Speaker 1: Laura, come on in.
Speaker 2: Oh, hello, Hello, say everything. Mitch.
Speaker 3: I have a new trend that I have found that
Speaker 3: has come back in.
Speaker 2: It's doing the rounds.
Speaker 3: It's been about fifteen twenty years since it was very fashionable.
Speaker 2: Why did you aim mistress at though I'm not in fashion.
Speaker 3: Huh you'll know when it's well, no, you're not, but
Speaker 3: you'll know what I tell you because I think it's
Speaker 3: something Mitch should give it. Well, okay, the ballet flat,
Speaker 3: the shoe is making it. Yeah, is making a proper comeback.
Speaker 3: But not only the ballet flat. They have this one
Speaker 3: ballet flat that's going viral that's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you've seen it. It's it's black lace. The flat
Speaker 3: like it's like mesh. So it's it's almost got no soul.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's like something Kanye West would we
Speaker 3: don't have you. But it's nothing. It's just a bit
Speaker 3: of mesh. It's not a shoe. It's like you accidentally
Speaker 3: slipped at the fishing market and got a net on
Speaker 3: you and then you got stuck in deside to keep walking.
Speaker 2: That's what's making this comeback.
Speaker 1: I can't get them.
Speaker 4: Think it's going to be good for me. The amount
Speaker 4: of tinia I got on my feet. They might air
Speaker 4: them out and actually.
Speaker 2: Fixed me out, doesn't I mean, I haven't seen these
Speaker 2: mesh ones, but I mean I remember being at Uni
Speaker 2: and wearing ballet flats every day, and they stink and
Speaker 2: they're small, and there's no adult that should be walking
Speaker 2: around in a pair of ballet flats.
Speaker 4: Ballet flats Awakening, I'll put my sister's block ballet flats
Speaker 4: on a prance around the house.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's how I know.
Speaker 2: I've had a picture for you. Do you know what
Speaker 2: else is back in fashion? Wearing dresses over pants off
Speaker 2: the back of Barbie. It was a real nineties thing,
Speaker 2: and I've seen it back again. And all of these
Speaker 2: things when they come round for Rown two makes me
Speaker 2: just feel so old.
Speaker 4: PSA to the nation where the higher fashion. The three
Speaker 4: of us put down the ballet flats.
Speaker 2: I haven't type.
Speaker 4: Don't just step away joining us on the show today, Ossie.
Speaker 4: Superstar Conrad Soul is gonna be here.
Speaker 1: What a man.
Speaker 3: I love Conrad so much and he does so many
Speaker 3: good things in the world, doesn't he.
Speaker 4: He's got such an amazing story. Yeah, we'll chat to
Speaker 4: me about it. Next, Conrad stil joins us. Plus we've
Speaker 4: got a thousand bucks up for grabs on the pickup ladies.
Speaker 4: Our next guest is a genuine Ozzie superstar, one of
Speaker 4: our biggest exports, with over one billion streams across all
Speaker 4: his music. He's got Arias coming out of the wazoo.
Speaker 4: He's got number one aria albums. We had him on
Speaker 4: the show in March for Precious, his latest album. But
Speaker 4: he's he now to talk to us about a very
Speaker 4: good cause. He's teamed up with Conrad Saul is here.
Speaker 4: Hi Conrad, Hey.
Speaker 2: Guys, are welcome back.
Speaker 3: We are good now. Hey tell us what are you doing?
Speaker 3: This musician's making a difference? Mma D what's this all about?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 6: I found out about these guys, the Mad Boys I
Speaker 6: call them, years ago, probably about like six years ago.
