1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hey, before we start, I just wanted to say if 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: any of this makes you feel anything which means that 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: you want to talk to someone, then please contact Lifeline 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: on thirteen eleven fourteen if you feel the need to talk. 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: There's no problem too small for them, so please just call. 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: Come on, all right, come. 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: On, one sixty the boys. 8 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: So I've actually realized that I'm missing a key piece 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: of information in this journey, and it's one that's going 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: to make you tingle from your nave to your chaps. 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: It involves a man on a quest, the King of TV, 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: and tens of thousands of dollars. When you're struggling with 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: your mental health, we all know the best thing to 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 1: do is to tell someone, but paradoxically, when you're in it, 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: that's often the hardest thing to do. Talking fails us. 16 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: So through this podcast, I intend to create an app 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: which answers the question how do I communicate without talking? 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: How do I share my mood today? I want to 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: start by sharing something with you. 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: I'm worried. 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm worried that half of you feel disconnected to this problem. 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: You don't have a mental illness or mental health issues, 23 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: so it's not yours but you're wrong, and today, to 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: prove it to you, I'm going to make this episode 25 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: all about you, the people who don't have the mental 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: illnesses or who aren't suffering because of their mental health. 27 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: You might even try and claim that you don't know 28 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: anyone who has a mental issue and try and keep 29 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: it at arm's length, but I'm sorry because you're probably wrong. See, 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: one in five people are either stressed, anxious, depressed, or 31 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: mentally unhealthy. So even if you just interact with five 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: or more people during your week, then. 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, But statistically you fucked. 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: It's almost inevitable that there will be a part of 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: your life where you are interacting with someone who is struggling, 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: and a lot of the time, unless you're looking for it, 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: you won't even know. But the last thing I want 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: to do here is burden you. I want to empower you. 39 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I want to equip you, because you're the solution the 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: people who aren't suffering, You're the way out. 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: A couple of years ago, my daughter had a friend 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: that suddenly passed away. It was a very close friend. 43 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: As a parent, watching your child go through the emotions 44 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: of trying to process that, helping them greet not one 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: hundred percent knowing what to say to them. My daughter 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: has anxiety, so that heightened it. Yeah, it was such 47 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 4: a minefield of dealing with. 48 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: I'm a mum of seven children, single parents, so there's 49 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: no one really to bounce off in the darkest time. 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 5: My eldest is twenty two and the next one down 51 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 5: is fifteen. Both of these guys are on the autism spectrum. 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: My eldest particularly has been struggling with his mental health 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 5: and OCD and anxiety for many years now, maybe ten 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 5: or so. We've had so many therapists, we have wonderful 55 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 5: therapists NDS, and you know what, it's just at the 56 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: end of the day, I still feel hopeless because we 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: can't really talk. It's so hard. 58 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: These are people who called up from the show last night, 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: sharing and showing just how many people are in this 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: situation where they know someone is suffering, but they have 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: no roadmap as to how to navigate them. 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 6: Penny and I I think, I mean very honest, We 63 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: still like we're pretty good with saying, but it's often 64 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 6: after the fact, like I might get a bit frustrated 65 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 6: that she's not listening to something I'm saying, or she's 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 6: not present, or but it frustrats with it. But I 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 6: don't want to say at the time, I don't want 68 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 6: to say, like can you just listen to it? Or 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: can you be here for this? Or can you just. 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: This is Hugh van Kylenberg, founder and CEO of The 71 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: Resilience Project. Hugh runs a stupidly good podcast called The 72 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Imperfects with Ryan Sheldon. 73 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: I adore you. What do you and I both do? 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: He spent years doing hundreds of talks at schools around 75 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: the country. In twenty fourteen alone, he told me he 76 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: spoke at four hundred and eighty nine schools. That's like 77 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: more than fifteen schools a week for four years. He 78 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: speaks about mental health as well as anyone, but interestingly, 79 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: there's probably one area of his life where, like a 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: lot of people, he feels completely helpless. 81 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 6: When we first got engaged, she'd be such a happy moment, 82 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 6: her brain started saying, I don't think you want to 83 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 6: marry Hugh like she wanted to, but her brain was 84 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 6: like just hijacking O, Naida, Wow, you don't want to 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 6: Like this is probably not the best and it's a 86 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 6: very common thing with ocd's only relationship OCD where you 87 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 6: convince yourself you shouldn't be with the but you know 88 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 6: that you're in love. Yeah, but your brain's like, now, 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 6: this isn't the person, not the person. It's like constantly 90 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 6: sabotaging moments of joy. So I can say that happened 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 6: to Penny sometimes, but I don't like saying to her 92 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 6: in the moment, like you're having obsessive thought right now, 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 6: because I know that she'rely confronting to it. My job 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 6: is mental health, Like I talk about mental health all 95 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 6: day every day, and my partner and I had never 96 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: really had this discussion around the different obsessions she's had 97 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 6: in her life. If there's an easier way for us 98 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 6: to have these conversations or like her heads up of 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 6: like I've been I've been ruminating today about it. I've 100 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 6: been obsessing over this, this and this. That's a great 101 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 6: thing for me to come out because there's sometimes like 102 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 6: she'd been away for a couple of days and we're 103 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 6: messaging come way for you to come back, and I 104 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 6: don't think she meant that because the kids were out 105 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 6: of control. 