WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY: I'M A CELEBRITY - DENISE DRYSDALE

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>The podcast last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Nebne Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode

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<v Speaker 1>with Denise Dreisdale, our first eliminated celebrity from I'm a Celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>Get Me Out of Here for twenty twenty four. Throughout

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<v Speaker 1>her jungle journey, Denise undoubtedly made a mark on her

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<v Speaker 1>camp mates, from her entertaining game of Ding or Dong

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<v Speaker 1>that talk camp mates about her long and her illustrious career,

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<v Speaker 1>to hosting a celebrity fashion show, and of course, bravely

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<v Speaker 1>taking on an inaugural eating trial called vom Appetite. Denise

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<v Speaker 1>took the opportunity to raise awareness for her chosen charity,

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha for Life, whose mission is to inspire and enable

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<v Speaker 1>people to build mental fitness, which is very important to Denise,

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<v Speaker 1>who has a shared hope of a world where no

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<v Speaker 1>one worries alone. There are some fabulous stories shared by

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<v Speaker 1>Denise on today's episode, and for the first time, we

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<v Speaker 1>will talk about some shared memories from the eighties and nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>from when Denise was a big part of my childhood

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<v Speaker 1>and a side note, you will hear me talking about

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<v Speaker 1>her boys, Pete and Robb, whose names I should probably

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<v Speaker 1>highlight so that you know who we're talking about. Denise

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<v Speaker 1>will reveal how many times she was asked to go

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<v Speaker 1>on the show and why she finally said yes. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, we will unpack her time in the

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<v Speaker 1>Celebrity Jungle and hear why she didn't tell more stories

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<v Speaker 1>about some of her famous co stars like Ernie Sigley,

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<v Speaker 1>Darryl Summers, Frank Holden just her name a few. You

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<v Speaker 1>will get some interesting insights into why Denise has had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty tough attitude amongst a boys club of television executives,

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<v Speaker 1>which will then include me highlighting the need to include

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<v Speaker 1>her in the Logis Hall of Fame. I'm also really

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<v Speaker 1>delighted to hear Denise retelling a story about her mother's

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<v Speaker 1>prank calls to Channel nine receptionists back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>There is actually so much to unpack with Denise. To

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<v Speaker 1>hear about her jungle journey is quite amazing, but also

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<v Speaker 1>to reminisce about a few things. So sit back and relax, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>as we unpack Denise Dreisdale's time in the South African jungle.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello you all self, inch, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>What an achievement? I don't know? I feel so is

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<v Speaker 1>it a strange thing to say that I feel proud?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm in awe.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you can be proud of me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>proud of myself. I cannot tell you how glad I

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<v Speaker 2>am to be out. I'm the most I'm the happiest

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<v Speaker 2>big d that's ever been ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think voting to keep you in there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I speak to other people that know you better than

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and they were like, no, we want her out,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to save her. How do we get her

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<v Speaker 1>out of there?

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<v Speaker 2>It all worked out for the best. I was in

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<v Speaker 2>there eleven days, eleven nights anyway, and eleven nights sleeping

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<v Speaker 2>with eleven other people is enough for anyone. It's an

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<v Speaker 2>only child.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it was very brave and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something obviously new for you and something that you probably

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<v Speaker 1>will never forget. But it's probably also something you'd never

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<v Speaker 1>do again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, why you'll do it again. I've done it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling you. I had black bitch where black bit shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be from the sawdust and the charcoal in the dummy

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<v Speaker 2>up to the fire, eating in smoke and fire and

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<v Speaker 2>dust and everything. I dropped the kettle the night that

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<v Speaker 2>the storm was there and everybody was asleep, and I

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<v Speaker 2>dropped the kettle and all the ash came out of

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<v Speaker 2>the bloody fire and covered all the sleeping bags. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>was going really well up until that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was the most affected by that? Who got the

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<v Speaker 1>most amount of what was it?

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<v Speaker 2>The theta? Yes, and he's the most gorgeous man. We

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<v Speaker 2>had a good laugh together, like he's a really nice person.

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<v Speaker 1>How many times did you say no to this show?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty much every year, but I mean it was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit close to that, wouldn't I.

