WEBVTT - The Sit-Down with Nick Kyrgios

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to the sit Down. I'm Viv Christie,

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<v Speaker 1>managing editor of Australian Tennis.

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<v Speaker 2>Magazine, and I'm Matrolope, writer for oz open dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And Viv tell us why we're sitting down with Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Carryous this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he has announced that he'll be back this Australian summer.

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<v Speaker 1>He is playing his first tour event at the Brisbane International.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nick returns after a long injury break. He spent

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<v Speaker 1>the best part of two seasons sidelined. He comes back

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<v Speaker 1>with I think new perspective and yeah, lots to add

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<v Speaker 1>to the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we discovered that when the two of us

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<v Speaker 2>sat down with Nick at pat Raft arenap for what

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being a really wide ranging chat about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things. We obviously spoke about the comeback, but

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<v Speaker 2>Nick's a great talker, great student of the game and

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<v Speaker 2>has been involved from a media perspective, so we had

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<v Speaker 2>lots to chat about with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick was so generous with his time. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>longer interview than usual for us, but while worth settling

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<v Speaker 1>in to hear what he has to say. Well, Nick, firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for joining us on the sit down. It's

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<v Speaker 1>great to see you back on court again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been I've hit a lot of tennis balls

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<v Speaker 3>in the last year and a half, but they haven't

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<v Speaker 3>been proper ones. They've been like the furry ones and

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<v Speaker 3>literally starting out with you know, under ten's balls, then

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<v Speaker 3>building it up every couple of months and finally able

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<v Speaker 3>to come out here again on a beautiful court like

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<v Speaker 3>the Brisbane Arena and officially be you know, announced a

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<v Speaker 3>players is an insane moment that I thought that I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't get back to. But yeah, I'm super excited. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>had a bit of fun today with Layton, sun Cruise

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<v Speaker 3>and Cooper and it's good to be back out there

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<v Speaker 3>amongst it. You know, there's a different energy to the

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<v Speaker 3>Aussie summer that I think that I've missed.

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<v Speaker 4>So six weeks or so out from the comeback.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the emotions as you look forward to them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean I'm a bit nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's only natural to feel that way,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's healthy. It just means I care

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<v Speaker 3>about how I'm going to perform and the pressure of

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<v Speaker 3>it's all. It's interesting because I got asked like, why

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<v Speaker 3>would I put myself back in that position? And it's

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just something that US tennis players, us

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<v Speaker 3>Ouzsy tennis players really missed the Australians. So I'm playing

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<v Speaker 3>in front of our fans that they are some of

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<v Speaker 3>the best fans in the world as well. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just super excited. I feel like I'm in the

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<v Speaker 3>best shape of my life. I've been training really hard

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'm going to continue to do that over

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<v Speaker 3>the next six to eight weeks and we'll give we'll

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<v Speaker 3>give it a crack.

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<v Speaker 1>You're returning to the scene of one of your seven

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<v Speaker 1>career titles, the only one that you won in Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the significance of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think the court in general really plays towards

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<v Speaker 3>my game style.

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<v Speaker 5>It's very fast, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Great serving conditions. It's the only thing I don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bit humid. I forgot our humor this this

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<v Speaker 3>place is. I was sweating literally in the first five minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, look, I just think it's it's amazing. You

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<v Speaker 3>look at some of the past champions here. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this tournament's always stacked with amazing talent and there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be some great players here and we've talked briefly

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<v Speaker 3>about the Australian players and how good they've been over

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<v Speaker 3>the last you know year or two, that some of

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<v Speaker 3>them having.

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<v Speaker 5>Career best years, career best titles.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's an exciting time for men's tennis in Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it like hitting with Cruise, hit with Late It's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Not it's not weird, it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>But I definitely give him, you know, some stick for it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I, you know, I like trash talking a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>but no, it's it's cool. And as I said, I

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<v Speaker 3>had a conversation with Layton yesterday about potentially returning to

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<v Speaker 3>the Davis Cup line up. So just having these conversations

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<v Speaker 3>again and being a part of it, hitting with these

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<v Speaker 3>guys and just playing, you know, competing with them is

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<v Speaker 3>something that I just I genuinely thought it wasn't going

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<v Speaker 3>to be possible again.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it's it's a bit strange.

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<v Speaker 3>Like me obviously playing and I've competed against his dad

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<v Speaker 3>a lot and now committing against him.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very full circle. Yes, what if you missed

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<v Speaker 2>most in your time away from tennis? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>it's the competitiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I missed, I missed. I mean I did compete

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<v Speaker 3>a lot off the court. I mean it can be anything,

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<v Speaker 3>can be a computer game, video game, anything like a

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<v Speaker 3>board game.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll compete a little bit too hard.

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<v Speaker 3>But I guess it's just actually the sport of and

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<v Speaker 3>I think winning, Like when you win a tennis match,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that the routine, actually the routine of winning

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<v Speaker 3>a tennis match, getting physio, gone back to the hotel,

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<v Speaker 3>and enjoying that win with your team. I think that's

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<v Speaker 3>what our team into the other than twenty two. We

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<v Speaker 3>were experiencing that so much. It just became part of

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<v Speaker 3>our culture of you know, going to the courts, getting

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<v Speaker 3>it done and enjoying those wins together. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I missed most, was doing it with my

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<v Speaker 3>team and having success together.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's what I missed most.

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<v Speaker 2>We were also going to ask you if there was

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<v Speaker 2>a specific moment, because you were after you've been out

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<v Speaker 2>for two years, effectively, if there was a moment where

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<v Speaker 2>you felt the burning desire properly to return again, and

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<v Speaker 2>was it that conversation with Novak at Wimbledon, or was

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<v Speaker 2>there another time where you watch something happened, You're like, God,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be out there again.