106 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: And she was down the beach. 107 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 6: I's having a great time, but she was I can't 108 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 6: wait to get her and see blah blah blah. I 109 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 6: was like, I'm wait to see you. And she got home, 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 6: and the way she was acting around me was not 111 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 6: that she was over excited to see me and parties 112 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 6: like what have I done that I've done something here? 113 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 6: I said something yeah, because it wasn't. She wasn't. She 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 6: was like oh, and but didn't give me much I was. 115 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 6: I spent the next two hours like what have I done? Like, 116 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: I've just I've spent two hours and a half of 117 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 6: the kids should get away? Or is she angry at me? 118 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 6: Once and then I was like, I think she might 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 6: be obsessing over something. 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 121 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 6: But still I've been to get her for like seven 122 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 6: and a half years, and I'm like, do I say 123 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 6: something here? I don't want to say in front of 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 6: the kids because I don't want them to hear us 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 6: having these conversations. I don't know, so it's still for me, 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 6: like I still find it really difficult. 127 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: The amazing thing about this chat with Hugh was that 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: as he started to talk about his wife's mental health 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: and the role he had to play, I could start 130 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: to see the stark similarities between he and Woody I 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: could see Woods during this interview positively popping out of 132 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: his chair because he could hear himself in Hugh's story. 133 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 7: I totally get that, Hugh, because sometimes and I'll talk 134 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 7: about with you and me. 135 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was last about to direct it to you. 136 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 8: It's so true, Hugh that sometimes you go, oh, maybe 137 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 8: he's actually just pissed off at me. 138 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you can't help it. 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 8: Sometimes you you naturally end someone's feel a bit like 140 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 8: I'll just naturally bring it back to myself and go 141 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 8: what have I done wrong? 142 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 7: And it can be quite hard to navigate. 143 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 8: Would it be offensive of me to say to him, hey, 144 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 8: are you feeling okay today? 145 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 7: When I've actually just done something yeah, to piss him off? 146 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 8: And then you might just go, no, mate, the brain's 147 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 8: ever been better. You're just fucking kissing me off to 148 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 8: that you're started. 149 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 7: On my face. 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, that's really hard to navigate something, and. 151 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 6: Then it becomes exhausting for I think we're quite similar 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 6: in this regard, and that I remember one interview we 153 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 6: did before. I think you said something I can't remember. 154 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 6: It might have been like your no, it's on our podcast, 155 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 6: and you said that your em is just to make 156 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 6: sure everyone's having a good time. Like that you feel responsible. 157 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 6: I feel the same thing heavily of like facilitate a 158 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 6: great time here. And so if I feel like Penny's 159 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 6: not in a good space, I go, right you reach. 160 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: It is my job. 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 6: I'm gotta make everyone everything. It's a ridiculous boon to 162 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 6: put on myself. 163 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 164 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 6: If I think I've either done something or she's obsessing 165 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:06,119 Speaker 6: over something, or I'll do something ridiculous like the links 166 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: that I go to to try and make sure, it's exhausting. 167 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 6: It's not my job, but ramp it up. 168 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, doing it blind as well, because you're trying to 169 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 8: solve things without knowing what the actual problem is totally. 170 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 8: And I think if we, you know, go circle back 171 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 8: to the app knowing and you know, for you and 172 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 8: your relationship with Penny and my relationship with. 173 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 7: Will, knowing that, like, ah, here's what's happening. You've actually 174 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 7: shared it with me, so I haven't had to try 175 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 7: and guess are you pissed off at me? Or are 176 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 7: you feeling depressed today? 177 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 8: Just puts you leaps and bounds ahead and then you 178 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 8: can actually go Okay, so I know the problem now, 179 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 8: I think, for you and me, and for so many 180 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 8: people listening to this, we'll never be able to change 181 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 8: our way of always wanting to help people and make 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 8: people feel better. But it's so much better to know, Okay, 183 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 8: that's what's going on. I can relieve myself of the 184 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 8: guilt I'm feeling right now. I think I've done something 185 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 8: to annoy the person I love or annoy the person 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 8: I work with, and then just go, Okay, that's what's 187 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 8: going on. 188 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: More from s later, But it's probably worth noting that, 189 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: as he so often does, would you hit the nail 190 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: on the head? 191 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: Please don't tell him I said that. 192 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: If you say him, but just don't be fooled by 193 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: the fart gags and the surfer aesthetic, because the bloke 194 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: is actually a lot more clever than he looks. 