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<v Speaker 2>Nearly every year? But when they ranked this time and

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<v Speaker 2>I said no again, and then they came back and said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>circumstances have changed. What about if you go in a

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<v Speaker 2>week later, which in retrospect was a bit I think

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<v Speaker 2>I put myself behind the eight ball because they'd already

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<v Speaker 2>had a week or ten days or something to bond.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason being I did want to be away from

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<v Speaker 2>home for a long time. As you know, I've spent many,

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<v Speaker 2>many weekends, many nights away from home always your whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I'm at my whole life. You're right, and

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<v Speaker 2>at this stage in my life, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>be home with me, Doggie, my little d d.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember as a kid that you would this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous if you tell anyone, they'd say it's slave labor.

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<v Speaker 1>But I remember you would go and you would get

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<v Speaker 1>up a door like before dawn, like a's three or

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<v Speaker 1>something ridiculous, drive to the studio and you'd record like

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<v Speaker 1>five episodes and then you'd fly off to different states

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<v Speaker 1>and film it again for different states. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god they then changed it Berney and Denis and

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<v Speaker 1>not in Melbourne today and Sydney today. Is that right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>We did in Melbourne today, in Sydney today, in Bristone today,

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<v Speaker 2>until they finally worked out that they could do a

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<v Speaker 2>national show and we just did the five to the

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<v Speaker 2>whole of Australia. But it took I think it took

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<v Speaker 2>about two years. Yeah, and Ernie and I'd be on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>You worked out how to sleep on the plane. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that was why how you made away.

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<v Speaker 2>Not really not, I don't really know. It's still a

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<v Speaker 2>bad sleeper always.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many women though that I

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<v Speaker 1>spoke to about you being in the jungle, including my

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<v Speaker 1>mum and other women around your age, And you had

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<v Speaker 1>Australian women again thinking that they can do more, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think has been a part of your brand your

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<v Speaker 1>whole career. We've always made people feel like they could

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<v Speaker 1>do more than they think they could.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I've done a couple of things like splash that

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<v Speaker 2>was a disaster that I did it because I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted grandmas to get out there in their basis.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have done things. But I think women in

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<v Speaker 2>general now are so out there and doing things zumba

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<v Speaker 2>classes and everything, and good luck to them. Get out

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<v Speaker 2>there and do it, don't sit home, use it or

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<v Speaker 2>lose it. I've lost a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, haven't we all? I think we've all lost our

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<v Speaker 1>minds a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>You haven't lost anything. I suppose the people listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this know that I used to look after you when

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<v Speaker 2>you were little. Yeah, yeah, bo, you were a bugger.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the worst, absolute bugger. Do you know that? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you weren't the worst kids, you were just sensitively.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a very sensitive kid. And do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what was funny because the last time I caught up

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and my brother was there, and Pete and

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<v Speaker 1>Rob were there, of course, and I remember someone said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the worst out of the four of us?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd rewritten history and thought that I was the

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<v Speaker 1>best and I was the easiest of the lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, I was a great child.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, you weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the worst. You were like, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Just an absolute bugger you were. But it was okay

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<v Speaker 2>because I sort of was able to get through to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You are young, seven or something, and you were going

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<v Speaker 2>through bits and pieces. But I was able to get

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<v Speaker 2>through to you most of the time, except for the

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<v Speaker 2>time on sin Kilda Beach when you said I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of the car, and then you took off,

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<v Speaker 2>and then for the next hour I wouldn't get back

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<v Speaker 2>in the car. I'm driving the car along and killed

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<v Speaker 2>the breach trying to get you in. I've got three

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<v Speaker 2>other kids in the car. See I remember everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I'm hoping that over time that you'd sort

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<v Speaker 1>of forgotten instead of reimagined me. I did think that

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<v Speaker 1>there was no change. No, No, you'd ever go on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane with me ever again. After we flew to

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles and I threw up on the plane the

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<v Speaker 1>whole way there. I remember thinking, this lady is ready

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<v Speaker 1>to throw me out the cargo door.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, I remember that trip. So yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I love catching up with your boys, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually interesting. I was talking to both of them

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<v Speaker 1>last night, you know, as you were eliminated, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were just so thrilled by the way. I'm sure you've

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to them, but they were just so thrilled that

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't hurt yourself and you were coming home.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. The only thing people said this, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going into the jungle. Oh, for God's sake, don't

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<v Speaker 2>hurt yourself. You know what I did. I sprained a muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>I sprained a muffle the third day, but you did

