WEBVTT - FULLSHOW! Looking for love? This Aussie found hers in a federal prison!! 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:14.800 Laura, come on in. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:20.760 Welcome to the pickup Follow Australia. 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.040 Hello, Hello, Hi guy. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:25.360 Into our chemistry house today. Great savings every day. I 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.400 just thought I saw a Hickey on Britney Hockey's next 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:28.000 like a. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.760 Boyfriend lives in Scotland FaceTime. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.559 Can you wonders these days? You have that phone on 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:35.440 your neck for a little bit. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.760 That's a heat that's doesn't anything on my neck. 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.400 Mixt you're trying to make something. There's nothing on my neck. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.239 I'm sure Britney Hickley, Brittany Hickley. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:47.600 Stop it. There's not a single thing there I could have. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.720 Speaking of Hockey Hickley, My my sister Sherry is staying 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.800 with me at the moment. She's on she's in transition. 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.200 She's moving overseas for the next two years with her 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.240 husband Jay. So they've crashed in mind for a while 0:00:59.240 --> 0:01:03.680 because at homeless. But this morning I witnessed something that 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.160 I just thought was absolutely hilarious, something you've probably done, Mitch. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.319 We were unpacking the groceries. We have grocery shopping. You know, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.480 you can get different nuts and chocolates and stuff in 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.520 the little plastic bags and you put the barcat on 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:15.119 the scoot mix. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:16.880 Yeah, it's like the help yourself so. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.920 You can have this huge bag or small bag. Anyway, 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:22.559 Sherry was unpacking the groceries and she went healthy leather 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.319 into the scoop bag to pull out what she thought 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.480 was a coconut rough chocolate. Oh yeah, nice, Well it was, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:31.280 in fact, which she learnt very quickly, I had gotten 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:37.200 Delilah some pure liver treats raw liver tree because the 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.440 dog trees also have a help yourself scoof pix. So 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.640 she put this whole giant liver tree in her mouth, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.240 projective on to straight into the ground because it smells 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:46.480 like pure awful. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.920 But guess how silky smooth her hair is going to 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.680 be beautiful, very She's very shiny. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:56.960 I'm more offend of the brit said Mitch. This is 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.520 something that you. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.440 Might which is also confused. You don't strike me as 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.320 a dog food eat No, no, not to. 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:03.640 The fancy feace cat section. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.160 No, you've eaten dog food. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:05.640 You've told me. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.600 Let's start the show. Listen, the dating game in this 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.680 country has gotten so bad. Imagine having to fly over 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.240 to the US to meet a pen pow that you've 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.680 been talking to who is serving time in a federal prison. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.440 Oh look, long distance is bad enough, but that is 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:23.520 just grim. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:25.800 It's on the way here at the pickup around the country. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.760 If you want to go to the King's Coronation in 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.840 the UK as well your tickets to fly to London 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.240 in the next fifteen minutes. It's the pickup with Britt, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.520 Laura and Midge Thursday RVO. If you're stuck on a 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.240 Mother's Day gift chemist warehouse, have you covered with big 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.280 brand fragrances at the host prices chemist Warehouse They've got 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.160 great savings. Every day. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:49.240 Ask Now, Ask Guncart is a segment that we do 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.240 every week on Life on Can't. It's where you guys 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.440 ride in with your deep you're dark and you're burning questions. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:56.880 But we actually have someone on the line today who 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.480 has called in with a real dilemma. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.760 Hi, you're needing our help. What are you hi? 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.399 Guys, Yes, hi, Hi, I think bring me on. I 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:14.840 definitely need some advice and your help. So my boyfriend 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.359 and I are just sort of going through a bit 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:22.160 of a rough patch at the moment. Basically, when I 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.320 started seeing him, I was a bit of a gym 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.120 rat going every day really into my body because I 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.600 haven't had the best self esteem, and he's just been 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.320 I haven't been going as much lately because I've just 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.400 been doing uniful time. I put on a little bit 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.880 of weight, and he's actually been quite critical of my 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.680 body and the fact that I'm not going to the 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.360 gym like as much as I used to. So I'm 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.760 in a real like weird. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.160 Place that how long have you guys been together for 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:53.800 We've been. 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.680 Together for like two years? Just about what's this. 