WEBVTT - URSULA - AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR WEEK 3 - NETWORK 10 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.680 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.360 TV Reload the podcast last week. Thereby, Hey guys, welcome 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:07.160 back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:10.400 clicking and downloading on today's episode with Ursula, one of 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:14.720 this week's eliminated Australian Survivor players. This is the third 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.640 week of Brains Versus Braun two and we did see 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.040 another Braun player get booted, and we are going to 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:24.200 get some hot takes on why Ursela was eliminated and 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.240 what she thinks of this week's gameplay. Ursula will talk 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.960 about her relationship with Nash and how that affected her 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.920 game overall. Ursula will share what she thinks about Noonan 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.960 and what she has to say will shock the average 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.360 viewer by revealing where their friendship is. Now let me 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.159 say it is not where you think it is. It 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.440 is a little bit complicated. I find out about why 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:49.559 those buffs were dropped early and what was actually happening 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.600 on the Braun camp that wasn't welcomed by Ursula. You 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.800 will get everything from Ursula's takes on the eliminated players 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.760 this week, concluding Max what she thinks of that epic 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:03.840 fase self challenge that we saw getting tied and who 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.240 deserves to come back next year that's actually going to 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:08.840 really surprise you. So there is actually so much to 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.720 talk about. As per usual, guys, I'm a massive Survivor fan, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.720 So sit back and relaxes. We unpack the wonderful world 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.600 of Australian Survivor, which is back this Sunday night, and 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:22.160 let me tell you Week four. I am ready. How 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:22.920 are you good? 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:23.399 How are you? 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.920 I'm very well, you know, I'm I'm kind of shocked 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:27.560 by your game plan. I'm just going to get right 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:31.280 into this because when I saw you in the cast, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.080 I was like, she is a weapon. People are going 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.039 to be so excited to have her because you just 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.160 bring the strength. And then almost straight away it's like 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.440 people didn't see that, they didn't see you for what 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.240 you were worth. Did you feel like that? 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:45.240 Absolutely? 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.920 I mean I was targeted from the start, so yes, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.200 I did feel it. 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:52.360 I did see it, but I. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.440 Fought for eighteen days, so I wasn't going to let 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.200 it affect me. 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:00.280 Now, you fought for eighteen days, like you survived. Yes, 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.120 you were put up again and again. Does this happen 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.080 to you in your real life? Because I'm looking at 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.800 you right now and you look like so sweet and lovely. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.600 You do not look like someone who should have a 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:10.480 target on their back. 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.440 No, listen, I have copped it a little bit in 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.040 my life, but you know, I just get up every 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.160 day and I do what I need to do, and 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:20.200 you know, it. 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:21.799 Is what it is. Who cares. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.560 I'm not going to let anyone kind of bring me down, 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:26.200 just not how I roll. 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.080 Really, people in the forums kept saying that you played 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.480 to emotionally. Do you think that there's any truth to that, Like, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.240 I don't see that as me reading you out some 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.880 troll comments because I don't think that that's what it is. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.079 But I think I didn't see it like that when 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.280 I was watching it. But then on reflection, maybe there's 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:43.640 some truth in that for sure. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:45.120 Yeah, I agree with you. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.440 I think, particularly in those last two days, I was 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:49.680 playing emotionally. 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.560 Yeah, maybe that's because there was there was a lot 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:53.200 going on that. 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.840 Wasn't shown, particularly how Noonan was treating me. So that 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.280 was ultimately why I wanted her gone, and it showed 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.440 because the public are also seeing it as well. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.760 I have to get into this noon and conversation, but 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.760 I feel like just one beat ahead of where I 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:11.880 need to start. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.639 With with some of these informations, we can wait. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.880 Yeah, we'll do a separate podcast, the Noonan Podcast. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.640 Oh poor noon I feel like you. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.080 Go to sleep at night time and you'd be having 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.160 nightmares about her. But Nash. People kept thinking about your 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.880 relationship with Nash. If Nash wasn't there and he hadn't 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.760 sort of orchestrated a relationship with you, things might have 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.000 played out differently. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.440 For sure, one hundred percent. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.480 He really advocated for me, and watching that first episode, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.640 I did not know. I mean, he tells me what 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.800 he said, and he told me that he advocated for me, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:47.000 but really he can say whatever he wants because I 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.440 will never know until the show is and I didn't, 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.920 and I saw that he advocated for me, and I 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.280 was just shocked by that. I really did not know, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.200 And I'm so blessed to have had him do that, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.560 because had he not, would have been me. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:01.160 For sure. 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.400 You're not regretting that relationship with Nash then, oh absolutely not. 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.080 Do you know what's so weird was when I caught 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.840 up with him, I full disclosure. I found him quite 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.280 polarizing on the show. But when I caught up with him, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.240 I really brought into his energy and who he was 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.400 as a person. You think there was some kind of 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:22.080 a disconnect between Nash and who he is versus the 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.040 personality we saw on the show. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:25.599 For sure, one hundred percent. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.760 You know, even when the cameras weren't around, he made 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.680 us all laugh. He kind of Anyone would say that 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:34.839 all I did was crack up at him. You know, 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.560 he'd make these one off comments or one line as 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.799 while we're all laying in bed together, and I would 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.640 just crack up. So he's definitely a little Nashy. I'll 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.239 call him Nashi Pear because he's, you know, round in juice. 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.680 He like a Nashi Pear. So you know, he's got 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.919 all the goss, he's got all the laughter. That's what 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.840 I call him, Nashi Pears, So you know that's exactly 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:54.400 how he is. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.560 Well, I feel like, then we need to step into 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.280 this doing and thing really quickly, because you know, we've 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.320 only got twenty minutes, and I feel like this Bible 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.039 X twenty minutes. But what do you think was the 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.839 biggest problem with your relationship with Noonan, Because it really 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.120 did set itself up for this ongoing rivalry. 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:13.600 I mean from the start, and I would say this 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.039 all the time, particularly to Petere and Kristen. She's just 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.120 fake and that's fine. She can go into the game 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.040 being fake. If that's the game she wants to play, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.800 then that's fine. That that good on her. But it 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.880 really shined through while she was playing the game, and 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.800 it's shined through on the TV. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.400 Well. I just want to say, fake is a It's 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.200 a big thing to throw out there, sure, because like 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:40.240 you know, for me, I see her as maybe the 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.919 younger sibling of some more dominant personalities, and over time 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.760 she may have learnt to be loud to be heard, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.400 and I think that that still can be who you are. 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.640 Do you think that you're saying fake in those terms, 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.039 or do you think that she was fake in sort 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.600 of misrepresenting herself. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.240 She would say one thing to me and then say 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:01.880 another thing to someone else. 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:02.760 So oh yeah, we saw that. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.279 Yes, So that's what I mean by fake. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.560 If we were all in a group, she would act 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:10.680 a type of way and then act a different type 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.360 of way when she was with others, And. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.800 I think that that was mostly only with me. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:18.560 Do you know what My theory on this though, is 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.320 for you is that I think can secure people in 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.599 social situations picked the weakest person in their mind to 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.120 sort of mock in a weird way them be elevated. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.719 And I wondered whether or not that's something that Nonan 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.560 was doing with you, was that you were probably the 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:37.080 weakest link out of everybody in an obvious way, so 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.760 it was fine for her to elevate herself by pushing 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:40.120 you down. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.360 I don't know, Oh yeah, for sure, Okay, for sure. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:43.440 I mean I didn't have this. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.160 I didn't have those connections straight off the bat with people. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.160 But as the days. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:54.040 Went on, the role reverse, so I really started gaining 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.599 some real relationships. And I mean the alliance that she 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.480 was in the kind of pushed her out a little bit, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:07.080 just prior to tribe swap, and she wasn't all what 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.800 she made out to be. So I mean, I love her. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.720 You know, I've had friends in the real world. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:14.560 Are you talking in. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.200 The mill like I've had her at my house? 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.680 Oh wow, did you poison learn to get the mushrooms 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.120 out to secretly poison her? 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.000 No? But honestly, since my elimination, there's it's been a 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.480 bit rough because obviously she hasn't had very good feedback 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:32.040 from the public. But as I've said, we go into 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:35.320 the game knowing that we're going to be portrayed in 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:39.040 any way, shape or form. You went into the game 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:42.480 being that type of person, so you have to accept 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:43.400 the backlash. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.280 God's a lot to swallow for her, though, do you 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.520 know what I mean? Like, Yeah, it's a really hard 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.760 thing going on reality TV because it isn't as straightforward 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.320 as this is a true mirror about yourself, and she 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.160 is lovely. So you're saying she's fake on the show 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.480 and then you found her to be real in real life. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:01.400 This is interesting. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.720 Oh no, No, I wouldn't say that. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.840 Because you don't have a camera to play back what 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.480 she says when she leaves your house, thank you exactly. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.680 I have tried to do the right thing. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.520 I've invited her to my house, I've made food for her. 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.480 But you know, I still feel the same way I 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:20.480 felt on the show. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.080 But I would say that you knowing that you had 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.040 such this is how I would play the game, and 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.040 who cares what I think? But I wonder whether or 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.880 not having such an outstanding beef something that's going on, 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.320 shouldn't you just tidy it away, like that's what I 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:34.280 think i'd probably do. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.400 I tried, and I actually tried on several. 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:40.040 Occasions, and you were like, this ain't happening. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:45.760 No, she just kept on lying to me and saying, yes, yes, yes, Sola, 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.280 let's do this, yes, yes, yes, you know, but it 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:48.959 never happened. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.320 Well, we should talk about that lying, because was she 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.600 lying when she said Karen's name, Because you scoffed very 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.000 loudly in that tribal council when she threw you under 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:00.880 the bus, and you'd thrown her name up lying again. 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.240 Then okay, I'll tell you the full story here. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.199 So Paulie actually came to me and said, hey, this 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.480 is what we should do, and told me that whole story. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:14.160 And then Noonan came over separately, and then I relaid 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.160 that story that Paulie gave to me, and she made 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.200 it out like it was mine. We've all spoken about 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:25.360 it since the show. Paulie admitted it at my house 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:29.240 that it was his idea. But apparently I'm hearing that 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:30.840 he's he's. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.360 Saying no, no, no, I didn't. I didn't. That wasn't 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.720 my idea. So you know whatever, let him have it 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:39.720 and let them have it. I don't care. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:43.679 I just love this. This is it's still going on, 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:44.360 is what I'm saying. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:49.480 This is absolutely If they want to choose to believe them, 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.160 then that's fine. I've been known to be a truth teller, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.160 They've been known to lies. 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.840 So let's all lead to believe we're all just maying 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:59.760 ourselves right now. 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:00.640 That's it. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.640 But you predicted all of this so accurately. I mean, 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:05.920 I don't think anyone's ever had an exit interview that 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.240 goes for thirty seconds that sums up people so accurately, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.360 Like did you for off over yourself when you said 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:14.280 all of those things? Because you ticked a lot of boxes. 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.400 You're like, Noonan's not who she says she is, Paul's 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.400 not who he says he is, and AJ's controlling the camp. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:26.120 Goodbye, Listen, I always say, and I say it all 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:31.680 the time, people's true colors will always shine through, regardless 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.480 how fake they're being. And for those three, I've picked it, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.079 and you know, I think I picked it right bang. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.520 On the money. I wonder whether or not this series 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.120 is setting up this is all fresh cast of newbies. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.440 I wonder whether or not this series honed in on 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.840 some rivalries happening to bring you guys back, because do 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.000 you think there's any truth in this? In my theory, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.600 Kent and Max Kent Burt Max's hat, they're definitely coming back. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.160 There's a rivalry, come on, and now Max is gone 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.640 and Kent's gone. You know that's what it is. You 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.840 have this rivalry with Noonan. So I feel like the 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.240 four of you could easily come back for another series 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.320 of Survivor called rivals. Could we be onto something? 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.240 I mean, give me a time, a date, and I'll 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:12.720 be there. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.800 Would you go back so easily? Because it's a firstful environment. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.920 You know, I have. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.920 Said, I've said this to Noon and I've messaged her 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.120 and said to her, this is not over. If they 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:27.680 ever want to the police rivalry or if they ever 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.720 want us back on, it's on. 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:30.800 I'm ready. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:31.520 I'm here for it. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.040 Yeah, I'm ready. I mean, it's not over. She got 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.560 me in the end, but we'll see how long she lasts. 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.360 I mean, we'll see how long she lives. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.720 Do you feel like maybe that it might have been 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:47.440 too early to drop the buffs. I don't know if 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.600 the buffs Maybe I'm not as big a Survivor officionado 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.160 as I think I am. But it felt very soon, 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.800 like very early in the game. What's your theory as 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:57.079 to why that happened so early? 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.080 Yes, so it was definitely early on in game, and I. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:05.520 Think that's because there was just not much gameplay going 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.400 on at all in the bron Tribe. It was really 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.840 hard to There was a group of six Alliance and 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:17.559 it was really hard for myself, PD and Kristen to 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:19.840 ruffle any feathers. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.319 They just were not budgeting and that's a boring game. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:24.160 Let's face it. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.640 Who wants to watch six people singing Kumbai behind a 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:28.720 camp you know around it? 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.640 Well, not on this show. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.760 No, you go on there to play a game, to 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.480 be controversial, to stab people in the back. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.319 Why else would you go on the game? 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.839 Well, they're different shows. I mean like the Jungle I'm 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:41.520 a Celebrity is a bit like that. You know, everyone 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.559 goes into the Jungle to win that game. You need 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.720 to sit around and tell your sad story and relate 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.920 to people and you know, get along. Where with this one, 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.640 it's on the box, it's on the tin. It's like 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.920 live chat and steel and you. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:59.559 Will get absolutely, absolutely absolutely I am one hundred percent 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.160 on the same page, And I said that sometimes we'd 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.520 all be sitting around the campfire and I remember pulling 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.160 these faces and I'm thinking, what am I doing here 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:12.439 listening to these people rap and sing and playing clapping games. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:13.800 I'm just like, yeah, okay. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.440 Well, and you're like, what show did you guys sign 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.960 up for? You know, then going home early. I wonder 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.079 whether or not the dynamics of what was planned for 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.679 this show got thrown out of whack because he was, 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.520 you know, presenting himself as to be quite strong. Do 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.200 you think that there's a possibility that, you know, early on, 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.559 if someone leaves, they should try and replace them. Should 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.560 they have a couple of spare survivor castaways ready to 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.200 replace someone like that so early on, because it did 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.520 feel like, you know, having him have his accident and 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.079 then fall out, that it kind of upset the dynamic 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.640 a little bit. I mean, it could be just me. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.760 I mean, you could have some castaways on the side 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.000 ready to go for me. I mean, I was upset 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:54.880 that he'd gone out the way he did, but at 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.040 the end of the day, I was at the bottom, 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.000 so it was one less person I had to convince 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.760 to kind of, you know, be on my side. I 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:06.200 hope he gets another chance because he was gone way 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.320 too quickly, and I really think that he had so 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.840 much more to give because he was He actually even 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.480 had quite a similar gameplay to Nash, except I think 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:20.240 he was a little bit more calculated and he didn't 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.120 show that side of him that much. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.480 To most of the cast members. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.760 So I think he would have done really well had 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:28.680 that not have happened. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.960 And it really leans into the ongoing debate about challenges 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.400 on Survivor. I'm always like, make them really hard, you know, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:36.920 make them really stressful. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.640 But unless you have to go one on one with me, then. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.520 Shit, I mean, I'm going to tell you. I'm going 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.840 to tell you. So I was watching you in that 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:48.360 challenge with the music and everything, and I it was 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.680 so intense, Like, you know which challenge I'm talking about 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.320 is that the challenge with Karen holy Manoli. I was like, 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.200 this is like you know when you're stumbling across TikTok 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.840 or Instagram and you see of like two snakes fighting 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.680 where it's like I don't even know who's going to 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.440 survive this. That's what it was like for me. 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:09.360 Yes, and that's what it was like living it and 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.320 watching it. It was unreal and I didn't actually know 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.440 that it went for that long. And I suppose while 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.440 we're there on that platform, you don't realize that we're fighting, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.640 that you're fighting for that long. The thing is is 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.440 that we're both as stubborn as each other. We were 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:28.920 not going to let either win. So but I think 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.360 it's going to go down in Survivor history as one 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.920 of the biggest and the best challenges. 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.920 I'm going to co sign on that one. I'm co 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.440 signing that it was for sure. He was so epic. 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.520 I think I watched it twice and I just was 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.680 like both times I had the same reaction. It was 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.720 sort of jaw to the floor. Before we move on 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.360 and I lose time with you, we need to talk 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:48.960 about the two other people that I've left this week, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.920 because everyone will want to know your perspective on that. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.200 With Rich, I've heard on the grapevine he was a 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.360 bit disappointed with the fact that he's come out. But 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.600 with Rich, do you think it was a bit rich 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.760 that he said in his exit interview that he was 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:01.960 just about to get spicy, Because that sort of pisses 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.560 me off with reality TV people when they're leaving and 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.720 they go, oh, I'm sad that I've gone, because you know, 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.040 I was just about to get spicy, you know, like. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:11.560 You should have already been spicy. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:16.680 But I saw him already being spicy. He was a 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.760 bit of a snake, and I kind of get why 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:19.800 people didn't like him. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:20.440 I get it. 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.360 But at the end of the day, that's why we 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.720 go on the game. We go on to be spicy, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.240 we go on to be a certain type of person, 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.400 and he was that certain type of person. Maybe it 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.040 wasn't as spicy as what it could have been had 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:34.320 he been there a little bit longer. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:36.440 The thing is is we all want to get to Merge. 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:37.760 Yeah, so you do. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.480 Downplay it a little bit. And even that was my 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.000 game plan too, Okay. I wanted to kind of be 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:45.080 quiet and lay low, and unfortunately. 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.040 At backfired because I just wanted to get to Merge. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.880 Come Merge. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:49.960 I would have unleashed, and I think I did start 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.040 to unleash there a little bit with mernin It's just. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.760 For me, Like if I was to order some hot 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.520 spicy chicken from KFC, and the piece of chicken I've 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.160 eaten was then to say I was going to be spicy, 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:00.560 I'd be disappointed. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.160 But sure, absolutely, But at the end of the day, 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:04.960 we also want to get to a certain point in 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.720 the game. And that's for Aj too. He hasn't been 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.240 spicy up until now. It's just like the draw really, and. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.440 Then we've got Max. You'd be watching Max and you'd 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.800 be looking at sort of this week he all of 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.280 a sudden became like Jim Kerry Ace Ventura, Like what 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.240 I mean, great television, my friend, and for sure so entertaining, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.200 but way to blow up your game a little bit, 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:27.800 don't you think? 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:28.400 Oh? 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.800 Absolutely? And unfortunately he went on with an idol. He 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:32.600 should have used it. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.480 Yeah, he really is like that in real life too, because. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.800 He's just that really loud bubblea kind of you know, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.479 ready to go attitude. And I think he did have 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.520 so much more to give. I mean, as I said, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.119 it's just like the drawer. Unfortunately, Yeah, I hope he 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.520 does get a second chance, because he really was coming through. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.119 I mean, he was very entertaining. I got to say that, like, 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.440 you know, I was really shocked for them to even 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:56.919 for him to. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.960