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 7: Gee, have you hit the nail on the head of 196 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 7: my character? 197 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: Take all of that back? No, you do not, I 198 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: do take it all back. That a genuine that was 199 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: just I knew you were listening, and I was like, 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little bit of a cookie here. 201 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent what happened. Let's say something clever, 202 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: then prove it. Okay, I'll say something clever. No, we 203 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: can edit out the thinking time obviously in post. But hmm, well, 204 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: no sign will come to me often often not if 205 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I had to swim for long enough, something drops and 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: that thing is Mitochondria is the element that carries the 207 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: oxygen from the blood from the vein. 208 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,239 Speaker 2: That's hemoglobin. 209 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: Damn it, damn it, mitochondria. What's the amotochondria. 210 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: They're the powerhouses of yourself, the energy I'm going to 211 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 2: carry on if they're with you. But back to you, 212 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: I know you're out there. There are so many of 213 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: you in this scenario. 214 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: You know that the person near you or next to 215 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: you at work or even in your bed at night, 216 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: it's just not themselves some days. 217 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: And you know it. They know it, they know you 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: know it. 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: So most of the time it's just really awkward and 220 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: neither of you are able to talk about it, or 221 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: maybe you might even get angry at them for it. 222 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 9: We you know, we're probably just starting to, you know, 223 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 9: get some wind under us and felt like we were 224 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 9: vibing in a group and a brainstorm and you came 225 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 9: in and you just tore it down. You were late, mom, 226 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 9: and didn't think anything was wrong. 227 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 10: There, but. 228 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 9: It felt for me like I felt a wave of anger. 229 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: This is tea usage. So how are you twenty four? 230 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, twenty four? 231 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: You're on the front line, like, first time producing national 232 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: show three months, you'd never produced before and no no 233 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: local content directors to support you, and that you're one 234 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: of the co hosts is unbelievably flat. 235 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 9: Oh flat? 236 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Do you have produced William Woody for three years? We 237 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: brought her over from Perth with us because she was 238 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: just an elite operator and we clicked. 239 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 2: But she never produced before. Oh yeah, wrap your head 240 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 2: around that. 241 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: So you was twenty four, never produced before and we 242 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: just started a national drive show with a team of 243 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: ten flat to say it was ballsy is It's probably wrong. 244 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: It was just stupid, particularly when I hadn't told her 245 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: how volatile that could be. 246 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: I remember being I don't know if you remember, being 247 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: on the floor. 248 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: In between breaks, like while songs were playing, often just 249 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: like crying or like holding back tears and then getting 250 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: up after the song finished, and just like having to 251 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: switch on. 252 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 9: Two and a half minutes of any shark from crying 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 9: and then right into her. Now he'll be right, guys, 254 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 9: you'll be right. 255 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: We just wouldn't have got through if Tea was a 256 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: lesser person. I should stress that she's one of eleven children. 257 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: She's also probably the best amateur basketballer in the country 258 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: and she's Croatian, So to say that she's strong would 259 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: be like saying that Nevill Longbottom was competent at her bology. 260 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 2: Just to stress how strong she is. 261 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: We actually nicknamed her the Beast, but by who she was, 262 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: the base was still intimidated. You are. 263 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 9: A big presence in the room as it is, so 264 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 9: to feel the opposite end of the spectrum so intensely 265 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 9: is it's pretty intimidating, especially for a young and new 266 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 9: leader of a team, and they're looking at me going 267 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 9: what are you going to do? And I'm still new 268 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 9: to the process and trying to figure you out and 269 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 9: how to help you, but how to remembering that there's 270 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 9: nine other members of our team to look after. That's 271 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 9: what it looks like to us. You were trying. You 272 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 9: were trying, but often when you were trying, you know, 273 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 9: the body language comes in and now eye contact. You're 274 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 9: quite hard to be around, but we've got to be 275 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 9: around you because you're about to put together two hours 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 9: of comedy. 277 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: So yourself. They were just sharking. 278 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 9: Sh We pushed through two shows, and those of those 279 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 9: I severely regret letting you stay. 280 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: This next part of the chat actually really breaks my heart. 281 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: There's really nothing worse than when you're suffering looking at 282 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: everybody else suffering around you because of you. 283 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 9: I could see the team down and tell them, hey, 284 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 9: we're not feeling great today. Let's get around him. And 285 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 9: another message to the team was, I mean, even if 286 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 9: he's going to he might bring the room down. We 287 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 9: have I like to call it the one the one job, 288 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 9: which is making sure wood he feels loved and supported. 