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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the sit Down. I'm Viv Christie,

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Speaker 1: managing editor of Australian Tennis.

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Speaker 2: Magazine, and I'm Matrolope, writer for oz open dot com.

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Speaker 2: And Viv tell us why we're sitting down with Nick

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Speaker 2: Carryous this week.

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Speaker 1: Because he has announced that he'll be back this Australian summer.

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Speaker 1: He is playing his first tour event at the Brisbane International.

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Speaker 1: So Nick returns after a long injury break. He spent

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Speaker 1: the best part of two seasons sidelined. He comes back

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Speaker 1: with I think new perspective and yeah, lots to add

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we discovered that when the two of us

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Speaker 2: sat down with Nick at pat Raft arenap for what

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Speaker 2: ended up being a really wide ranging chat about a

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Speaker 2: lot of things. We obviously spoke about the comeback, but

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Speaker 2: Nick's a great talker, great student of the game and

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Speaker 2: has been involved from a media perspective, so we had

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Speaker 2: lots to chat about with him.

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Speaker 1: Nick was so generous with his time. This is a

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Speaker 1: longer interview than usual for us, but while worth settling

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Speaker 1: in to hear what he has to say. Well, Nick, firstly,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us on the sit down. It's

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Speaker 1: great to see you back on court again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been I've hit a lot of tennis balls

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Speaker 3: in the last year and a half, but they haven't

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Speaker 3: been proper ones. They've been like the furry ones and

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Speaker 3: literally starting out with you know, under ten's balls, then

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Speaker 3: building it up every couple of months and finally able

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Speaker 3: to come out here again on a beautiful court like

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Speaker 3: the Brisbane Arena and officially be you know, announced a

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Speaker 3: players is an insane moment that I thought that I

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Speaker 3: had a bit of fun today with Layton, sun Cruise

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Speaker 3: and Cooper and it's good to be back out there

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Speaker 3: amongst it. You know, there's a different energy to the

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Speaker 3: Aussie summer that I think that I've missed.

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Speaker 4: So six weeks or so out from the comeback.

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Speaker 1: What are the emotions as you look forward to them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm a bit nervous.

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's only natural to feel that way,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's healthy. It just means I care

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Speaker 3: it's all. It's interesting because I got asked like, why

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Speaker 3: would I put myself back in that position? And it's

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Speaker 3: I think it's just something that US tennis players, us

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Speaker 3: Ouzsy tennis players really missed the Australians. So I'm playing

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Speaker 3: in front of our fans that they are some of

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Speaker 3: the best fans in the world as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm just super excited. I feel like I'm in the

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Speaker 3: best shape of my life. I've been training really hard

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Speaker 3: and then I'm going to continue to do that over

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Speaker 3: the next six to eight weeks and we'll give we'll

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Speaker 3: give it a crack.

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Speaker 1: You're returning to the scene of one of your seven

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Speaker 1: career titles, the only one that you won in Australia.

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Speaker 4: What's the significance of that.

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Speaker 3: I just think the court in general really plays towards

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Speaker 3: my game style.

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Speaker 5: It's very fast, it's.

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Speaker 3: Great serving conditions. It's the only thing I don't like.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit humid. I forgot our humor this this

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Speaker 3: So yeah, look, I just think it's it's amazing. You

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Speaker 3: this tournament's always stacked with amazing talent and there's going

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Speaker 3: about the Australian players and how good they've been over

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Speaker 3: the last you know year or two, that some of

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Speaker 5: Career best years, career best titles.

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Speaker 3: So it's an exciting time for men's tennis in Australia.

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Speaker 2: What's it like hitting with Cruise, hit with Late It's funny,

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Speaker 2: It's it's.

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Speaker 5: Not it's not weird, it's not.

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Speaker 3: But I definitely give him, you know, some stick for it,

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Speaker 3: and I, you know, I like trash talking a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but no, it's it's cool. And as I said, I

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's it's a bit strange.

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Speaker 3: Like me obviously playing and I've competed against his dad

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Speaker 5: It's it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very full circle. Yes, what if you missed

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Speaker 2: it's the competitiveness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I missed, I missed. I mean I did compete

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Speaker 5: I'll compete a little bit too hard.

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Speaker 3: But I guess it's just actually the sport of and

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Speaker 3: I think winning, Like when you win a tennis match,

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Speaker 3: you know that the routine, actually the routine of winning

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Speaker 3: and enjoying that win with your team. I think that's

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Speaker 3: what our team into the other than twenty two. We

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Speaker 5: I think that's what I missed most.

