1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: Amy Torba and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro's 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: sisters have labeled her fiance Matt Zakowski as an immature baby, 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Lucy Jackson has spilled the tea on her breakup, and 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley reveals dramatic fox eye results. 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: The first Katie Perry's. 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Grand Final performance is going viral on TikTok and it 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: has even made headlines in the US after a dancer 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: suffered a costume mishap. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: I love this story so much. 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Is the story that keeps on giving because this mishap 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: happened when Katie was singing Teenage Dream and her set 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: had this really futuristic sort of space age vibe to it. 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: But then at the same time, it was very early 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: two thousands, and she wore Speed Dealer sunnies and had 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: this blue gladiator esque breastplate on with white shorts and 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: these deconstructed combat pants. What did you think of the outfit? 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: She looked amazing, and she was also looking very bronze 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: because she ended up getting a faked tan by Beck 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Judd and Nadia Bartel's business, which is spray oz. Yeah. 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: I saw the TikTok of the woman who actually performed 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: the spray tan on Katie Perry, and it just made 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: me think how odd it must be for celebrities to 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: have spraytns done, because you just know everyone would be 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: talking about it, or you'd they'd be. 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: Taking everything in. 28 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: You're pernalizing you. They're getting into this mishap. So it 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: happened with one of her backup dances, and they were 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: dressed in these metallic spacesuits and they were holding oversized 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: foil balloons, so they were using them as props to 32 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: dance with, and things didn't go exactly to plan for 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: one dancer whose balloon popped mid performance and instantly deflated. 34 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: So this stood out so much in the sea of 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: over one hundred and fifty dances, and to the dancer's credit, 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: they carried on trying their best to dance with this 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: deflated balloon and not detract from the performance. That're the 38 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: worst thing ever, because every time there's a huge event 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: on like the AFL Grand Final, you just know there 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: are the armed spectators at home waiting for something like 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: this to happen, and it didn't take long for this 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: clip to go viral, and the consensus online was that 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: the deflated balloon looked like a goon sack. So it 44 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: was a very patriotic moment for Ossie's and someone on 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: TikTok had an absolute banger comment. They said, do you 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: wanting to start again? 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: Of course, in reference to her song Firework. 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Well, it's not the first time that one of Katie's 50 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: dancers has distracted the crowd from her performance, because during 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: Katie's Super Bowl halftime show in twenty fifteen, there was 52 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: a guy dressed as a shark and he didn't know 53 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: any of the dance moves property he was so distracting, 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: and the US Weekly have compared the balloon incident to this. Now, 55 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: the talk of the town has been Katy Perry's pay 56 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: packet because it was five million dollars. Do you think 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: seven songs is worth five million dollars? Well, initially everyone 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: was saying she was only going to perform five songs, 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: So everyone was like, ge a million dollars per song, 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: that's a huge amount of money. And when I first 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: heard it, I also thought, wow, that is a lot. 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: But it's also being reported that the AFL was originally 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: after the Rolling Stones and reportedly they wanted twenty million 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: dollars to sing four songs. 65 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: So five million in the scheme of things doesn't sound 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: that bad. 68 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: And I think she deserved it because it's not just 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: for the one performance. 70 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: There would have been a lot of effort going into 71 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: the preparation. Also the fact that she's built herself up 72 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: to be a sensation. 73 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: She's not really the preparation. 74 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: It's more than twenty plus years or I don't know 75 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: how long has Katy Perry been around for probably about fifteen. 76 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: But also for her to come out and have that 77 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: much impact, Like everyone is saying that this is the 78 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: best performance they've seen at an AFL Grand Final. I mean, 79 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: but two to advocate summed it up pretty well. They said, 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: credit to the headhn shows at the AFL. That was 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: fucking awesome. Katie Perry has today vindicated the decision to 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: pay her fat stacks to come and perform at. 83 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: The AFL Grand Final. 84 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: All I could think was how much would Taylor Swift 85 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: have charged? 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question. I have absolutely no idea. 87 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I also think though it is really good publicity for 88 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Katie's show because she's obviously coming to Australia. After seeing 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: her perform at the AFO Grand Final, I was like, 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: I want a ticket to this. I have been playing 91 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: her songs NonStop in my car. What did you think 92 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: of Tina Arena popping up during I Kissed a Girl. 93 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: It was a bit of. 94 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: A letdown for me, probably because she's not really in 95 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: my age demo. I was thinking maybe a Kylie Minogue. 96 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: That being said, a lot of publications are saying that 97 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: Tina Arena out shown Katy Perry oh vocally, I mean, 98 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: she was amazing in change, But I just thought they 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: were going to kiss at one point during the song. 100 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Well that's what they were sort of alluding to at 101 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: one point, because I saw it on TikTok. The clip 102 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: popped up and they almost looked like Jess and Lisa 103 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: from the Veronicas when they were back to bat. I 104 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: said that I didn't see that now. They would have 105 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: been a great inclusion. My partner and I said, what 106 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: about Delta. I think Delta would have been amazing. 107 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: See you guys hate me. 108 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro's sisters have made it clear they don't approve 109 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: of her fiance Matt Sakowski, just weeks out from their. 110 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: Byron Bay wedding. 