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely went through a lot of dips, like energy lows,

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<v Speaker 3>highs and lows throughout the last eighteen months. There were

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<v Speaker 3>times where I was super motivated to like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to start the rehab. I want to sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to you know, I want to get going.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be better. And then there was times

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<v Speaker 3>where I was like I don't want to play anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is too hard. Like I was having

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<v Speaker 3>pain in my hand, my wrists, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not going to get better, Like I didn't want.

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<v Speaker 5>To do the work required. And I guess I had

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<v Speaker 5>a really good team around me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I went to Wimbledon and I tried to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, announce it on Twitter that i'd be hitting

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<v Speaker 3>with some of the players there, and Novak was hit

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<v Speaker 3>with him for three days and that's when I actually

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<v Speaker 3>realized that, you know, I was only starting to serve then.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he was like, it doesn't look like you've

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<v Speaker 3>had surgery. You're moving really well, you're playing really well.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when I looked at my team. I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we're on the right track, maybe we can return,

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<v Speaker 3>And six months later here we are.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's been a That was probably.

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<v Speaker 3>The turning moment when when Novak said that, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing something right here, and we're you know, gearing

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<v Speaker 3>for a return.

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<v Speaker 5>At some stage.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds like Novak was one of the players that really

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<v Speaker 1>supported you in the comeback.

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<v Speaker 4>With there any other players that really reached out.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think whether a player wants me to come

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<v Speaker 3>back or not, that's one thing, But whether the sport

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<v Speaker 3>needs it, I think it's another. I don't think there'd

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<v Speaker 3>be too many happy faces seeing me back on to it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had a lot of friends, but I

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<v Speaker 3>also had a lot of people that didn't get along with,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is completely normal in sport, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think the tennis world needs a bit more of that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean, look, there's been a plenty of supporters.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the American players I'm all pretty close with,

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<v Speaker 3>and they gave me a lot of support as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think people that I've drawn in spray from

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<v Speaker 3>probably like Dominic Team, someone like that who went through

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<v Speaker 3>a major surgery and his one actually wasn't even as

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<v Speaker 3>severe as mine, and to see him just get back

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<v Speaker 3>to a challenger level and play some Grand Slams was

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<v Speaker 3>a bonus where I want to get back there and

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<v Speaker 3>win some you know, some big matches. So I've really

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<v Speaker 3>drawn and obviously we know the severity of people that

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<v Speaker 3>have had risk injuries before Del Potro team like these

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<v Speaker 3>guys haven't got back to where they were, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that's a fair for me.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see how my level is when I get back,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know if it's a fair I guess

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<v Speaker 3>goal to have in mind to get back to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>making a Grand Slam final after such as severe injury.

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<v Speaker 5>But we'll see. But I think there've been some supportive

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<v Speaker 5>tennis players.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, it's obviously been as particularly the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of the injury being so rough, it's hard to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>see a positive in the time away and the challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>But have there been any silver linings?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean, look, spending time with my family,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my partner and just you know, my brother

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<v Speaker 3>has two kids. Now, you know, I think as an

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<v Speaker 3>Australian tennis player, you travel so much of the year

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, all these tennis guys will tell you

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<v Speaker 3>you miss I think, significant moments with your and your

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<v Speaker 3>best friends and your people that you would ideally want

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<v Speaker 3>to spend all the time with you don't get to

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<v Speaker 3>see them at all. So I think the positive of

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<v Speaker 3>being injured was I was able to catch up on

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<v Speaker 3>so many other things off the court as well that

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<v Speaker 3>needed my attention. You know, obviously a lot of business

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<v Speaker 3>ideas that I had, you know, I started, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I was very proactive in my time away and just

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<v Speaker 3>spend time with my loved ones and the people that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I'd missed out so much time, Like what

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<v Speaker 3>from literally fifteen to twenty five, I felt like I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even spend time with my family because I was

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<v Speaker 3>always traveling for tennis. So now I definitely felt like

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<v Speaker 3>I caught that time up.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel Also, younger people talk about having like

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<v Speaker 2>long periods of time actually refreshing them because you're not

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<v Speaker 2>pounding your body, you're not traveling is not yet Like

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<v Speaker 2>so you know you're twenty nine, but are you physically

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine? Do you know what I mean? You say

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<v Speaker 2>it on the court before that you were like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>old now, but it's like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of I actually feel as if I'm like seventy.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Had so many experiences and you know, I've dealt with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things in my life, and I've you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, being in the spotlight at eighteen and going

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<v Speaker 3>through the experience of I feel like I've gone through

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<v Speaker 3>a lot for a person, and I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>feel a lot older than twenty nine, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And people will assume I'm a lot older because I

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<v Speaker 3>was on tour at seventeen, But yeah, I definitely, honest like, mentally,

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel a bit, I guess new to the

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<v Speaker 3>tour again, where you know, just like going into the

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<v Speaker 3>locker room and like just before having a shower, just

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<v Speaker 3>feeling that again and doing those things kind of feels

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit new, which is good because there was

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<v Speaker 3>parts where I was like, oh, here we got another

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<v Speaker 3>tennis center and another this and all that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know what you mean, But I definitely I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if physically I feel younger.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to ask when you do come back,

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<v Speaker 2>who are you most looking forward to playing?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I've got a couple of answers there.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, But look that I think the tennis world right

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<v Speaker 3>now is in a it's definitely the changing of the guard.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we will understand that Rafa and Fed's not

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<v Speaker 3>being there anymore. And I think this is you could

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<v Speaker 3>comfortably say it's the back end of Novak's career. Now

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's open, but you know you've got the

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<v Speaker 3>lights of you know, Olcaaz whole garoon. You're Onix Sinner

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<v Speaker 3>like these guys that are, you know, vying for that

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<v Speaker 3>next kind of mantle. But I would love to play

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<v Speaker 3>obviously center at some stage, hopefully not my first match back,

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<v Speaker 3>but I doubt did pay Brisbane. But you know, look,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's probably that would be circled on my calendar

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<v Speaker 3>for sure. And I don't know, it's always fun playing

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<v Speaker 3>tizzy paths. I think we all I think that's a

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<v Speaker 3>very healthy one for the tennis world.