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Speaker 2: We were also going to ask you if there was

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Speaker 2: a specific moment, because you were after you've been out

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Speaker 2: for two years, effectively, if there was a moment where

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Speaker 2: you felt the burning desire properly to return again, and

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Speaker 2: was it that conversation with Novak at Wimbledon, or was

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Speaker 3: I definitely went through a lot of dips, like energy lows,

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Speaker 3: I want to start the rehab. I want to sorry,

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Speaker 3: I want to you know, I want to get going.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is too hard. Like I was having

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Speaker 5: To do the work required. And I guess I had

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Speaker 3: And then I went to Wimbledon and I tried to,

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Speaker 3: And then he was like, it doesn't look like you've

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Speaker 3: And that's when I looked at my team. I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: So it's been a That was probably.

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Speaker 3: The turning moment when when Novak said that, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: At some stage.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like Novak was one of the players that really

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Speaker 4: With there any other players that really reached out.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think whether a player wants me to come

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Speaker 3: You know, I had a lot of friends, but I

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, look, there's been a plenty of supporters.

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Speaker 3: But I think people that I've drawn in spray from

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Speaker 5: I want to, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how my level is when I get back,

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if it's a fair I guess

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Speaker 3: making a Grand Slam final after such as severe injury.

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Speaker 5: But we'll see. But I think there've been some supportive

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Speaker 2: That's good. Yeah, it's obviously been as particularly the nature

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Speaker 2: But have there been any silver linings?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, look, spending time with my family,

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Speaker 3: I thought I'd missed out so much time, Like what

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Speaker 2: Do you feel Also, younger people talk about having like

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Speaker 2: so you know you're twenty nine, but are you physically

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Speaker 3: Kind of I actually feel as if I'm like seventy.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I've.

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Speaker 3: Had so many experiences and you know, I've dealt with

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Speaker 3: And people will assume I'm a lot older because I

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Speaker 3: I think it's just I don't know, it's just something

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Speaker 2: So is it actually like, are the crowd different compared

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Speaker 5: So I think I'd love to play on John Cane again.

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Speaker 3: I think I think how much I've kind of, I guess,

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Speaker 3: I want instant titles, I want Grand Slams Like that's

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Speaker 3: not that's not how the sport works. Sometimes it's my

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Speaker 3: Always it's Yeah, I just think that I'm really proud

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Speaker 1: You are there any periods where you look back at

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I regret moments in my career, to

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Speaker 3: enough now to say that, you know, they weren't like.

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Speaker 5: Would I do it again?

441
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,080
Speaker 3: Maybe, but they're not the right That wasn't the right

442
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Speaker 3: way to conduct myself.

443
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Speaker 5: But I did have fun. I think at the end

444
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Speaker 5: of it.

445
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Speaker 3: I think I think at the end of my career,

446
00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,680
Speaker 3: I did I did it my way and I had fun.

447
00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,000
Speaker 3: And that's that's the message that I think from my career.

448
00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,920
Speaker 3: It's like, you can be authentic, you can be yourself

449
00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,720
Speaker 3: and you can still kind of find navigate yourself your

450
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,240
Speaker 3: own way, your own way. They don't need like there's

451
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:16,840
Speaker 3: not one specific path to get there.

452
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Speaker 1: Sure, ahead of this interview, I did pull out something

453
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Speaker 1: which was your first Australiant tennis magazine.

454
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

455
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Speaker 3: The funny thing is I do remember this because my

456
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Speaker 3: mum has this frame in my house in camera outside

457
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Speaker 3: my room, so I see this all the time.

458
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

459
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Speaker 4: What do you think you stand? Do you recognize that, Nick?

460
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Speaker 5: I do recognize it.

461
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Speaker 3: I recognize a kid that had no idea what he

462
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Speaker 3: was stepping into. Honestly, like I was just I was

463
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Speaker 3: still at the Melbourne Academy when you know, we were there,

464
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Speaker 3: and I was living in Melbourne at the time with

465
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Speaker 3: the Guccioni family, and I was just a young kid,

466
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Speaker 3: just probably still in school at that time, and.

467
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.

468
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Speaker 3: I had no idea what what the roller coaster was

469
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Speaker 3: going to be like.

