It was a period saying the

1137
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: IPL or those tournament even for Australia, he was like,

1138
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 3: there's this dog that give him seven balls, that's it

1139
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: and he'll turn the game around. But now he's batting

1140
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 3: at three and four for Australia as well, so to not.

1141
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: Have him in there and it's that fear factor that

1142
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: he has as well, whether when he is in the

1143
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: middle or like you said, when they hold him back

1144
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: a little.

1145
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 3: So without him, I think they'll struggle to do a repeat.

1146
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he's at for the tournament. This is the season

1147
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: for the Melbourne Stars. Now'll finally win the Big Batch Trophy.

1148
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: Wait with the Melbourne Stars, he always wait because it's

1149
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 3: that they've had this run before. I mean, it's just

1150
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 3: four games this time, but they've won right through seasons

1151
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: where they've not been beaten at all and then started

1152
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: at the end. But like I said initially, they have

1153
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: everything going for them right now in terms of personnel

1154
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: and for Maxi's sake and for Marcus Tinus's sake and

1155
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 3: Peter siddle sake, I hope they go all the way.

1156
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 3: But we wait, we wait, it's a bit too early

1157
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: today or call on them.

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00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: This news ave game at Adelaide Oval is the best

1159
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: fixture on the Baby Olt calendar. This is a half

1160
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: holey for you outside of Stump.

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm going to smash it to the boundary

1162
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: like Travis Head and say yes some big yes.

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00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you'll be there no doubt tomorrow night at

1164
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: Adelaide Oval. Okay, we're going to wrap up the show now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Brepher Brat for coming in. It's a very

1166
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: impressive debut performance, so thank you.

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00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: A bit like Posh.

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00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, and for everyone at home, don't forget if

1170
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: you haven't already plays down like the BBL the Big

1171
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: Bash app. It's got all the information, the news, scores, interviews,

1172
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: everything you need, all the color and also what you

1173
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: can get. And now I don't think you're onto this

1174
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: is the Big Bash Grid. It's a game that Aaron

1175
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: Finch is officially obsessed by. I think Jake Fraser mcgo

1176
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: might be as well. If Glenn Maxwell isn't, he will

1177
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: be when we've talked to him about it. It is

1178
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Speaker 1: a sensational game that I know a lot of players

1179
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: but also a lot of fans out there have had

1180
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: a lot of fun and waste a lot of time

1181
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: enjoying over the course of the holiday period. So that's

1182
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: it from us today. Of course, there's the BKT two

1183
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: be in competition as well, where there's still fifteen thousand

1184
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: dollars up for grabs, but when we talk next on

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Speaker 1: the Surge it'll be twenty twenty six, so enjoy the festivities,

1186
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: have a great hapy New Year, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: again soon. On the Surge