Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload.
Speaker 2: The podcast last week.
Speaker 1: Nebne Hey, guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want
Speaker 1: to thank you for clicking and downloading on today's episode
Speaker 1: with Denise Dreisdale, our first eliminated celebrity from I'm a Celebrity,
Speaker 1: Get Me Out of Here for twenty twenty four. Throughout
Speaker 1: her jungle journey, Denise undoubtedly made a mark on her
Speaker 1: camp mates, from her entertaining game of Ding or Dong
Speaker 1: that talk camp mates about her long and her illustrious career,
Speaker 1: to hosting a celebrity fashion show, and of course, bravely
Speaker 1: taking on an inaugural eating trial called vom Appetite. Denise
Speaker 1: took the opportunity to raise awareness for her chosen charity,
Speaker 1: Gotcha for Life, whose mission is to inspire and enable
Speaker 1: people to build mental fitness, which is very important to Denise,
Speaker 1: who has a shared hope of a world where no
Speaker 1: one worries alone. There are some fabulous stories shared by
Speaker 1: Denise on today's episode, and for the first time, we
Speaker 1: will talk about some shared memories from the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: from when Denise was a big part of my childhood
Speaker 1: and a side note, you will hear me talking about
Speaker 1: her boys, Pete and Robb, whose names I should probably
Speaker 1: highlight so that you know who we're talking about. Denise
Speaker 1: will reveal how many times she was asked to go
Speaker 1: on the show and why she finally said yes. In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, we will unpack her time in the
Speaker 1: Celebrity Jungle and hear why she didn't tell more stories
Speaker 1: about some of her famous co stars like Ernie Sigley,
Speaker 1: Darryl Summers, Frank Holden just her name a few. You
Speaker 1: will get some interesting insights into why Denise has had
Speaker 1: a pretty tough attitude amongst a boys club of television executives,
Speaker 1: which will then include me highlighting the need to include
Speaker 1: her in the Logis Hall of Fame. I'm also really
Speaker 1: delighted to hear Denise retelling a story about her mother's
Speaker 1: prank calls to Channel nine receptionists back in the day.
Speaker 1: There is actually so much to unpack with Denise. To
Speaker 1: hear about her jungle journey is quite amazing, but also
Speaker 1: to reminisce about a few things. So sit back and relax, guys,
Speaker 1: as we unpack Denise Dreisdale's time in the South African jungle.
Speaker 2: Hello you all self, inch, how are you?
Speaker 1: What an achievement? I don't know? I feel so is
Speaker 1: it a strange thing to say that I feel proud?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm in awe.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, you can be proud of me. I'm
Speaker 2: proud of myself. I cannot tell you how glad I
Speaker 2: am to be out. I'm the most I'm the happiest
Speaker 2: big d that's ever been ever.
Speaker 1: I think voting to keep you in there, and then
Speaker 1: I speak to other people that know you better than
Speaker 1: I do, and they were like, no, we want her out,
Speaker 1: we want to save her. How do we get her
Speaker 1: out of there?
Speaker 2: It all worked out for the best. I was in
Speaker 2: there eleven days, eleven nights anyway, and eleven nights sleeping
Speaker 2: with eleven other people is enough for anyone. It's an
Speaker 2: only child.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was very brave and it's
Speaker 1: something obviously new for you and something that you probably
Speaker 1: will never forget. But it's probably also something you'd never
Speaker 1: do again.
Speaker 2: No, why you'll do it again. I've done it. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you. I had black bitch where black bit shouldn't
Speaker 2: be from the sawdust and the charcoal in the dummy
Speaker 2: up to the fire, eating in smoke and fire and
Speaker 2: dust and everything. I dropped the kettle the night that
Speaker 2: the storm was there and everybody was asleep, and I
Speaker 2: dropped the kettle and all the ash came out of
Speaker 2: the bloody fire and covered all the sleeping bags. Everything
Speaker 2: was going really well up until that moment.
Speaker 1: Who was the most affected by that? Who got the
Speaker 1: most amount of what was it?
Speaker 2: The theta? Yes, and he's the most gorgeous man. We
Speaker 2: had a good laugh together, like he's a really nice person.
Speaker 1: How many times did you say no to this show?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Pretty much every year, but I mean it was a
Speaker 1: bit close to that, wouldn't I.
Speaker 2: Nearly every year? But when they ranked this time and
Speaker 2: I said no again, and then they came back and said, oh,
Speaker 2: circumstances have changed. What about if you go in a
Speaker 2: week later, which in retrospect was a bit I think
Speaker 2: I put myself behind the eight ball because they'd already
Speaker 2: had a week or ten days or something to bond.