111 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 1: Appearing on Matt's podcast, Emily and Amy Hembro labeled the 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: reality star and immature baby and admitted they had massive 113 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: concerns about the relationship. This episode was an absolute blood bath, 114 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: and I. 115 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: Must have been. I loved every second of it. 116 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: I still know how this episode was allowed to air. 117 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: It began by Anna asking Amy and Emily what they 118 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: first thought of Matt, and she did preface that they 119 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: could be honest, and they were. 120 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: They were very honest. 121 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: It's clear that they weren't interested in giving some sort 122 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: of pr response and they went into what they really 123 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: thought of him. But it's kind of on brand for 124 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: the Hembro sisters to do that. Yeah, after listening to this, 125 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: I just thought, why did they never bring out the 126 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: reality show because I would have loved to see all 127 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: of this playing out in real time now. Emily said 128 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: she had massive concerns about Matt right off the bat 129 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: and that she didn't want to meet him and said 130 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: it was too fresh now. That comment was in reference 131 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: to the fact that Tammy had only called off her 132 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: engagement to a former Ironman fiance, Matt, less than a 133 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: year before meeting Matt two point zero. Yeah, you could 134 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: tell that their sisters were hoping that Tammy was going 135 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: to chill out for a bit and not really get 136 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: into any serious relationships. It is pretty crazy when you 137 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: look at the timeline, because Matt Paul and Tammy got 138 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: engaged in November twenty twenty one, and she then gave 139 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: birth to their daughter, Posey in June twenty twenty two, 140 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: and it's reported that they split just three months later, 141 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: so it's all been very quick, and the sisters explain 142 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: that they'd previously got very invested in Tammy's relationships and 143 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: had overstepped. It kind of reminded me of our relationship 144 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: with each other, where you give your honest opinion on guys. 145 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 3: Well. 146 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Also, you spend all of this time during the breakup 147 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: pumping the person up, telling them what they should do. 148 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: And it's quite clear that Emily and Amy were upset 149 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: because they said that they had a plan with Tammy 150 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: after the breakup with Matt Paul. They said the next 151 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: person Tammy meets that she should take things slower with them, and. 152 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: Tammy agreed to it. 153 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: Here's how Amy does described Tammy when it comes to relationships, and. 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: Tammy loves love, you would know that she loves romance 155 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: and that's why she always falls so hard, which I hated, 156 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: but also loved about her and didn't want her to 157 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: ever lose that. 158 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: So I always just like hoped for you guys to 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: work out. I don't think Tammy would have been happy 160 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: with this description because she cops so much shit online 161 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: from people saying that she races into relationships and she 162 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: falls head over heels too quickly, and this is kind 163 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: of sementic. Yeah, it just reiterates what everyone's. 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: Been saying online. 165 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: Now, there were so many revelations during this podcast, but 166 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: one of the biggest involved a planned elope. Well. I 167 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: couldn't believe they were talking about this. So this was 168 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: only weeks into their relationship when Matt and Tammy announced 169 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: to their families that they were eloping and even had 170 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: a location booked in. Now for context, this was before 171 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Matt then went on to propose to Tammy in the 172 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Maldives last year. 173 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: I can't imagine why the family were concerned at all. Oh, 174 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: it just seems totally normal, doesn't it. 175 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Now. This elopement led to crisis meetings with the Hembro family, 176 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: and it sounded like things got particularly heated with Emily. 177 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 178 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 5: You and Tim we were going to a lope. 179 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: We were going to a loaf. 180 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: We were concerned the naturally. 181 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: I know you say you had no feelings, but you 182 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: were very strong on. 183 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: The other. 184 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 5: Silly, and it would have been a really bad mistake, 185 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: but I just didn't. I didn't express it to anyone, 186 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 5: but I think I expressed. 187 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: It just to you. 188 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 3: Hate me. 189 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 5: There has nothing to do with it. It's not your 190 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 5: character who you are. It was going to be any 191 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: any person that she was with, you know, And I 192 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: just found it, Like I remember saying to you the 193 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: first time we spoke about it at her house, and 194 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 5: I just said to you, like, what's the rash? 195 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: And you were like, well, why not? We love each other? 196 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: And I was like, that's just like so silly. 197 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: It's so fascinating hearing all of the dirty details of 198 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: what went on behind the scenes, because I feel like 199 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: we were almost gas lit into thinking that the whole 200 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: family approved of Matt and that everyone thought it was 201 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: so normal that things were moving at such a fast pace. Well, 202 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: they had Papa hembro on as in Tammy's dad a 203 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and he was acting like he 204 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: was cool with the whole thing. But it sounds like 205 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the sisters had a very different take on it. But 206 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: sometimes the parents like, of course Tammy's dad is going 207 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: to go on there and speak her up. I mean, 208 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: it's the sisters that give the very genuine side of 209 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: the story. It was so awkward listening to this because 210 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: Matt was clearly not reading the room because he then 211 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: went on to ask Emily and Amy, oh, what have 212 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: you guys attended the elopement if it went ahead? Shut up, Matt, 213 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm not talking, and Emily hit back and said, isn't 214 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: the point of an elopement to do it without people. 