Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Amy Torba and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro's
Speaker 1: sisters have labeled her fiance Matt Zakowski as an immature baby,
Speaker 1: Lucy Jackson has spilled the tea on her breakup, and
Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley reveals dramatic fox eye results.
Speaker 2: The first Katie Perry's.
Speaker 1: Grand Final performance is going viral on TikTok and it
Speaker 1: has even made headlines in the US after a dancer
Speaker 1: suffered a costume mishap.
Speaker 2: I love this story so much.
Speaker 1: Is the story that keeps on giving because this mishap
Speaker 1: happened when Katie was singing Teenage Dream and her set
Speaker 1: had this really futuristic sort of space age vibe to it.
Speaker 1: But then at the same time, it was very early
Speaker 1: two thousands, and she wore Speed Dealer sunnies and had
Speaker 1: this blue gladiator esque breastplate on with white shorts and
Speaker 1: these deconstructed combat pants. What did you think of the outfit?
Speaker 1: She looked amazing, and she was also looking very bronze
Speaker 1: because she ended up getting a faked tan by Beck
Speaker 1: Judd and Nadia Bartel's business, which is spray oz. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the TikTok of the woman who actually performed
Speaker 1: the spray tan on Katie Perry, and it just made
Speaker 1: me think how odd it must be for celebrities to
Speaker 1: have spraytns done, because you just know everyone would be
Speaker 1: talking about it, or you'd they'd be.
Speaker 2: Taking everything in.
Speaker 1: You're pernalizing you. They're getting into this mishap. So it
Speaker 1: happened with one of her backup dances, and they were
Speaker 1: dressed in these metallic spacesuits and they were holding oversized
Speaker 1: foil balloons, so they were using them as props to
Speaker 1: dance with, and things didn't go exactly to plan for
Speaker 1: one dancer whose balloon popped mid performance and instantly deflated.
Speaker 1: So this stood out so much in the sea of
Speaker 1: over one hundred and fifty dances, and to the dancer's credit,
Speaker 1: they carried on trying their best to dance with this
Speaker 1: deflated balloon and not detract from the performance. That're the
Speaker 1: worst thing ever, because every time there's a huge event
Speaker 1: on like the AFL Grand Final, you just know there
Speaker 1: are the armed spectators at home waiting for something like
Speaker 1: this to happen, and it didn't take long for this
Speaker 1: clip to go viral, and the consensus online was that
Speaker 1: the deflated balloon looked like a goon sack. So it
Speaker 1: was a very patriotic moment for Ossie's and someone on
Speaker 1: TikTok had an absolute banger comment. They said, do you
Speaker 1: ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind
Speaker 1: wanting to start again?
Speaker 2: Of course, in reference to her song Firework.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not the first time that one of Katie's
Speaker 1: dancers has distracted the crowd from her performance, because during
Speaker 1: Katie's Super Bowl halftime show in twenty fifteen, there was
Speaker 1: a guy dressed as a shark and he didn't know
Speaker 1: any of the dance moves property he was so distracting,
Speaker 1: and the US Weekly have compared the balloon incident to this. Now,
Speaker 1: the talk of the town has been Katy Perry's pay
Speaker 1: packet because it was five million dollars. Do you think
Speaker 1: seven songs is worth five million dollars? Well, initially everyone
Speaker 1: was saying she was only going to perform five songs,
Speaker 1: So everyone was like, ge a million dollars per song,
Speaker 1: that's a huge amount of money. And when I first
Speaker 1: heard it, I also thought, wow, that is a lot.
Speaker 1: But it's also being reported that the AFL was originally
Speaker 1: after the Rolling Stones and reportedly they wanted twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars to sing four songs.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: So five million in the scheme of things doesn't sound
Speaker 1: that bad.
Speaker 2: And I think she deserved it because it's not just
Speaker 2: for the one performance.
Speaker 1: There would have been a lot of effort going into
Speaker 1: the preparation. Also the fact that she's built herself up
Speaker 1: to be a sensation.
Speaker 2: She's not really the preparation.
Speaker 1: It's more than twenty plus years or I don't know
Speaker 1: how long has Katy Perry been around for probably about fifteen.
Speaker 1: But also for her to come out and have that
Speaker 1: much impact, Like everyone is saying that this is the
Speaker 1: best performance they've seen at an AFL Grand Final. I mean,
Speaker 1: but two to advocate summed it up pretty well. They said,
Speaker 1: credit to the headhn shows at the AFL. That was
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Katie Perry has today vindicated the decision to
Speaker 1: pay her fat stacks to come and perform at.
Speaker 2: The AFL Grand Final.
Speaker 1: All I could think was how much would Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: have charged?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 1: I also think though it is really good publicity for
Speaker 1: Katie's show because she's obviously coming to Australia. After seeing
Speaker 1: her perform at the AFO Grand Final, I was like,
Speaker 1: I want a ticket to this. I have been playing
Speaker 1: her songs NonStop in my car. What did you think
Speaker 1: of Tina Arena popping up during I Kissed a Girl.
Speaker 2: It was a bit of.
Speaker 1: A letdown for me, probably because she's not really in
Speaker 1: my age demo. I was thinking maybe a Kylie Minogue.
Speaker 1: That being said, a lot of publications are saying that
Speaker 1: Tina Arena out shown Katy Perry oh vocally, I mean,
Speaker 1: she was amazing in change, But I just thought they
Speaker 1: were going to kiss at one point during the song.
Speaker 1: Well that's what they were sort of alluding to at
Speaker 1: one point, because I saw it on TikTok. The clip
Speaker 1: popped up and they almost looked like Jess and Lisa
Speaker 1: from the Veronicas when they were back to bat. I
Speaker 1: said that I didn't see that now. They would have
Speaker 1: been a great inclusion. My partner and I said, what
Speaker 1: about Delta. I think Delta would have been amazing.