470
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Speaker 5: To be honest, is.

471
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Speaker 4: There any advice you would give to that.

472
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Speaker 2: Nick that Nick is a that's AO twenty fourteen, Nick

473
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Speaker 2: before that photo.

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Speaker 5: Is I would probably just say.

475
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Speaker 3: I'd probably say not to take criticism too hard. At

476
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Speaker 3: that time, I think I was a very I was

477
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Speaker 3: an emotional kid, and I was very like I was

478
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Speaker 3: a sensory person, like I took comments very personally. So

479
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Speaker 3: I would tell myself maybe not to take the criticism

480
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Speaker 3: too hard because it really it really affected me. So

481
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Speaker 3: I'd probably say, just continue to be that showman that

482
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Speaker 3: you have inside you. But there was going to be

483
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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that it was going to be such

484
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Speaker 3: a I didn't realize I was going to send such

485
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Speaker 3: shock waves I guess through the tennis world, I guess,

486
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Speaker 3: And I was eighteen. I had no idea that I

487
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Speaker 3: was able to do that I was a kid from

488
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Speaker 3: Canberra still in school, like, and I was going to

489
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Speaker 3: send shockwaves through the global tennis world. So I'd say,

490
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Speaker 3: just don't take criticism too hard.

491
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Speaker 4: From that perspective that you have.

492
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Speaker 1: Now, what life lessons do you think he can take

493
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Speaker 1: from tennis?

494
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Speaker 3: I guess you have to be an amazing problem solver

495
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 3: on the tennis court. You're always adapting as well. It's

496
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Speaker 3: the one sport where it's played all around the world,

497
00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,200
Speaker 3: different time zones, different diet, different cultures. You're always uncertain.

498
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 3: You never know what time exactly going to play, and

499
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Speaker 3: sometimes you never know. You could play for an hour

500
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,640
Speaker 3: and a half, play for five hours at a Grand Slam.

501
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 3: There's so many variables in tennis where no other sport

502
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,439
Speaker 3: can can understand that, Like what other sport has so

503
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Speaker 3: many question marks of your performance. So I think the

504
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Speaker 3: problem solving and you realize that nothing's perfect in love too,

505
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Speaker 3: Like the greatest of all time have only won over

506
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Speaker 3: just over half the points they've ever played. You know,

507
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 3: rogers et a one fifty four percent of points, so

508
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Speaker 3: he's losing like pretty much every.

509
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Speaker 5: Second point he's playing.

510
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Speaker 3: So like the ability to pick yourself up after having

511
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Speaker 3: a bad day or you know, you could have a

512
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Speaker 3: bad relationship and anything, you've got to understand it.

513
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Speaker 5: You know, you got to pick yourself back up.

514
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Speaker 3: And I think tennis is a very good teacher that

515
00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: because you can't win, you're not winning every week, you

516
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 3: know you're losing, pick yourself back up, go again. So yeah,

517
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Speaker 3: you've got to be a fast learner and a good loser.

518
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Speaker 1: I noticed today when you were hitting with cruise, you

519
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 1: were giving lots of advice.

520
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, would you obvious see it yourself as a coach possibly.

521
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Speaker 5: I mean.

522
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Speaker 3: Me and Jordan Thompson always joked about like me and

523
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Speaker 3: him would would take like kids away on a tour

524
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Speaker 3: and we would be the coaches.

525
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Speaker 5: That'd be a fun tour.

526
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Speaker 3: I would probably do it, like at some stage, I

527
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 3: think I do enjoy I actually do enjoy watching. I mean,

528
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: obviously from a commentating standpoint, I enjoy watching and enjoy

529
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Speaker 3: and I'm not a very critical commentator.

530
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Speaker 5: I don't like when commentators, you know, beat down or.

531
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Speaker 3: Too critical because it's not easy out there and in

532
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: this today's day and age, game is so physical. But

533
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Speaker 3: I could see myself one day maybe you know, I

534
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Speaker 3: enjoy giving people you know, advice or tactical advice and

535
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Speaker 3: then seeing them trying to execute that. I think I

536
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 3: could see myself one day doing that. Yeah, I mean

537
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Speaker 3: it's a bit of fun.

538
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Speaker 1: It has been an amazing year in Australian and as

539
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Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, have you and we're heading into the

540
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Speaker 1: Davis Cart Finals, which Australia would.