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<v Speaker 5>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you you came so close to winning a Grand

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<v Speaker 1>Slam title at Wimwooden.

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<v Speaker 4>Is how much of a motivation is it to go

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<v Speaker 4>one better than that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's probably one of the only things keep

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<v Speaker 3>me around in the sport. I mean, obviously, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a lot more tennis to play for my fans,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think a Grand Slam is the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of missing. I think in Australian tennis in general,

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<v Speaker 3>you know we've got you know, Lexi Poper winning a Master's.

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<v Speaker 5>Event, you know, Demon's vying for titles.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think that at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>that all means nothing if you don't finish. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the only thing that people really care about in

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<v Speaker 3>tennis career is how many Grand Slams you have. And

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<v Speaker 3>did I think that the doubles Grand Slam was going

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<v Speaker 3>to calm it down, to be honest, and No, I

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<v Speaker 3>knew that the critics always going to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I doesn't have a single one still after I want

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<v Speaker 3>to double one. And I agree with him, like I

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<v Speaker 3>am a singles player and I've put in so much

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<v Speaker 3>work to be a good singles player, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>two sets away, a set and a half away from winning.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a tennis event that makes you tennis immortality.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's definitely a driver. I mean, I hear it

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<v Speaker 3>every day that he hasn'tont to go slam, Like the

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<v Speaker 3>amount of times I've heard that it's going to drive

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<v Speaker 3>me insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people haven't though, Oh I know, but like.

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<v Speaker 3>They say that, oh, he's one of the most talented

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<v Speaker 3>players like this, so that that there's I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot that comes with that, which is it's good

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<v Speaker 3>in a way, but it's also a curse because people

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<v Speaker 3>want you to win so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Your first Grand Slam back will be your home Grand Slam.

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<v Speaker 1>How special is it to play at the Astraine Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been extremely tough missing that event the last

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<v Speaker 3>two years, not because I'm sitting there, you know, watching

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<v Speaker 3>other people play. You know, I love watching other Ossies

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<v Speaker 3>play at this Train Open. I love the stories created,

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<v Speaker 3>I love the opportunities that they have and it can

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<v Speaker 3>change careers it honestly. Can you make a run of

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<v Speaker 3>the Austrain Open and we see, you know, all these

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<v Speaker 3>young Aussies have good runs and then you know it kicks.

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<v Speaker 5>Off their career.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, it's just there's a different feeling playing

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia. And you know, I played my first I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I played Australi Open Juniors when I was fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>years old and it just seemed like that time of

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<v Speaker 3>the year was always special for Ozsi's you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was Aussie summer even this time you're all hanging out together,

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<v Speaker 3>training together. You can feel the energy kind of heating

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit, and I can't wait to get

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<v Speaker 3>out there and just feel you know, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 3>to soak up every little moment because it could be

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<v Speaker 3>my last one and I'm not going to take a

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<v Speaker 3>granted even if I win, not lose, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy the stadium. I'm going to enjoy all the tough moments,

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<v Speaker 3>the adversity moments, and just enjoy it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite moment from your Australian Open

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<v Speaker 1>so far?

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<v Speaker 5>I think, oh, that's a tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously, yeah, I mean it's been it's been amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think obviously the doubles has got to be up there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I never thought I'd be in the doubles again,

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<v Speaker 3>stand literally never I thought the singles, what one would come?

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<v Speaker 3>That's maybe at some stage if not, but I'd never

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<v Speaker 3>thought I'd get close to any of those one and

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<v Speaker 3>it just happened. I think the CATCHONOV match in the

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<v Speaker 3>third round of the show and Open, when it was

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<v Speaker 3>like a four hour and fifty out, four hours and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty minute grind and it was it was probably one

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<v Speaker 3>of the most insane energy I've ever been a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>The crowd was absolutely going insane and it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was special.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that was on John Canaen. Yes, obviously, that's such

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<v Speaker 2>a big part of your story. That court. You've almost

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made it your own. We actually did some

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<v Speaker 2>research into your Do you know your record on that court?

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you guess how many matches you played and won

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<v Speaker 2>on it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd be close to probably fifteen, I reckon, Yeah, fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>and fifteen, maybe twelve and three or something, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>What your record is.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. So that was what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you. So, yeah, won twelve, lost three, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's an eighty percent record. So what is it about

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<v Speaker 2>that court that brings out your best because it is

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<v Speaker 2>by far your best record at the AO of all

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<v Speaker 2>the court. In fact, you played on it so much

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<v Speaker 2>more than all the es, but you pretty much never

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<v Speaker 2>lose on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just I don't know, it's just something

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<v Speaker 3>about the speed the court just feels amazing. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I just love the dimensions of even though every single

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<v Speaker 3>court in the same dimensions, just the backdrop, but everything

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<v Speaker 3>or about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I like how the crowd's really close. I'm not too sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I really want to put a petition in when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>done to call it the Curios instead of John. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>I genuinely think if we called it the Curios Court,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be it would be a lot more, it

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<v Speaker 3>would be a lot cooler, and I think people would

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<v Speaker 3>be like it would create a bit more buzz or

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<v Speaker 3>you playing on the Hero's Court like, because then it's

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<v Speaker 3>like known for being a bit of a chaotic zoo

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<v Speaker 3>like you know atmosphere, I think, and then people will

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<v Speaker 3>think about some of the best times I had on

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<v Speaker 3>it and just how chaotic the crowd was going like

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<v Speaker 3>it sometimes I was like, this place is ridiculously loud

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a bit of like a zoo out there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, Yeah, I mean, I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 3>is about that court, but I don't know. Hopefully I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be able to play on it again this year, and

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<v Speaker 3>if not, you know, I'm happy to.