Speaker 3: See you guys hate me.
Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's sisters have made it clear they don't approve
Speaker 1: of her fiance Matt Sakowski, just weeks out from their.
Speaker 2: Byron Bay wedding.
Speaker 1: Appearing on Matt's podcast, Emily and Amy Hembro labeled the
Speaker 1: reality star and immature baby and admitted they had massive
Speaker 1: concerns about the relationship. This episode was an absolute blood bath,
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: Must have been. I loved every second of it.
Speaker 1: I still know how this episode was allowed to air.
Speaker 1: It began by Anna asking Amy and Emily what they
Speaker 1: first thought of Matt, and she did preface that they
Speaker 1: could be honest, and they were.
Speaker 2: They were very honest.
Speaker 1: It's clear that they weren't interested in giving some sort
Speaker 1: of pr response and they went into what they really
Speaker 1: thought of him. But it's kind of on brand for
Speaker 1: the Hembro sisters to do that. Yeah, after listening to this,
Speaker 1: I just thought, why did they never bring out the
Speaker 1: reality show because I would have loved to see all
Speaker 1: of this playing out in real time now. Emily said
Speaker 1: she had massive concerns about Matt right off the bat
Speaker 1: and that she didn't want to meet him and said
Speaker 1: it was too fresh now. That comment was in reference
Speaker 1: to the fact that Tammy had only called off her
Speaker 1: engagement to a former Ironman fiance, Matt, less than a
Speaker 1: year before meeting Matt two point zero. Yeah, you could
Speaker 1: tell that their sisters were hoping that Tammy was going
Speaker 1: to chill out for a bit and not really get
Speaker 1: into any serious relationships. It is pretty crazy when you
Speaker 1: look at the timeline, because Matt Paul and Tammy got
Speaker 1: engaged in November twenty twenty one, and she then gave
Speaker 1: birth to their daughter, Posey in June twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: and it's reported that they split just three months later,
Speaker 1: so it's all been very quick, and the sisters explain
Speaker 1: that they'd previously got very invested in Tammy's relationships and
Speaker 1: had overstepped. It kind of reminded me of our relationship
Speaker 1: with each other, where you give your honest opinion on guys.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Also, you spend all of this time during the breakup
Speaker 1: pumping the person up, telling them what they should do.
Speaker 1: And it's quite clear that Emily and Amy were upset
Speaker 1: because they said that they had a plan with Tammy
Speaker 1: after the breakup with Matt Paul. They said the next
Speaker 1: person Tammy meets that she should take things slower with them, and.
Speaker 2: Tammy agreed to it.
Speaker 1: Here's how Amy does described Tammy when it comes to relationships, and.
Speaker 4: Tammy loves love, you would know that she loves romance
Speaker 4: and that's why she always falls so hard, which I hated,
Speaker 4: but also loved about her and didn't want her to
Speaker 4: ever lose that.
Speaker 1: So I always just like hoped for you guys to
Speaker 1: work out. I don't think Tammy would have been happy
Speaker 1: with this description because she cops so much shit online
Speaker 1: from people saying that she races into relationships and she
Speaker 1: falls head over heels too quickly, and this is kind
Speaker 1: of sementic. Yeah, it just reiterates what everyone's.
Speaker 2: Been saying online.
Speaker 1: Now, there were so many revelations during this podcast, but
Speaker 1: one of the biggest involved a planned elope. Well. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe they were talking about this. So this was
Speaker 1: only weeks into their relationship when Matt and Tammy announced
Speaker 1: to their families that they were eloping and even had
Speaker 1: a location booked in. Now for context, this was before
Speaker 1: Matt then went on to propose to Tammy in the
Speaker 1: Maldives last year.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine why the family were concerned at all. Oh,
Speaker 2: it just seems totally normal, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Now. This elopement led to crisis meetings with the Hembro family,
Speaker 1: and it sounded like things got particularly heated with Emily.
Speaker 2: Here's what she said.
Speaker 5: You and Tim we were going to a lope.
Speaker 3: We were going to a loaf.
Speaker 2: We were concerned the naturally.
Speaker 3: I know you say you had no feelings, but you
Speaker 3: were very strong on.
Speaker 1: The other.
Speaker 5: Silly, and it would have been a really bad mistake,
Speaker 5: but I just didn't. I didn't express it to anyone,
Speaker 5: but I think I expressed.
Speaker 2: It just to you.
Speaker 3: Hate me.
Speaker 5: There has nothing to do with it. It's not your
Speaker 5: character who you are. It was going to be any
Speaker 5: any person that she was with, you know, And I
Speaker 5: just found it, Like I remember saying to you the
Speaker 5: first time we spoke about it at her house, and
Speaker 5: I just said to you, like, what's the rash?
Speaker 2: And you were like, well, why not? We love each other?
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's just like so silly.
Speaker 1: It's so fascinating hearing all of the dirty details of
Speaker 1: what went on behind the scenes, because I feel like
Speaker 1: we were almost gas lit into thinking that the whole
Speaker 1: family approved of Matt and that everyone thought it was
Speaker 1: so normal that things were moving at such a fast pace. Well,
Speaker 1: they had Papa hembro on as in Tammy's dad a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and he was acting like he
Speaker 1: was cool with the whole thing. But it sounds like
Speaker 1: the sisters had a very different take on it. But
Speaker 1: sometimes the parents like, of course Tammy's dad is going
Speaker 1: to go on there and speak her up. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the sisters that give the very genuine side of
Speaker 1: the story. It was so awkward listening to this because
Speaker 1: Matt was clearly not reading the room because he then
Speaker 1: went on to ask Emily and Amy, oh, what have
Speaker 1: you guys attended the elopement if it went ahead? Shut up, Matt,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking, and Emily hit back and said, isn't
Speaker 1: the point of an elopement to do it without people.
