WEBVTT - The Podcast Interview Turned PR Nightmare 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:05.840 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.680 hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.320 Amy Torba and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro's 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:17.560 sisters have labeled her fiance Matt Zakowski as an immature baby, 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.040 Lucy Jackson has spilled the tea on her breakup, and 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.239 Sky Wheatley reveals dramatic fox eye results. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.160 The first Katie Perry's. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.720 Grand Final performance is going viral on TikTok and it 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.720 has even made headlines in the US after a dancer 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:33.360 suffered a costume mishap. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:34.960 I love this story so much. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:38.040 Is the story that keeps on giving because this mishap 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.800 happened when Katie was singing Teenage Dream and her set 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.640 had this really futuristic sort of space age vibe to it. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.040 But then at the same time, it was very early 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:51.480 two thousands, and she wore Speed Dealer sunnies and had 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.800 this blue gladiator esque breastplate on with white shorts and 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.600 these deconstructed combat pants. What did you think of the outfit? 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.040 She looked amazing, and she was also looking very bronze 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.479 because she ended up getting a faked tan by Beck 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.600 Judd and Nadia Bartel's business, which is spray oz. Yeah. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:11.399 I saw the TikTok of the woman who actually performed 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.440 the spray tan on Katie Perry, and it just made 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.800 me think how odd it must be for celebrities to 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.360 have spraytns done, because you just know everyone would be 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:19.880 talking about it, or you'd they'd be. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.800 Taking everything in. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.120 You're pernalizing you. They're getting into this mishap. So it 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.720 happened with one of her backup dances, and they were 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:31.000 dressed in these metallic spacesuits and they were holding oversized 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.640 foil balloons, so they were using them as props to 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:37.280 dance with, and things didn't go exactly to plan for 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:42.040 one dancer whose balloon popped mid performance and instantly deflated. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.120 So this stood out so much in the sea of 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.440 over one hundred and fifty dances, and to the dancer's credit, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.880 they carried on trying their best to dance with this 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.040 deflated balloon and not detract from the performance. That're the 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.559 worst thing ever, because every time there's a huge event 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.160 on like the AFL Grand Final, you just know there 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.960 are the armed spectators at home waiting for something like 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.680 this to happen, and it didn't take long for this 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.000 clip to go viral, and the consensus online was that 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.960 the deflated balloon looked like a goon sack. So it 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:14.240 was a very patriotic moment for Ossie's and someone on 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.880 TikTok had an absolute banger comment. They said, do you 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.160 ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:21.320 wanting to start again? 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.480 Of course, in reference to her song Firework. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.560 Well, it's not the first time that one of Katie's 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:29.080 dancers has distracted the crowd from her performance, because during 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:32.600 Katie's Super Bowl halftime show in twenty fifteen, there was 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.920 a guy dressed as a shark and he didn't know 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.520 any of the dance moves property he was so distracting, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.919 and the US Weekly have compared the balloon incident to this. Now, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.239 the talk of the town has been Katy Perry's pay 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.839 packet because it was five million dollars. Do you think 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.800 seven songs is worth five million dollars? Well, initially everyone 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.079 was saying she was only going to perform five songs, 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.760 So everyone was like, ge a million dollars per song, 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.840 that's a huge amount of money. And when I first 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:00.200 heard it, I also thought, wow, that is a lot. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:04.000 But it's also being reported that the AFL was originally 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:08.080 after the Rolling Stones and reportedly they wanted twenty million 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.000 dollars to sing four songs. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:10.720 That's ridiculous. 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.000 So five million in the scheme of things doesn't sound 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:13.480 that bad. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.880 And I think she deserved it because it's not just 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:16.920 for the one performance. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.560 There would have been a lot of effort going into 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.720 the preparation. Also the fact that she's built herself up 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.240 to be a sensation. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:25.400 She's not really the preparation. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.600 It's more than twenty plus years or I don't know 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.920 how long has Katy Perry been around for probably about fifteen. 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:33.800 But also for her to come out and have that 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.880 much impact, Like everyone is saying that this is the 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.320 best performance they've seen at an AFL Grand Final. I mean, 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:42.680 but two to advocate summed it up pretty well. They said, 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.240 credit to the headhn shows at the AFL. That was 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:49.280 fucking awesome. Katie Perry has today vindicated the decision to 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.520 pay her fat stacks to come and perform at. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:52.720 The AFL Grand Final. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.240 All I could think was how much would Taylor Swift 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:55.760 have charged? 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.720 Yeah, that's a good question. I have absolutely no idea. 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.560 I also think though it is really good publicity for 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.640 Katie's show because she's obviously coming to Australia. After seeing 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.640 her perform at the AFO Grand Final, I was like, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.600 I want a ticket to this. I have been playing 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.920 her songs NonStop in my car. What did you think 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.440 of Tina Arena popping up during I Kissed a Girl. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:14.520 It was a bit of. 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.719 A letdown for me, probably because she's not really in 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.719 my age demo. I was thinking maybe a Kylie Minogue. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.480 That being said, a lot of publications are saying that 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.360 Tina Arena out shown Katy Perry oh vocally, I mean, 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.360 she was amazing in change, But I just thought they 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.240 were going to kiss at one point during the song. 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.960 Well that's what they were sort of alluding to at 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:36.760 one point, because I saw it on TikTok. The clip 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.599 popped up and they almost looked like Jess and Lisa 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.640 from the Veronicas when they were back to bat. I 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.919 said that I didn't see that now. They would have 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.400 been a great inclusion. My partner and I said, what 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.920 about Delta. I think Delta would have been amazing. 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:51.240 See you guys hate me. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.640 Tammy Hembro's sisters have made it clear they don't approve 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.120 of her fiance Matt Sakowski, just weeks out from their. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:00.080 Byron Bay wedding. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.919 Appearing on Matt's podcast, Emily and Amy Hembro labeled the 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.719 reality star and immature baby and admitted they had massive 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:12.680 concerns about the relationship. This episode was an absolute blood bath, 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:13.040 and I. 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.720 Must have been. I loved every second of it. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.839 I still know how this episode was allowed to air. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.920 It began by Anna asking Amy and Emily what they 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.600 first thought of Matt, and she did preface that they 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.200 could be honest, and they were. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:27.440 They were very honest. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.920 It's clear that they weren't interested in giving some sort 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.240 of pr response and they went into what they really 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.359 thought of him. But it's kind of on brand for 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.720 the Hembro sisters to do that. Yeah, after listening to this, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.960 I just thought, why did they never bring out the 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.160 reality show because I would have loved to see all 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.920 of this playing out in real time now. Emily said 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.960 she had massive concerns about Matt right off the bat 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.080 and that she didn't want to meet him and said 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.560 it was too fresh now. That comment was in reference 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.760 to the fact that Tammy had only called off her 0:05:56.800 --> 0:06:01.240 engagement to a former Ironman fiance, Matt, less than a 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.320 year before meeting Matt two point zero. Yeah, you could 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.080 tell that their sisters were hoping that Tammy was going 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:08.800 to chill out for a bit and not really get 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.719 into any serious relationships. It is pretty crazy when you 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.280 look at the timeline, because Matt Paul and Tammy got 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.640 engaged in November twenty twenty one, and she then gave 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.479 birth to their daughter, Posey in June twenty twenty two, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:23.640 and it's reported that they split just three months later, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.400 so it's all been very quick, and the sisters explain 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:31.359 that they'd previously got very invested in Tammy's relationships and 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.880 had overstepped. It kind of reminded me of our relationship 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.920 with each other, where you give your honest opinion on guys. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:38.279 Well. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.880 Also, you spend all of this time during the breakup 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.600 pumping the person up, telling them what they should do. 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.919 And it's quite clear that Emily and Amy were upset 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.719 because they said that they had a plan with Tammy 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.400 after the breakup with Matt Paul. They said the next 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:57.400 person Tammy meets that she should take things slower with them, and. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.400 Tammy agreed to it. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:04.040 Here's how Amy does described Tammy when it comes to relationships, and. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.440 Tammy loves love, you would know that she loves romance 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:11.400 and that's why she always falls so hard, which I hated, 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.400 but also loved about her and didn't want her to 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:14.040 ever lose that. 