541
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Speaker 4: Be a part of. Have you missed being a part

542
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Speaker 4: of all that?

543
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Speaker 5: Definitely? I love the team environment. I love being a

544
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Speaker 5: part of that team.

545
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Speaker 3: You know, they're so of my That's some of my

546
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Speaker 3: closest friends, you know, Thanasi Jordan Thompson. I'm so happy

547
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 3: for Jordan to see how how well he's gone top

548
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 3: thirty in the world, and we literally grew up and

549
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 3: played the exact same tournaments together from eight years old.

550
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Speaker 3: We played each other at Wimbledon and to see him

551
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Speaker 3: having success is so cool. So I do miss it.

552
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, these guys are all capable,

553
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: and I think, you know, I was kind of the

554
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Speaker 3: first one, I guess knock on the door and show

555
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 3: that it was possible, and then these guys started believing,

556
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: and you know, now they're all having some amazing success.

557
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: Alexi's getting you know, coming out of his shell and

558
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: he's understanding what he needs to do at the highest

559
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Speaker 3: level to execute, and it's they're more than cable to

560
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Speaker 3: win it, you know, without me.

561
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Speaker 5: You know.

562
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Speaker 3: And and the fact that I even had a conversation

563
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Speaker 3: with late and yesterday that he thinks that I'm able

564
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Speaker 3: to still add value was a positive for me.

565
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I missed the team environments.

566
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Speaker 3: I love them, you know, I love I do miss

567
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Speaker 3: the home and away aspect of Davis Cup. I will

568
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Speaker 3: say that was the most special thing ever, you know.

569
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Speaker 3: I remember we played a tie out here against USA

570
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Speaker 3: and it was some of the coolest atmosphere.

571
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Speaker 5: Well, so yeah, I mean I do miss being out there.

572
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Speaker 2: You've alluded a couple of times today about like the

573
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Speaker 2: business side of tennis in the entertainment. We really like

574
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Speaker 2: tennis players that are cognizant of the business side because

575
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Speaker 2: it's more than just hitting balls. Yes, if you had

576
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Speaker 2: the capacity to do this, if there's one thing you

577
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Speaker 2: could immediately or quickly change that you think could help tennis, Like,

578
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Speaker 2: what would that be?

579
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Speaker 3: I would make Grand Slams the best of three up

580
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Speaker 3: until the quarterfinals. I think it would save us a

581
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Speaker 3: lot of effort on scheduling. You know, the first week's

582
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 3: scheduling gets out of control. I think with both the

583
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Speaker 3: men's side and the women's side playing best of five,

584
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Speaker 3: and sometimes the women's matches go long best at three,

585
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: I mean, men's matches aren't finishing till like two three am,

586
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Speaker 3: and it's just not sustainable, I don't think.

587
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Speaker 5: And I think if you made it best to three

588
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 5: of them to the quarter.

589
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 3: Finals, you'd see some guys breakthrough to the quarterfinals, but

590
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Speaker 3: then obviously the better players would end up winning obviously

591
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: best of five anyway, So I think the best of

592
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Speaker 3: three them to the quarter finals and then from then

593
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Speaker 3: on its best to five. That's what I would immediately

594
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Speaker 3: change to Grand Slam. It would save a lot of

595
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Speaker 3: stress of scheduling, and it would make it more The

596
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 3: first couple of weeks would be more exciting because some

597
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Speaker 3: of these top players as well, they lose a first

598
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 3: set in the earlier rounds and they're right away back

599
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: against the wall. How many times have we seen one

600
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Speaker 3: of the best players in the drawer lose a first

601
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Speaker 3: set and you're just like he's going to come back

602
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 3: and ruin anyway, Like it's it's actually boring, where like

603
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: if Novak goes down a set, or even when Lee too,

604
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: I think he won to set against Alcaas early on,

605
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: that's one set all, and then it's one set that

606
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 3: could change Lee's entire career. He beat Alkaaz at the

607
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: Senate Quarter, You've completely you become a name, So I

608
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Speaker 3: think that would be a cool thing to change.

609
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Speaker 2: I love that you've got any other have you got anything?

610
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Speaker 3: I would I would have players miked up as well.

611
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Speaker 2: I think you like officially sanctioned on Yeah, yeah.

612
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Speaker 5: I think.