Speaker 1: I think it was Matt and Emily that were butting
Speaker 1: heads the most, because Matt kept going at Emily and saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you got engaged to your husband very quickly after meeting him.
Speaker 1: But she was like, well, I hadn't just been proposed
Speaker 1: to twice or had a one year old child yet,
Speaker 1: which was a bit of a burn to Tammy was
Speaker 1: also made it very clear that that's clearly what Tammy
Speaker 1: and Matt are saying behind the sisters backs, She's done
Speaker 1: the same thing.
Speaker 2: It did seem like Tammy's.
Speaker 1: Sisters must have gotten through to the couple a little
Speaker 1: bit because despite the elopement being booked in, Tammy changed
Speaker 1: her mind.
Speaker 3: He said, I don't want a loathing because it had
Speaker 3: it booked in in like a month later. And then
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I'm going to propose, make it
Speaker 3: more like romantic, and then she was like, nah, we're
Speaker 3: not a looking I want to do it.
Speaker 1: Wait. Despite Tammy's sisters really pushing for them to slow
Speaker 1: things down, Matt was still very adamant that he wanted
Speaker 1: to propose.
Speaker 2: So he explained in this interview that he locked in.
Speaker 1: A time to visit Amy and Emily at their skin clinic,
Speaker 1: and he had the ring with him because he was
Speaker 1: there to seek their approval. I mean, it was so
Speaker 1: obvious that they weren't cool with the thing of the
Speaker 1: whole time, and her absence spoke volumes, and she said
Speaker 1: it was her way of giving Matt a big fat no.
Speaker 2: This is what Emily said.
Speaker 5: When you guys said you were getting engaged. I was
Speaker 5: like he he must be that delusional. I was really
Speaker 5: concerned because she is, like she's spontaneous, and she's a
Speaker 5: fun spirit, and she likes to do what she wants
Speaker 5: to do. But for a guy to come in and
Speaker 5: think that's okay when she's got a one year old, like,
Speaker 5: I thought that was a big red flag.
Speaker 1: It's pretty evident that Emily hates Matt's guts. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what I took from this interview. And it was
Speaker 1: almost like she was saying that he was too irresponsible.
Speaker 2: To be a stepfather.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And things got even worse when Emily then issued
Speaker 1: a warning to Matt.
Speaker 5: I feel like I like Matt as a person, Like
Speaker 5: I think he's nice. Yeah, I think he's immature. I
Speaker 5: think he's got to do a lot of growing up.
Speaker 5: Like you're very immature, but I think you're a nice person,
Speaker 5: Like you've got a good heart, Like you've got good
Speaker 5: intentions with her. But I do still feel like it
Speaker 5: could be a longer engagement. But like we get along,
Speaker 5: there's no beef, there's love, no beef.
Speaker 3: After this.
Speaker 5: Immature in what way you're like some of the stuff
Speaker 5: you say, I can't think of things up to my head.
Speaker 5: That's like a little teenager boy would say something like that,
Speaker 5: like a little baby, a big baby.
Speaker 1: You're right, I.
Speaker 5: Just hope you know marriage is a serious thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it is actually a serious thing. And like I hope
Speaker 5: you don't make any mistakes, Like I really pray and
Speaker 5: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention
Speaker 3: of hurting Tammy.
Speaker 1: I totally get the baby comment after hearing that say
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna hurt Tammy. That is my absolute
Speaker 1: it when people speaking baby voices, It's like he was
Speaker 1: this little boy who was being told off. Look, the
Speaker 1: biggest issue for me, and it appears the sisters.
Speaker 2: Is Matt's rush. It just seems like everything is such
Speaker 2: a rush. I don't get what it has to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he really love her, why can't they
Speaker 2: wait two years to get married.
Speaker 1: These comments from Emily are just so explosive because what
Speaker 1: she's essentially saying is that she is concerned that Matt
Speaker 1: is going to cheat on Tammy. I don't know if
Speaker 1: she's sayings by giving him a warning saying you better
Speaker 1: not hurt her.
Speaker 2: Well, they were obviously.
Speaker 1: Pissed off after that grand Prix DM that got expired. Well,
Speaker 1: that is totally what this is in reference to. And
Speaker 1: I think she's very concerned that when the reality of
Speaker 1: marriage sets in for Matt, you know, once all these
Speaker 1: festivities are over, that he will become bored and unhappy,
Speaker 1: particularly when he's becoming a new step dad to three kids.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're also trying to get her on
Speaker 1: the record like before they get married. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like we were right. I feel like they probably had
Speaker 1: a fight with Tammy beforehand and they just can't stand
Speaker 1: sitting there and blowing smoke up this guy's ass. But
Speaker 1: I how did an air Like if this was recorded
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, surely Tammy would have heard it
Speaker 1: and said, please don't air this.
Speaker 2: This is too damaging in.
Speaker 1: Terms of PR. This is the worst PR this couple
Speaker 1: could have just weeks out from their wedding.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Emily wasn't glowing of Matt either when it came to
Speaker 1: discussing how he was with her kids, because online there's
Speaker 1: been a lot of discussion like, oh, he looks like
Speaker 1: quite a good step dad. Because that's what I took
Speaker 1: from all the tiktoks they do.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, God on them.
Speaker 1: He's having fun with the children's taking them to the
Speaker 1: movies because we saw that he and Wolf both shave
Speaker 1: their heads, and everyone's been saying how much Wolf looks
Speaker 1: like mad and they seem to have quite a cute
Speaker 1: little connection and when maybe he's on their level, maybe well,
Speaker 1: Emily said, oh, I haven't really seen him much with
Speaker 1: the kids, and she confessed that the first time that
Speaker 1: Matt hung out with the whole family, she purposely tried
Speaker 1: to make it appear extra chaotic with the kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feb that.