Speaker 6: I started doing some stuff with them and they were
Speaker 6: hanging around the Sony offices and they had a bunch
Speaker 6: of kids with them, and I went in to one
Speaker 6: of the studios and they were sort of doing this
Speaker 6: thing and they told me a bit about the charity,
Speaker 6: and it was pretty much as they work with the youth,
Speaker 6: like you know, kids that are going through you know,
Speaker 6: you name it, from depression to addiction to just you know,
Speaker 6: just generally you know what it's like growing up. It's
Speaker 6: it's some of the hardest times. You know, some people
Speaker 6: go through it way worse than others. And these the
Speaker 6: mad Boys pretty much come into their lives sort of
Speaker 6: give them a community of people and try and help them,
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of that. A lot of the
Speaker 6: time it's through music and like giving them you know,
Speaker 6: if they're interested in music, you know, putting them in
Speaker 6: studios or introducing them to two artists and sort of
Speaker 6: making them feel like they can well they can do anything,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, and putting a bit of
Speaker 6: hope back into their lives.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 6: So, you know, I just from from time to time
Speaker 6: wherever I can, I help out, and you know, whether
Speaker 6: that's you know, mentoring or going in and seeing the
Speaker 6: kids and telling them my story. I mean, I've definitely,
Speaker 6: you know, struggled with addiction and things like that in
Speaker 6: the past myself, and generally have a lack of self
Speaker 6: love and are wanting it, wanting to please everyone and people.
Speaker 6: So I feel like I can relate to, yeah, a
Speaker 6: lot of what they're going through. So yeah, so I think,
Speaker 6: you know, they have this day and just you know,
Speaker 6: creating awareness around what they're doing, and they're just a
Speaker 6: great bunch of lads that run the charity.
Speaker 2: So Conrad One, musicians are getting involved in this. I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that you're there sharing your story and you're
Speaker 2: being a support, but are the other musicians who are
Speaker 2: also involved.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't on the top of my head, I
Speaker 6: don't know exactly who is. I know it's sort of
Speaker 6: sort of Sony got behind the Mad the Mad guys
Speaker 6: a long time ago and you know, offered their studios
Speaker 6: and so I think I think through that they've just
Speaker 6: met a lot of artists that are signed to Sony
Speaker 6: And I don't know who's put their hand up for me.
Speaker 6: It just personally resonated with me because I don't know,
Speaker 6: I just feel like when you're that when you're young,
Speaker 6: especially in like those young teen years, like you know,
Speaker 6: you'd even like eighteen nineteen twenty, there's not really like
Speaker 6: people that you're looking up to or people that mentors,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like that can sort of
Speaker 6: shine light in a different direction other than just going
Speaker 6: to the club and partying with your friends that are
Speaker 6: pretty much clueless as well, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I just feel like, you know, we need people.
Speaker 6: We need more people sort of stepping up and teaching,
Speaker 6: you know, teaching men how to be men and vice
Speaker 6: versa with women.
Speaker 2: But also, comrade, there must be something that's really inspiring
Speaker 2: from seeing you come in and speak about your story.
Speaker 2: I mean, you said that addiction is something that you
Speaker 2: struggled with. For so many of these kids who may
Speaker 2: be on a similar track or maybe dealing with it themselves,
Speaker 2: to see someone who's made it on the other side
Speaker 2: of that and is successful and has got their life together,
Speaker 2: you know what that actually means for them? How is
Speaker 2: it for you sharing your story with them?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I really I get a lot out of it, you know.
Speaker 6: I mean I feel like, I mean, don't get wrong,
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a work in progress myself, and I
Speaker 6: think that I think it's more about people. I think
Speaker 6: it's more for for kids hearing that, like you could
Speaker 6: you can come from anywhere, or you know, you could
Speaker 6: you could be in a really dark spot and it
Speaker 6: can get better or you you know, some of these kids,
Speaker 6: a lot of them like love, rapping and stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But they they probably look at it like I'll never
Speaker 6: be able to do that, you know what I mean like,
Speaker 6: and they just feel like it's not possible. And then
Speaker 6: they hear they come in and they hear a story
Speaker 6: about for me example, like a kid from Brisbane who
Speaker 6: ended up getting signed to Leo Cohen who sign Kanye
Speaker 6: West Roman and it gives these kids like what that
Speaker 6: can happen? That can happen to a kid from Australia.
Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden, someone who's like you know,
Speaker 6: dabbling in drugs or you know, doing things in the
Speaker 6: streets thinks that he can then you know, put something
Speaker 6: into something more positive and starts putting it, putting that
Speaker 6: energy into music. So I think, yeah, like I said,
Speaker 6: just inspiring people and you know, I think we just
Speaker 6: need more of that, like some you know, people telling
Speaker 6: telling stories about people making it out you know, out
Speaker 6: of Australia and things.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Good what I love comrade though you're doing this. So
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Speaker 4: Dedicate a song. Comrade Buddy, great to chat to you,
Speaker 4: a great cause. Thanks for hanging out to gate.