613
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Speaker 3: I think like if you watch the NBA, they give

614
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: their like obviously the uniform or the kit you're going

615
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: to wear, they professionally put like a mic inside the

616
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: shirt around the collar so you can I can't feel it.

617
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 3: And then I think not doing that is being absurd

618
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: for me, Like why would you not have like Novak

619
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Speaker 3: or our Karaz or them miked up to hear what

620
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: they're saying, or even even before the points, like you

621
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Speaker 3: see some of these amazing athletes. I do it myself

622
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: sometimes before every point their self, talking to themselves like

623
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Speaker 3: why would you not have the content that you could

624
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Speaker 3: create from that already would have tennis fans glued to

625
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Speaker 3: their phone.

626
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Speaker 5: I mean, I've got heaps, but that's that's another one

627
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Speaker 5: I would do.

628
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Speaker 3: I think from a like a fans standpoint, and I

629
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Speaker 3: would do mixed doubles at masters events. Oh wow, because

630
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Speaker 3: what other sport can you get your favorite female athlete

631
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Speaker 3: and your favorite male athlete competing on the same side

632
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Speaker 3: of the net for like good prize money. It's not possible,

633
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: Like you don't see any other sport really, So I

634
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: think Master's events should instead of men's doubles womens just

635
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: mixed mixed.

636
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 4: So would you would you play? Who would you love

637
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: to play?

638
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: I mean, there's plenty of good players I'd love to

639
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: play with, past them present. I mean, look, if I play,

640
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: I've had the I've had the honor of playing with

641
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Speaker 3: Serena and Venus.

642
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 5: I would have liked to play well.

643
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Speaker 2: Not many people can say that I would.

644
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 3: Have loved to have played with ash Party at some stage.

645
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: I think she I think was by far one of

646
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 3: the most talented female players to ever play the game.

647
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Speaker 5: I think we would have done some damage.

648
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 4: On the court for absolutely.

649
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Speaker 2: And I guess the media your role moving into the

650
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 2: media is a form of the business side because it's promotion.

651
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Speaker 2: What's your favorite interview that you've ever done apart from

652
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: this one obviously.

653
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's been great so far. I really like

654
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: doing pregame interviews. I did a bit of that at

655
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Speaker 3: the US Open. I feel like walking on.

656
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 5: Yes, you know, just as.

657
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 3: You're interviewing some of these players before they're going on,

658
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: you can really feel their energy.

659
00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: You know.

660
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: Obviously postmatch everyone's kind of relieved or you know, whatever

661
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: emotions they feel. But it's not as you could cut

662
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: the tension with a knife, you know. I did Taylor

663
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 3: Fritz and franc Tiafa at the US Open, and I

664
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: could feel the nervous energy off them when I was,

665
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, right next to them, and I was almost

666
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: a bit.

667
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: Nervous because I could.

668
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: I could, I could, I just know being in that position.

669
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: They struggled to sleep that the night before all they

670
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 3: could think about was the media, you know, saying, who's

671
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 3: going to like? It was so good? And I knew

672
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: that I had the power to get a cheeky little

673
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: answer out of both of them. But I think, you know,

674
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: commentating and this side of things in the tennis world

675
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: is so underrated because when someone turned on TV.

676
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 5: They might not know.

677
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 3: Like we're not talking about the fans that have followed

678
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 3: the sport for twenty years. We're talking about new fans

679
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: bringing them to the game. They're not going to know

680
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: anything about these players. So the commentating needs to be

681
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: up to like. It needs to be up to date,

682
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: I guess in a way, And it needs to be

683
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: like kind of how the generation is now. They can't

684
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: concentrate for more than a couple of minutes, so it

685
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: needs to be like loud. It needs to be energetic

686
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 3: for a twenty second thirty second. Then that might get it,

687
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 3: that might grab a new fan. So I'm just trying

688
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: to grow this mort as much as I can. I

689
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: guess on both sides of the spectrum. But it hasn't

690
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: been easy.

691
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 5: Let me tell you no.

692
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: Well, you've obviously, though enjoy as you said, like you

693
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 2: want to stay in there. You really enjoy it, and

694
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: you're obviously good at it. What's something like has it

695
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: given you a new appreciation of how the media operates?

696
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: Or has it given you like a way of looking

697
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 2: at tent I remember it might have been storm storm

698
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: Sanders when she told us when she moved into coaching,

699
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: she said, it completely revolutionized the way she approached her

700
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: own game because she was viewing it from a different way,

701
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: and so she became really tactically aware. And so is

702
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 2: it similar with commentary. You're viewing the game differently, So

703
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 2: do you take that into your own tennis a little bit?