Speaker 1: Was hilarious, because she said she even went as far
Speaker 1: as banging the table when he wasn't watching. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: the kids are pretty good today, They're not that noisy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was clearly a test, and she said that Matt
Speaker 1: looked like he'd seen a ghost. I just couldn't help
Speaker 1: but feel like Emily in particular, was trying to insinuate
Speaker 1: that Matt was a bit of a gold digger because
Speaker 1: he stands to gain lot from marrying Tammy. She is
Speaker 1: reportedly worth fifty million dollars, and unless they sign a prenup,
Speaker 1: Matt could potentially claim half of her fortune if they
Speaker 1: get divorced, and I don't think they have prenups in Australia.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some legalities around it though, And I
Speaker 1: just think ultimately this is why they are so suspicious
Speaker 1: of him rushing into this, because there seems to have
Speaker 1: been a lot of love bombing from the start, and
Speaker 1: Tammy had been telling her sisters that she was in
Speaker 1: love and had met her soulmate and that they're going
Speaker 1: to be together forever, and they're probably just thinking, well,
Speaker 1: if she was worth nothing, would you be rushing into marry.
Speaker 1: I don't think that Matt is a gold digger. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's why he's after Tammy. I just think,
Speaker 1: as a sister said, he's in this way, so you
Speaker 1: don't think that her lifestyle has anything to do with
Speaker 1: the fact that he wants to lock things down quickly.
Speaker 1: It's when you think of a gold digger, you generally
Speaker 1: think of somebody who's going after some like old person
Speaker 1: that has nothing going for them, like Tammy Henbro has
Speaker 1: a hell of a.
Speaker 2: Lot going for her rather than matters.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like, I think he's in awe of
Speaker 1: Tammy because she's gorgeous, she's super successful. Yes, she has
Speaker 1: a lot of money and probably a lifestyle that he
Speaker 1: is quite envious of or.
Speaker 2: Wants to be.
Speaker 1: What's the point of getting married so quickly?
Speaker 2: Like couldn't you just.
Speaker 1: Because I think he's being immature and he's in awe
Speaker 1: of her because of how famous and successful and talented
Speaker 1: she is.
Speaker 2: To be honest, it sounds like he is very immature.
Speaker 1: But also I love this part of the podcast because
Speaker 1: the sisters pointed out that they found it particularly concerning
Speaker 1: the way that Matt was so quick to call Tammy's
Speaker 1: house our house.
Speaker 2: That's what kissed me off. Here's what they said.
Speaker 5: And you were talking about I think the New Year's
Speaker 5: here party, and you were like, are you going to
Speaker 5: come to like our house that we're hosting our party?
Speaker 2: And you literally just met just like just.
Speaker 5: Like a few times, like ah, like I'm okay, I
Speaker 5: get you guys, Like, oh house, it's the first time
Speaker 5: we've been to this house.
Speaker 3: I was still staying in a hotel.
Speaker 2: This is so uncomfortable to listen to.
Speaker 1: It is so clear that he has totally rubbed this
Speaker 1: family up the wrong way, and his comments just really
Speaker 1: seemed to lack awareness, because it's like he's sending the message, Oh,
Speaker 1: this two story mansion is already mine, even though it's
Speaker 1: like the first time he's fucking been there.
Speaker 2: Well, there was a huge red flag.
Speaker 1: I think I would have loved to have been a
Speaker 1: fly on the wall during the car ride home between
Speaker 1: Amy and Emily, because they would have been bitching their
Speaker 1: faces off, Like if this was me and I'd met
Speaker 1: your boyfriend, Sophie and he was calling your house his,
Speaker 1: that would infuriate me so much. Oh totally, there would
Speaker 1: be so much bitching going on behind the scenes. It's
Speaker 1: probably not a great move as well when he said
Speaker 1: that they were in fact invited to the party, like,
Speaker 1: of course they were invited to the party. All the
Speaker 1: whole vibe that I get from this is that Emily
Speaker 1: and Amy and the other sisters potentially have made it
Speaker 1: very clear to Tammy what they think about Matt, and
Speaker 1: Tammy is probably wanting to prove them wrong by marrying him,
Speaker 1: by saying, look all worked out, Like, not only is
Speaker 1: she wanting to prove a family wrong, but she's wanting
Speaker 1: to prove all of the trolls wrong. And I just
Speaker 1: think she would have been beyond livid to listen to
Speaker 1: this episode back because it just plays into what trolls
Speaker 1: have been saying, and somewhat, please make this a reality
Speaker 1: show their wedding, Like could they make it like newly
Speaker 1: Weds or something? Because this would be sensational to watch.
Speaker 1: It's got the whole Kim Kardashi and Chris Humphreys vibe.
Speaker 2: Because maybe it won't last for very long as well.
Speaker 1: The only reason I can think of that Matt would
Speaker 1: have wanted this episode to see the light of day
Speaker 1: is to gain exposure for his podcast.
Speaker 2: But interestingly it.
Speaker 1: Hasn't been picked up by the mainstream media yet.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I first heard about this podcast through TikTok because the
Speaker 1: Where's Your head At podcast put up this clip and
Speaker 1: it was where Emily was warning Matt. I was like,
Speaker 1: fucking hell, with no context, this looks even worse. Reckon
Speaker 1: Anna was like, look, mate, we're gonna have to put
Speaker 1: it up because our podcast needs some extraviews.
Speaker 6: You knew what was coming.
Speaker 1: In a much anticipated podcast episode, Lucy Jackson has spilled
Speaker 1: the tea on why she dramatically broke up with her
Speaker 1: boyfriend Sam a day after he moved in. Lucy announced
Speaker 1: a breakup on TikTok two weeks ago, sharing that she
Speaker 1: was looking for a new roommate. She then confirmed in
Speaker 1: the comment section that Sam had cheated on her.