Speaker 2: Thanks legend, Comrade soul.
Speaker 1: Everyone.
Speaker 4: Hey, Lifeline is there and always available as well. On
Speaker 4: thirteen eleven fourteen, if you or anyone you know is struggling,
Speaker 4: all right, stand by everyone back after this here at
Speaker 4: the pickup.
Speaker 3: So we had the Big Life on Cut Podcast live show.
Speaker 3: We're in the middle of our tour right around the country,
Speaker 3: but last weekend it was in Sydney at the State Theater,
Speaker 3: Beautiful theater. Now, Laura and I, it's our show, Mitch,
Speaker 3: you or the MC. You're very heavily involved, very funny,
Speaker 3: just had to live doing a great But something came
Speaker 3: up at the show that sparked a pretty fierce debate
Speaker 3: amongst the audience and the results because we've got the
Speaker 3: audience involved about what they thought and the results were
Speaker 3: not what I thought.
Speaker 6: So I wanted to.
Speaker 3: Have another little discussion and really like work it out.
Speaker 1: The question was.
Speaker 3: Can a man or a husband go and get a
Speaker 3: vasectomy without consulting his partner or wife. Now, I don't
Speaker 3: think this matters so much if you have kids or
Speaker 3: you don't, because I think the discussion around is going
Speaker 3: to be pretty similar. But we're all for body autonomy, right,
Speaker 3: you can do whatever you want your body. But does
Speaker 3: that still stand when it's talking about procreating which affects
Speaker 3: two people is a.
Speaker 2: Permanent of you can reverse it, but like it's not
Speaker 2: advised to go and get it done if you intend
Speaker 2: on reversing temporary Okay, I think I disagree. I think
Speaker 2: it is important the context. So the part of this
Speaker 2: question was that the couple already had two kids, and
Speaker 2: the woman wanted a third child and he didn't, and
Speaker 2: he had made that aware, and he hadn't gone and
Speaker 2: got the vasectomy yet, but he had booked in for
Speaker 2: the appointment without telling her. She discover it, she yeah,
Speaker 2: so he was going to go ahead and get it done.
Speaker 2: I think the reason why I related to this so
Speaker 2: much is because Matt and I are currently I mean,
Speaker 2: he hasn't booked himself in for a sectomy.
Speaker 1: You're like, I.
Speaker 2: Canceled the appointment, but we're in those discussions, like we're
Speaker 2: in the discussions around do we have a third child?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you've got two, Laura.
Speaker 2: We've got two. I've had a four year old, I've
Speaker 2: got a two year old. We always said that if
Speaker 2: we were going to have three, we'd have them very
Speaker 2: back to back. But our two year old is almost
Speaker 2: a three year old, like she's she's well out of
Speaker 2: the nappy phase now, she's out of the baby phase.
Speaker 2: And Matt always really wanted three kids, like he was
Speaker 2: hell bent on it, and at the time I wasn't
Speaker 2: so sure. Now he's changed his mind. Matt doesn't want
Speaker 2: any more kids, and I think I am, like, my
Speaker 2: feelings have changed so much in the past six months
Speaker 2: and I want a third Do you.
Speaker 3: Think your feelings have changed because he's have changed, Like
Speaker 3: you know when someone pulls something away from you, like,
Speaker 3: hang on a minute, maybe I want that.
Speaker 2: No, my feelings have changed because so for the for
Speaker 2: the very reason that Matt doesn't want to go back
Speaker 2: to having babies is the exact reason why my feelings
Speaker 2: have changed. Because I'm out of the trenches now with
Speaker 2: having babies that I've had, I've come up for air
Speaker 2: and I feel better about myself. I feel better about
Speaker 2: my body, so you want to throw I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm okay with my work again. I can see myself
Speaker 2: managing it again with a third Whereas when I was
Speaker 2: in the trenches, I couldn't possibly add another baby onto
Speaker 2: those trenches, like it was too hard. And now it's
Speaker 2: really hard for us because I know he doesn't want
Speaker 2: to have a third child, and so we're having those
Speaker 2: big conversations about the fact that we're not on the
Speaker 2: same page with it anymore.