289 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 9: Because you do, you bring the You bring the room down. 290 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 9: Every now and then I can see he's struggling, and 291 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 9: he'll always put you first. That man, he loves you 292 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 9: that much. He's always going to put you first. So 293 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 9: it meant that the team needed to put him first 294 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 9: and get around him and make him feel like even 295 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 9: if you told him his gag was shit, we thought 296 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 9: it was bloody hilarious. 297 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes his gags are ship. Can I just can I 298 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: can I just reiterate that not all the time, not 299 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: all the time. But I don't want to get him. 300 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: He doesn't get this depression cut Blanche, you know you 301 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: actually made me very much. You're hearing that that was 302 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: really touching you guys like. 303 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I look back on that and 304 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, just hearing. 305 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: All the effort that you went to to look after me, Like, yeah, 306 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: I thank you so much for all you did there. 307 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made it through without all that behind 308 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: the scenes work that you did. You were you were phenomenal. 309 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 9: Thank you. 310 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: But I also know that for you. 311 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: And correct me if I'm wrong here, But like you 312 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: do it a thousand times over like any other like 313 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: any other person, would you just you want to help 314 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: the people that you love. 315 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, nothing nothing to add just we we love you. 316 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: And it was really really dark time. It was actually 317 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: so shit. 318 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I think the first year that I had on radio 319 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: here was probably the hardest. 320 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: Year of my life. 321 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 9: I couldn't agree more. 322 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and as I wouldn't have got through it 323 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: without you, so thank you. 324 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 9: Well, let's start to your truth. 325 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: See when someone's in it, you're in the river, you're 326 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: flying down there, and in that instance, tear and Woody 327 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: would be the branch, which if I'm honest, if it 328 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: wasn't there to grab onto, then I would have been 329 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: swept away, probably forever. And I'm telling you that because 330 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: chances are, if you're not suffering, then you can be 331 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: somebody else's branch. I might have pushed that wood analogy 332 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: a little bit far. I didn't mean to call you 333 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: a twig, but I'll say it again. The crisis isn't 334 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: going to be solved by the people who are suffering. 335 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: It's by the people who aren't. 336 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: When the child rocks up with the parent, how much 337 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: are they suffering in that instance? 338 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, exactly. 339 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 9: Yeah. 340 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 11: Parents often come, you know, when they've been worried for 341 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 11: you know, sometime, and they've tried various things, and it 342 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 11: gets to a point where they think, oh, we need 343 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 11: some outside help. 344 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 2: See. 345 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: I said to you that one in five people will 346 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: suffer from mental health problems. This doesn't exclude children. It's 347 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: so funny that both parties are feeling this immense sorrow 348 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: or anguish for the other person, and largely that is 349 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: perpetuated by the fact that they don't have a means 350 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: of communicating with each other. This is Rachel Sampson. Rachel 351 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: is a bit of a gun in this area. She 352 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: runs an Instagram page called Australian Psychologist. You're going to 353 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: hear from her a little later on because she has 354 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: genuinely cracked the nut on this problem. Rachel does a 355 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: lot of work with families and largely kids and parents. 356 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I'll explain the way she solved the communicating without talking problem. 357 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: In the next episode. 358 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: Now, there is another part of this story that I 359 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: probably need to get you up to speed on. See, 360 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm a radio host, I'm not a chair of a charity, 361 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: and to get this idea off the ground, I can 362 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: help with the radio side of things. I can put 363 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: together a podcast, but we actually need a charity on 364 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: board for psychological expertise and guidance. This isn't the kind 365 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: of space you can just waltz into, claim there's a problem, 366 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: and then tell everyone how to solve it. It's not 367 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: like the world is not alert to the mental health crisis. 368 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: I'd be laughed out of the room. And not only 369 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: do we need a charity, but we also need money, 370 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: lots and lots of money, like hundreds of thousands of dollars. 371 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: But before I even try to pitch an idea that 372 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: doesn't exist just yet, and I start getting into who 373 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: we're going to reach out to for that money. It's 374 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: probably worth pointing out that we had a very very 375 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: big head start, and for that we need to embark 376 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: on a bit of a flashback. 377 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: We don't need road. 378 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Just like all great things that happened to you, this 379 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: flashback starts with a stupid game of who wants to 380 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: be a millionaire? With your best friend live on radio? 381 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: Where is the Great Wall of China? 382 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 7: Great Wall of China? 383 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: Options are China? Yeah? South Korea? 384 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 385 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: Right, India or Japan? 386 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 12: Yeah? 387 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: Do you want to use a lifeline or anything? 388 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 7: Can I call that absolutely again? 389 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: Are you ready? Yeah? Okay, here we go go. 390 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 7: Okay that I've got to be really quick hereyone? Who 391 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 7: wants to be a millionaire? 