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<v Speaker 5>Play on Rod.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it actually like, are the crowd different compared

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<v Speaker 2>to say Rod Labor Because you've had some pretty wild

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<v Speaker 2>matches on Keya in the doubles run, and you've played

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<v Speaker 2>on MCA as well. But there's something maybe a bit

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<v Speaker 2>specific about JCA. Is it the ground passes, it's coming

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<v Speaker 2>right down to the court.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I do like the fact that it's very

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<v Speaker 3>accessible for the fans. The fans are right there. They

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<v Speaker 3>haven't on like ongoing conversations with me. I think they've

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<v Speaker 3>realized that I really feed off it, and they're obviously

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<v Speaker 3>a bit boozy around that time as well, like five vmish.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's the hour on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I don't know, it's just something about that court.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the crowd of rod Labor a bit

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<v Speaker 3>more tame, and you know, they're a bit more I

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<v Speaker 3>guess classy, But I don't think I fit into that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of description.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think I'd love to play on John Cane again.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. Where will the I guess we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>where you're scheduled when you come back.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look back on your career as a whole,

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<v Speaker 1>what what are you most proud of?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think how much I've kind of, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>changed and matured over the course of my career. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I'm very much still a child. I'm very much

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<v Speaker 3>still youthful, and I love to have fun. But I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I think I was earlier in my career.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't really, I don't know. I just I think

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoy it now because I know that the window

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<v Speaker 3>that I've had as an athlete and the success I've

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<v Speaker 3>had is not normal and it's very like, I'm very

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<v Speaker 3>lucky to have had that success, but also I worked

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<v Speaker 3>very hard. But not many athletes are able to say

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<v Speaker 3>that they've you know, going to the top of their

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<v Speaker 3>sport and really knocked on the door of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>getting to the ultimate prize. And I think this injuries

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<v Speaker 3>made me realize that, you know, I've got to be

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<v Speaker 3>grateful for it, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 5>Be so I can't be so selfish, I guess. And

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<v Speaker 5>when I come back to.

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<v Speaker 3>I want instant titles, I want Grand Slams Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>not that's not how the sport works. Sometimes it's my

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<v Speaker 3>day and sometimes it's not. And I think I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>really proud.

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<v Speaker 5>Of I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never be saying that at the start of

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<v Speaker 3>my career. I'd be you know, really like probably too

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<v Speaker 3>confident or too arrogant to you know, say that, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I want more and want more all the time, which

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<v Speaker 3>is not bad, but I think now it's like I've

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<v Speaker 3>done the work to get back and everything now is

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<v Speaker 3>a bonus. And you know there's a younger generation coming

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<v Speaker 3>in now and the banging over there is.

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<v Speaker 5>Insane, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Always it's Yeah, I just think that I'm really proud

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<v Speaker 3>of how much I've kind of matured. Tennis is I

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<v Speaker 3>think makes you mature as a person. You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>do everything alone, you travel alone. It does mature you

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<v Speaker 3>very quickly, obviously more often not maybe not me as

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<v Speaker 3>quick as others, but finally to that point where I

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<v Speaker 3>think I've matured a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the flip side, it's obviously a long career.

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<v Speaker 1>You are there any periods where you look back at

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<v Speaker 1>any matches or times in your career saying I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could do that again.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I regret moments in my career, to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest, I think every little moment happened for a

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<v Speaker 3>specific reason. I think I kind of look at it

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<v Speaker 3>as like a building block. You take one moment out,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the structure kind of falls down.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not saying I had great moments.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had some absolute diabolical moments on the court, meltdowns, tantrums, fines.

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't condone it for the future generations.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I think that I'm man

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<v Speaker 3>enough now to say that, you know, they weren't like.

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<v Speaker 5>Would I do it again?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, but they're not the right That wasn't the right

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<v Speaker 3>way to conduct myself.

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<v Speaker 5>But I did have fun. I think at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think at the end of my career,

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<v Speaker 3>I did I did it my way and I had fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's the message that I think from my career.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you can be authentic, you can be yourself

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<v Speaker 3>and you can still kind of find navigate yourself your

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<v Speaker 3>own way, your own way. They don't need like there's

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<v Speaker 3>not one specific path to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, ahead of this interview, I did pull out something

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<v Speaker 1>which was your first Australiant tennis magazine.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The funny thing is I do remember this because my

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<v Speaker 3>mum has this frame in my house in camera outside

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<v Speaker 3>my room, so I see this all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think you stand? Do you recognize that, Nick?

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<v Speaker 5>I do recognize it.

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<v Speaker 3>I recognize a kid that had no idea what he

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<v Speaker 3>was stepping into. Honestly, like I was just I was

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<v Speaker 3>still at the Melbourne Academy when you know, we were there,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was living in Melbourne at the time with

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<v Speaker 3>the Guccioni family, and I was just a young kid,

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<v Speaker 3>just probably still in school at that time, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no idea what what the roller coaster was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be like.

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<v Speaker 5>To be honest, is.

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<v Speaker 4>There any advice you would give to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nick that Nick is a that's AO twenty fourteen, Nick

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<v Speaker 2>before that photo.