215 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: I think it was Matt and Emily that were butting 216 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: heads the most, because Matt kept going at Emily and saying, oh, well, 217 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: you got engaged to your husband very quickly after meeting him. 218 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: But she was like, well, I hadn't just been proposed 219 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: to twice or had a one year old child yet, 220 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: which was a bit of a burn to Tammy was 221 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: also made it very clear that that's clearly what Tammy 222 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: and Matt are saying behind the sisters backs, She's done 223 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. 224 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: It did seem like Tammy's. 225 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: Sisters must have gotten through to the couple a little 226 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: bit because despite the elopement being booked in, Tammy changed 227 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: her mind. 228 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: He said, I don't want a loathing because it had 229 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: it booked in in like a month later. And then 230 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I'm going to propose, make it 231 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: more like romantic, and then she was like, nah, we're 232 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: not a looking I want to do it. 233 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Wait. Despite Tammy's sisters really pushing for them to slow 234 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: things down, Matt was still very adamant that he wanted 235 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: to propose. 236 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: So he explained in this interview that he locked in. 237 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: A time to visit Amy and Emily at their skin clinic, 238 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and he had the ring with him because he was 239 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: there to seek their approval. I mean, it was so 240 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: obvious that they weren't cool with the thing of the 241 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: whole time, and her absence spoke volumes, and she said 242 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: it was her way of giving Matt a big fat no. 243 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 2: This is what Emily said. 244 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: When you guys said you were getting engaged. I was 245 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 5: like he he must be that delusional. I was really 246 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 5: concerned because she is, like she's spontaneous, and she's a 247 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: fun spirit, and she likes to do what she wants 248 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 5: to do. But for a guy to come in and 249 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: think that's okay when she's got a one year old, like, 250 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 5: I thought that was a big red flag. 251 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty evident that Emily hates Matt's guts. I mean 252 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: that's what I took from this interview. And it was 253 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: almost like she was saying that he was too irresponsible. 254 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: To be a stepfather. 255 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And things got even worse when Emily then issued 256 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: a warning to Matt. 257 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 5: I feel like I like Matt as a person, Like 258 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: I think he's nice. Yeah, I think he's immature. I 259 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 5: think he's got to do a lot of growing up. 260 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: Like you're very immature, but I think you're a nice person, 261 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 5: Like you've got a good heart, Like you've got good 262 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 5: intentions with her. But I do still feel like it 263 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 5: could be a longer engagement. But like we get along, 264 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 5: there's no beef, there's love, no beef. 265 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: After this. 266 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: Immature in what way you're like some of the stuff 267 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 5: you say, I can't think of things up to my head. 268 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 5: That's like a little teenager boy would say something like that, 269 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 5: like a little baby, a big baby. 270 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: You're right, I. 271 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 5: Just hope you know marriage is a serious thing. Yeah, 272 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 5: it is actually a serious thing. And like I hope 273 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 5: you don't make any mistakes, Like I really pray and 274 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 5: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy. 275 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm not going to hurt Tammy. I have no intention 276 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: of hurting Tammy. 277 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: I totally get the baby comment after hearing that say 278 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna hurt Tammy. That is my absolute 279 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: it when people speaking baby voices, It's like he was 280 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: this little boy who was being told off. Look, the 281 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: biggest issue for me, and it appears the sisters. 282 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 2: Is Matt's rush. It just seems like everything is such 283 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: a rush. I don't get what it has to be. 284 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: I mean, if he really love her, why can't they 285 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: wait two years to get married. 286 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: These comments from Emily are just so explosive because what 287 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: she's essentially saying is that she is concerned that Matt 288 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: is going to cheat on Tammy. I don't know if 289 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: she's sayings by giving him a warning saying you better 290 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: not hurt her. 291 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: Well, they were obviously. 292 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: Pissed off after that grand Prix DM that got expired. Well, 293 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: that is totally what this is in reference to. And 294 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I think she's very concerned that when the reality of 295 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: marriage sets in for Matt, you know, once all these 296 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: festivities are over, that he will become bored and unhappy, 297 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: particularly when he's becoming a new step dad to three kids. 298 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: Do you think they're also trying to get her on 299 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: the record like before they get married. It's kind of 300 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: like we were right. I feel like they probably had 301 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: a fight with Tammy beforehand and they just can't stand 302 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: sitting there and blowing smoke up this guy's ass. But 303 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: I how did an air Like if this was recorded 304 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, surely Tammy would have heard it 305 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: and said, please don't air this. 306 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: This is too damaging in. 307 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: Terms of PR. This is the worst PR this couple 308 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: could have just weeks out from their wedding. 309 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. 