704
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't had a coach for now, like

705
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: seven years, so I already feel as if I tactically

706
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: am very switched on about my game, and I do

707
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 3: I study film, and I watch other players, and I

708
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: know every other players strength and weakness back to front.

709
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 5: It's more so just I just love having fun with it.

710
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: Like I feel like I've only watched and played tennis

711
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: for twenty years. Like it's really easy to get in

712
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 3: there and just be funny and drop it, you know,

713
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 3: some knowledge and some fans if someone's doing a specific thing.

714
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 5: I just I really enjoy it. And I think tennis

715
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 5: commentating right now needs a bit of needs a bit

716
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 5: of a shakeup.

717
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: I think was there anything that surprised you about being

718
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: a commentator?

719
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: How mean some of the commentators are.

720
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I guess when you've really played

721
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 3: and you understand like the futures and the challenges like

722
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: how many players there are on a global scale, and

723
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: how heart it is to actually make it into the

724
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 3: top one hundred and twenty eight players to make a

725
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 3: Grand Slam. I don't like I sometimes I don't like

726
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 3: how much you know, I mean not to mention names,

727
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: but someone like Johnny Mack, like he'll just say like, oh,

728
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: this guy, like who is this guy's like this guy's

729
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: like top one hundred and twenty in the world, Like

730
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: he deserves completely deserves to be there.

731
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: He might have battled through three.

732
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: Rounds are qualifying and that as our job as commentator

733
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: is to study these players and know their journey and

734
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: hopefully get their name out there. We can't just continually

735
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: promote the same players over and over again. You know,

736
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: there are some good players out there that no one,

737
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: no one knows, So that's my I take that into

738
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: account when I like commentating, I like to really get

739
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: it out there.

740
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, yeah, there's actually quite a few young

741
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: ones that are coming through, like new voices in the sport.

742
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: It's been really it's freshened. It's helped freshen it out,

743
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: but it can keep going that way.

744
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 3: It needs to go that way, because I mean you

745
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: look at for the last twenty years, the sport's only

746
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: really promoted four or five players, and then they go

747
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: and then it's like, then what happens to the sponsors?

748
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: And then people lose interest and so the sport essentially

749
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: will lose money.

750
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Did I have another question out think? Oh? Yeah,

751
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: So in your commentary, who have you most enjoyed watching?

752
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good one. I really liked.

753
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 3: I enjoyed doing Demona and Thompson at the US Open.

754
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: That was a fun one, obviously, because you know, I'm

755
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: close with both of them.

756
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 5: But I think I've watched it. I've done a lot

757
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: of Novak.

758
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: Matches and he frustrates the hell out of me because

759
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: I hate doing his matches early on in Slams because

760
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: he just he just plays around with his food for

761
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 3: like four hours, and I'm like, you could have I

762
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: could have been in my hotel an hour and a

763
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: half ago, and he'll be up to that's the love,

764
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 3: and then he'll lose the third and he'll start complaining

765
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: and then he'll go to his box and then he'll

766
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: be a seven six in the fourth and I'm like, dude,

767
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: and I'll see him.

768
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, do you just enjoy keeping me because he

769
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: knows that I'm in there?

770
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and then he starts like losing focus and

771
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 3: then I'm like, like, he frustrates the hell out of me.

772
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: I hate doing no vas matches, but I've done a

773
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: lot of outcras as well, and I think that's probably

774
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: probably one of my favorite to watch because he's so

775
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 3: exciting and he always has something up his sleeve that

776
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: I think this tennis world hasn't seen.

777
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: He's going to keep evolving.

778
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: You haven't played him yet, have you not yet? I

779
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: think he's the only one in the top ten.

780
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 5: Yes, yep, yeah, well that could be fun. Yeah, that'd

781
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 5: be fun.

782
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I guess my my last one on this

783
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: side of things is in the So you've been out, Yeah,

784
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: you've played one match since October twenty twenty two. The

785
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: sport has evolved a bit since then. What have you

786
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: made of how it's progressed and maybe some of the

787
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: new players that have come along in your absence? Like,

788
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: what are you coming back to?