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<v Speaker 5>Is I would probably just say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd probably say not to take criticism too hard. At

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<v Speaker 3>that time, I think I was a very I was

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<v Speaker 3>an emotional kid, and I was very like I was

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<v Speaker 3>a sensory person, like I took comments very personally. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would tell myself maybe not to take the criticism

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<v Speaker 3>too hard because it really it really affected me. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'd probably say, just continue to be that showman that

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<v Speaker 3>you have inside you. But there was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize that it was going to be such

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<v Speaker 3>a I didn't realize I was going to send such

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<v Speaker 3>shock waves I guess through the tennis world, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>And I was eighteen. I had no idea that I

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<v Speaker 3>was able to do that I was a kid from

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<v Speaker 3>Canberra still in school, like, and I was going to

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<v Speaker 3>send shockwaves through the global tennis world. So I'd say,

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<v Speaker 3>just don't take criticism too hard.

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<v Speaker 4>From that perspective that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, what life lessons do you think he can take

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<v Speaker 1>from tennis?

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you have to be an amazing problem solver

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<v Speaker 3>on the tennis court. You're always adapting as well. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the one sport where it's played all around the world,

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<v Speaker 3>different time zones, different diet, different cultures. You're always uncertain.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know what time exactly going to play, and

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you never know. You could play for an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and a half, play for five hours at a Grand Slam.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many variables in tennis where no other sport

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<v Speaker 3>can can understand that, Like what other sport has so

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<v Speaker 3>many question marks of your performance. So I think the

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<v Speaker 3>problem solving and you realize that nothing's perfect in love too,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the greatest of all time have only won over

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<v Speaker 3>just over half the points they've ever played. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>rogers et a one fifty four percent of points, so

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<v Speaker 3>he's losing like pretty much every.

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<v Speaker 5>Second point he's playing.

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<v Speaker 3>So like the ability to pick yourself up after having

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<v Speaker 3>a bad day or you know, you could have a

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<v Speaker 3>bad relationship and anything, you've got to understand it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you got to pick yourself back up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think tennis is a very good teacher that

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<v Speaker 3>because you can't win, you're not winning every week, you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're losing, pick yourself back up, go again. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be a fast learner and a good loser.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed today when you were hitting with cruise, you

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<v Speaker 1>were giving lots of advice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, would you obvious see it yourself as a coach possibly.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and Jordan Thompson always joked about like me and

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<v Speaker 3>him would would take like kids away on a tour

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<v Speaker 3>and we would be the coaches.

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<v Speaker 5>That'd be a fun tour.

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<v Speaker 3>I would probably do it, like at some stage, I

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<v Speaker 3>think I do enjoy I actually do enjoy watching. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously from a commentating standpoint, I enjoy watching and enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not a very critical commentator.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like when commentators, you know, beat down or.

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<v Speaker 3>Too critical because it's not easy out there and in

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<v Speaker 3>this today's day and age, game is so physical. But

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<v Speaker 3>I could see myself one day maybe you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy giving people you know, advice or tactical advice and

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<v Speaker 3>then seeing them trying to execute that. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>could see myself one day doing that. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's a bit of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been an amazing year in Australian and as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned earlier, have you and we're heading into the

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<v Speaker 1>Davis Cart Finals, which Australia would.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a part of. Have you missed being a part

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<v Speaker 4>of all that?

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<v Speaker 5>Definitely? I love the team environment. I love being a

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<v Speaker 5>part of that team.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're so of my That's some of my

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<v Speaker 3>closest friends, you know, Thanasi Jordan Thompson. I'm so happy

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<v Speaker 3>for Jordan to see how how well he's gone top

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<v Speaker 3>thirty in the world, and we literally grew up and

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<v Speaker 3>played the exact same tournaments together from eight years old.

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<v Speaker 3>We played each other at Wimbledon and to see him

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<v Speaker 3>having success is so cool. So I do miss it.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, these guys are all capable,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think, you know, I was kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>first one, I guess knock on the door and show

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<v Speaker 3>that it was possible, and then these guys started believing,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, now they're all having some amazing success.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexi's getting you know, coming out of his shell and

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<v Speaker 3>he's understanding what he needs to do at the highest

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<v Speaker 3>level to execute, and it's they're more than cable to

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<v Speaker 3>win it, you know, without me.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>And and the fact that I even had a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with late and yesterday that he thinks that I'm able

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<v Speaker 3>to still add value was a positive for me.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I missed the team environments.

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<v Speaker 3>I love them, you know, I love I do miss

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<v Speaker 3>the home and away aspect of Davis Cup. I will

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<v Speaker 3>say that was the most special thing ever, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember we played a tie out here against USA

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<v Speaker 3>and it was some of the coolest atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, so yeah, I mean I do miss being out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You've alluded a couple of times today about like the

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<v Speaker 2>business side of tennis in the entertainment. We really like

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<v Speaker 2>tennis players that are cognizant of the business side because

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<v Speaker 2>it's more than just hitting balls. Yes, if you had

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity to do this, if there's one thing you

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<v Speaker 2>could immediately or quickly change that you think could help tennis, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what would that be?