310 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: Emily wasn't glowing of Matt either when it came to 311 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: discussing how he was with her kids, because online there's 312 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: been a lot of discussion like, oh, he looks like 313 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: quite a good step dad. Because that's what I took 314 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: from all the tiktoks they do. 315 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, God on them. 316 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: He's having fun with the children's taking them to the 317 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: movies because we saw that he and Wolf both shave 318 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: their heads, and everyone's been saying how much Wolf looks 319 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: like mad and they seem to have quite a cute 320 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: little connection and when maybe he's on their level, maybe well, 321 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Emily said, oh, I haven't really seen him much with 322 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: the kids, and she confessed that the first time that 323 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Matt hung out with the whole family, she purposely tried 324 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: to make it appear extra chaotic with the kids. 325 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feb that. 326 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Was hilarious, because she said she even went as far 327 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: as banging the table when he wasn't watching. I was like, Oh, 328 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: the kids are pretty good today, They're not that noisy. Yeah, 329 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: it was clearly a test, and she said that Matt 330 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: looked like he'd seen a ghost. I just couldn't help 331 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: but feel like Emily in particular, was trying to insinuate 332 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: that Matt was a bit of a gold digger because 333 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: he stands to gain lot from marrying Tammy. She is 334 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: reportedly worth fifty million dollars, and unless they sign a prenup, 335 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: Matt could potentially claim half of her fortune if they 336 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: get divorced, and I don't think they have prenups in Australia. 337 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some legalities around it though, And I 338 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: just think ultimately this is why they are so suspicious 339 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: of him rushing into this, because there seems to have 340 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: been a lot of love bombing from the start, and 341 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: Tammy had been telling her sisters that she was in 342 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: love and had met her soulmate and that they're going 343 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: to be together forever, and they're probably just thinking, well, 344 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: if she was worth nothing, would you be rushing into marry. 345 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that Matt is a gold digger. I 346 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: don't think that's why he's after Tammy. I just think, 347 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: as a sister said, he's in this way, so you 348 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: don't think that her lifestyle has anything to do with 349 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he wants to lock things down quickly. 350 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: It's when you think of a gold digger, you generally 351 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: think of somebody who's going after some like old person 352 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: that has nothing going for them, like Tammy Henbro has 353 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: a hell of a. 354 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: Lot going for her rather than matters. 355 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: But I'm saying like, I think he's in awe of 356 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: Tammy because she's gorgeous, she's super successful. Yes, she has 357 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: a lot of money and probably a lifestyle that he 358 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: is quite envious of or. 359 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: Wants to be. 360 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: What's the point of getting married so quickly? 361 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Like couldn't you just. 362 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Because I think he's being immature and he's in awe 363 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: of her because of how famous and successful and talented 364 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: she is. 365 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: To be honest, it sounds like he is very immature. 366 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: But also I love this part of the podcast because 367 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: the sisters pointed out that they found it particularly concerning 368 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: the way that Matt was so quick to call Tammy's 369 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: house our house. 370 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: That's what kissed me off. Here's what they said. 371 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: And you were talking about I think the New Year's 372 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: here party, and you were like, are you going to 373 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 5: come to like our house that we're hosting our party? 374 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: And you literally just met just like just. 375 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: Like a few times, like ah, like I'm okay, I 376 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: get you guys, Like, oh house, it's the first time 377 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 5: we've been to this house. 378 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: I was still staying in a hotel. 379 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: This is so uncomfortable to listen to. 380 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: It is so clear that he has totally rubbed this 381 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: family up the wrong way, and his comments just really 382 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: seemed to lack awareness, because it's like he's sending the message, Oh, 383 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 1: this two story mansion is already mine, even though it's 384 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: like the first time he's fucking been there. 385 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: Well, there was a huge red flag. 386 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: I think I would have loved to have been a 387 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 1: fly on the wall during the car ride home between 388 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: Amy and Emily, because they would have been bitching their 389 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: faces off, Like if this was me and I'd met 390 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: your boyfriend, Sophie and he was calling your house his, 391 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: that would infuriate me so much. Oh totally, there would 392 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: be so much bitching going on behind the scenes. It's 393 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: probably not a great move as well when he said 394 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: that they were in fact invited to the party, like, 395 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: of course they were invited to the party. All the 396 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: whole vibe that I get from this is that Emily 397 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: and Amy and the other sisters potentially have made it 398 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: very clear to Tammy what they think about Matt, and 399 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: Tammy is probably wanting to prove them wrong by marrying him, 400 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: by saying, look all worked out, Like, not only is 401 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: she wanting to prove a family wrong, but she's wanting 402 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: to prove all of the trolls wrong. And I just 403 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: think she would have been beyond livid to listen to 404 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: this episode back because it just plays into what trolls 405 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: have been saying, and somewhat, please make this a reality 406 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: show their wedding, Like could they make it like newly 407 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: Weds or something? Because this would be sensational to watch. 408 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: It's got the whole Kim Kardashi and Chris Humphreys vibe. 409 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: Because maybe it won't last for very long as well. 410 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: The only reason I can think of that Matt would 411 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: have wanted this episode to see the light of day 412 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: is to gain exposure for his podcast. 413 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: But interestingly it. 414 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Hasn't been picked up by the mainstream media yet. 415 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: Well. 416 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I first heard about this podcast through TikTok because the 417 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Where's Your head At podcast put up this clip and 418 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: it was where Emily was warning Matt. I was like, 419 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: fucking hell, with no context, this looks even worse. Reckon 420 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: Anna was like, look, mate, we're gonna have to put 421 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: it up because our podcast needs some extraviews. 422 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 6: You knew what was coming. 