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.000 When you say he's being critical? What are we talking here? 0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.800 Do you have an example? 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.880 He so basically saying, oh, like what, why why aren't 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.240 you going in the gym as much? And is Yeah, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.480 so he's asking me and if am I getting too 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:15.680 comfortable like in the relationship. So I'm like, oh, like no, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.840 I'm just quite stressed out trying to just basically live 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.920 a busy life. So he's just sort of made little 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:26.919 sly comments about that, and then also like, oh, you 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.760 don't look you know, it's not what I signed up for. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.440 Basically, get at has he made any comments about your 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:35.640 physical appearance more so than just like, oh, you know, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.280 you're not being as active recently? But has he made 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:43.320 any comments that like directly a criticizing the way you look, 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:44.760 you know, the fact that you put on weight. 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.520 Yeah, so I've got like my favorite like pair of jeans, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.440 but I you know those genes that just make you 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:57.040 look so hot. Yeah, I've worn I've worn them basically 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:58.800 since the day I've met him because I'm like one 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:03.039 of my staples and I'm basically struggling to get into 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.200 them and you know, I'm just sort of hanging out 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.120 of them a bit. And he made a comment about that, like, oh, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.200 you don't look like they don't look that good. Should 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:15.520 you get maybe new genes? And I'm like, oh, like, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:16.320 what's that true? 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.600 He needs to go? She has? 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:18.560 He has? 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.400 He has he made any other comments like directly towards 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:21.719 your way? 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:27.039 Yeah, he has. He's basically said, I'm not as attractive 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.359 to you as much as we started dating, and he's like, 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:34.120 it's kind of obviously put on a few kilos and. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:35.280 Oh my gosh. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.919 Yeah, So it's been brutal to say the least. 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.000 Well, firstly, I mean, I hope you don't take that 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.640 to heart, because that is really shit on his behalf. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.320 And like we all know we don't base our worth 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.600 on if we fit into our favorite pair of jeans anymore. 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.600 But also everyone fluctuates, what is he gonna think You're 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.400 gonna stay the same size for the rest of your relationship. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.359 Oh that's the thing. I obviously didn't know what I 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:06.240 was signing up for, and him being so critical. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.599 Well, you're not signing up for anything. It's a relationship, 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.400 but you're like not getting a car Loan. I'm assuming 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.120 he's the picture of health and he's got a six 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.839 pack and he's fully obviously Jason. Yeah, of course, I'm 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:18.520 sure he's it. Yeah. 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.640 I mean, look, he likes to work out and be active, 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.960 but he doesn't have. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.400 A sick like he's not. 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.160 He's not the fittest guy in the world. So I 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.560 think that's where I struggle with it. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.159 It has a changed physically, in the chemistry and stuff 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.000 like that, Like do you think he's back? 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.520 Yeah, okay, but that's disgusting. 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.159 No matter what's happened. You need to leave him. I don't. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.200 I don't know. You need to get out of that relationship. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.280 She needs to be with someone that can respect her, 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.640 regardless of her size, big or small. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.280 Do you know what Shelley, how okay where you are 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.880 in terms of this conversation with him? Because I would 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:53.680 love to I mean, I would love to speak to him. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.080 I would love to kind of understand whether this is 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.680 something that he thinks is a deal breaker in your relationship. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.440 But also I kind of want to tell him what 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:04.599 we think about this and how outrageous it is for 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.120 him to have control over the way you look. 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.400 Yeah, I mean that's kind of scary because i'd But. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.160 Are you happy for the Pickup'll be very. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:19.920 Why don't we talk to you off air. Let's get 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.360 his number and then we can. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:22.640 Call him after the break. 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.160 If your comfortable, Shelley, let's come back and let's give 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.640 him a piece of piece of our mind. 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.040 I think we've got to do it. 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:29.760 What's his name? 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:31.280 His name is Jack. 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.600 Your name's Jack, and you've got a girl friendnamed Shelley. 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.960 All right, we'll return with that next Here the pick up. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.880 It's the pick up Thursday afternoon, Britt, Laura and Mitch 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.440 headed to chemist whare House today. Great savings every day. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:47.160 If you're just tuning in, we didn't ask guncut moments 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.480 ago on the show where we let our listeners write 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.280 into us a question, an issue they're facing in their life, 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.960 and we give them advice on the air. Sometimes it hits, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:55.760 sometimes it misses. 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:57.800 Now we have Shelley on the line as she called 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:01.480 up because her boyfriend has been very critical about her 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:03.840 weight since she's stopped going to the gym. You know, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.480 life gets in the ways sometimes and you can't be 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.520 as active as what you used to be. And it 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.800 seems as though he's been giving her a bit of 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:13.040 an ultimatum in terms of her weight. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:14.760 Well, he told her he's not as attracted to her 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:15.800 anymore now that she's bigger. 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:16.160 Yeah. 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.560 Well, yeah, So we did what any normal person would 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:19.640 do when we decided to call him. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.840 Shelley's here. Hey, Shelley, Hey, guys, just want to make 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.960 sure you're okay if we patch Jack through and we asked, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.480 what's going on? Where is the heads at? 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.560 Yeah, that's okay. I'm a little man, but I think no, it's. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:37.719 Good, all right, all right, hold on line Jackie there. Yeah, Jack, Hi, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.120 we are from the pick up. We have been speaking 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.520 to your partner, your lovely partner, Shelley, live on the air, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:44.840 but you are live on air. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:46.880 What's going on? 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:51.040 Well, you tell us because Shelley has just said that 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:53.480 you have a bit of a problem with her gaining 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:54.880 a bit of weight lately because she hasn't been going 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:56.280 to the gym too much. So we just thought that 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.000 we wanted to get your take on what was happening. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.040 Look, you know, like when you sort of, hey, Shelley, look, 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.840 when you sign up, come on, hold on a minute, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.080 when you sign up for a relationship, you sort of 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.720 you think you know what you're getting and then things 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.000 sort of just change over time, which is like fine, 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.640 but maybe just it'd be nice if a little more 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:22.480 effort be put in, Like jam Jack. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.840 Can I just understand Is it the fact that Shelley's 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.480 not going to the gym as much because it's from 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.040 an exercise perspective and like getting out being active, or 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.200 is it purely because she's put on weight. 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.760 Well, it's just like sorry, baby, you sit at home 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.280 and you're like, oh, it looks so fat today, and 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.800 it's like, well, do something about it, like I do, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.800 like you know, and I just like, can we go easy, guys? 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.360 I just encouraging that maybe she just get off her 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.760 ass and like exercise. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.160 Okay, go easy. 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.240 I need to get back to the start, why do 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.040 you love Shelley? Do you love her because of just 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:55.800 her body when you met her, or do you love 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.360 her for who she is as a person and what's 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:57.960 on the inside. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.680 That's what I'm saying is like this doesn't excuse that, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.720 like my feelings for her like I do. I can't 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.000 even believe we're sort of talking about this like this, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.000 Shelley like a bit extra, don't you think? But of 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.559 course I still love you. But just like if you 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.120 want to make a change, make a change, otherwise things 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:15.640 will change. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.720 As I'm saying, well, Jack, that's the reason why we 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.440 wanted to call was because of the thing that you said. 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:23.000 When you say, look, I'm not as attracted to you anymore, 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.839 it does make it an ultimatum. So if Shelley wasn't 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.400 to lose weight, if she was to stay at the 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:30.880 weight that she is now, or god forbid, gain more weight, 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.079 how would that affect your feelings for her? 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.080 Well, what would you do if your partner just got fat. 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.960 I'm happily married. He can get as fat as he wants. 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:39.880 He's wonderful. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.280 And because I think when you sign up a relationship, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.439 you sign up for it knowing that you love that person, 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.920 and also that they may not stay the same weight 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:48.480 for forever. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.959 I'm thinking the only person that's leaving here, Jacket Shelley. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.720 Sorry, Jack, you're a pig of a man. How can 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.280 you wake up every day and talk to your partner 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:59.840 in this way and on live radio and not her 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.040 nor feeling and know it's hurting her feelings. You have 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.920 no right to tell her how her body should look 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.200 in any way, shape or form, and you should be attracted. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.120 I didn't didn't make the phone called to the radio station, dude. 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:11.840 But that's how upset she is. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:15.839 Jack, I've been catfish Sosh. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.480 Yeah, well you know what she You catfished her with 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:23.440 your personality. Personality catfish Shelly. 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:24.640 How does that make you feel? 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:25.480 Oh? 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.160 Pretty devastated to be honest, because he knows from the start, 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.000 even when I was going to the gym, I had 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.120 the worst self esteem and I struggle with it daily. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:39.319 So it's like it's yes, stab in the chest for sure. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.720 I just don't know if I can. I don't know 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.920 if I can do it. I just I feel really disconflicted. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.880 Will when you hear Jack speak like this and also 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.160 know that so much of like his want to be 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.120 in the relationship is also based on the way you look. 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.320 What do you think is the outcome for you? What 0:11:59.360 --> 0:11:59.880 do you want? 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.760 I mean deep down, I just I know it's not 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.720 going to work, and I know I deserve better, But 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.040 it's so hard when you've been with someone that there's 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.760 been so many good times and you love him so much, 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.400 and it's like, I don't know, I just know. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.520 I think we need to let this doesn't have to 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.880 happen on airshow. You need to talk to Jack off air, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.920 But I think you need to be with someone who 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.600 isn't as disgusting and low life as Jackie. Jack will 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.400 find an equally as disgusting gott a swamp out there 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.000 that it's perfect for him, And there is absolutely someone 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:37.520 out there. 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:39.960 You need to find someone who loves you, regardless of 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.200 who loves you and a few extra kilos you put on, 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:43.360 who cares. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:47.360 Totally piss off. I've turned him off. I couldn't listen 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.400 to that voice any Yeah, what a graph. 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:50.839 He was about to go on a tangent too, I 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:51.320 could hear it. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:51.599 I do. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.040 I think that's what you signed up for. 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:55.560 Don't be in a relationship with someone who makes you 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:56.200 feel worthless. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.040 Yeah, we'll patch you out through the producer Toney. If 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.640 you need anything or if you need some help or support, 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.080 we got you, Okayshelle, thank you? All right everyone. If 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:03.800 you want to get advice like that or a Jerry 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:04.680 Springer moment. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.880 Into such a do you not want to be doing 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.440 that on the rate, let me just say that's the 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.400 first time and ask on cuts have ever gone that road? 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.840 Yeah, DMS the pickup and we'll get you on the air, 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.120 all right. Next Biking I Love. This is the next 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:22.000 on the show. A couple that could potentially be the 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.920 first couple to ever meet via prison pen power. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:26.360 No, it's not the first. 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.439 Really common mech people are in relationships all over the 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:30.240 world with prisoners. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.600 There's an Australian girl who found the dating scene in 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.720 this country so hard. She's going to meet her new 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.160 partner in prison in the US and we will talk 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:38.800 to her next prison. 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:41.920 That grim Prinda. 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.960 It's the pick up around the country, Britt, Laura and Mitch. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.679 Here I head into campus warehouse today. Great Savings every 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.160 Day Girls. An Aussie woman, Savannah Pheifer, has fallen in 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.440 love with her American prisoner pen Pow. So she's a 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.600 fly and flyout worker over in Perth. She's really busy, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.280 can't really lock someone down and fire love. So what 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.319 she's done is she's just gone and flout out to 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.040 Nevada in the United States. Let's cross over to Nevada 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.480 now because we actually have Savannah joining us. Hi Savannah, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.160 you're not in the prison right now while you're at home. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.439 Hi Savannah, I'm. 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:14.960 Not at the prison. 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:15.280 Hi. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.560 Hi Samana. I love that Mitch just said. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.440 You've flown over there to speak to someone you've had 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.360 correspondence with. But it's your boyfriend, isn't it Alex who 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.000 is in prison in Nevada? Is your boyfriend? 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:25.600 Yes? 