Speaker 2: However, we did not know all of the dirty details
Speaker 2: until now.
Speaker 1: This has been popping up all over my TikTok because
Speaker 1: people have been taking the most explosive parts of this
Speaker 1: episode and showing their reaction whilst they're just doing everyday task,
Speaker 1: Like some girl was getting her nails done and was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it did not disappoint. Now, this episode was.
Speaker 2: Entitled I Got cheated on.
Speaker 1: Never trust a boy in mo cup vans, and this
Speaker 1: is quite iconic because she explained on her TikTok how
Speaker 1: low cut vans have been on her eke list for
Speaker 1: years and these are the shoes he chose to wear
Speaker 1: on their first day. Isn't it funny how sometimes you
Speaker 1: just know in your gut, like no, ahead of time,
Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a fucking dick. There's some
Speaker 1: little red flags along the way. Now. They started the
Speaker 1: podcast by prefacing that they didn't want their listeners to
Speaker 1: go and leave Sam hate comments and that they don't
Speaker 1: condone bullying in any way. Lucy also said that no
Speaker 1: one is perfect and that she's made mistakes in her life.
Speaker 2: And I think that this is in reference to rumors.
Speaker 1: Which have since surfaced about her allegedly being unfaithful to
Speaker 1: her past partner. I got the vibe throughout this podcast
Speaker 1: that she's concerned that Sam is going to start spreading
Speaker 1: vicious rumors about her. I always find it amusing when
Speaker 1: people have to put these warnings in at the start,
Speaker 1: like please don't give him hate, but then they creat
Speaker 1: an absolute down on him, like obviously their listeners are
Speaker 1: going to go after Sam. I reckon that must have
Speaker 1: been really cathartic for her to record this. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't blame them for going in hard on him.
Speaker 1: Sounds like absolute dickhach. She just sounds like a douchebag
Speaker 1: from this. So she started by explaining their relationship timeline,
Speaker 1: as it was quite pivotal to the story.
Speaker 2: So just a quick refresher. They met in feb this year.
Speaker 1: They went on a first date and saw each other
Speaker 1: for two weeks until Lucy called things off when she
Speaker 1: went to America for a month. And she said that
Speaker 1: she called things off because she was uncertain about him
Speaker 1: she wasn't really into him now. When she got back
Speaker 1: from America, they picked things back up straight away, and
Speaker 1: during the month of April, they weren't really official, but
Speaker 1: she said that they were still seeing each other five
Speaker 1: times a week, and they started meeting each other's friends
Speaker 1: and discussing meeting each other's family members. I'm sorry, if
Speaker 1: you're catching up with someone five times a week, you've
Speaker 1: got to put a title that that's official.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, in May, that's when things became really serious and
Speaker 1: they planned to meet up in Europe and they also
Speaker 1: discussed moving in with each other after the trip, and
Speaker 1: Lucy explained that they were very much together, but because
Speaker 1: she's been so busy with work, they were like ships
Speaker 1: in the night, so they spent a lot of time apart,
Speaker 1: but it sounded like they were official, and she went
Speaker 1: on to say what a great time they had together
Speaker 1: in Europe, and when they returned that they exchanged I
Speaker 1: love yous and this was when he was then set
Speaker 1: to move in. Yeah, now let's get into what actually
Speaker 1: went down. So he moved in on the Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: by Wednesday night she was kicking him out. So on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Lucy and Sam went out to dinner, and they met
Speaker 1: up with some of his friends that she hadn't met before,
Speaker 1: and they were supposed to be going to a wedding
Speaker 1: together the next day. Now, when they got home, she
Speaker 1: decided to check her indirect and hidden DMS. And she
Speaker 1: said that this is a bit of a toxic trade
Speaker 1: of hers and she religiously checks them. It's not because
Speaker 1: she was concerned about anything. She just does it all
Speaker 1: the time. And in there there was a message from
Speaker 1: a girl claiming to have slept with Sam in May.
Speaker 1: Here's what Lucy said.
Speaker 6: There was a message from a girl pretty much saying
Speaker 6: that she had an encounter when in May with him.
Speaker 6: Should I call it an encounter, like I don't know
Speaker 6: what do you even? Yeah, like slipping him in May?
Speaker 1: And that when.
Speaker 6: We were in Europe, he was texting her and calling
Speaker 6: her and trying to like essentially, you know, we were
Speaker 6: from Afar, from a music festival in Belgium. I go,
Speaker 6: surely there was better things to be doing at that
Speaker 6: point in time broke and so I had a moment
Speaker 6: and I was like WHOA. And you know when everything
Speaker 6: kind of just like spins in front of you and
Speaker 6: you're like, what the fuck's going on, Like I was
Speaker 6: literally my undies, Like I was just like, you know,
Speaker 6: not prepared, and I just said, get the fuck out
Speaker 6: of my house. And obviously a lot of shock. He
Speaker 6: was very shocked. And I just get the fuck out
Speaker 6: of my house. And then obviously I said, do not
Speaker 6: make me raise my voice.
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: And he you know why you said that? Yeah, I
Speaker 6: showed him shod Yeah, right, And obviously he went pale
Speaker 6: as a ghost, as you would when you get caught
Speaker 6: out for that kind of shit.
Speaker 1: So Lucy referred to this girl as girlfriend number one,
Speaker 1: and she explained that this girl had had a long
Speaker 1: history with Sam, so things had been back and forth
Speaker 1: between the pair, and they'd known each other for years
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of wounds now. Girlfriend number
Speaker 1: one said she wasn't aware Sam was with Lucy when
Speaker 1: they'd slept together. He also told her he was going
Speaker 1: to Europe with a friend called Lucy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a.