Speaker 3: So then, how would you feel if, knowing this now,
Speaker 3: you found out he had booked him for ever second
Speaker 3: without telling you.
Speaker 2: I think I would feel very betrayed, Not because I mean,
Speaker 2: I understand that you know my husband's body, it's his body,
Speaker 2: he has his own autonomy, but I would hope that
Speaker 2: there's still a discussion around it. But in the same instance,
Speaker 2: I respect the fact that one of the big things
Speaker 2: he said is is that he feels that if we
Speaker 2: were to have another child, it would impact our relationship,
Speaker 2: Like there comes a point where when you're so busy
Speaker 2: with work and you're so busy with your other children
Speaker 2: that you can't prioritize your relationship as much and our
Speaker 2: relationship for the past couple of years, especially when you
Speaker 2: have young children, has come second to having young children often,
Speaker 2: and I think he's at the point where he's like, well,
Speaker 2: can we not get back to a place where our
Speaker 2: relationship is number one priority? So why do you want
Speaker 2: to add more stress when we're just coming to a
Speaker 2: place of being great again. It's a hard discussion, isn't it?
Speaker 2: And I know it's I mean, I understand it's a
Speaker 2: privileged discussion because there's so many people who struggle to
Speaker 2: have any children. And we've had our own issues in
Speaker 2: terms of miscarriages, and we've had our hard times with
Speaker 2: fertility as well. But for some reason, I'm now dealing
Speaker 2: with the acceptance that maybe our family unit having three
Speaker 2: kids is not going to happen, and we will just
Speaker 2: have the two beautiful kids that we have.
Speaker 1: Interesting lots of chats you have to have to.
Speaker 3: Unpack still, but you're not on the same page. There's
Speaker 3: the phone because they're still practicing. They're still undecided.
Speaker 2: Egg su essential family crisis is going on at the moment.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 4: Next on the show, we got a thousand dollars up
Speaker 4: for grabs. Children of Australia listener, No, no, This week
Speaker 4: on the pickup, we are going Oprah. You get an LCM,
Speaker 4: you get an LCM, We'll give you a thousand dollars
Speaker 4: worth of lcms. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably the one time in life
Speaker 2: that it actually pays for your children to be embarrassing totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we want your embarrassing kids stories up next here
Speaker 4: at the pickup all week every show.
Speaker 1: We know you're in the car.
Speaker 4: We know you've got empty lunch boxes and the boot
Speaker 4: and those backpacks, your kids and their big old backpacks
Speaker 4: full of empty lunch box.
Speaker 3: It's also if it's not in the back, it's like
Speaker 3: even in the back of the seat and you put
Speaker 3: the rubbish all over the ground and like you know
Speaker 3: how you under the seat of a mum's car.
Speaker 2: Is like twenty five rappers of music bars.
Speaker 3: And when you say that car a lot, Laura, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of in there.
Speaker 4: I have been in Laura's car and I swear to
Speaker 4: God I sat on an lcmbar and ate it.
Speaker 2: I mean fine, it would have still been perfectly edible,
Speaker 2: preserved in a show.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even the pack yet, it was out at
Speaker 3: the back roler had half not.
Speaker 4: On the side of it, well, every day on the pickup.
Speaker 4: This week, we're giving out one thousand dollars to fill
Speaker 4: your kids lunchboxes with as many lcms as they like.
Speaker 1: Like you get an LCM, you're getting.
Speaker 2: Lzum're going, that's a lot of lcms to give to
Speaker 2: your kids.
Speaker 4: It is light up their day with lcm's available in
Speaker 4: near a supermarket thirteen one o six five.
Speaker 1: We just want to know, what did your kids say
Speaker 1: that embarrassed you?
Speaker 6: Do?
Speaker 1: You know what?
Speaker 2: Kids say terrible things all the time. Every single day.
Speaker 2: I feel like every single parent in the car, wherever
Speaker 2: you are, your child has done something or said something
Speaker 2: that was humiliating. Because that's just part and parcel parenting totally.
Speaker 1: Melissa in thirteen one o six five, What did your
Speaker 1: kids say? How'd they embarrass you?