423 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: In a much anticipated podcast episode, Lucy Jackson has spilled 424 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: the tea on why she dramatically broke up with her 425 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: boyfriend Sam a day after he moved in. Lucy announced 426 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: a breakup on TikTok two weeks ago, sharing that she 427 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: was looking for a new roommate. She then confirmed in 428 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: the comment section that Sam had cheated on her. 429 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: However, we did not know all of the dirty details 430 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: until now. 431 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: This has been popping up all over my TikTok because 432 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: people have been taking the most explosive parts of this 433 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: episode and showing their reaction whilst they're just doing everyday task, 434 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: Like some girl was getting her nails done and was like, 435 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, it did not disappoint. Now, this episode was. 436 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: Entitled I Got cheated on. 437 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: Never trust a boy in mo cup vans, and this 438 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: is quite iconic because she explained on her TikTok how 439 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: low cut vans have been on her eke list for 440 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: years and these are the shoes he chose to wear 441 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: on their first day. Isn't it funny how sometimes you 442 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: just know in your gut, like no, ahead of time, 443 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a fucking dick. There's some 444 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: little red flags along the way. Now. They started the 445 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: podcast by prefacing that they didn't want their listeners to 446 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: go and leave Sam hate comments and that they don't 447 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: condone bullying in any way. Lucy also said that no 448 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: one is perfect and that she's made mistakes in her life. 449 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: And I think that this is in reference to rumors. 450 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: Which have since surfaced about her allegedly being unfaithful to 451 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: her past partner. I got the vibe throughout this podcast 452 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: that she's concerned that Sam is going to start spreading 453 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: vicious rumors about her. I always find it amusing when 454 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: people have to put these warnings in at the start, 455 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: like please don't give him hate, but then they creat 456 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: an absolute down on him, like obviously their listeners are 457 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: going to go after Sam. I reckon that must have 458 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: been really cathartic for her to record this. Yeah, I mean, 459 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't blame them for going in hard on him. 460 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Sounds like absolute dickhach. She just sounds like a douchebag 461 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: from this. So she started by explaining their relationship timeline, 462 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: as it was quite pivotal to the story. 463 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: So just a quick refresher. They met in feb this year. 464 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: They went on a first date and saw each other 465 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: for two weeks until Lucy called things off when she 466 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: went to America for a month. And she said that 467 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: she called things off because she was uncertain about him 468 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: she wasn't really into him now. When she got back 469 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: from America, they picked things back up straight away, and 470 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: during the month of April, they weren't really official, but 471 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: she said that they were still seeing each other five 472 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: times a week, and they started meeting each other's friends 473 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: and discussing meeting each other's family members. I'm sorry, if 474 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: you're catching up with someone five times a week, you've 475 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: got to put a title that that's official. 476 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 477 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, in May, that's when things became really serious and 478 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: they planned to meet up in Europe and they also 479 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: discussed moving in with each other after the trip, and 480 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: Lucy explained that they were very much together, but because 481 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: she's been so busy with work, they were like ships 482 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: in the night, so they spent a lot of time apart, 483 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: but it sounded like they were official, and she went 484 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: on to say what a great time they had together 485 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: in Europe, and when they returned that they exchanged I 486 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: love yous and this was when he was then set 487 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: to move in. Yeah, now let's get into what actually 488 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: went down. So he moved in on the Tuesday, and 489 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: by Wednesday night she was kicking him out. So on Wednesday, 490 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: Lucy and Sam went out to dinner, and they met 491 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: up with some of his friends that she hadn't met before, 492 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: and they were supposed to be going to a wedding 493 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: together the next day. Now, when they got home, she 494 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: decided to check her indirect and hidden DMS. And she 495 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: said that this is a bit of a toxic trade 496 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: of hers and she religiously checks them. It's not because 497 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: she was concerned about anything. She just does it all 498 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: the time. And in there there was a message from 499 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: a girl claiming to have slept with Sam in May. 500 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: Here's what Lucy said. 501 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 6: There was a message from a girl pretty much saying 502 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 6: that she had an encounter when in May with him. 503 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 6: Should I call it an encounter, like I don't know 504 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 6: what do you even? Yeah, like slipping him in May? 505 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: And that when. 506 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 6: We were in Europe, he was texting her and calling 507 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 6: her and trying to like essentially, you know, we were 508 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 6: from Afar, from a music festival in Belgium. I go, 509 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 6: surely there was better things to be doing at that 510 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 6: point in time broke and so I had a moment 511 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 6: and I was like WHOA. And you know when everything 512 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: kind of just like spins in front of you and 513 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 6: you're like, what the fuck's going on, Like I was 514 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 6: literally my undies, Like I was just like, you know, 515 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 6: not prepared, and I just said, get the fuck out 516 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 6: of my house. And obviously a lot of shock. He 517 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 6: was very shocked. And I just get the fuck out 518 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 6: of my house. And then obviously I said, do not 519 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 6: make me raise my voice. 520 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: Get the fuck out. 521 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 522 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 6: And he you know why you said that? Yeah, I 523 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 6: showed him shod Yeah, right, And obviously he went pale 524 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 6: as a ghost, as you would when you get caught 525 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 6: out for that kind of shit. 526 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: So Lucy referred to this girl as girlfriend number one, 527 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: and she explained that this girl had had a long 528 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: history with Sam, so things had been back and forth 529 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: between the pair, and they'd known each other for years 530 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of wounds now. Girlfriend number 531 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: one said she wasn't aware Sam was with Lucy when 532 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: they'd slept together. He also told her he was going 533 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: to Europe with a friend called Lucy. 534 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god, what a. 535 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: Stab in the heart to be referred to as someone's friend. Now, 536 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: despite not having a huge amount of proof, Lucy instantly 537 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: believed her and Sam started to go into full damage control. 