Speaker 1: Stab in the heart to be referred to as someone's friend. Now,
Speaker 1: despite not having a huge amount of proof, Lucy instantly
Speaker 1: believed her and Sam started to go into full damage control.
Speaker 2: He allegedly started.
Speaker 1: Messaging girlfriend number one be her not to say any
Speaker 1: more to Lucy, which is instant guilt. Now, this is
Speaker 1: where girlfriend number two enters the chat. So she had
Speaker 1: come up a lot in their relationship, as they hadn't
Speaker 1: broken up long before Lucy and Sam started dating, and
Speaker 1: there were numerous instances where they wouldn't go to certain
Speaker 1: coffee shops because she was going to be there.
Speaker 2: Red flag.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sam had spoken quite ill of her on
Speaker 1: several occasions, and Lucy said that that should have been
Speaker 1: a red flag, but she that is so true. What
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Should exes talk nicely?
Speaker 2: I think about each other?
Speaker 1: I think you should always be somewhat respectful because obviously
Speaker 1: you were with that person for a reason, you'd love
Speaker 1: them at some stage of your life, and that they
Speaker 1: were They're always going to have been a part of
Speaker 1: your life. Don't you think it's a huge red flag
Speaker 1: when a guy's like, oh my ex was crazy and.
Speaker 2: You're like, well, did you make them crazy?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean it's different if someone has actually treated you awfully. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if someone's cheated on you, you can say that they're a pig. Now,
Speaker 1: Lucy brought up girlfriend number two on the phone with
Speaker 1: Sam after they split, and after a lot of back
Speaker 1: and forth, Sam admitted that he did sleep with girlfriend
Speaker 1: number two in April, and that was when Lucy was
Speaker 1: in Bali for her birthday, so this was around the
Speaker 1: time that they were hanging out a lot.
Speaker 2: They weren't quite official.
Speaker 1: It's pretty random because Lucy said that one of her
Speaker 1: male friends ended up pursuing girlfriend number two whilst she
Speaker 1: and Sam were going out, and she told the friend
Speaker 1: that Sam was bad news. That's clever of Lucy to
Speaker 1: push the friend towards girlfriend number two. Let's get her
Speaker 1: out of the picture, Let's get her with a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I don't think she did. I think it was all
Speaker 1: just pretty random. Now, following these revelations, Lucy threw all
Speaker 1: of Sam's possessions on the side of the road and
Speaker 1: told him that he had until the afternoon to pick
Speaker 1: them up or she'd take them to the tip. Now.
Speaker 1: Because he moved in, he left three surfboards in her garage,
Speaker 1: and she said that she contemplated running them over but
Speaker 1: thought better of it, so instead she left a note
Speaker 1: on top of his possession which said you are a loser,
Speaker 1: and she also decided to keep his ugliest jacket, which
Speaker 1: he is obsessed with, and she said she's planning on
Speaker 1: throwing it into the canal in front of her house.
Speaker 2: So that's a bit of a farewell sign.
Speaker 1: I would have let him keep the ugly jacket because
Speaker 1: my theory is that he'll keep wearing that on dates
Speaker 1: and keep repelling people. Now, back when Lucy shared the
Speaker 1: initial breakup news on her TikTok, this is when girl
Speaker 1: number three popped up and Lucy referred to this girl
Speaker 1: as random girl. So this girl slid into Lucy's GMS
Speaker 1: and informed her that she'd slept with.
Speaker 2: Her ex earlier in the year.
Speaker 1: Now, this didn't bother Lucy as much as it could
Speaker 1: have been before they met, But what bothered her was
Speaker 1: a text message exchange that they had in Europe. So
Speaker 1: this was at the same music festival where he was
Speaker 1: texting girlfriend number one. It was actually this text message
Speaker 1: exchange that Lucy said made her feel the most sick, and.
Speaker 2: She decided to read it out word for word on
Speaker 2: the podcast. Here's what it's say it So.
Speaker 6: I'm going to read you some of the messages that
Speaker 6: he was sending this gum. So, how's dating on the
Speaker 6: Gold coast going and this is him asking her, and
Speaker 6: she goes pretty non existent?
Speaker 1: What about you?
Speaker 2: Oh really, I feel like there's a.
Speaker 6: Lot of single boys getting around And then she goes, well,
Speaker 6: if you know anyone, let me know. How's your dating life?
Speaker 6: And he goes, ha ha, I'll keep an ear out. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm actually dating someone at the moment. It's going pretty well.
Speaker 6: I guess I'll keep you updated ha ha oh and
Speaker 6: she goes, you guess that doesn't sound promising and he goes,
Speaker 6: ha ha, it's going well, can always be better, you know,
Speaker 6: and she goes how so and he goes, I don't know,
Speaker 6: just to figure a speech, ha ha, but your dating
Speaker 6: life I seen, which I also hate when people just
Speaker 6: say seen and said a soul. Get some fucking grammar.
Speaker 6: I seen, you posted a pick with a boy the
Speaker 6: other day? Was this something or just a random And
Speaker 6: she goes someone that's on Instagram once a week on
Speaker 6: his iPad, fucking keeping tabs on everyone did I I
Speaker 6: don't know who would have been? Oh, maybe someone you
Speaker 6: worked with and she goes maybe and he goes so
Speaker 6: secretive haha.
Speaker 1: Nicki played such a supporting role in this podcast, but
Speaker 1: her comments were absolutely iconic, like her going on about
Speaker 1: or him on his iPad noticing everything that's happening on
Speaker 1: this girl's face.
Speaker 2: But I was in absolute fits of laughter. I can
Speaker 2: see why she'd.