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<v Speaker 3>I would make Grand Slams the best of three up

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<v Speaker 3>until the quarterfinals. I think it would save us a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of effort on scheduling. You know, the first week's

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<v Speaker 3>scheduling gets out of control. I think with both the

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<v Speaker 3>men's side and the women's side playing best of five,

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<v Speaker 3>and sometimes the women's matches go long best at three,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, men's matches aren't finishing till like two three am,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just not sustainable, I don't think.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think if you made it best to three

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<v Speaker 5>of them to the quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>Finals, you'd see some guys breakthrough to the quarterfinals, but

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<v Speaker 3>then obviously the better players would end up winning obviously

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<v Speaker 3>best of five anyway, So I think the best of

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<v Speaker 3>three them to the quarter finals and then from then

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<v Speaker 3>on its best to five. That's what I would immediately

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<v Speaker 3>change to Grand Slam. It would save a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>stress of scheduling, and it would make it more The

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<v Speaker 3>first couple of weeks would be more exciting because some

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<v Speaker 3>of these top players as well, they lose a first

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<v Speaker 3>set in the earlier rounds and they're right away back

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<v Speaker 3>against the wall. How many times have we seen one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best players in the drawer lose a first

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<v Speaker 3>set and you're just like he's going to come back

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<v Speaker 3>and ruin anyway, Like it's it's actually boring, where like

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<v Speaker 3>if Novak goes down a set, or even when Lee too,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he won to set against Alcaas early on,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one set all, and then it's one set that

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<v Speaker 3>could change Lee's entire career. He beat Alkaaz at the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate Quarter, You've completely you become a name, So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that would be a cool thing to change.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you've got any other have you got anything?

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<v Speaker 3>I would I would have players miked up as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you like officially sanctioned on Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think like if you watch the NBA, they give

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<v Speaker 3>their like obviously the uniform or the kit you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to wear, they professionally put like a mic inside the

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<v Speaker 3>shirt around the collar so you can I can't feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think not doing that is being absurd

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<v Speaker 3>for me, Like why would you not have like Novak

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<v Speaker 3>or our Karaz or them miked up to hear what

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<v Speaker 3>they're saying, or even even before the points, like you

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<v Speaker 3>see some of these amazing athletes. I do it myself

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes before every point their self, talking to themselves like

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<v Speaker 3>why would you not have the content that you could

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<v Speaker 3>create from that already would have tennis fans glued to

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<v Speaker 3>their phone.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I've got heaps, but that's that's another one

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<v Speaker 5>I would do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think from a like a fans standpoint, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would do mixed doubles at masters events. Oh wow, because

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<v Speaker 3>what other sport can you get your favorite female athlete

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<v Speaker 3>and your favorite male athlete competing on the same side

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<v Speaker 3>of the net for like good prize money. It's not possible,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you don't see any other sport really, So I

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<v Speaker 3>think Master's events should instead of men's doubles womens just

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<v Speaker 3>mixed mixed.

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<v Speaker 4>So would you would you play? Who would you love

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<v Speaker 4>to play?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's plenty of good players I'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>play with, past them present. I mean, look, if I play,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had the I've had the honor of playing with

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<v Speaker 3>Serena and Venus.

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<v Speaker 5>I would have liked to play well.

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<v Speaker 2>Not many people can say that I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have loved to have played with ash Party at some stage.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she I think was by far one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most talented female players to ever play the game.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we would have done some damage.

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<v Speaker 4>On the court for absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess the media your role moving into the

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<v Speaker 2>media is a form of the business side because it's promotion.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your favorite interview that you've ever done apart from

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<v Speaker 2>this one obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this one's been great so far. I really like

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<v Speaker 3>doing pregame interviews. I did a bit of that at

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<v Speaker 3>the US Open. I feel like walking on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, you know, just as.

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<v Speaker 3>You're interviewing some of these players before they're going on,

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<v Speaker 3>you can really feel their energy.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously postmatch everyone's kind of relieved or you know, whatever

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 3>emotions they feel. But it's not as you could cut

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 3>the tension with a knife, you know. I did Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Fritz and franc Tiafa at the US Open, and I

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<v Speaker 3>could feel the nervous energy off them when I was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, right next to them, and I was almost

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<v Speaker 3>a bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Nervous because I could.

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<v Speaker 3>I could, I could, I just know being in that position.

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<v Speaker 3>They struggled to sleep that the night before all they

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<v Speaker 3>could think about was the media, you know, saying, who's

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 3>going to like? It was so good? And I knew

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<v Speaker 3>that I had the power to get a cheeky little

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<v Speaker 3>answer out of both of them. But I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>commentating and this side of things in the tennis world

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<v Speaker 3>is so underrated because when someone turned on TV.

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<v Speaker 5>They might not know.

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<v Speaker 3>Like we're not talking about the fans that have followed

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 3>the sport for twenty years. We're talking about new fans

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 3>bringing them to the game. They're not going to know

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<v Speaker 3>anything about these players. So the commentating needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>up to like. It needs to be up to date,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess in a way, And it needs to be

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of how the generation is now. They can't

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 3>concentrate for more than a couple of minutes, so it

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<v Speaker 3>needs to be like loud. It needs to be energetic

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<v Speaker 3>for a twenty second thirty second. Then that might get it,

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<v Speaker 3>that might grab a new fan. So I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to grow this mort as much as I can. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess on both sides of the spectrum. But it hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been easy.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me tell you no.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you've obviously, though enjoy as you said, like you

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.719
<v Speaker 2>want to stay in there. You really enjoy it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're obviously good at it. What's something like has it

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<v Speaker 2>given you a new appreciation of how the media operates?

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<v Speaker 2>Or has it given you like a way of looking

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<v Speaker 2>at tent I remember it might have been storm storm

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Sanders when she told us when she moved into coaching,

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.439
<v Speaker 2>she said, it completely revolutionized the way she approached her

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 2>own game because she was viewing it from a different way,

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 2>and so she became really tactically aware. And so is

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>it similar with commentary. You're viewing the game differently, So

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>do you take that into your own tennis a little bit?

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:37.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I haven't had a coach for now, like

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 3>seven years, so I already feel as if I tactically

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 3>am very switched on about my game, and I do

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 3>I study film, and I watch other players, and I

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 3>know every other players strength and weakness back to front.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 5>It's more so just I just love having fun with it.