392 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 12: Dad? 393 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: Yep? 394 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 7: Okay? 395 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 8: So where is the Great Wall of China? Is it 396 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 8: a China, B, South Korea, C India or d Japan? 397 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 12: Well not South Korean? 398 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: Not Japan? 399 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 2: Ye could be bordering on India? 400 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 9: Could be a trick question. 401 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 7: Okay, good dad, this is good? 402 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 12: Or China is the obvious heads of China? 403 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 404 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 10: Probably bordered on India. I was going to speak, but 405 00:20:59,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 10: the phone. 406 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 7: The white lad boys take this seriously I'm going to 407 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 7: lock in India. 408 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Final answer, So with the question of where is the 409 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: Great Wall of China on you? 410 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: And that's it Intia? 411 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 13: What well? 412 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: Dad was? 413 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: Dad? 414 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: Let me there? So remarkably this clip goes viral in India. 415 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: We think it may have been censored in China, but 416 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: it goes on to clock up tens of millions of views. 417 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: It's actually well worth checking out online, if anything, just 418 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: to see our hairstyles back then. Amazingly though, it actually 419 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: caught the attention of Eddie Maguire when he was organizing 420 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: people to be on the celebrity version of Who Wants 421 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: to Be a Millionaire? 422 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 10: Why don't you just come on the show and at 423 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 10: least if you're making macup, you might guess you ways 424 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 10: through and win a million dollars. It's better than the 425 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 10: humiliator and on the show here on kis. 426 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 7: We're one that an invitation? 427 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 10: Absolutely, let's get Boody on. Okay, give him for the 428 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 10: big money. 429 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: Ime ridiculous, right, I'm sure we all have moments in 430 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: our lives where the secuence of events is stranger than fiction. 431 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: But thanks to arguably the greatest father son gaff since 432 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: William Tell, we actually had a shot on a celebrity 433 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire with actual celebrities. 434 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: There was just no way we were getting on there 435 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: without this. Have a listen to the rest of the lineup. 436 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 14: So let's meet our contestants tonight, and they are media 437 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 14: and music superstar Red Silence, Gold and Glove winning actress 438 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 14: and director Bright gel Griffiths, Comedian and LOGI winning actors 439 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 14: Stephen Curry, Ari Award winning superstar Hella Hooker, Gold LOGI 440 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 14: winner Samuel Johnson, and one half of willand Woody. 441 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Bready your host, Will mcbah. 442 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: You know you're out your league when the host lists 443 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: are nationally recognized or even internationally recognized award after each 444 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: person's name, But then when they say your name actually 445 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: has to remind everyone of what show you're on. The 446 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: point is we were totally out of our league. It 447 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: was wild, all right, would so can you just run 448 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: me through the dressing room? When we rocked up for 449 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? 450 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 7: It was embarrassing. 451 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: Was embarrassing. 452 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 7: It was very embarrassing. 453 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 8: It became very clear to both you and I that 454 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 8: every single celebrity that was on the show for Who 455 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 8: Wants to Be a Millionaire? 456 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 7: Had a dressing had a proper room. I forgot about 457 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 7: this a dressing room. 458 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: So like you know, but they're all starts. So each 459 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: of them was a celebrity. Griffith, she's been nominated for 460 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: asking but. 461 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 7: Sure for one opportunity of our lives. 462 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 8: We were also supposed to be addressed as celebrities and 463 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 8: something that one of the assistants said, Will, what do 464 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 8: you hear? A bit surprised that you guys actually rocked up, 465 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 8: but great, you're here, perfect. We'll show you to your 466 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 8: dressing room now. 467 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: And we had a selection of snacks, well a very 468 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: small selection, a selection of snacks. But they took us 469 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: to the corner of what it was a corner of 470 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: a room next to where the makeup was being done, 471 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: and they just put four makeshift walls around two deck 472 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: chairs effectively, and then in like text right on the wall, 473 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Will and Woody we were the only ones who didn't 474 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: have her own room. Well, we actually thought that was 475 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: pretty sweet to start with, to be because we didn't 476 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: know how good it could be. But then I'm pretty 477 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: sure when we bumped into Stephen Curry and his brother 478 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: Bernard Curry realized very quickly that they had their own 479 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: rooms with you know, their names officially written. 480 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: On the wall and the door. 481 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 7: Far better snacks as well as Snackswoman. 482 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: The snacks were noted. 483 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 7: They were getting rice, paper rolls and stuff. 484 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: We's got musly bars and fruit, and not even the 485 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: good fruit what means good for it. 486 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 7: We had just like apples. 487 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, in the Curry's room they had bananas and pineapple, pineapple, 488 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: far superior fruit. And I heard a rumor that Melanie 489 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: Griffith had mango in her room. Jesus Christ, just a 490 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: rumor because I never got close to her green. 