Speaker 1: Be most offended by this text message exchange, because it's
Speaker 1: like as if Lucy's just a nobody or nothing, non existent,
Speaker 1: but you're literally moving into her house in a few
Speaker 1: weeks time, you dickhare Well. I have to explain Nikki's
Speaker 1: original iPad comment because Lucy said that there were so
Speaker 1: many things that were off about Sam that she should
Speaker 1: have realized, and one was his use of an iPad.
Speaker 2: SOI guy uses an ipay claimed.
Speaker 1: That he only used Instagram on his iPad, and she
Speaker 1: believed him because she thought that he was this like artsy,
Speaker 1: wholesome guy who didn't like social media. But it's quite
Speaker 1: clear that he was trying to cover his tracks. Now.
Speaker 1: The other clue that things weren't quite right was that
Speaker 1: he had a weird handle on Instagram, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: his real name or What seemed to puzzle Lucy the
Speaker 1: most was how he thought he was going to get
Speaker 1: away with it.
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what she said.
Speaker 6: When you jumped in your car and drove your bloody's
Speaker 6: stupid car with your stupid campervan on top. Yuck over
Speaker 6: to one of these girls' houses knowing who I was
Speaker 6: online based on what you already knew you. It's not
Speaker 6: like you just stumble. It's like, oh, I didn't know you,
Speaker 6: Like you knew what was coming. Yeah, Like you knew
Speaker 6: what the repercussions would be, and yet you still chose
Speaker 6: to do it.
Speaker 1: She has a really good point, and this is why
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for the guy, because he would
Speaker 1: know the type of personality that Lucy is that she
Speaker 1: would be very forthcoming to share this with her podcast
Speaker 1: listeners and do a whole expose.
Speaker 3: Eight.
Speaker 1: This guy is going to find it very difficult to
Speaker 1: date moving forward. He's probably going to run back to
Speaker 1: girlfriend number two, who hasn't reached out to Lucy, because
Speaker 1: it's probably the only person who's going to be able
Speaker 1: to get at this stage. Oh my god, I've just
Speaker 1: realized I've been in the same the same shirt all week.
Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has revealed the much anticipated results of her
Speaker 1: Fox I lived three weeks after going under the knife
Speaker 1: in Turkey until now, the thirty year old has been
Speaker 1: hiding her eyes behind surgery bandages and black glasses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's even had paparazzi following her every move to try
Speaker 1: and get a glimpse of the results. And it's clear
Speaker 1: that she has been inundated by followers asking her why
Speaker 1: she won't just show her eyes, because she responded in
Speaker 1: a Q and A saying that she can't be fucked
Speaker 1: with people's opinions right now and that the healing will
Speaker 1: take three to six months.
Speaker 2: And to her point, she.
Speaker 1: Posted a photo of her nose a few weeks after
Speaker 1: her nose job, which she got probably five years ago,
Speaker 1: and said, look how dumb my nose looked when I
Speaker 1: first got it done. Like I said, the healing process
Speaker 1: ain't fun for me. I even hated my boobs when
Speaker 1: I first got the tape off. I had a meltdown
Speaker 1: about it on my YouTube video. Loll you gotta trust
Speaker 1: the process. Well. She also revealed that she didn't love
Speaker 1: how the fox I lift looked straight after surgery, because
Speaker 1: she said it was very swollen and it looked uneven.
Speaker 1: But she knows that she just needs to wait and
Speaker 1: be patient to see the actual results, and that's what
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying online, especially in
Speaker 1: our Facebook community, that you can't judge it now. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it seemed like she was forced to come out with
Speaker 1: her results earlier than she would have liked because she
Speaker 1: had to meet and greet with fans last Friday.
Speaker 2: Was that for that new drink she's got? I think so?
Speaker 2: She was dressed in a police outfit. I'm not quite
Speaker 2: sure what that had to do with it.
Speaker 1: Surely she could have worn sunglasses. Well, I assumed she
Speaker 1: didn't want fans posting photos that she had no control over. First,
Speaker 1: she wanted to be the one that got the chance
Speaker 1: to show the results, maybe in the lighting that she liked,
Speaker 1: and she ended up sharing a video where she turned
Speaker 1: from side to side to show her new look, but
Speaker 1: she still had a lot of heavy face tape around
Speaker 1: her temples and a lot of bruising, and she wrote
Speaker 1: she couldn't be happier with the results and tagged her doctor,
Speaker 1: thanking him. She then added a big fuck you to everyone,
Speaker 1: saying I fucked my face up because I legit just
Speaker 1: leveled it up. Actually, nothing wrong in wanting to feel
Speaker 1: and look good.
Speaker 2: Do what makes you happy, queens.
Speaker 1: What worried me, though, is that. Following that post, she
Speaker 1: then started listing more things that she wanted to do
Speaker 1: to her face.
Speaker 2: So she said that she.
Speaker 1: Wanted to straighten her bottom teeth and for reference, she
Speaker 1: literally has the most stunning beautiful teeth, like to the
Speaker 1: point where people think that her teeth are veneers, they're
Speaker 1: that nice theirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're natural.
Speaker 1: So it just sounds like she's ticked off the Fox
Speaker 1: eye lift and now gone, what else can I do?
Speaker 1: I'm still not happy? Yeah, and that's what's so troubling
Speaker 1: about this now. She ended up posting the full results
Speaker 1: on TikTok, where she had removed the tape and she
Speaker 1: did a transition video, so she was wearing daggy clothes
Speaker 1: and she had her eyes hidden behind these new glasses
Speaker 1: that she's wearing. They're sort of very like court pretty glasses.