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like I've only watched and played tennis

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>for twenty years. Like it's really easy to get in

0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 3>there and just be funny and drop it, you know,

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 3>some knowledge and some fans if someone's doing a specific thing.

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 5>I just I really enjoy it. And I think tennis

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 5>commentating right now needs a bit of needs a bit

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 5>of a shakeup.

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I think was there anything that surprised you about being

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:11.959
<v Speaker 1>a commentator?

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 5>How mean some of the commentators are.

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, like I guess when you've really played

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 3>and you understand like the futures and the challenges like

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 3>how many players there are on a global scale, and

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 3>how heart it is to actually make it into the

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 3>top one hundred and twenty eight players to make a

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Grand Slam. I don't like I sometimes I don't like

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 3>how much you know, I mean not to mention names,

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>but someone like Johnny Mack, like he'll just say like, oh,

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 3>this guy, like who is this guy's like this guy's

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 3>like top one hundred and twenty in the world, Like

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 3>he deserves completely deserves to be there.

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 5>He might have battled through three.

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Rounds are qualifying and that as our job as commentator

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>is to study these players and know their journey and

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 3>hopefully get their name out there. We can't just continually

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 3>promote the same players over and over again. You know,

0:28:58.240 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>there are some good players out there that no one,

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 3>no one knows, So that's my I take that into

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 3>account when I like commentating, I like to really get

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 3>it out there.

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, there's actually quite a few young

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>ones that are coming through, like new voices in the sport.

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>It's been really it's freshened. It's helped freshen it out,

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>but it can keep going that way.

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 3>It needs to go that way, because I mean you

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.160
<v Speaker 3>look at for the last twenty years, the sport's only

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 3>really promoted four or five players, and then they go

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 3>and then it's like, then what happens to the sponsors?

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 3>And then people lose interest and so the sport essentially

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 3>will lose money.

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. Did I have another question out think? Oh? Yeah,

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 2>So in your commentary, who have you most enjoyed watching?

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh, that's a good one. I really liked.

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed doing Demona and Thompson at the US Open.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 3>That was a fun one, obviously, because you know, I'm

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 3>close with both of them.

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 5>But I think I've watched it. I've done a lot

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 5>of Novak.

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Matches and he frustrates the hell out of me because

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I hate doing his matches early on in Slams because

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>he just he just plays around with his food for

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.080
<v Speaker 3>like four hours, and I'm like, you could have I

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 3>could have been in my hotel an hour and a

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 3>half ago, and he'll be up to that's the love,

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and then he'll lose the third and he'll start complaining

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 3>and then he'll go to his box and then he'll

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>be a seven six in the fourth and I'm like, dude,

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 3>and I'll see him.

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, do you just enjoy keeping me because he

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 5>knows that I'm in there?

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, and then he starts like losing focus and

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 3>then I'm like, like, he frustrates the hell out of me.

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 3>I hate doing no vas matches, but I've done a

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>lot of outcras as well, and I think that's probably

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 3>probably one of my favorite to watch because he's so

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 3>exciting and he always has something up his sleeve that

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I think this tennis world hasn't seen.

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 5>He's going to keep evolving.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>You haven't played him yet, have you not yet? I

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 2>think he's the only one in the top ten.

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yep, yeah, well that could be fun. Yeah, that'd

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 5>be fun.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I guess my my last one on this

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>side of things is in the So you've been out, Yeah,

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you've played one match since October twenty twenty two. The

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>sport has evolved a bit since then. What have you

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 2>made of how it's progressed and maybe some of the

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>new players that have come along in your absence? Like,

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>what are you coming back to?

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I think yeah, the sports kind of I think the

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 3>courts have kind of slowed down everywhere, so I think

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 3>you see more more of the know all rounder type

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:05.720
<v Speaker 3>of game style. Now you don't see his serve dominant

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 3>players anymore. I mean there's a couple in the top ten,

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, Taylor Fritz, you know Huby Hircash was in

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the top ten for for a while there, and those

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 3>were the really the two guys that only were in

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 3>sort of the stat wise of serve bots, you know,

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 3>those players that were just serve dominant. But you look

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 3>at everyone in the top ten. Now everyone's in a

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>great mover. You know, you've got outcras in a whole

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 3>garooon like Demona, Like, these guys move insane, and so

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 3>guys like me that are six four six five, I

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>think we kind of have to, you know, keep adapting

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 3>our game and figure out how we're going to beat

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 3>these kind.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Of small guys that move like Gazelle's out there.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 3>So I think the sport as kind of like it's

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 3>it's favoring these guys that are more all rounded type

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 3>of players that have really no weakness, the incredible returners,

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>and that you know, you look at someone like Sinner,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 3>he's moving and range and hitting absolutely he's knocking the

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 3>ball as hard as he can and you just wouldn't.

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 3>All these courts are kind of playing all the same

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 3>speeds now, where at Wimbledon you could kind of negate that,

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, by serving big and you know, taking cuts

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>out of it. But you can't really do that anymore so

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 3>and the game is a bit Yeah, it's it's different

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 3>now for sure.

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 2>So are you preparing with your comeback? Are you preparing

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>for it with that in mind?

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>I think I have to, you know, I think, you know,

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to beat some of these guys now

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>by trying to outrally them.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:17.680
<v Speaker 5>That's just not possible.

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I think Mevdev was the first one that changed that,

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 3>playing five meters behind the baseline. Then these other guys

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 3>started coming through, and you just have to have variation.

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Someone like me has to have to have variation, you know,

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 3>keep them guessing, you know, two big first serves, you know,

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 3>trying to take some risk because you're not going to

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>beat these guys playing their type of game style, which

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 3>is rallying and then trying to aray them.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 5>It's not possible.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Is a really famous quote intenans that pressure is a

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>privileged bliging king quote.