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<v Speaker 2>on the lob and it was dawn further than I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've gone down with conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anyway, I said to Bob's, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know Alex mavdykis and I've told him that if anything

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<v Speaker 1>happens to you, he's in so much trouble. And I said, so,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried about the challenges, and Bob's was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about the challenges. I'm worried about her acting

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<v Speaker 1>a damn fool in the campsite and jumping up on

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<v Speaker 1>something that's not stable. That's all he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all. I was worried about it. For god,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't do anything stupid. But anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything stupid, but all on the camp, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I have a home in the arm chair

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<v Speaker 2>and looking at the show and thinking I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get in there and clean it up. You can't. You

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<v Speaker 2>just can't. It dirt everywhere, and you know I'm rather

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<v Speaker 2>a clean person, so I just it was very That

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<v Speaker 2>was the hardest part to dirt and the dummies.

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<v Speaker 1>You said to me, if you ever did it, you

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<v Speaker 1>would get You said, I'm going to make a broom

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<v Speaker 1>out of the palm leaves and I'm going to sweep

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<v Speaker 1>that camp. And I was thinking, oh, it's like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where you make a clean spot and

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll be there all day.

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<v Speaker 2>I did make a fly spot for FRANKIEO because he

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<v Speaker 2>was obsessed with did go around go and he camped

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<v Speaker 2>the flyers that he killed was I made it out

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<v Speaker 2>of from there was a broom there already. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to make one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to know and shame anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know you well enough to know that I

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<v Speaker 1>could see the people that you would connect with, and

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<v Speaker 1>I knew Callum was going in there, so I knew

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be fine with Callum. He's such a lovely, genuine person.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's the word genuine. He's gorgeous, gorgeous guy and

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<v Speaker 2>speaks so well of his parents and everything. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's out there and he MUCKs around, well your

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<v Speaker 2>mental he's looking and thinking, who's this old dealer in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner that's just arrived. Yeah, And then after a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days, I'd be talking to him and he

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<v Speaker 2>goes what that means, and I'll explain it and he'd go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's lave. So we got on really, really well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a lovely boy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of people saying online that they'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to see a spinoff series with you, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading it's this morning. We're saying, you know, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'd be great. Denise could have Callum over and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you could show him how to cook and

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<v Speaker 1>look after animals, and then he could take you out

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<v Speaker 1>to the nightclubs at nighttime, I said.

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<v Speaker 2>To came. He came over to me. I said, my

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<v Speaker 2>pants are still with I said, I said, that's because

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<v Speaker 2>you've got them hanging He had them hanging together, like

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<v Speaker 2>the pants there's no air going in. So I put

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<v Speaker 2>him on the fronds for him and it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just it was just fine. It was just lovely. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved it. I could mother somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was going to say, though, you always had

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<v Speaker 1>a very good bullshit detector, And so I wondered where

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<v Speaker 1>your bullshit detector came from, because I have a theory

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<v Speaker 1>that it might have been from growing up in the

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<v Speaker 1>pot Melbourne pub which your mum and dad owned. Did

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<v Speaker 1>that have something to do with being able to work out?

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<v Speaker 2>Thing? Is I grew up I had to look after

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<v Speaker 2>myself in the pub because there were customers there that

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<v Speaker 2>used to say, here's a packet of razor blades, go

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<v Speaker 2>and play in the traffic. That was when I was

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<v Speaker 2>about eight. So I learned to cope with that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I think that's where I got a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the don't mess with me, or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I won't put up with anything At work, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>take it home. If there's a problem, I fix it up.

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<v Speaker 2>And so maybe that's part of what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>out she can sum up people after a while, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who's putting on a show, you know who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing what for what you just do. It's a different world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll tell you my surprise was s guy I

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<v Speaker 2>saw a sky the first couple of shows. I was home,

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<v Speaker 2>so brave, so wonderful. And then when you talk to her,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a really lovely girl. I did ask her where

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<v Speaker 2>she puts her ribs. She must put him in a bag,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not in that body.