538 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: He allegedly started. 539 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: Messaging girlfriend number one be her not to say any 540 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: more to Lucy, which is instant guilt. Now, this is 541 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: where girlfriend number two enters the chat. So she had 542 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: come up a lot in their relationship, as they hadn't 543 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: broken up long before Lucy and Sam started dating, and 544 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: there were numerous instances where they wouldn't go to certain 545 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: coffee shops because she was going to be there. 546 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: Red flag. 547 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Sam had spoken quite ill of her on 548 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: several occasions, and Lucy said that that should have been 549 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: a red flag, but she that is so true. What 550 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: do you think about that? Should exes talk nicely? 551 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: I think about each other? 552 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: I think you should always be somewhat respectful because obviously 553 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: you were with that person for a reason, you'd love 554 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: them at some stage of your life, and that they 555 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: were They're always going to have been a part of 556 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: your life. Don't you think it's a huge red flag 557 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: when a guy's like, oh my ex was crazy and. 558 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: You're like, well, did you make them crazy? 559 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? 560 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: Definitely. 561 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: I mean it's different if someone has actually treated you awfully. Yeah, 562 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: if someone's cheated on you, you can say that they're a pig. Now, 563 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,479 Speaker 1: Lucy brought up girlfriend number two on the phone with 564 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Sam after they split, and after a lot of back 565 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: and forth, Sam admitted that he did sleep with girlfriend 566 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: number two in April, and that was when Lucy was 567 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: in Bali for her birthday, so this was around the 568 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: time that they were hanging out a lot. 569 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: They weren't quite official. 570 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: It's pretty random because Lucy said that one of her 571 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: male friends ended up pursuing girlfriend number two whilst she 572 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: and Sam were going out, and she told the friend 573 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: that Sam was bad news. That's clever of Lucy to 574 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: push the friend towards girlfriend number two. Let's get her 575 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: out of the picture, Let's get her with a boyfriend. 576 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: I don't think she did. I think it was all 577 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: just pretty random. Now, following these revelations, Lucy threw all 578 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: of Sam's possessions on the side of the road and 579 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: told him that he had until the afternoon to pick 580 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: them up or she'd take them to the tip. Now. 581 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: Because he moved in, he left three surfboards in her garage, 582 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: and she said that she contemplated running them over but 583 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: thought better of it, so instead she left a note 584 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: on top of his possession which said you are a loser, 585 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: and she also decided to keep his ugliest jacket, which 586 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: he is obsessed with, and she said she's planning on 587 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: throwing it into the canal in front of her house. 588 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: So that's a bit of a farewell sign. 589 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: I would have let him keep the ugly jacket because 590 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: my theory is that he'll keep wearing that on dates 591 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: and keep repelling people. Now, back when Lucy shared the 592 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: initial breakup news on her TikTok, this is when girl 593 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: number three popped up and Lucy referred to this girl 594 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: as random girl. So this girl slid into Lucy's GMS 595 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: and informed her that she'd slept with. 596 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Her ex earlier in the year. 597 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Now, this didn't bother Lucy as much as it could 598 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: have been before they met, But what bothered her was 599 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: a text message exchange that they had in Europe. So 600 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: this was at the same music festival where he was 601 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: texting girlfriend number one. It was actually this text message 602 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: exchange that Lucy said made her feel the most sick, and. 603 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: She decided to read it out word for word on 604 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: the podcast. Here's what it's say it So. 605 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 6: I'm going to read you some of the messages that 606 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 6: he was sending this gum. So, how's dating on the 607 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 6: Gold coast going and this is him asking her, and 608 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 6: she goes pretty non existent? 609 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: What about you? 610 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: Oh really, I feel like there's a. 611 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 6: Lot of single boys getting around And then she goes, well, 612 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 6: if you know anyone, let me know. How's your dating life? 613 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 6: And he goes, ha ha, I'll keep an ear out. Yeah, 614 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 6: I'm actually dating someone at the moment. It's going pretty well. 615 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 6: I guess I'll keep you updated ha ha oh and 616 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 6: she goes, you guess that doesn't sound promising and he goes, 617 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 6: ha ha, it's going well, can always be better, you know, 618 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 6: and she goes how so and he goes, I don't know, 619 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 6: just to figure a speech, ha ha, but your dating 620 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 6: life I seen, which I also hate when people just 621 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 6: say seen and said a soul. Get some fucking grammar. 622 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 6: I seen, you posted a pick with a boy the 623 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 6: other day? Was this something or just a random And 624 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 6: she goes someone that's on Instagram once a week on 625 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 6: his iPad, fucking keeping tabs on everyone did I I 626 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 6: don't know who would have been? Oh, maybe someone you 627 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 6: worked with and she goes maybe and he goes so 628 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 6: secretive haha. 629 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: Nicki played such a supporting role in this podcast, but 630 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: her comments were absolutely iconic, like her going on about 631 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: or him on his iPad noticing everything that's happening on 632 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: this girl's face. 633 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: But I was in absolute fits of laughter. I can 634 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: see why she'd. 635 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: Be most offended by this text message exchange, because it's 636 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: like as if Lucy's just a nobody or nothing, non existent, 637 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: but you're literally moving into her house in a few 638 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: weeks time, you dickhare Well. I have to explain Nikki's 639 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: original iPad comment because Lucy said that there were so 640 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: many things that were off about Sam that she should 641 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: have realized, and one was his use of an iPad. 642 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: SOI guy uses an ipay claimed. 