1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: We know it was a massive Saturday for Territory day, 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: plenty of fun, so many people doing the right thing. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: There is unfortunately always a few that do the wrong thing, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: but a number of fires as well. Now joining me 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: in the studio to tell us how things went from 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: a Northern Territory Fire and Rescue Service perspective, it is 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the Chief Fire Officer, Mark spain Good morning to you. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners. 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Now Spainy talk us through. How many fires did we say? 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw over one hundred fire fires during the 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: period from zero nine hundred hours Saturday morning, so obviously 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: when you can purchase them right through to midnight. So 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: we had a number of events, but they were pretty 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: good this year. In majority of the fires we're in 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: the Dalen area. Last year was in the Palmston area. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: There were fires in Palms But it's a huge shout 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: out to majority of Territorians and the visitors to the 18 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: territory in relations that they called into the Joint Emergency 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: Service Complex. We're able to get the cruise out, we 20 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: had it enhanced cruise on and we're able to put 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: there the smaller fire out really quickly. So it was 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: a busy night for us, but by the same taken, 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: it was a huge shout out to the majority of territories. 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the large majority do the right thing. They 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: always seem to do the right thing with those fires 26 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: that we did have. How sort of severe were they? 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: Or talk us through a few of o's. 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: Normally on fireworks night, we'll have our troops right out 29 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: to two or three o'clock in the morning in large 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: areas that get hold by the fireworks. However, this time 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: we're able to pounce on them pretty quickly, so they're 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: only smaller areas. In a number of areas, some of 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: the crews out in the rural area had to do 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: some back burning to contain the fires keep it. And 35 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: then the following day we had extra crews go out 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: and just patrol the areas and all the hot spots. 37 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: So that were pretty busy up until about twelve o'clock. 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we caught up with Tony Fuller a bit 39 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: earlier as well, and he said to have been a 40 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: pretty busy day like prior to Territory Day actually getting 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: underway or people setting off those fireworks, but pretty well 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: controlled out in the rural area and beyond too. 43 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave the information last week to say that 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: the weather would be in our favor, But when I 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: woke up that morning, it is a bit blustering. 46 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: It was so windy, a. 47 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Little bit nervous, But we always it sort of dies 48 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: down around about eighteen hundred hours or six o'clock at night. 49 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: So that's why we had that little bit of issues 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: in relation to some of the fires that occurred during 51 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: the nine o'clock to six o'clock. 52 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: So how do those numbers and what we sort of 53 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: saw compared to previous years when you talk about the fires. 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: Almost pretty identical to last year. It is our busiest 55 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: night for dealing with small fires. It's not necessarily our 56 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: busiest day and night in relation to our fire season. 57 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Once we get those large bush fires occurring, we're pretty 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: well contained and booked up for a couple of days 59 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: at a time. So it's to our busiest nights running 60 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: from one fire to another fire. So compared to other seasons, 61 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: pretty well on par. 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Now, tell me, I know that there were a few 63 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: instances of people doing stupid things, like there was indeed 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: that pretty significant incident out in Virginia. We're a twenty 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: three year old and fifty eight year old were injured. 66 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: Do you do you have much detail on that one. 67 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: I don't have a great deal of detail on that one. 68 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: Were made aware that had occurred. At the time. I 69 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: was based at the NAB building, so I had a 70 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: pretty good visual around the Daren area. But I would 71 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: like to say that a couple of my fire crews 72 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: were fired upon with live fireworks. 73 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: So people are throwing fireworks at the fireries. 74 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Correct or shooting them at the firees. On a couple 75 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: occasions I checked on those fireries. They were in good spirits. However, 76 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 2: they had their personal protective but that's not what they're 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: there for. They're there so the territories can enjoy the 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: day forty five years of celebration, and that's what I'd 79 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: like to really talk about. 80 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: So spiny, were they fired at while they were in 81 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: their trucks or while they were out trying to put 82 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: fires out? 83 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: One of my officers was out actually just sizing up 84 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: the scene when they got fired upon. However, working closely 85 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: with the police, were able to talk to that individual. 86 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Are they okay those firies that were fired upon? 87 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, there's no injuries resulted. But the fact that 88 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: while they're out doing working for the territories on that 89 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: busy night. We don't expect that sort of behavior to 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: our members and we won't tolerated. 