1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: I tell you what one thing that everybody is happy 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: with when we talk about the way in which we 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: are remembering Cyclone Tracy is the Museum and Art Galleries exhibition. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: And we know that the Cyclone Tracy exhibition at the 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: Museum and Art Gallery it's on. Well, it's undergone a 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: major refresh ahead of the fiftieth anniversary, Aiming to showcase 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Darwin's remarkable journey of responding, rebuilding and resilience. The reimagined 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: exhibition is set to transport visitors to a nineteen seventies 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: Darwin home and into the hearsh of the Weather Bureau 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: as the cyclone approached. And I understand it is very 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: close to being completed. It will be unveiled in around 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: a week's time as I understand it. And joining us 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: live on the line right now is curator Jared Archibold. 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Good morning, Jared, doing very well? So am I correct 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: to say? December seven is when it opens. 16 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: That's when it's open to the public. Absolutely? 17 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Yes, how's it all gone? 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like everything that we do. Like yo, 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: you plan it all out, you have it all how 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: you're going to do it, and then you have some 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: little glitches here and there, and then time starts happening, 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: and then near the end there's lots and lots of 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: work all happening at once. So we've got electricians working 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: on lights, we've got conservatives working on objects, we've got 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: sound engineers working with the sound booth. There's a lot happening, 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: but it's all coming together. We're really happy with it. 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: So what can you tell us what you know? What 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: info can you reveal at this point? 29 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 2: Jared Much Yeah, yes, it is. It is going to 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: be quite different to what people remember because it is 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: it is as you were saying, it's undergone a major change, 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: but there'll be some elements that are the same. So 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: I think one of the things is the sound booth. 34 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: People remember the sound booth. It's something that you know, 35 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: people have grown up with as well, especially in Dalhen. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: And so the sound booth we had is now not there. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: It's been demolished and we have a brand new one. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 2: It has a lot more soundproofing but one of the 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: things we're going to do with that, and it's also 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: fit for purpose as well. It's now perfect for people 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: who need wheelchairs and that sort of thing, where the 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: other one wasn't. So One of the things we're doing 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: with that is we've actually gone back and listened to 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: the actual tape that Father Ted Collins recorded in Stuell 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: Park and that's where that sound came from. It was 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: in the booth for thirty years. We've actually had that 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: remastered as well, because the tape is quite old, it's 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: fifty years old, and there's a lot more information on 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: there that we didn't know about. Father Ted Ashley talks 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: through it at newer times and he gives and he's 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: in the middle of Cyclone Tracy, so he's giving these 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: really interesting insights in how he's feeling and what's happening 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: to his flat there at Saint John's at Stuart Park. 54 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: Now you can tell that he is not afraid for 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: his life. It's very different to what people experienced in 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: the Northern suburbs. But he is thinking about the big picture, 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: and so we're actually going to include some of that 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: with all the sound that's been roused, so it'll give 59 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: people just that little bit more of an insight into 60 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: what it might have been like and what you might 61 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: be thinking, and how he felt at the time and 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: what was happening. He certainly didn't have the experience that 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: others in the northern suburbs did or out on the harbor. 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: It is much more insightful than just having the sound. 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: So we're really we were quite amazed with it, and 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: we're hoping people will really get just another insight into 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: what it might have been like, especially for that person 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: and what they might have been thinking when he's experienced 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: in this. 70 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: Oh it's given me goosebumps just thinking about it. You know, 71 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: the fact that you've got that audio and you know 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: he's talking through what he's what's sort of happening. That 73 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: sounds like it'll be incredible. 74 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've as I said, it's been remastered and 75 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: we've completely changed the way the sound boofore us because 76 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: it's a brand new one. So yeah, that's one of 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: the things. So it's there, but it is also different 78 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: content and much more interesting content there is. They're one 79 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: of the other things. We've tried to incorporate a lot 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: more stories. We just can't have too much text. That's 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: one of the big problems we have. No one wants 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: to read reams and reams of texts, but we have 83 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: a lot of imagery, a lot of imagery that people 84 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: haven't seen before. We've had a lot of things come in. 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Some images though people just go, yes, that is a 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: very famous photo. We've included some of those, but we're 87 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: including much more about the Army and their role in 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: the cleanup and getting basically getting done ready to become 89 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 2: a building site rather than a destruction site. That was 90 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: their job. The Navy before them was that first relief 91 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 2: and their months work with their thirteen ships and three 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: thousand personnel, but also done reconstruction commission and also just 93 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: looking to the future a little as well. So there's 94 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: all those sorts of things, and we're really excited that 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: people are going to I'm sure people are going to 96 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: walk in that know, the old one and go, oh, 97 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: you know, what have you done? But then they're going 98 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 2: to go, oh, hang on, this is well. We're hoping 99 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: they're going to say it's better, ah, and it's going 100 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 2: to be much more rounded and tell more of a story. 