1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: It is thirteen minutes away from ten o'clock. And well, 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: we certainly know about the situation that is unfolding. As 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: we heard late yesterday, two new COVID cases were recorded 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: and have been in the Northern Territory. Will one of 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: those in a remote community, which is a first for 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: us here in the territory. We do understand from information 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: that we've received from the Chief Minister's Office throughout this 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: morning that there is going to be for the positive 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: cases today, whether they are in the community or whether 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: they are in Catherine. At this point in time, we 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: don't have that detail. But joining me on the line 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: right now is the CEO of AM Sant, John Patterson. 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, John, Good morning Katie. 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Good morning listeners. I'm dyling in from beautiful there in 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: a country, Alice. 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: All good stuff. Well, John, I tell you what, it 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: was a pretty terrible situation that we've learned of late yesterday. 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: What was your reaction when you heard of these two 20 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: cases is but particularly the case of of COVID in 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: Robinson River. 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Very very concerned, Katie. To be quite frank, this is 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: the will Kenya incidental in the northern territory that we're 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: going to face. I reckon very concerned, you know for that. 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: And one of the concerns is around you know, at 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: this point in time, and I appreciate this. You know, 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: people are working very hard to try and detect the 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: where where this contact came in the being and where 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: it stems from originated from. So there's extensive work being done, 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: as I understand, from all the health officials in Catherine 31 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: and Robinson River to try and see widespread this this 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: potential deadly virus has spread and waiting on those test 33 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: results to come back. One of our members, Serve Willie 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: will and Jane is a is a tax site, right, 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: so you know we're working with them to provide the 36 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: appropriate support and assistance and to try and track down 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: all that tracing testing, you know, identifying individuals and you know, 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: make sure that we get to get them testing and 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: get the results back as quickly as possible. Absolutely appropriate action. 40 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: And John with Whorley Willy, as you said there, it's 41 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: one of one of your members that health service. What's 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: the word from them today? Does that mean that all 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: of the staff they need to get tested? 44 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, those that are we're in the close contact 45 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: are being identified as I understand they've closed the clinic 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: for the well. It's all in lockdown for seventy two hours, Captain, 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: so they're undertaking, you know, all the appropriate cleansing and 48 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: cleaning requirements to get it back on track and ready 49 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: for services hopefully after the seventy to our lockdown period. 50 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: Now John out at at at Robinson River, who manages 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: the health services out there in that community, sure of borrow. 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: A little clinic and the Robinson River Clinic are both 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: modern Turkey government run clinic. Suffice to say, Katie, look, 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: it's we shouldn't be debating who runs clinics. We have 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: a really good Yeah, I know, I know you don't. 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 2: You're not sort of flaying that, but you know, we've 57 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: got to We work very closely with the modern Turfury 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: Health Department, and when we come across these sorts of situations, 59 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: it's all hands on deck. Tell us who you work for, 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: Aboriginal comeric control into your health. You know, this is 61 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: a team effort and that's the shared understanding where you 62 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: have from you know, the highest level of government. So 63 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: whatever needs to be taken, we're standing ready, willing and 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: able to provide whatever support and assistance turfy help might 65 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: fall upon us for. 66 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And John, do we know what steps are 67 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: being taken in that community today? My understanding was that 68 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: they were actually flying some additional staff out there to 69 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: get that testing, et cetera done. What are you hearing? 70 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm very pleased. Dan sounds very pleased about 71 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: the way the health have gone about and responded to this, 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: and a team of expert clinicians and the testing teams. 73 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: So I understand they're on the ground there and usually 74 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: setting up all their tents and whatever else they need 75 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: to set up to get these testing done and results 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: back as quickly as possible, so it can just keep 77 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 2: keep happy the virus at bay and avoided it from 78 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: spreading more widely. I'm also concerned about the you know, 79 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: there's heavy traffic between Robinson River and Bolulla Township, so 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: there might be consideration to locking down Bolula for a 81 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: bit of a period of time as well, just to 82 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: avoid any of the trafficking between Robinson River and other 83 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: outlying areas. Who knows, this is a fast spreading virus, Kade, 84 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: We've got to put in measures and appropriate stops where 85 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 2: we possibly can to stop this virus in its track 86 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: and get on top of the appropriate test and get 87 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: the results back and take the appropriate healthcare that's required. 88 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: And John, we do know that we've got such a 89 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: transient population in the Northern territory. When you take that 90 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: into account, do you think that we are going to 91 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: see further spread, you know, further than Robinson River and Catherine. 92 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean given the exposure Catherine, you know, 93 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: until we get those test results back. Look, I'm just 94 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 2: speculating here, but I reckon there'd be more cases coming 95 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: out of Catherine, just with the movement, you know, and 96 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: what I've observed, and here on the great line about 97 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: the movement of the individuals, and like you say, the 98 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: original people are very transient people between communities and remote centers. 99 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of more 100 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: more cases in Katherine as a result of those tests 101 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: coming back. 102 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: John, what do you think is going to be some 103 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: real critical points for us today in terms of you know, 104 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: what happens next, particularly when we look at the care 105 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: of our Aboriginal territorians. 106 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, Kadie, like you say, excellent partnership with the Commonwealth, 107 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: Empty Health, and the Aboriginal Community Control Sectory and the 108 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: ramsand and our membership. We like I say, we're all 109 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 2: in this together. We're going to work out butts off 110 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: to ensure that we stop this very deadly vise from 111 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: spreading as wide as you know it could eventually. You know, 112 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: we need to just monitor those testings and get the 113 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: results back as quickly as we possibly can. And if 114 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: it requires, you know, the measures and restrictions, then I 115 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: think we need to put all those considerations on the table. Yeah, 116 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: and you know, to keep community safe and turtoring. So 117 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, I just don't want 118 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: to find ourselves having to lock down larger parts of 119 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: the Turtley. I mean, let's try and keep it in 120 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: those breakout areas as much as possible. And yeah, just 121 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: get their purpriate testing and then apply their purperately healthcare 122 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: that's required. 123 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: And John, I know that you mentioned will Kenya. It 124 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: is an area that a lot of people were very 125 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: concerned about a little while back. They managed to get 126 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: on top of things and fortunately managed to get on 127 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: top of things pretty quickly and avoid a real tragedy. 128 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Do we need to look to will Kenya and what 129 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: they've done in terms of how we deal with this. 130 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, exactly, Katie. We've got to take those learnings 131 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: from will Kenya. I'd like to say they prevented maybe 132 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: more deaths happening there. And this is a timely reminder, 133 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: a timely reminder. I'm calling on all Indigenous to territiins 134 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: if you're still considering getting vaccinated, I would encourage you, 135 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: particularly those in those those hotspot areas now, to go 136 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: and see your local clinician and consider with care and 137 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: be mindful about the lockdown rules and requirements. But whenever possible, 138 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: get to your nearest clinician, get there, get vaccinated. Otherwise 139 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: there is you know, we've seen now there's enough evidence worldwide, 140 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: if you're unvaccinated, there's big risk, high risk that you're 141 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 2: going to hostialize. That's an ic U then unto ventilated 142 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: and it then could cause death. That's our blood. I 143 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: need to convey that message, Kadie, so to prevent any 144 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: of that sort of serious stuff hoostialization, all that there 145 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: is evidence now that if you're fully vaccinated, if it 146 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: can help, are you getting into those sorts of stages Well. 147 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: John Patterson, the CEO of AMSANT, the Aboriginal Medical Services 148 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Alliance here in the Northern Territory. I always appreciate your time. 149 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for speaking with me today. Thank you, 150 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: no worries