643 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: That he only used Instagram on his iPad, and she 644 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 1: believed him because she thought that he was this like artsy, 645 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: wholesome guy who didn't like social media. But it's quite 646 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: clear that he was trying to cover his tracks. Now. 647 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: The other clue that things weren't quite right was that 648 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: he had a weird handle on Instagram, so it wasn't 649 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: his real name or What seemed to puzzle Lucy the 650 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: most was how he thought he was going to get 651 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: away with it. 652 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what she said. 653 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 6: When you jumped in your car and drove your bloody's 654 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 6: stupid car with your stupid campervan on top. Yuck over 655 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: to one of these girls' houses knowing who I was 656 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 6: online based on what you already knew you. It's not 657 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 6: like you just stumble. It's like, oh, I didn't know you, 658 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 6: Like you knew what was coming. Yeah, Like you knew 659 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 6: what the repercussions would be, and yet you still chose 660 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 6: to do it. 661 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: She has a really good point, and this is why 662 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for the guy, because he would 663 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: know the type of personality that Lucy is that she 664 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: would be very forthcoming to share this with her podcast 665 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: listeners and do a whole expose. 666 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: Eight. 667 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: This guy is going to find it very difficult to 668 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: date moving forward. He's probably going to run back to 669 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: girlfriend number two, who hasn't reached out to Lucy, because 670 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: it's probably the only person who's going to be able 671 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: to get at this stage. Oh my god, I've just 672 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: realized I've been in the same the same shirt all week. 673 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has revealed the much anticipated results of her 674 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: Fox I lived three weeks after going under the knife 675 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: in Turkey until now, the thirty year old has been 676 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: hiding her eyes behind surgery bandages and black glasses. Yeah, 677 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: she's even had paparazzi following her every move to try 678 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: and get a glimpse of the results. And it's clear 679 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: that she has been inundated by followers asking her why 680 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: she won't just show her eyes, because she responded in 681 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: a Q and A saying that she can't be fucked 682 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: with people's opinions right now and that the healing will 683 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: take three to six months. 684 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 2: And to her point, she. 685 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: Posted a photo of her nose a few weeks after 686 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: her nose job, which she got probably five years ago, 687 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: and said, look how dumb my nose looked when I 688 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: first got it done. Like I said, the healing process 689 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: ain't fun for me. I even hated my boobs when 690 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: I first got the tape off. I had a meltdown 691 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: about it on my YouTube video. Loll you gotta trust 692 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: the process. Well. She also revealed that she didn't love 693 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: how the fox I lift looked straight after surgery, because 694 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: she said it was very swollen and it looked uneven. 695 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: But she knows that she just needs to wait and 696 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: be patient to see the actual results, and that's what 697 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been saying online, especially in 698 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: our Facebook community, that you can't judge it now. Yeah, well, 699 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: it seemed like she was forced to come out with 700 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: her results earlier than she would have liked because she 701 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: had to meet and greet with fans last Friday. 702 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: Was that for that new drink she's got? I think so? 703 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: She was dressed in a police outfit. I'm not quite 704 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: sure what that had to do with it. 705 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Surely she could have worn sunglasses. Well, I assumed she 706 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't want fans posting photos that she had no control over. First, 707 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: she wanted to be the one that got the chance 708 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: to show the results, maybe in the lighting that she liked, 709 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: and she ended up sharing a video where she turned 710 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: from side to side to show her new look, but 711 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: she still had a lot of heavy face tape around 712 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: her temples and a lot of bruising, and she wrote 713 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: she couldn't be happier with the results and tagged her doctor, 714 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: thanking him. She then added a big fuck you to everyone, 715 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: saying I fucked my face up because I legit just 716 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: leveled it up. Actually, nothing wrong in wanting to feel 717 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: and look good. 718 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Do what makes you happy, queens. 719 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: What worried me, though, is that. Following that post, she 720 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: then started listing more things that she wanted to do 721 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: to her face. 722 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: So she said that she. 723 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: Wanted to straighten her bottom teeth and for reference, she 724 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: literally has the most stunning beautiful teeth, like to the 725 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: point where people think that her teeth are veneers, they're 726 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: that nice theirs. 727 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're natural. 728 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: So it just sounds like she's ticked off the Fox 729 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: eye lift and now gone, what else can I do? 730 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm still not happy? Yeah, and that's what's so troubling 731 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: about this now. She ended up posting the full results 732 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: on TikTok, where she had removed the tape and she 733 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: did a transition video, so she was wearing daggy clothes 734 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: and she had her eyes hidden behind these new glasses 735 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: that she's wearing. They're sort of very like court pretty glasses. 