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<v Speaker 1>She once came we went out for a night out,

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<v Speaker 1>and she came back to our place and she stayed

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<v Speaker 1>at our house for three nights. I had to bring

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<v Speaker 1>her mum and tell her mom to come and get

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<v Speaker 1>us to get her because she'd basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved before her baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She hadn't met her hadn't met

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<v Speaker 1>her partner, and she hadn't had some boobs done and

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, she's got the wrong plumbing for Ben

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<v Speaker 1>and I. But she came out and she showed us

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<v Speaker 1>her boobs and asked us whether or not we thought

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<v Speaker 1>they needed to be fixed. She said one boob was

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<v Speaker 1>smaller than the other. Ben and I just was looked

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<v Speaker 1>at her in horror. Lovely person, but we just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe how she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a brainess smarter than anything you know, and so

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<v Speaker 2>don't be de sleep by looks. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect thing to sum up about.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy, Well she's going to do well. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's between Calluman's. Guy, do you have a pick on

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<v Speaker 1>who you think can win?

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<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't even pick it, wouldn't pick it. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a sort of game we play and you

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<v Speaker 2>go around and go oh no, no, and then no,

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we might get a few more signature stories

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<v Speaker 1>from you with because I mean, you've had some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>amazing co hosts your whole career, and I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>to hear more about Ernie and Darryl and Burton Frank Holden.

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<v Speaker 1>I wondered whether or not you worry these days about

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<v Speaker 1>offending people because it's not just your story at someone else's.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you worry about opening up and talking about some

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<v Speaker 1>of those people that you've worked with right now?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, because no, no, no, I would have talked

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<v Speaker 2>about most things. A couple of things I don't talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is that the opportunity didn't come up.

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<v Speaker 2>There's people in there that really they know the name,

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<v Speaker 2>but they oh, idea would have done so that was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I did the best that I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I still do your chalk dance to people at a

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<v Speaker 1>party on U set. That's one of my I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even do it as well as you. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>watched in the episode last night that you did do

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<v Speaker 1>the chalk dance and they didn't really understand it, I

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<v Speaker 1>was devastated. That and bacon and ex that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>get out on Saturday night to entertain people after a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of drinks. Except my bacony, I looked as good as.

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<v Speaker 2>You, trying to muck around for the cameras and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in camp and it's a bit quiet. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think anyone even looked. I just I think they might

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<v Speaker 2>be glanced over and look the otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay too, that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they don't love chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do the bacon and eggs? I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a podcast, so we kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Still do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You still do that much.

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<v Speaker 2>I still do it on stage and I'll get applause

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<v Speaker 2>for getting up off the floor. That's when you know

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<v Speaker 2>you're officially old. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite memories of you was, I remember

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<v Speaker 1>I loved when we go away and we'd be with

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<v Speaker 1>your mum and I used to go and give her

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<v Speaker 1>a brandy for lunch and go around and oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>and turn off all the televisions because she believed that

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<v Speaker 1>if she left all the televisions on the network that

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<v Speaker 1>you were currently on, that it was giving the network ratings.

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<v Speaker 1>So you'd walk through the place right all the TVs

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<v Speaker 1>would be on in the house and I'd turn them off.

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<v Speaker 2>She used to. And you've got to remember she used

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<v Speaker 2>to ring the whatever channel I was onto the receptionist

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<v Speaker 2>and do all different accents. Oh you didn't, it's a job.

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<v Speaker 2>She's on the television. I love her. She's a really

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<v Speaker 2>lovely girl. I'm so glad she's on the television. And

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<v Speaker 2>then she'd hang up and ring in her high you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know Paddy Newton and mom Paddy Newton's mum Eunice,

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<v Speaker 2>and they used to ring each other and they'd say

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<v Speaker 2>who are you watching? And un say I'm watching Bert

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, so Mom would turn over to Ernie

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<v Speaker 2>and I and then they'd work out if you turn

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<v Speaker 2>over at ten o'clock, I'll go. Mum will go over

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<v Speaker 2>to Burt and come over to Ernie and Denise. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>so they were mastering the whole television.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was so cute. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anyone ever told her not to do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just were turning off the power because I was worried that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we were burning electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll leave them on. We'll leave them on the ratings.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll go up.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing about you was watching The Golden Girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day. Used to have a videotape of

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Girls outtakes, and I'll never fold how much

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<v Speaker 1>you would laugh at that video. You would laugh until

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to have a stroke.