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:27.880 And so how did you get, Like I have a 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.800 billion questions, Let's start from the start. How did you 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.280 get to the point where you were at penpal with 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:33.040 someone in prison? 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.320 Going back through about two and a half years ago, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:39.160 I saw a TikTok of a girl who was doing 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.120 something actually for like a university course. She was writing 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:44.080 a penpal and he was really good at art, so 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.240 she turned his art into stickers, sold it on Etsy. 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.080 Was making him money like a release fund, basically help 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.280 him when he gets out. So I kind of wanted 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.760 to do the same thing. I wrote to somebody through 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.960 Write a Prisoner, which is a website, not Alex, somebody else. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.360 They wrote me one letter. I wrote them back and 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.120 I never actually heard from them again. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:12.320 A prisoner pretty much. 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.200 But turned out to the best thing really, because he 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.640 is actually friends with Alex and said, well, he started 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.000 speaking to somebody else and he found a connection, so 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.240 he passed my details on to Alex. And at first 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.000 I was really mad. I was like, how like you 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.040 just what? I obviously received his letter. He didn't attach 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.160 a picture to it, but it has got what's called 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.680 their badge number, so I can look up their badge 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.840 number within the divided justice system, and it shows you 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.800 their like mug shop. It shows you all the crimes 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.520 that they've ever done. It gives you their height, their weight, 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.880 their hair color. So I knew everything about him. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.560 So, Savannah, what did Alex do? Why is Alex in prison? 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.280 So he got done for robbery, assault on battery with 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.080 a deadly weapon causing so their bodily heart okay, and so. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:58.960 Was there any part of you? 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.560 Yeah, that a bit like ooh, I don't want to 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.360 date someone like that, or well, how did you think 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:05.040 I'm gonna love it. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:10.400 Well, not really, because all parties involved weren't innocent. Like, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.160 it wasn't against women and children, It wasn't some little 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.640 innocent person in a shop or in a corner store 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.600 that was like held up with a guy. It wasn't 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.440 anything like that per se. So everyone involved there were 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:24.160 no innocent parties involved in Obviously, the circumstances surrounding the 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.400 situation had a lot to do with his upbringing and 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.600 the situations he sort of was put in. 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.360 What was the first contact line tell us everything? 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.560 So because his prison is actually what they consider a camp, 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.640 so it's minimum, so he managed to work his level 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:40.920 from a maximum to a minimum to the point now 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.280 where he's like the lowest pretty much of custody. So 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.680 they're a lot more lenient with certain things. So I 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.080 was the only person in visitation. You meet the correction officers, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.560 they walk you into the room. Alex was already waiting 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.760 there with like all the snacks and games and everything 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:59.680 set up, and then they just walked out. Oh yeah, 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.160 he sucks that connect four. I'm totally winner. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:04.560 Oh how long is he in for? 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:04.840 Like? 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:06.000 How long are you going to have to do this? 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:06.240 Long? 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.680 Distance before you're able to actually be in a relationship 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:09.720 on the outside world. 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.840 He expires in January twenty twenty six, so he can 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.600 actually parole in July twenty twenty five. But due to 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.159 good behavior, he's been able to get a lot of 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.520 time reduced off of a sentence, So for every month 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.560 that he's in camp, his sentence actually gets reduced by 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.600 ten days every month that he's in Do you. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.320 Get to like kiss, be physical. 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.680 In certain prisons? Yes, but now there's no glass. It's 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.760 literally just him and I in the whole room. So yeah, 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:37.400 whole hands, the whole time. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:43.240 Kiss and yeah whatever. I'm a conjugal I'm not I'm 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.159 not being critical. I genuinely want to know. Was the 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.080 dating pool just so bad in Perth that you had 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.560 to resort to a prison pen power? 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.560 I woulded sarily say, is that bad? Because I can't 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.760 really put my experiences on everybody else, but the lack 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:02.600 of effort and the lack of emotional connection things like, 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:06.000 for example, I work first, I work in the poolbra Desert. 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.360 Alex got a bunny rabbit made like a Teddy beit 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.520