491 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: Room, Jessing room. No. No, she was a big deal. 492 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: She was the moment when we were like, ge whiz, 493 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: there are some libs here. 494 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah. 495 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: She rolled in with rollers in her hand. 496 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 15: For the briefing should point out that her name is 497 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 15: Rachel Griffith, not Melanie Griffith. Griffith Griffith, Oh my god, 498 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 15: thank you, Joel. 499 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: She's going to kill us. 500 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 7: Who's Melanie Griffith. She'd be the woman who was married 501 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 7: to Antonio bandanis hilarious, Oh my god. 502 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: Rodrick is the actress. 503 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 15: Of course, Yeah, she was in blow with Johnny Depp. 504 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 15: I think I just realized that I was calling a 505 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 15: Melanie on the day potentially. 506 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my, I. 507 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 7: Thought I didn't think there were two people. I thought 508 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 7: there was only one. Griffith. Griffith's Griffith's my god, it's Rachel. 509 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: Needless to say, we were absolutely shitting ourselves, but it 510 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: also meant that we had a shot at winning a 511 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: whole bunch of money to go into the app or 512 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: at the very least to create a relationship with a 513 00:25:55,320 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: charity who was aligned to our courts. That's speaking, Yeah, Gus, 514 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's Will and and what do you 515 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: hear from Will Willem? 516 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 7: I don't know why that was so hard to mate. 517 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 7: How many calls to different people going get ads? Will 518 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 7: hear from Will? And that's a balling staff. 519 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: No, this is Gus Warland, possibly a living, talking, and 520 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 1: breathing contradiction. 521 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 2: Of the phrase nice guys. 522 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: Finished last he hosted the award winning breakfast radio show 523 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: The Grill Team in Sydney for years. He's on the 524 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: Today Show all the time and he's done documentaries on 525 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: the Australian cricket team and He's also literally Hugh Jackman's 526 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: best friend. Importantly, though, he left all of that behind 527 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: when one of his best mates took his own life. 528 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 12: My friend Angus, he was just amazing boys, he who 529 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 12: to me was the epitome of what a man was. 530 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 12: He seemed to have all the answers and good looking 531 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 12: at a lovely family. He seemed to be very successful 532 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 12: and everything he did, and he never asked for help. 533 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 12: He literally was the guy you had some problems, and 534 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 12: he took his own life on the night that his 535 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 12: third and final child finished their HC. 536 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: Jesus Ye. 537 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 12: So he had a big circle in his diaries like that. 538 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 16: Was the day that he was You'd check out and 539 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 16: it was just incredibly sad for everyone. So I then 540 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 16: realized that the funeral was twelve hundred guys and girls 541 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 16: there and we're all looking at each other going. 542 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 12: Did you have any idea? Did you have any idea? 543 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: Since then, he's embarked on a pretty amazing mission. 544 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: Got You for Life, which is all about and what 545 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: do you say, vanquishment of suicide eradication. 546 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 12: Well, it's certainly it's I think it's a it's a 547 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 12: it's literally the biggest crisis we've got in this country 548 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 12: at the moment, certainly the number one way to pass 549 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 12: if you're an augy mail. So that's bad enough, isn't it. Yeah, 550 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 12: And it's just about building little fitness and making sure 551 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 12: you've got just like you two guys as one person 552 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 12: who's got you for life. You can have that aughts 553 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 12: and all conversation with and get out of banter just 554 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 12: at the right time if you need to, because we 555 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 12: live in banter a little bit too much. In oz. 556 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: Gus's attitude towards mental health is just so refreshing. He's 557 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: earnest when he needs to be, but punctuates it with 558 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: liveliness and even sometimes humor. So given how much we 559 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: felt like our causes aligned with his, both Woods and 560 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: I just absolutely loved the way he talks about the issue, 561 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: we decided to give him all the cash we'd won. 562 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Luckily we were still rolling, so he managed to kept 563 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the moment when we told him off air, So we. 564 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, we were invited gas. So we have been invited. 565 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 8: Onto a TV show next week Who Wants to Be 566 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 8: a Millionaire Celebrity Edition? So first of all, cop it, mate, 567 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 8: you didn't get the iner. 568 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 7: I can't believe we've got you there. Apparently it was 569 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 7: between us and Gus Wallen and we got you. 570 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 8: But the second thing is made all the money that 571 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 8: we make on who Wants to be a Millionaire next 572 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 8: week so it's Monday, and all that money goes towards 573 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 8: a charity. 574 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's every celebrity that's going to be involved, and 575 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 7: we've chosen Beyond Blue. So we just wanted to rub 576 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 7: it in. 577 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 9: The spot in the show. 578 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 12: You're actually going to the competitor. 579 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 7: And actually have you got Beyond Blues number? 580 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 12: Because anything at all will be absolutely huge. So thank 581 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 12: you so much, boys, from the bottom of my heart 582 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 12: if you thought of us and go out and get 583 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 12: and get the million boys. 584 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not you for a million, Gus. 585 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm to be. 586 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 12: Careful with your lifelines. Don't go too early with your lifelives. 587 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 7: All right, we're doing you a favorite. 588 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, now, all of a sudden, you're guilt is 589 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: there is not a chance for you to emotionally blackmails. 