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<v Speaker 2>And I still read when Betty White was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>the fleet circuits and the others in the others at

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<v Speaker 2>the table would just could not hold themselves together. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the funniest things. I can't find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to interrupt the chapter, Denise, but please go and

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<v Speaker 1>watch this clip. It's actually available on YouTube. So I

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<v Speaker 1>did find it. I was going to include it on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, but I worried about the copyright. And also

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<v Speaker 1>the clip is actually very visual, so type in the

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<v Speaker 1>Great Herring War on YouTube. It's a Golden Girl's clip

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<v Speaker 1>and just to imagine Denise laughing along with it, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it'll make it seems just that little bit more funnier.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>But before I let you go, the one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you about was just the need

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<v Speaker 1>for you to be in the Hall of Fame for

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<v Speaker 1>the logis and I have been talking to so many

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<v Speaker 1>other journalists in the last twelve months who are championing

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<v Speaker 1>for this to happen. Is that something? I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>to me it seems so strange. There's so very few

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<v Speaker 1>women that are in the Hall of Fame. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's now time?

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<v Speaker 2>There was a bit of a movement for more women

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<v Speaker 2>in the Hall of Fame when about three or four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, because the only one was Ruth Kracknel, But

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<v Speaker 2>now there's Nony Ninny Hazelhurst. Then there's Tech Yeah, gury Aiden.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that it?

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<v Speaker 1>That's three?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>But also you've been on television no offense to carry

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<v Speaker 1>on Kenney at all, but you've been on TV longer

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<v Speaker 1>than I mean, you've clocked more man hours in television

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<v Speaker 1>than she has. So like the matter, I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't think that. No, she diets midday

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<v Speaker 2>show for a long time. No, she's not up a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a lot of television. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many worthy people out there that have been

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<v Speaker 2>around for a long time. So I feel very honored

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<v Speaker 2>that people talk about me in that respect. But it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my stamp. Me being on a stamp was

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<v Speaker 2>the best thing I had never ever entered my head

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<v Speaker 2>that I would be on a staff. I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was a reserved for mountaineers and sports people and people

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So when I got the stand, that was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what. I was so sorry Mom and Dad

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<v Speaker 2>put around to see that. They would have been loved over.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have been over the moon. So yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 2>got that. I'm happy. I've got a lovely life, love

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<v Speaker 2>my kids, love my drank kids, love my dog, love

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<v Speaker 2>my house. What more can a woman ask for to get?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think it's about you anymore. It's about like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start recognizing some of the women in Australian television. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I think that it's about getting you

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<v Speaker 1>recognized to lead the charge for some others, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've been elblazer your whole life. I mean, why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it be you to start a movement that direct.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's lovely. Thanks for saying that. Thank you. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that's lovely. Lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, well the fan and try and make that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I was going to ask you, do

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<v Speaker 1>you reckon Carrie? Anne's going to call you and ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about your jungle experience. Would you ever talk to her?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think, because I don't think that that's the

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<v Speaker 2>call that I'll be making.

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<v Speaker 1>Or she'll be making, not anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, No, she's happy, she's happy doing what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I have to let you go because I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>close to my time. Something that I ask everyone who

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<v Speaker 1>joins the podcast. I think this is episode four hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of well, I think it's amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chatting to you at this at this point. But

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<v Speaker 1>I ask everyone when I finished the podcast, what's something

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<v Speaker 1>from behind the scenes, something behind the scenes of your time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a celebrity because that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like a fun story that maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a chance to see on the telly.

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<v Speaker 2>There wasn't a lot of fun. Let me think, Let

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<v Speaker 2>me think, I sleep on the rocks, which is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you see, when you when you see me

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<v Speaker 2>in those boots, those steel blue boots, the way about

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<v Speaker 2>a kilogram each boot, and that made me feel so awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when we go down to the three I've

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<v Speaker 2>got and everybody's going now, bab begable, big canal, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course every time they say be careful, big temdful,

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<v Speaker 2>I look and the next thing I've slipped on one

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<v Speaker 2>of the rocks. That in itself, me walking in those

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<v Speaker 2>boots is just funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't give you an I can't give you anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I know what you want. I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't give you anything more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, that's great, amazing. You had some friends

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<v Speaker 1>in there, like Tristan. I love Tristan the real world,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a lovely guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I knew he was lovely when we worked on

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<v Speaker 2>studio ten, but I didn't realize how lovely he's. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just been an inspiration to everybody in there. I really

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's fairness in the world. World. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>see him win.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that's good. That's the worst we've got you

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<v Speaker 1>to you say I think should win. Well, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to let you go and thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>you for being so generous with the