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:17.040 So I always just like hoped for you guys to 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.920 work out. I don't think Tammy would have been happy 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.320 with this description because she cops so much shit online 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.680 from people saying that she races into relationships and she 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.040 falls head over heels too quickly, and this is kind 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.560 of sementic. Yeah, it just reiterates what everyone's. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.480 Been saying online. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.400 Now, there were so many revelations during this podcast, but 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:41.040 one of the biggest involved a planned elope. Well. I 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:43.440 couldn't believe they were talking about this. So this was 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:47.000 only weeks into their relationship when Matt and Tammy announced 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:50.160 to their families that they were eloping and even had 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.200 a location booked in. Now for context, this was before 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.920 Matt then went on to propose to Tammy in the 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:58.240 Maldives last year. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.920 I can't imagine why the family were concerned at all. Oh, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:02.800 it just seems totally normal, doesn't it. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.560 Now. This elopement led to crisis meetings with the Hembro family, 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:09.880 and it sounded like things got particularly heated with Emily. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.080 Here's what she said. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:14.240 You and Tim we were going to a lope. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.160 We were going to a loaf. 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.520 We were concerned the naturally. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.040 I know you say you had no feelings, but you 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.000 were very strong on. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:21.360 The other. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.320 Silly, and it would have been a really bad mistake, 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:27.760 but I just didn't. I didn't express it to anyone, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.160 but I think I expressed. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:29.960 It just to you. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:30.480 Hate me. 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.280 There has nothing to do with it. It's not your 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.040 character who you are. It was going to be any 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.040 any person that she was with, you know, And I 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.040 just found it, Like I remember saying to you the 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.600 first time we spoke about it at her house, and 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.040 I just said to you, like, what's the rash? 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.679 And you were like, well, why not? We love each other? 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.760 And I was like, that's just like so silly. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.360 It's so fascinating hearing all of the dirty details of 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.319 what went on behind the scenes, because I feel like 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.960 we were almost gas lit into thinking that the whole 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.920 family approved of Matt and that everyone thought it was 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.640 so normal that things were moving at such a fast pace. Well, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.559 they had Papa hembro on as in Tammy's dad a 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.719 couple of weeks ago, and he was acting like he 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.520 was cool with the whole thing. But it sounds like 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.560 the sisters had a very different take on it. But 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.679 sometimes the parents like, of course Tammy's dad is going 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.640 to go on there and speak her up. I mean, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.280 it's the sisters that give the very genuine side of 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.800 the story. It was so awkward listening to this because 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.040 Matt was clearly not reading the room because he then 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.480 went on to ask Emily and Amy, oh, what have 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.960 you guys attended the elopement if it went ahead? Shut up, Matt, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.680 I'm not talking, and Emily hit back and said, isn't 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.080 the point of an elopement to do it without people. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.280 I think it was Matt and Emily that were butting 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.160 heads the most, because Matt kept going at Emily and saying, oh, well, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.200 you got engaged to your husband very quickly after meeting him. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.960 But she was like, well, I hadn't just been proposed 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.680 to twice or had a one year old child yet, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.920 which was a bit of a burn to Tammy was 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.840 also made it very clear that that's clearly what Tammy 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.560 and Matt are saying behind the sisters backs, She's done 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:06.200 the same thing. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:08.679 It did seem like Tammy's. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.760 Sisters must have gotten through to the couple a little 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.680 bit because despite the elopement being booked in, Tammy changed 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:15.160 her mind. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:17.520 He said, I don't want a loathing because it had 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.520 it booked in in like a month later. And then 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.640 I was like, well, I'm going to propose, make it 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.240 more like romantic, and then she was like, nah, we're 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:26.199 not a looking I want to do it. 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:30.559 Wait. Despite Tammy's sisters really pushing for them to slow 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.040 things down, Matt was still very adamant that he wanted 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:34.720 to propose. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.600 So he explained in this interview that he locked in. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.600 A time to visit Amy and Emily at their skin clinic, 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.120 and he had the ring with him because he was 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.120 there to seek their approval. I mean, it was so 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.200 obvious that they weren't cool with the thing of the 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.800 whole time, and her absence spoke volumes, and she said 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.400 it was her way of giving Matt a big fat no. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:55.599 This is what Emily said. 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:58.720 When you guys said you were getting engaged. I was 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.679 like he he must be that delusional. I was really 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:07.480 concerned because she is, like she's spontaneous, and she's a 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.000 fun spirit, and she likes to do what she wants 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.280 to do. But for a guy to come in and 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:14.760 think that's okay when she's got a one year old, like, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:16.400 I thought that was a big red flag. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.160 It's pretty evident that Emily hates Matt's guts. I mean 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.880 that's what I took from this interview. And it was 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.640 almost like she was saying that he was too irresponsible. 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:27.880 To be a stepfather. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.880 Yeah, And things got even worse when Emily then issued 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.719 a warning to Matt. 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.280 I feel like I like Matt as a person, Like 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.120 I think he's nice. Yeah, I think he's immature. I 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:41.800 think he's got to do a lot of growing up. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.280 Like you're very immature, but I think you're a nice person, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:47.319 Like you've got a good heart, Like you've got good 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.000 intentions with her. But I do still feel like it 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:52.400 could be a longer engagement. But like we get along, 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.280 there's no beef, there's love, no beef. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:55.680 After this. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:01.480 Immature in what way you're like some of the stuff 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.319 you say, I can't think of things up to my head. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.520 That's like a little teenager boy would say something like that, 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.560 like a little baby, a big baby. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.480 You're right, I. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.440 Just hope you know marriage is a serious thing. Yeah, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.400 it is actually a serious thing. And like I hope 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.840 you don't make any mistakes, Like I really pray and 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.960 hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.400 I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:37.280 of hurting Tammy. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.880 I totally get the baby comment after hearing that say 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.280 that I'm not gonna hurt Tammy. That is my absolute 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.040 it when people speaking baby voices, It's like he was 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.600 this little boy who was being told off. Look, the 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.439 biggest issue for me, and it appears the sisters. 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.679 Is Matt's rush. It just seems like everything is such 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.679 a rush. I don't get what it has to be. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.160 I mean, if he really love her, why can't they 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:02.360 wait two years to get married. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.120 These comments from Emily are just so explosive because what 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.920 she's essentially saying is that she is concerned that Matt 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.920 is going to cheat on Tammy. I don't know if 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.439 she's sayings by giving him a warning saying you better 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:15.240 not hurt her. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:16.559 Well, they were obviously. 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.719 Pissed off after that grand Prix DM that got expired. Well, 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.319 that is totally what this is in reference to. And 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.160 I think she's very concerned that when the reality of 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.839 marriage sets in for Matt, you know, once all these 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.440 festivities are over, that he will become bored and unhappy, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.040 particularly when he's becoming a new step dad to three kids. 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:37.600 Do you think they're also trying to get her on 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.839 the record like before they get married. It's kind of 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.120 like we were right. I feel like they probably had 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.760 a fight with Tammy beforehand and they just can't stand 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.040 sitting there and blowing smoke up this guy's ass. But 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:50.959 I how did an air Like if this was recorded 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.240 a few weeks ago, surely Tammy would have heard it 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.480 and said, please don't air this. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.120 This is too damaging in. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.640 Terms of PR. This is the worst PR this couple 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.000 could have just weeks out from their wedding. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:01.640 Well, that's the thing. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.680 Emily wasn't glowing of Matt either when it came to 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.440 discussing how he was with her kids, because online there's 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:10.400 been a lot of discussion like, oh, he looks like 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.480 quite a good step dad. Because that's what I took 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:13.600 from all the tiktoks they do. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:14.600 I was like, oh, God on them. 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:16.600 He's having fun with the children's taking them to the 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.760 movies because we saw that he and Wolf both shave 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.360 their heads, and everyone's been saying how much Wolf looks 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.120 like mad and they seem to have quite a cute 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:28.800 little connection and when maybe he's on their level, maybe well, 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.320 Emily said, oh, I haven't really seen him much with 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.000 the kids, and she confessed that the first time that 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.400 Matt hung out with the whole family, she purposely tried 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.800 to make it appear extra chaotic with the kids. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:40.480 Yeah, I feb that. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:42.560 Was hilarious, because she said she even went as far 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:45.400 as banging the table when he wasn't watching. I was like, Oh, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.240 the kids are pretty good today, They're not that noisy. Yeah, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.640 it was clearly a test, and she said that Matt 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:53.360 looked like he'd seen a ghost. I just couldn't help 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.800 but feel like Emily in particular, was trying to insinuate 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.920 that Matt was a bit of a gold digger because 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.720 he stands to gain lot from marrying Tammy. She is 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.960 reportedly worth fifty million dollars, and unless they sign a prenup, 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.200 Matt could potentially claim half of her fortune if they 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:12.120 get divorced, and I don't think they have prenups in Australia. 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.760 I'm sure there's some legalities around it though, And I 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.080 just think ultimately this is why they are so suspicious 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.520 of him rushing into this, because there seems to have 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.000 been a lot of love bombing from the start, and 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.920 Tammy had been telling her sisters that she was in 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.160 love and had met her soulmate and that they're going 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:33.000 to be together forever, and they're probably just thinking, well, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.840 if she was worth nothing, would you be rushing into marry. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.440 I don't think that Matt is a gold digger. I 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.360 don't think that's why he's after Tammy. I just think, 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.800 as a sister said, he's in this way, so you 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.720 don't think that her lifestyle has anything to do with 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.360 the fact that he wants to lock things down quickly. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:52.080 It's when you think of a gold digger, you generally 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.480 think of somebody who's going after some like old person 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.960 that has nothing going for them, like Tammy Henbro has 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:58.560 a hell of a. 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.880 Lot going for her rather than matters. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.760 But I'm saying like, I think he's in awe of 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.400 Tammy because she's gorgeous, she's super successful. Yes, she has 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:09.360 a lot of money and probably a lifestyle that he 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:10.520 is quite envious of or. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:10.920 Wants to be. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.080 What's the point of getting married so quickly? 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:13.960 Like couldn't you just. 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.480 Because I think he's being immature and he's in awe 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:20.680 of her because of how famous and successful and talented 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:21.120 she is. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.960 To be honest, it sounds like he is very immature. 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.360 But also I love this part of the podcast because 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.080 the sisters pointed out that they found it particularly concerning 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.960 the way that Matt was so quick to call Tammy's 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.720 house our house. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.760 That's what kissed me off. Here's what they said. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.360 And you were talking about I think the New Year's 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.920 here party, and you were like, are you going to 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:47.040 come to like our house that we're hosting our party? 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:50.960 And you literally just met just like just. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:57.120 Like a few times, like ah, like I'm okay, I 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:05.520 get you guys, Like, oh house, it's the first time 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:06.399 we've been to this house. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.040 I was still staying in a hotel. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:14.760 This is so uncomfortable to listen to. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.480 It is so clear that he has totally rubbed this 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.600 family up the wrong way, and his comments just really 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:25.040 seemed to lack awareness, because it's like he's sending the message, Oh, 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.719 this two story mansion is already mine, even though it's 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.199 like the first time he's fucking been there. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:30.560 Well, there was a huge red flag. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.439 I think I would have loved to have been a 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.719 fly on the wall during the car ride home between 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.760 Amy and Emily, because they would have been bitching their 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.360 faces off, Like if this was me and I'd met 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.920 your boyfriend, Sophie and he was calling your house his, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.000 that would infuriate me so much. Oh totally, there would 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.120 be so much bitching going on behind the scenes. It's 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.119 probably not a great move as well when he said 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.359 that they were in fact invited to the party, like, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.600 of course they were invited to the party. All the 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.080 whole vibe that I get from this is that Emily 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.399 and Amy and the other sisters potentially have made it 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.080 very clear to Tammy what they think about Matt, and 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.720 Tammy is probably wanting to prove them wrong by marrying him, 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:11.800 by saying, look all worked out, Like, not only is 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.200