789
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 3: I think yeah, the sports kind of I think the

790
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: courts have kind of slowed down everywhere, so I think

791
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: you see more more of the know all rounder type

792
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: of game style. Now you don't see his serve dominant

793
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: players anymore. I mean there's a couple in the top ten,

794
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: you know, Taylor Fritz, you know Huby Hircash was in

795
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: the top ten for for a while there, and those

796
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: were the really the two guys that only were in

797
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: sort of the stat wise of serve bots, you know,

798
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: those players that were just serve dominant. But you look

799
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: at everyone in the top ten. Now everyone's in a

800
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: great mover. You know, you've got outcras in a whole

801
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: garooon like Demona, Like, these guys move insane, and so

802
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: guys like me that are six four six five, I

803
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: think we kind of have to, you know, keep adapting

804
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: our game and figure out how we're going to beat

805
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: these kind.

806
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 5: Of small guys that move like Gazelle's out there.

807
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: So I think the sport as kind of like it's

808
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: it's favoring these guys that are more all rounded type

809
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 3: of players that have really no weakness, the incredible returners,

810
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: and that you know, you look at someone like Sinner,

811
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: he's moving and range and hitting absolutely he's knocking the

812
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: ball as hard as he can and you just wouldn't.

813
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: All these courts are kind of playing all the same

814
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: speeds now, where at Wimbledon you could kind of negate that,

815
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: you know, by serving big and you know, taking cuts

816
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: out of it. But you can't really do that anymore so

817
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: and the game is a bit Yeah, it's it's different

818
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: now for sure.

819
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: So are you preparing with your comeback? Are you preparing

820
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: for it with that in mind?

821
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: I think I have to, you know, I think, you know,

822
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 3: I'm not going to beat some of these guys now

823
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: by trying to outrally them.

824
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 5: That's just not possible.

825
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: I think Mevdev was the first one that changed that,

826
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: playing five meters behind the baseline. Then these other guys

827
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: started coming through, and you just have to have variation.

828
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: Someone like me has to have to have variation, you know,

829
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: keep them guessing, you know, two big first serves, you know,

830
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: trying to take some risk because you're not going to

831
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: beat these guys playing their type of game style, which

832
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: is rallying and then trying to aray them.

833
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 5: It's not possible.

834
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: Is a really famous quote intenans that pressure is a

835
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: privileged bliging king quote.

836
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 4: What does that mean to you?

837
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

838
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: I think not everyone can deal with, you know, especially

839
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: you see that quote as you walk out to Arthur

840
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: ash Stadium and when you really walk out there on

841
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: a night session and the whole you know, the stadium

842
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: is completely packed and there's a constant buzz because it's

843
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: so loud in there, and you're getting balls as you're

844
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: about to serve and you look up and it's like

845
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: a wall of people just glaring down at you. I

846
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 3: think that's when you realize that not everyone's cut out

847
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: for you know, and people don't want to be in

848
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: that position. I think when you realize that you're under

849
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: that much pressure and you have anxiety, and you realize

850
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: that you've got you know, eyes at you and you've

851
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: got to hit a tennis ball on the line, that's

852
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: when you realize that, yeah, you are a special type

853
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: of person and you've you've worked to put yourself in

854
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: a position, but not everyone's capable of dealing with it

855
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: and executing under pressure. So, you know, I had the

856
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: luxury of playing on that court so many times, and

857
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: it's it's it's it is it's daunting sometimes, you know,

858
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 3: and you've got five people in your box that look

859
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: at you and they understand how you are as a

860
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: person off the court, and then all of a sudden

861
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: you're this this I guess, another person in the middle

862
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 3: of this arena that's full staring at you. It's it's

863
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: strange because then I get off the court and I'm like, yeah,

864
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 3: you just snick again. So it's like a very interesting

865
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: dynamic of if you want to be that person, because

866
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: it's hard. It's hard to be in that I guess

867
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: a pressure cook all the time.

868
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't help noticing your cap with the word Azilien.

869
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

870
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: What quality do you think has served you most in

871
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 4: your carisofa.

872
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: I have been very resilient, I think, you know, there

873
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: have been times where I didn't want to be a

874
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: part of the tennis world anymore.

875
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 5: I was really struggling with mental health. I was struggling

876
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 5: with so.

877
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: Many different things, and I just kept kind of, I guess,

878
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 3: trying to just keep moving forward.

879
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: You know.

880
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: I think I strongly believe that you never stay still.