Speaker 1: And then she revealed her all glammed up with her
Speaker 1: eyes front and center. And I have to say, they
Speaker 1: looked dramatically different. And again this is because it is
Speaker 1: only three weeks after surgery. They looked really defined and
Speaker 1: almond like, and a few of her followers were complimentary
Speaker 1: in the comments section, with one saying, oh, they're a
Speaker 1: vibe and you look like Bella had did. However, the
Speaker 1: majority of comments weren't so complimentary, and there was an
Speaker 1: influx of people saying that she looked like Joscelyn Wilderestein
Speaker 1: and she's with that. She's known as cat Lady. Oh
Speaker 1: so she is the socialite who is known for getting
Speaker 1: so much cosmetic surgery she now resembles a cat. Another
Speaker 1: person said no, why did you do that, which got
Speaker 1: over twelve hundred likes.
Speaker 2: Whilst another said, please tell me that you can reverse this.
Speaker 1: If I were Sky, I think I would have taken
Speaker 1: a social media hiatus for three months and come back
Speaker 1: when the eyes were looking how I wanted them to. Yeh,
Speaker 1: it's her career. She's closing followers. I had a look
Speaker 1: on social blade on Instagram. In the past thirty days,
Speaker 1: she's actually lost seven hundred.
Speaker 2: And fifty followers.
Speaker 1: And I would have thought, if you're posting this type
Speaker 1: of content that people are talking about people are concerned
Speaker 1: about it, you would think you'd be gaining more. But
Speaker 1: I think maybe people are disturbed by the.
Speaker 2: Lengths of she's gone. I've been concerned about it.
Speaker 1: I think because she gained a lot of followers when
Speaker 1: she won. I'm a celeb, and that would have been
Speaker 1: a very mainstream crowd who were probably quite taken back
Speaker 1: by this. And don't get me wrong, I actually think
Speaker 1: sky Wheatley is a nice person deep down. She has
Speaker 1: had a lot of controversies and she's definitely put her
Speaker 1: foot in it, but I don't think she has a
Speaker 1: bad bone in her body.
Speaker 2: But I'm just concerned about her. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's really difficult to watch this because it's quite apparent
Speaker 1: that she has body dysmorphia, and she said that on
Speaker 1: a number of occasions. Now, she hit back at some
Speaker 1: of the people in the comments section, saying, guys, I'm
Speaker 1: three weeks post off. It's gonna look crazy whilst I'm healing.
Speaker 1: But I love it. Well, at least she's saying she
Speaker 1: likes it because you know, as she said, she didn't
Speaker 1: like her nose job at first, she didn't like her
Speaker 1: boob job at first. Yeah, but maybe she's just saying
Speaker 1: that publicly to save face. There's also been persistent rumors,
Speaker 1: which have been fanned by The Daily Mail, that Sky
Speaker 1: Wheatley was set to replace Sophie Monk as the host
Speaker 1: of Love Island Australia, but due to this surgery, the
Speaker 1: offer has been taken off the table. So a source
Speaker 1: told the publication that Sophie was set to work on
Speaker 1: other projects at nine and Sky would be a really
Speaker 1: good fit for Love Island and this is off the
Speaker 1: back of a huge popularity after winning I'm.
Speaker 2: A Celeb Now.
Speaker 1: The Insider claims that Nine ultimately decided not to work
Speaker 1: with Sky after she drastically changed the way she looks.
Speaker 1: So The Daily Mail quoted the source who said, the
Speaker 1: problem with changing your appearance and even your hair color
Speaker 1: is that your brand is often wrapped up in a
Speaker 1: look you were famous for. I don't think Nine was
Speaker 1: unconfident with her ability to host the show. I think
Speaker 1: it was just the look they were hiring her for
Speaker 1: has changed now. Sky ended up responding to these rumors
Speaker 1: by posting a video of her lip syncing to Suprena
Speaker 1: Carpenter with the caption when you get dropped from hosting
Speaker 1: Love Island because you got scary surgery and added Okay,
Speaker 1: who's in charge of this clickbait?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: She went on to confirm in the comment section that
Speaker 1: they never asked her to host, but was unsure if
Speaker 1: it's something they spoke about behind closed Doors. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if this was the case, because if you
Speaker 1: think about all of the hosting opportunities that came Abbe
Speaker 1: Chatfield's way after she won, I'm a slept Yeah, and
Speaker 1: On Sky's name would be out there also because Sky
Speaker 1: recently attended the Logis and we spoke in that episode
Speaker 1: how the Logis is a bit of an audition for
Speaker 1: the roles that you want, So.
Speaker 2: It's that she's out there.
Speaker 1: I mean she mentioned that she wants to be cast
Speaker 1: on Big Brother, which would be a massive win for
Speaker 1: the show. The thing is a lot of her fans
Speaker 1: said in the comment section the only reason they'd start
Speaker 1: watching Love Island Australia is if Sky was on there,
Speaker 1: so it wouldn't be an entirely bad move. Well, I
Speaker 1: think that's all we've got time for today. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Outspoken. Don't forget to
Speaker 1: follow us on TikTok and also on Instagram at Outspoken
Speaker 1: Underscore the Underscore Podcast, and you can also follow Sophie
Speaker 1: and I on Instagram and TikTok. Sophie and I have
Speaker 1: started posting a bit more regularly on TikTok. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: bit more personal content. I've been sharing a lot about
Speaker 1: my wedding.
Speaker 2: I've got my.
Speaker 1: Wedding dress try on on there because I always love
Speaker 1: seeing that pervy stuff from other people and I don't
Speaker 1: really want to flood all of my friends and family
Speaker 1: who are probably not interested in seeing it. And you've
Speaker 1: got a few Balley recommendations on there as well as
Speaker 1: a stocking video, do some cooking videos, and we really
Speaker 1: want to get into Christmas content as well, so we've
Speaker 1: been going every Christmas doll we've been going to.
Speaker 2: We've been doing a bit of a whole from there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, this episode was recorded on the traditional land of
Speaker 1: the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains.
Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.