736 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: And then she revealed her all glammed up with her 737 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: eyes front and center. And I have to say, they 738 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: looked dramatically different. And again this is because it is 739 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: only three weeks after surgery. They looked really defined and 740 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: almond like, and a few of her followers were complimentary 741 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: in the comments section, with one saying, oh, they're a 742 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: vibe and you look like Bella had did. However, the 743 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: majority of comments weren't so complimentary, and there was an 744 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: influx of people saying that she looked like Joscelyn Wilderestein 745 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: and she's with that. She's known as cat Lady. Oh 746 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: so she is the socialite who is known for getting 747 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: so much cosmetic surgery she now resembles a cat. Another 748 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 1: person said no, why did you do that, which got 749 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: over twelve hundred likes. 750 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 2: Whilst another said, please tell me that you can reverse this. 751 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: If I were Sky, I think I would have taken 752 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: a social media hiatus for three months and come back 753 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: when the eyes were looking how I wanted them to. Yeh, 754 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: it's her career. She's closing followers. I had a look 755 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: on social blade on Instagram. In the past thirty days, 756 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: she's actually lost seven hundred. 757 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: And fifty followers. 758 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: And I would have thought, if you're posting this type 759 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: of content that people are talking about people are concerned 760 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 1: about it, you would think you'd be gaining more. But 761 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: I think maybe people are disturbed by the. 762 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 2: Lengths of she's gone. I've been concerned about it. 763 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: I think because she gained a lot of followers when 764 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: she won. I'm a celeb, and that would have been 765 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: a very mainstream crowd who were probably quite taken back 766 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: by this. And don't get me wrong, I actually think 767 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: sky Wheatley is a nice person deep down. She has 768 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of controversies and she's definitely put her 769 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: foot in it, but I don't think she has a 770 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: bad bone in her body. 771 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 2: But I'm just concerned about her. That's the thing. 772 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: It's really difficult to watch this because it's quite apparent 773 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: that she has body dysmorphia, and she said that on 774 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: a number of occasions. Now, she hit back at some 775 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: of the people in the comments section, saying, guys, I'm 776 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: three weeks post off. It's gonna look crazy whilst I'm healing. 777 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: But I love it. Well, at least she's saying she 778 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: likes it because you know, as she said, she didn't 779 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: like her nose job at first, she didn't like her 780 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: boob job at first. Yeah, but maybe she's just saying 781 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: that publicly to save face. There's also been persistent rumors, 782 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: which have been fanned by The Daily Mail, that Sky 783 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: Wheatley was set to replace Sophie Monk as the host 784 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: of Love Island Australia, but due to this surgery, the 785 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: offer has been taken off the table. So a source 786 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: told the publication that Sophie was set to work on 787 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: other projects at nine and Sky would be a really 788 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: good fit for Love Island and this is off the 789 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: back of a huge popularity after winning I'm. 790 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: A Celeb Now. 791 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: The Insider claims that Nine ultimately decided not to work 792 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: with Sky after she drastically changed the way she looks. 793 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: So The Daily Mail quoted the source who said, the 794 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: problem with changing your appearance and even your hair color 795 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: is that your brand is often wrapped up in a 796 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: look you were famous for. I don't think Nine was 797 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: unconfident with her ability to host the show. I think 798 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: it was just the look they were hiring her for 799 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: has changed now. Sky ended up responding to these rumors 800 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: by posting a video of her lip syncing to Suprena 801 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Carpenter with the caption when you get dropped from hosting 802 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: Love Island because you got scary surgery and added Okay, 803 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: who's in charge of this clickbait? 804 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 805 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: She went on to confirm in the comment section that 806 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: they never asked her to host, but was unsure if 807 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: it's something they spoke about behind closed Doors. I wouldn't 808 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: be surprised if this was the case, because if you 809 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: think about all of the hosting opportunities that came Abbe 810 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: Chatfield's way after she won, I'm a slept Yeah, and 811 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: On Sky's name would be out there also because Sky 812 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: recently attended the Logis and we spoke in that episode 813 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: how the Logis is a bit of an audition for 814 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: the roles that you want, So. 815 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: It's that she's out there. 816 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: I mean she mentioned that she wants to be cast 817 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: on Big Brother, which would be a massive win for 818 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: the show. The thing is a lot of her fans 819 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: said in the comment section the only reason they'd start 820 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: watching Love Island Australia is if Sky was on there, 821 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: so it wouldn't be an entirely bad move. Well, I 822 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: think that's all we've got time for today. Thank you 823 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Outspoken. Don't forget to 824 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: follow us on TikTok and also on Instagram at Outspoken 825 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: Underscore the Underscore Podcast, and you can also follow Sophie 826 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: and I on Instagram and TikTok. Sophie and I have 827 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: started posting a bit more regularly on TikTok. Yeah, a 828 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 1: bit more personal content. I've been sharing a lot about 829 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: my wedding. 830 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 2: I've got my. 831 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: Wedding dress try on on there because I always love 832 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: seeing that pervy stuff from other people and I don't 833 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: really want to flood all of my friends and family 834 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: who are probably not interested in seeing it. And you've 835 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: got a few Balley recommendations on there as well as 836 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: a stocking video, do some cooking videos, and we really 837 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: want to get into Christmas content as well, so we've 838 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: been going every Christmas doll we've been going to. 839 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 2: We've been doing a bit of a whole from there. 840 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 841 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: Well, this episode was recorded on the traditional land of 842 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. 843 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.