881
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: You either you know, move slightly in the right direction

882
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: or you move slightly backwards. So I think I've just

883
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: been extremely resilient. Honestly, I just I'm really proud to

884
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Speaker 3: be here again at the Aussie summer and just being

885
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: able to compete, and I think I'm carrying myself in

886
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Speaker 3: the right way.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I probably say Resilien's probably one of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to finish up as you look ahead

889
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: to the Ausy summer and you'll come back overall, what's

890
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: the Is there a focus or a particular goal that

891
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Speaker 1: you're striving for.

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00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: Well, I mean I don't.

893
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: I didn't want to enter the tournament just to just

894
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: to play again. You know, I do want to win.

895
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: That's ultimately my goal. I'm not going to sit here

896
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: and say I'm the favorite, absolutely not, but I do

897
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Speaker 3: believe that I'm able to, you know, walk. I want

898
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Speaker 3: to walk away from the Aussie summer with some great memories.

899
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Speaker 5: And that doesn't mean winning a tournament.

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Speaker 3: That means maybe, you know, competing against one of the

901
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Speaker 3: best in the world and I might come up short,

902
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: but I realize that, wow, my level is still there

903
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: after everything that I've gone through. That's success and I

904
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Speaker 3: want to do it. And I want to carry myself

905
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Speaker 3: in the right way. You know, if I lose a match,

906
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: I want to look at the opponent of the ice

907
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: too good. I want to be able to just walk

908
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: away from the other summer and feel good about my

909
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: performance and the amount of work I put in and give.

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Speaker 5: Hopefully it gives the crowd a bit of a different show.

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00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: We can guarantee that one's going to happen, and we're

912
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: looking forward to the draw because yes, you're the ultimate

913
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Speaker 2: dangerous floater in the drawer. I guess, I guess.

914
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Speaker 3: So, I mean that's it's a question mark, isn't it,

915
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: of what they're going to get. And I think at

916
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Speaker 3: this point in my career people do understand that it's

917
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Speaker 3: going to be a bit of a roll the dice

918
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Speaker 3: of what they're going to get.

919
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Speaker 5: So, I mean that's how you prepare. You just prepare

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00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 5: for anything.

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Speaker 4: Well, we can't wait to see it and wish you

922
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Speaker 4: all the best.

923
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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. That's great.

924
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 1: Well, Matt Nick returns to tennis with some pretty lofty goals,

925
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: as he should with as you know, considering the talent

926
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Speaker 1: he has. But I also think it's such a win

927
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Speaker 1: for him to even be back on court after everything

928
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Speaker 1: that he's gone through, So really looking forward to saying

929
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 1: that this summer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were like so many things that he

931
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Speaker 2: said in that interview. It was really like it was

932
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Speaker 2: really compelling to listen to him speak. But there were

933
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Speaker 2: quite a few surprising things that he said, Like I

934
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Speaker 2: really love drilling down with him about all of like

935
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Speaker 2: the business side of tennis and how he'd market it

936
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Speaker 2: and package it up. And he was saying that he would,

937
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, maybe adopt a three set format early in

938
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Speaker 2: the tournament and switch back to five sets in the quarterfinals.

939
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Speaker 2: And he wants more of an emphasis on mixed doubles,

940
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: Like they were I thought they were. It wasn't expecting

941
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Speaker 2: him to say those things, but I thought they were

942
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Speaker 2: really cool innovations.

943
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's obvious to me that he's spent a lot

944
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Speaker 1: of time thinking about tennis in his time away from

945
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: actually playing, and he's taken a lot from his commentary

946
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: career as well, so he's really thought about it.

947
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Speaker 4: And yeah, on that mixed doubles.

948
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Speaker 1: Topic, he would love to play with or we would

949
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Speaker 1: have loved to have played with ash BARTI wouldn't that

950
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: have been an amazing.

951
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: Sight to have seen? Would have been wonderful. Well, we

952
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed listening to that as much as we

953
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Speaker 2: enjoyed doing the interview. We'll be back again next Monday

954
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Speaker 2: with another episode of the sit Down where we bring

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Speaker 2: you our chat with WTA supervisor donniic Helso. And in

956
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Speaker 2: the meantime, you can listen to John and Brie and

957
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Speaker 2: the team this Thursday on the Aoshow Weekly.

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Speaker 1: Details for how to contact us are in the show notes,

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00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: and please subscribe, rate and review.

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