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 4>What does that mean to you?

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>I think not everyone can deal with, you know, especially

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>you see that quote as you walk out to Arthur

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>ash Stadium and when you really walk out there on

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 3>a night session and the whole you know, the stadium

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 3>is completely packed and there's a constant buzz because it's

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>so loud in there, and you're getting balls as you're

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 3>about to serve and you look up and it's like

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 3>a wall of people just glaring down at you. I

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 3>think that's when you realize that not everyone's cut out

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 3>for you know, and people don't want to be in

0:33:17.400 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 3>that position. I think when you realize that you're under

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>that much pressure and you have anxiety, and you realize

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>that you've got you know, eyes at you and you've

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 3>got to hit a tennis ball on the line, that's

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 3>when you realize that, yeah, you are a special type

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>of person and you've you've worked to put yourself in

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 3>a position, but not everyone's capable of dealing with it

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 3>and executing under pressure. So, you know, I had the

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 3>luxury of playing on that court so many times, and

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 3>it's it's it's it is it's daunting sometimes, you know,

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 3>and you've got five people in your box that look

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 3>at you and they understand how you are as a

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:50.719
<v Speaker 3>person off the court, and then all of a sudden

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 3>you're this this I guess, another person in the middle

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 3>of this arena that's full staring at you. It's it's

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 3>strange because then I get off the court and I'm like, yeah,

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 3>you just snick again. So it's like a very interesting

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 3>dynamic of if you want to be that person, because

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 3>it's hard. It's hard to be in that I guess

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>a pressure cook all the time.

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't help noticing your cap with the word Azilien.

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:12.919
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 4>What quality do you think has served you most in

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 4>your carisofa.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I have been very resilient, I think, you know, there

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 3>have been times where I didn't want to be a

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 3>part of the tennis world anymore.

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 5>I was really struggling with mental health. I was struggling

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 5>with so.

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Many different things, and I just kept kind of, I guess,

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 3>trying to just keep moving forward.

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I think I strongly believe that you never stay still.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 3>You either you know, move slightly in the right direction

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 3>or you move slightly backwards. So I think I've just

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>been extremely resilient. Honestly, I just I'm really proud to

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 3>be here again at the Aussie summer and just being

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 3>able to compete, and I think I'm carrying myself in

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:53.959
<v Speaker 3>the right way.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I probably say Resilien's probably one of them.

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and just to finish up as you look ahead

0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 1>to the Ausy summer and you'll come back overall, what's

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 1>the Is there a focus or a particular goal that

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 1>you're striving for.

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean I don't.

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to enter the tournament just to just

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 3>to play again. You know, I do want to win.

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 3>That's ultimately my goal. I'm not going to sit here

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 3>and say I'm the favorite, absolutely not, but I do

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 3>believe that I'm able to, you know, walk. I want

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>to walk away from the Aussie summer with some great memories.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:26.720
<v Speaker 5>And that doesn't mean winning a tournament.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 3>That means maybe, you know, competing against one of the

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 3>best in the world and I might come up short,

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 3>but I realize that, wow, my level is still there

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 3>after everything that I've gone through. That's success and I

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 3>want to do it. And I want to carry myself

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 3>in the right way. You know, if I lose a match,

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I want to look at the opponent of the ice

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 3>too good. I want to be able to just walk

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 3>away from the other summer and feel good about my

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 3>performance and the amount of work I put in and give.

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 5>Hopefully it gives the crowd a bit of a different show.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>We can guarantee that one's going to happen, and we're

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>looking forward to the draw because yes, you're the ultimate

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 2>dangerous floater in the drawer. I guess, I guess.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean that's it's a question mark, isn't it,

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>of what they're going to get. And I think at

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 3>this point in my career people do understand that it's

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 3>going to be a bit of a roll the dice

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:06.919
<v Speaker 3>of what they're going to get.

0:36:06.960 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 5>So, I mean that's how you prepare. You just prepare

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 5>for anything.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 4>Well, we can't wait to see it and wish you

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 4>all the best.

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much. That's great.

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, Matt Nick returns to tennis with some pretty lofty goals,

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.240
<v Speaker 1>as he should with as you know, considering the talent

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>he has. But I also think it's such a win

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>for him to even be back on court after everything

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>that he's gone through, So really looking forward to saying

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there were like so many things that he

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<v Speaker 2>said in that interview. It was really like it was

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<v Speaker 2>really compelling to listen to him speak. But there were

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few surprising things that he said, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>really love drilling down with him about all of like

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<v Speaker 2>the business side of tennis and how he'd market it

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<v Speaker 2>and package it up. And he was saying that he would,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe adopt a three set format early in

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament and switch back to five sets in the quarterfinals.

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<v Speaker 2>And he wants more of an emphasis on mixed doubles,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they were I thought they were. It wasn't expecting

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<v Speaker 2>him to say those things, but I thought they were

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<v Speaker 2>really cool innovations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's obvious to me that he's spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time thinking about tennis in his time away from

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<v Speaker 1>actually playing, and he's taken a lot from his commentary

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<v Speaker 1>career as well, so he's really thought about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, on that mixed doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>Topic, he would love to play with or we would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved to have played with ash BARTI wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 1>have been an amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sight to have seen? Would have been wonderful. Well, we

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<v Speaker 2>hope you enjoyed listening to that as much as we

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed doing the interview. We'll be back again next Monday

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<v Speaker 2>with another episode of the sit Down where we bring

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<v Speaker 2>you our chat with WTA supervisor donniic Helso. And in

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<v Speaker 2>the meantime, you can listen to John and Brie and

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<v Speaker 2>the team this Thursday on the Aoshow Weekly.

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<v Speaker 1>Details for how to contact us are in the show notes,

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