Speaker 7: Yes, So it was my grandpa's birthday and she succeeded
Speaker 7: to ask how old he was and I told him
Speaker 7: it was ninety and she said, wow, he's almost one
Speaker 7: hundred and I'm like, yeah, I know, and she says
Speaker 7: that's old. How come he's not dead yet? And now
Speaker 7: I'm there to tell that to him at the restaurant
Speaker 7: to his face.
Speaker 2: That you should be dead.
Speaker 7: Yes, and then he asked what happened? Whill you die?
Speaker 7: And I said, no, he go to heaven and you know,
Speaker 7: it's really hot up in the planes. It's just a
Speaker 7: really magical place, nothing to be scared of. And she goes,
Speaker 7: it's they're unicorns and faeries and I told her, yeah,
Speaker 7: you know there is, and then she said, I really
Speaker 7: want to go, but I don't want to die and
Speaker 7: started like crying.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Told her there were the unicorns there.
Speaker 2: That's when you made it too good. You sold it.
Speaker 7: No, no, not just that. Then a couple of weeks later,
Speaker 7: one of her friends at school, she just started school
Speaker 7: as well, and one of her friend's grandpa died and
Speaker 7: she said, Mum, something happened to Rosa's grandpa. And I said,
Speaker 7: what happened, said the mom? She passed away, And I'm
Speaker 7: like okay. She's like yeah, but you know, me and
Speaker 7: Rosa were talking about heaven and then she said there's
Speaker 7: only fairies there, and I said, no, there's not, there's
Speaker 7: unicorns and faeries. My mom's older, she knows more than.
Speaker 2: You, Like you're an ages.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you proper. Melissa Jody on thirteen, one sixty five.
Speaker 4: What did your kids say?
Speaker 7: She said to her child care worker. She was sick
Speaker 7: one day and he said, you have to go to
Speaker 7: the doctors because nan started in the car.
Speaker 2: That would probably make her sick. Maybe that's why she
Speaker 2: thought she was sick. She's like, someone farted around me.
Speaker 2: I've got to go.
Speaker 4: There's something different about a nan fart, like a like
Speaker 4: a sibling fart is okay because it's like kind of
Speaker 4: the same as you.
Speaker 3: Especially for like a nan fart post like Curry totally drink.
Speaker 1: Tea and they have arrowroot biscuits.
Speaker 2: It's like the stay Yeah, a bit savory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bit gross.
Speaker 2: How many nana farts have you guys been swapping?
Speaker 1: I've been to your house.
Speaker 2: That's sorry, very descriptive from the tour.
Speaker 1: I've been in a car with you.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make you feel a bit sick as well. Definitely,
Speaker 2: I'm not a nana. I know you think I'm old
Speaker 2: to get off it.
Speaker 4: Last while, Lauren, Hello, what did your child say to
Speaker 4: embarrass you?
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, just to paint a picture on a burned
Speaker 5: nurse an occasional that we do have to restrain our
Speaker 5: patients to the bend for various reasons, delirium or some
Speaker 5: type of behavior of concern. And recently, just at the
Speaker 5: local basketball training with my seven year old kickboard to
Speaker 5: all the parents and all the kids for his mum
Speaker 5: likes to tie people up to the bed.
Speaker 2: He shared your kings to the people squad. Maybe you do,
Speaker 2: and that might be the other reason, but you know what,
Speaker 2: let's not share it to all the kids in the playground.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny, and I reckon, let's give you
Speaker 3: a thousand bucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can have it there.
Speaker 4: You go, get as many lcms as you want, fill
Speaker 4: the kids lunchboxes, light up their day with lcms. You're
Speaker 4: so fine, available near a supermarket. We'll do that tomorrow.
Speaker 4: We got all this class it.
Speaker 3: I love just being like, you get some money, you
Speaker 3: get some lcms.
Speaker 2: I also just love hearing all the embarrassing things because
Speaker 2: my kids have done so much stuff over the years
Speaker 2: where it's almost to the point now where they do
Speaker 2: things and they say things and it's not even embarrassing anymore.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of nice. It's embarrassing, well for you,
Speaker 2: but for me, it's so commonplace. I should be embarrassed,
Speaker 2: but I'm not desensitized. But it's so nice hearing it
Speaker 2: from other parents as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll do it tomorrow. We'll see you guys.
Speaker 5: Then.
Speaker 2: I can't wait see tomorrow, See you guys,