590 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 7: It was a favor. We appreciate the thanks. 591 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: We're going with as much money as we can and 592 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: we won't feel bad if we fail out. 593 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: It's the last message. 594 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 7: Great to speak to you. 595 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure as always, mate, And I suppose so 596 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: we're on, we're on Monday next week, and if we 597 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: don't get on Monday with the fastest finger first thing, 598 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: then I think it goes over to Tuesday. So we'll 599 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: know by Monday or Tuesday how much we've got you 600 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: forgot your for life and hopefully yeah, as you said, 601 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: just getting some more cash into arguably the biggest crisis 602 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: that the world faces right now, which is people taking 603 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: their own lives crazy. You just think that we're saying that, 604 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: but that's reality, and I can't think of a better 605 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: place to go for the cash to go to. 606 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 12: So boys, you're brilliant. I love you very manch through 607 00:30:59,520 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 12: the smile. 608 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: So given that we are in a flashback right now, 609 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: I can probably do all of you guys a favor 610 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: and just flash forward to the moment where Woods and 611 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: I actually went on who Wants to be a Millionaire 612 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: with Eddie and want a shitload of cash for your 613 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: listening pleasure. I also had Gust record himself while he 614 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: watched the episode when we won, because I knew his 615 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: reactions would be gold. I didn't know they'd be this 616 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: good but he definitely didn't disappoint. You can still see 617 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: it online on Will and Woodie. So just while you're 618 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: listening to this, if you want to go and check 619 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: it out, please do. But also please remember we are 620 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: absolutely shitting ourselves. 621 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: Like we're on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? 622 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: Edie Maguire is there, Stephen Curry's there, Red Simon's is 623 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: sitting behind me. I've delayed him. I beat him in 624 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: fastest finger first. And more importantly, we're gambling with tens 625 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars and it's not our money, like 626 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: I would have felt bad enough if it was my 627 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: own cash, let alone for a mental health charity where 628 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: it could really make a difference. 629 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 12: Well, just about to watch the boys in Who Wants 630 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 12: to be a Millionaire? 631 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 10: Well, d. 632 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: You got bread? 633 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 12: You got bread? 634 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 2: Brand coming icic swimming stroke is the doggie? What paddle? Baby? 635 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 7: Unlucky style wasn't an option, but yes, I think, I wow. 636 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: Come on luck in my god? All right, come on, 637 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: twisted a man? Correct you, I'm sorry, Rad, you have 638 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: to hold that cab. 639 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 10: Come on, all right, come on. 640 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: One sixty. 641 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: Whoa who the boys that Lobo wanted It was the 642 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: dumb radio command. 643 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: The check you have sixty. 644 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 14: Four thousands well and money from kidspe God true. 645 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: So there you go. Have you any for Gussie? We 646 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: go on doing a shitload of cash for him. Here's 647 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: him on air the next day. So us choosing Gotcha 648 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: for life was just a no brainer. Really we won 649 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: them sixty four thousand dollars and we've got the founder 650 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: and CEO right now and Gus wall and who joins 651 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: us on the phone. 652 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: What a night. 653 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 12: It was unbelievable. Bull the words that your logic worked out, 654 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 12: questions putty, the way you just stood in the background 655 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 12: and just eight year snacks and stuff. 656 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: It was. 657 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 7: What were you expecting last night? How much did you 658 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 7: think we'd make? 659 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 12: Look because I'd watch because I'd watch the night before 660 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 12: and stuff as well, and I knew that some people 661 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 12: don't okay and others weren't so flash. I was thinking, 662 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 12: if you could anything over one thousand dollars would have 663 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 12: been because one thousand dollars. If you think forty dollars 664 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 12: will get someone a guy or a girl in front 665 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 12: into one of our workshops, and that could literally save 666 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 12: someone's life. You just don't know, because when you're working 667 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 12: in prevention. It's very hard to judge, so anything is fantastic. 668 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 12: Once I got to thirty two and I was like, 669 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 12: oh my god, like this is just life changing for 670 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 12: us as at the foundation, and then the sixty four 671 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 12: Oh my god. 672 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, this is Gus reacting to 673 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: and as you said, Gus, this is monumental cash for 674 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: you as a charity. 675 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: You got your flat. You can hear it. How all 676 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: listen to this? Yeah, well I'm sixty. 677 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 7: Couple of complaints from the neighbors, Gus. 678 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 12: I mean went in this morning. I apologize when I 679 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 12: put the fins out, and they were like, nicklass Nutter, 680 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 12: you and Vicky decided to have another kid or something. 681 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 12: I know how much snow it means to us as 682 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 12: a foundation, but more than that, just the way that 683 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 12: you guys live your life. It's not the sixty four thousand. 