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: It's disgusting, Like you go there out there trying to 92 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: make sure that territorians stay safe, and the last thing 93 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: that anybody would expect while they're at work is you know, 94 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: it's to be assaulted or to be targeted, and to 95 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: do something like that, I just think it's really poor for. 96 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're expecting something being a Saturday night. Yeah flows 97 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: on a Sunday, so expecting a late late night. But 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: it worked out to be pretty good for us. The 99 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: fire calls, as I said, were average across the top end. However, 100 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: in the southern region it was so cold it was 101 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 2: about six degrees in rating. The reports from the officer 102 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: down there is are actually out in the backyard billd 103 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: neglos to try keepselves form. So it was very quiet. 104 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: Nel's free. 105 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: It's much colder in Alice. Hey, I know that you 106 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: don't have further detail on the twenty three year old 107 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: and the fifty eight year old. We are due to 108 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: catch up with Saint John, so we'll talk more about that, hopefully, 109 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: with them, I do want to ask. So I know 110 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: there'd been reports of people throwing fireworks as well from 111 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: a building on Smith Straight. I think it was, and 112 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: it's the same one that you guys had attended last year. 113 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I actually took some video of the high 114 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: rise buildings where there's actual individuals were firing the fireworks 115 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: down to people down below them. I've actually got that 116 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: on video. And the other core was, yes, we did 117 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: attend structured fire last year. It turned out to be 118 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: smoldering rubbish and bin from the fireworks and the same 119 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: building was involved again. So once again that consumes a 120 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: lot of resources to those areas, so we try to 121 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: avoid that. And once again, how to get the police involved. 122 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: Can people get fined if they're doing stupid stuff like 123 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: throwing a firework from a building? Because you know, like 124 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: we've touched on the large majority, do the right thing, 125 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and then, I mean, the last thing anybody wants is 126 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: for people behaving stupidly to ruin it for everybody, you know, 127 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: when it is a small minority. 128 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there will be avenues for that, Katie. But at 129 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: the end of the day, what we said is they 130 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: haven't followed manufacturers recommendations to shoot down of a building 131 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 2: down on people is not the manufacturer's recommendation, so there 132 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: will be some instances where we'll follow that up as well. 133 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: Spainy, can I ask from your perspective on a whole 134 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: do you think territory day went well? 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely that i'd like to. Unfortunately, Katie, there was two casualties. 136 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: Two plastic bins were smoldering and they didn't make it 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: through the night. Plastic bens, Yeah, plastic bens. They put 138 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 2: hot fireworks in there and just unfortunately succume to their 139 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: injuries and we had to put them out of water. 140 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: But other than that, it was a very good night 141 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: for the territories. I really appreciated that our crews were busy, 142 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: and a huge shout out to my call takers, my dispatches. 143 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: They worked tirelessly but very professional. All my supervisors and 144 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: particularly to all the crews that were working from career firefires, 145 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 2: xilories and my volunteers. 146 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Did a fantastic job. And a big thanks from the 147 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: community as well, really to all those fires and everybody 148 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: at work on the work that they did to make 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: sure that it was a great day for everybody in 150 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: a great night for everybody spinning. Before I Let you go, though, 151 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: anybody that is still in possession of fireworks, have they've 152 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: got a couple of days to get those to get 153 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: rid of them. 154 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: It's now ours by twelve o'clock today, third of July, 155 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: they must contact work Safe to get a location where 156 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: they can dispose of those unused fireworks. 157 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Okay, so they've got to get rid of them by 158 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: midday today. So by the time the show ends, you 159 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: have to get rid of those fireworks. You got to 160 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: get in contact with work Safe to make sure that 161 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: you do it the correct one. 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: It's a very expensive fine to be caught with unused fireworks. 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, how much is it again? 164 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: I think it's gone up to seventeen hundred plus dollars. 165 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: It's a lot of money now. Also, just before I 166 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Let You Go, we touched on the fact that there 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: has been like it is pretty windy out there. How 168 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: the fire conditions looking at the moment. 169 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: Pretty good at the moment, Katie, but rarely really commencing 170 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: in the beginning of our fire season. When we move 171 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: more later into July, August, September, that's when everything's really critical. 172 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: It's really dry, the winds are really picking up. We're 173 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: expecting a very aggressive fire season from the Bureau of Meteorology, 174 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: so we're still a little bit nervous about that one, 175 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: but we'll respond accordingly. 176 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: How come, it's expected that it is a bit more aggressive, 177 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: just coming out of the different weather patterns. 178 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: As you know, coming in later into the dry season, 179 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: we don't get the rain to keep everything moisted, so 180 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: everything dries out at cures and then once you only 181 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: need a spark, plus you get the southeastlies that come through. 182 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: They're pretty hard to contain. It's a very fast running fire. 183 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: So once again we just encourage all our block owners 184 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: to have their fire breaks in place now not later, 185 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 2: have everything prepared, their safety push fire plan prepared and 186 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: ready to act well. 187 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Mark Spain, chief Fire Officer for the Northern Territory Fire 188 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: and Rescue Service. Always good to catch up with you. 189 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. 190 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Thanks Coatie, Thank you,