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you hope people do sort of think 102 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: when they walk in. I mean I would think, particularly 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: when they listen to that audio, it's you know, it 104 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: sounds like it'll be a real experience for them. But 105 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: also you know, the sharing of those photos, the sharing 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: of that information, like, it's such an important thing for 107 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: us to have. 108 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and we can't. One of the things that's 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: been so difficult for all of us here is what 110 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: we have to cut out because we just can't tell everything. 111 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: So we're really trying to just touch on all the 112 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: most important things. There will be a soundscape as well, 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: with people actually telling excerpts of their stories because we 114 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: just can't have all long stories all through. And even 115 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: the entrance is completely different, so that is I won't 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: get right into that, but that will really give people 117 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: a grounding as to where they are territory and give 118 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: an indigenous perspective. 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's really important as well. Jared, tell me, 120 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: did you manage to raise the funds that you needed 121 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: or is there still some fundraising or still some time 122 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: for donations to be made. 123 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: Ah, Look, we did really well. We're really really grateful 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: for everyone that put money in. I'm never going to 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: say we don't want donations. I would never say that, 126 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: but this is it's going ahead and it will be 127 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: ready to go on the seventh. So one of the 128 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: other things I mentioned, we have done a book as 129 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: well that'll be ready so it basically tells a story, 130 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: has many of those photos and others that we've included 131 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: in the in the gallery, so that'll be available for 132 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: people to purchase and take away. So lots of color 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: and black and white, and has lots of extra information 134 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: at the back that people can take with them. 135 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: How busy are you expecting it to be in the 136 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: lead up to the anniversary? 137 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: Very like we were expecting a huge number of people through. 138 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: We're doing you know, curated guided tours. They've already been 139 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: booked out. Wow, looking at doing some more and we'll 140 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: put that up on the website as it happens. We 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: just expect a lot of people to come through. We 142 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: aren't once again though it there's a whole lot of 143 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: things with you know, some people will not want to 144 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: hear that sound, and there will be some you know, 145 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: some sound bleed and things, so you know, we're cognizant 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: of that. But we just we're hoping people come and 147 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: and take it all in and learn more about psychon 148 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Tracy or remember hopefully remember the good as well as 149 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, you know, the bad memories are going to 150 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: be there. We can't stop that, but hopefully after fifty 151 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 2: years you know, people will say, well, you know, this 152 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: needs to be remembered and we've done you know, we 153 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: hope we've done the best job we have we could do. 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: But we're hoping those that come will agree with that 155 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: and and we'll go from there. 156 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Jared, for you as as the curator, I know, I 157 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: know you take your job so seriously. You are, You're 158 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: so passionate about the work that you do. Mate, how 159 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: are you feeling about sort of you know, about putting 160 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: together with a team this exhibition that means so much 161 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: to Darwin residents. 162 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be very blunt. It's been a bit scary 163 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: because we you know, and I'll always say, I'm not 164 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: a survivor of psyclon tracis, but I've talked to so 165 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: many people that that were and still are, you know, 166 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: I know people that have passed on now, those who 167 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: are older, and we're hoping, I'm really hoping with our team, 168 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: and I must say, it's the team. It's not me 169 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: that it We're trying to make sure that people feel that, 170 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: you know, those survivors that come in, that their memories 171 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: are honored and that they feel that we are doing 172 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: that the right way. But also we have that due 173 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: responsibility of people that did not go through it, or 174 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: are family members of those people, or just people from 175 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: overseas that you've heard about it, that we can inform 176 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: and educate them as well. So there's been that dual thing, 177 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: and that's actually, quote sometimes a difficult line to walk down. 178 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: We don't want to lean too far one way and 179 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: make it a memorial, but we also want to be 180 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: able to tell the stories that can be hard for 181 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: people to remember. 182 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh mate, I know that you and the team there, 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: you know, to me, it sounds as though you have 184 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: absolutely approached this with the respect that it deserves. And 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: I am sure that it's going to be an exhibition 186 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: that all Territorians can be proud of. And like I said, 187 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: I know you work really hard and you take your 188 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: job really seriously, as does the whole team there at 189 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: the museum and art gallery. So I'm really I'm really 190 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing it. So the seventh Excellence is 191 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: the official day? Is it going to be like, is 192 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: it going to be You're expecting it to be real busy. 193 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm imagining on the seventh as well. 194 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're making sure people know it is the seventh 195 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: and it'll know, will throw the doors open and we'll 196 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: just see how it goes from there. Like anything can happen. 197 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 2: It might be pouring with rain and not as many 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: people will come until the rains, so who knows. It 199 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: will be open and people can come in experience it 200 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: and let us know what they think. 201 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: Good on you, Jared, I think it'll be phenomenal. You know. 202 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: Just the way you're speaking to me and you're saying, 203 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: you know how many of the survivors you've listened to, 204 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, the families that you've spoken to, it sounds 205 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: like you have treated this with so much respect, and 206 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: I know that that is what territorians will appreciate. 207 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: That's what we're hoping for you. 208 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Good on you. Thanks so much. I'm 209 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: really looking forward to seeing it. Jared, thank you so 210 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: much for joining us this morning. No, thank you,