684 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 12: It's the fact that you're a living example of what 685 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 12: gotcha for life is all about. And if imagine if 686 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 12: everyone listening to us now had someone that they could 687 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 12: talk to, that they can confide in, that they could 688 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 12: love like you two boys, we would get to that 689 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 12: zero suicide, which is what we're all about. It gotcha 690 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 12: for life. So you've done more than the money boys. 691 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 12: You're just You're sitting an example every day and I 692 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 12: could not be prouder to have you as ambassadors. I 693 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 12: couldn't be proud to have you as mates, and I 694 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 12: cannot wait for us to go on a journey together. 695 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 12: Because zero suicides. I was laughed off the planet because 696 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 12: there's so many people in structor in strife. But we 697 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 12: can do it and not fart. That showed. With a 698 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 12: bit of passion and love, anything is possible, all right. 699 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: So flash back over and you're about to find out 700 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: in the next episode of Share My Mood, Gus may 701 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: actually be the link we need to get this app 702 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: off the ground. 703 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: I'll explain a little bit more later. 704 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: But whilst Gus and this millionaire stuff is a really 705 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: great story, he himself is also really symptomatic of what 706 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: I've been speaking about this whole episode. It's about you, 707 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: the people who have to live with them, the people 708 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: who have to love them, and sometimes the people that 709 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: have to lose them. Keep in mind, the only reason 710 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: Gus is doing this is because he lost his mate. 711 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: I'll say it again, this crisis won't be solved by 712 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: those who are suffering, but don't just get involved for them, 713 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: get involved for you. Move beyond the surface of your 714 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: relationships with your friends. It might be scary at first, 715 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: but the only thing you'll find is just a deeper connection. 716 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 12: I then realized that the funeral always twelve hundred guys 717 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 12: and girls there, and we're all looking at each other 718 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 12: going did you have any idea? 719 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: Did you have any idea? 720 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 12: That started the journey for me to find out why 721 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 12: we lose so many beautiful blokes? So hit the program 722 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 12: man up on the ABC, and that was me challenging 723 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 12: masculinity and wondering more, we're losing so many blokes And 724 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 12: that started off Got Your Life after that, and my 725 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 12: relationships now boys with my own son who's now twinky, 726 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 12: my daughter's boyfriends, my friends, my schoolmates, my work boats 727 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 12: are so much deeper because I've just decided, you know what, 728 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 12: love me the way I am. I'm going to be open, 729 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 12: honest and vulnerable. If you don't like it, well that's 730 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 12: fine with me. And it's just enriched my life. And 731 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 12: I'm trying to sort of build that emotional muscle up 732 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 12: on in most doses because I think we're still got 733 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 12: this old fashioned stereotime. I'll be right, mate, leave me alone. 734 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 12: I'm going to ury by emotion. 735 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: Hide it behind footy chat and a whole bunch of 736 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: psychasm and whatever you can. 737 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 12: It's going to be on the Dante. 738 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: So this app is about you, This podcast is about you. 739 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: And I can say that because the expression is unilateral, 740 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: because whether you're suffering or you have to live with 741 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: the ones who do, the bridge has got to be 742 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: built from both sides. 743 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: In order to find the connection that will generate the prevention. 744 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: Next on Share My Mood, I uncover the main block 745 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: as to why people don't share their mood? Am I 746 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: right in saying here that that sense of I'm being 747 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: a burden on you can develop that young and then 748 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: be something that we carry with. 749 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: Us a whole life. 750 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: Yes, I think absolutely. 751 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: And I'm forced to pitch live on air to a 752 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: tech guru. 753 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm getting told that we've got a sixty second clock, 754 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, No. 755 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 13: I think sixty seconds is good only because you know 756 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 13: the elevator pitch if you can't tot of crystallize it 757 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 13: to that moment in time, and it's really hard to 758 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 13: be able to not only build something, but sell it 759 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 13: in a way that people can understand and digest quickly. 760 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 13: So it's a critical first step. 761 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: Keep in mind the clock's ticking the channel just to 762 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: build this app in a few weeks. 763 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 2: Please get involved. 764 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: If you're tuning into the radio show tomorrow from fourtill six, 765 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. We'll talk about it 766 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: again otherwise I'll see you next time. Share My Mood 767 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: is produced by Jackson mcclennan. All music by Robert Bremner. 768 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: The cover design is by Lucky Seu And a huge 769 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: thank you to my co host and best mate Woody 770 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: Whitelaw for suffering me, and also to my whole team 771 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: who have continued to support a pipe dream. Here a 772 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: big shout out to my partner Sam as well, who 773 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: has just been the biggest of supports while I'm trying 774 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: to do all this and nothing. 775 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 2: Else in my life. Just a quick reminder before I 776 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 2: go that. 777 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: If anything in the podcast brought up anything for you 778 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: where you feel like you need to talk to someone, 779 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: then you can call Lifeline on thirteen eleven fourteen. 780 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: They'll listen to you no matter what your problem is. 781 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: That's the amazing part of the service, so use it 782 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,280 Speaker 1: thirteen eleven fourteen