1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: The country Liberal Party has reportedly failed to file their 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: political donations it may have received, as required by the 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Electoral Commission. Now. Full details of financial gifts 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: received by political parties in the six months to December 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: thirty one were published this week on the Northern Territory 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Electoral Commission website and reveal that Territory Labor received seventy 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars from one hundred and twenty three donors, 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: a bit more than seventy three grand. The Greens received 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars seventy one four hundred and fifty nine, 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: a large portion of that from their national branch. You 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: can see the lists for the Independence Robin Lamley, Mark Turner, 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: keesiopuric Inya, Mark Gyoula. They have all been submitted and 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: show that they didn't receive any nominations in the past 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: six months or donations. I should say, so, why didn't 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: the COLP declare their donations? 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: Well, we wouldn't usually have a political. 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: President on the show twice in one week, and we 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: did request, as I said, to have the Labour Party on. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: But there are certainly questions that remain unanswered here. So 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: the President of the CLP, Shanestone joins me again in 21 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: the studio. Good morning to you, Shane. 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning to all your listeners. 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Look, we appreciate you joining us again in the studio. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: Why didn't the CLP file these donations. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: Well, it was a failure to comply by a deadline. 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 4: It's totally unacceptable. I read the right act of the 27 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 4: people involved. You would have seen yesterday and the nteen 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: years that the treasurer Attorney Shalling, apologized to the membership 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: of the CLP for this, and I'm assured that those 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: filings will be made today. 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: I can tell you. 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: They amount to forty thousand dollars. There's no secret about 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: any of the donors. 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: I can actually have so forty grand in donations. 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, total. 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: And who are those donations being received from. 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: I can tell you that Scott Chapman, Core Traffic Parlor, Dazzo, 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: and the biggest donor was me right, So. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: You're back in yourself there, Shane. 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: In fact, I will continue to make donations to the COLP. 41 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: The reality is I'm passionate about getting the territory back 42 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: on track, and if it means I've got to put 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: my hand me pocket. 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: I intend to do just that. 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 2: How much did you donate eight hundred on the last run? 46 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Eight hundred dollars on the last six out of forty thousand? 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: I mean, does the fact that these donations weren't actually 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: filed in the due course and the way that they 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: were supposed to show that the COLP, you know, I 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: don't have their business in order. 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: Well, let's make this very clear. 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 4: I'm a labor party running an ad on their Facebook 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 4: page and they're trying to implicate Lea. This has got 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 4: nothing to do with Leah, nothing to do with the 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: parliamentary wing. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: So let's be very clear about that. 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: This is a function of the party that has changed 58 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 4: his office bearers. I came in as a new president, 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 4: Tony Shelling went from general secretary to treasurer. There's been 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: a glitch, unex acceptible. I've told them we can't have 61 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: this happening, and I think we're late two or three 62 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: days at most. But I can tell you that the 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: Northern Territory Electoral Office has been verbally briefed on who 64 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: the donations are from and how much is involved, So 65 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: we're not in the dark with the agency. 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: So was the party trying to be deceitful here. 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: I mean, look, you've only got to ask around with 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 4: people who might be a bit like with a tax 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: return or paying a bill or whatever. This is human 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: failure and it's unacceptable. We have to be right on 72 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: our game with this. And everyone who was involved has 73 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: been told by me in no uncertain terms because you 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: embarrass me as the president of the party, because I'm 75 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: a stickler for this sort of stuff, and there's nothing 76 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: to hide. In fact, we've got the lowest donations of 77 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: any book I. 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Was going to say. I mean, by the look of it, 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: forty around forty thousand dollars. 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: From what you've told me, you've donated yourself more than 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: six thousand dollars. 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: Does that show that the. 83 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: Party doesn't have the support of of you know, big 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: business or some of those bigger companies that the Labor 85 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Party seems to have based on those donations. 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: I think if you drill down on the labor side, 87 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 4: looking at the amounts involved, there's lots of five hundreds. 88 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: I think that's the Alban Easy dinner that was organized 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: and they had to pay so much per head, so 90 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: you know, is it a donation or is it paying 91 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 4: a tariff. The CLP does not, in my estimation at 92 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: the moment, have a sophisticated fundraising arm and we're in 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: the process of rectifying that. Now there's another part of 94 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: all this is related in did help. He gives some 95 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: legacies and they are completely compliant and they failed in time. 96 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: So you know, when we're not the only political party 97 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: that missed deadline. The food shooters and fishes they missed. 98 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: And again you're talking days, you're not talking month. 99 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Got The difference is, though, Shane, you've been around for 100 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: a long long time. Tony's been the He's been the 101 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: treasurer for quite some time, hasn't he. Oh, he hasn't 102 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: secretary all right, So he's been part of the party 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: for quite some time. So you know, we would suspect 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: that the COLP would be organized enough to actually get 105 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: this to the Electoral COMMISSI when they're supposed to. 106 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: That's my expectation, and I've made it very clear that 107 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: I won't tolerate another failure like this. We need to 108 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 4: step up and get it right. And there's nothing to hide. 109 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: This is not a case of hiding donations. It's a 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: failure to file on time, and then you know it's 111 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: a bit rich labor party runs this Facebook ad, you know, 112 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: making these allegations. This is the lot who allegedly diverted 113 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: forty thousand dollars of taxpayers money for the last election 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 4: and are still the subject of an ICAC inquiry. 115 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: Well, look, I don't have the details around that, so 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, I'll be very careful what I do or 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: don't sort of say in that space. 118 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: But I haven't seen the ad myself either. 119 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I guess you've opened yourselves up to 120 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: this criticism. 121 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: It's unacceptable. 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is unacceptable, and people want to know, like, 123 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: they want that transparency, they want that integra from a 124 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: political party. So Shane, some might be asking this morning, 125 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: is the party you know in line with your expectations 126 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: and is this going to be an issue over the 127 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: next six months. 128 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: Well, I'm recently back, but I won't use that as 129 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: an excuse, and I can tell to you I'm in 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 4: there cracking the whip. 131 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: Remember this. 132 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: We are all volunteers, so including the treasurer who takes time. 133 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: Out from his business to do these things. There. 134 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 4: That's not an excuse, that's an observation of the facts, 135 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: but be assured that I take this very very seriously. 136 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,679 Speaker 4: I take compliance very very seriously, and if all things 137 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 4: go to plan, we won't have a recurrence of this. 138 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: All right. And so this afternoon that information, if it 139 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: hasn't already, is going to be going to the inter 140 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Electoral Commission. 141 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: I'm told in writing that that's what's happening, all right. 142 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: And so forty thousand dollars is the donations that the 143 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: COLP have received over the last six months, and more 144 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: than six thousand. 145 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: Six thousand and eight dollars for Shane. 146 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 2: We've got some messages coming through. 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: There's one here saying Tony Shelling's previously been the treasurer. 148 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: Well, he was general secretary when I. 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Came back, Okay, But so either way, what you're saying 150 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: is that you're getting that info to the Electoral Commission today. 151 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: There's nothing more untoward from your perspective. 152 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: Look, people will take shots at Tony. 153 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 4: Tony has been a loyal servant of the party, done 154 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: his best, and I'm not a person who throws people 155 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: under a bus. I'm not going to go out there 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: and sack Tony Shelling because of this one oversight. So 157 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: he'll work hard to get it right, and I do 158 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: think in free service and dedication to the party. 159 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: Shaneestone, I am going to have to leave it there. 160 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time this morning. 161 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: Glad to be on Katie. 162 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Thank you