Speaker 2: The reason being I did want to be away from
Speaker 2: home for a long time. As you know, I've spent many,
Speaker 2: many weekends, many nights away from home always your whole life,
Speaker 2: and now I'm at my whole life. You're right, and
Speaker 2: at this stage in my life, I just want to
Speaker 2: be home with me, Doggie, my little d d.
Speaker 1: I remember as a kid that you would this sounds
Speaker 1: ridiculous if you tell anyone, they'd say it's slave labor.
Speaker 1: But I remember you would go and you would get
Speaker 1: up a door like before dawn, like a's three or
Speaker 1: something ridiculous, drive to the studio and you'd record like
Speaker 1: five episodes and then you'd fly off to different states
Speaker 1: and film it again for different states. And I mean,
Speaker 1: thank god they then changed it Berney and Denis and
Speaker 1: not in Melbourne today and Sydney today. Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: We did in Melbourne today, in Sydney today, in Bristone today,
Speaker 2: until they finally worked out that they could do a
Speaker 2: national show and we just did the five to the
Speaker 2: whole of Australia. But it took I think it took
Speaker 2: about two years. Yeah, and Ernie and I'd be on
Speaker 2: the plane anyway.
Speaker 1: You worked out how to sleep on the plane. I
Speaker 1: think that was why how you made away.
Speaker 2: Not really not, I don't really know. It's still a
Speaker 2: bad sleeper always.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many women though that I
Speaker 1: spoke to about you being in the jungle, including my
Speaker 1: mum and other women around your age, And you had
Speaker 1: Australian women again thinking that they can do more, which
Speaker 1: I think has been a part of your brand your
Speaker 1: whole career. We've always made people feel like they could
Speaker 1: do more than they think they could.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've done a couple of things like splash that
Speaker 2: was a disaster that I did it because I thought
Speaker 2: I wanted grandmas to get out there in their basis.
Speaker 2: So I have done things. But I think women in
Speaker 2: general now are so out there and doing things zumba
Speaker 2: classes and everything, and good luck to them. Get out
Speaker 2: there and do it, don't sit home, use it or
Speaker 2: lose it. I've lost a few things.
Speaker 1: Hey, haven't we all? I think we've all lost our
Speaker 1: minds a little bit more.
Speaker 2: You haven't lost anything. I suppose the people listening to
Speaker 2: this know that I used to look after you when
Speaker 2: you were little. Yeah, yeah, bo, you were a bugger.
Speaker 2: I was the worst, absolute bugger. Do you know that? Well,
Speaker 2: you weren't the worst kids, you were just sensitively.
Speaker 1: I was a very sensitive kid. And do you know
Speaker 1: what was funny because the last time I caught up
Speaker 1: with you, and my brother was there, and Pete and
Speaker 1: Rob were there, of course, and I remember someone said, oh,
Speaker 1: who was the worst out of the four of us?
Speaker 1: And I'd rewritten history and thought that I was the
Speaker 1: best and I was the easiest of the lot, and
Speaker 1: that you know, I was a great child.
Speaker 2: No, no, you weren't.
Speaker 1: I was the worst. You were like, no, no.
Speaker 2: Just an absolute bugger you were. But it was okay
Speaker 2: because I sort of was able to get through to you.
Speaker 2: You are young, seven or something, and you were going
Speaker 2: through bits and pieces. But I was able to get
Speaker 2: through to you most of the time, except for the
Speaker 2: time on sin Kilda Beach when you said I want
Speaker 2: to get out of the car, and then you took off,
Speaker 2: and then for the next hour I wouldn't get back
Speaker 2: in the car. I'm driving the car along and killed
Speaker 2: the breach trying to get you in. I've got three
Speaker 2: other kids in the car. See I remember everything.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm hoping that over time that you'd sort
Speaker 1: of forgotten instead of reimagined me. I did think that
Speaker 1: there was no change. No, No, you'd ever go on
Speaker 1: a plane with me ever again. After we flew to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and I threw up on the plane the
Speaker 1: whole way there. I remember thinking, this lady is ready
Speaker 1: to throw me out the cargo door.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I remember that trip. So yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I love catching up with your boys, and it
Speaker 1: was actually interesting. I was talking to both of them
Speaker 1: last night, you know, as you were eliminated, and they
Speaker 1: were just so thrilled by the way. I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: spoken to them, but they were just so thrilled that
Speaker 1: you hadn't hurt yourself and you were coming home.
Speaker 2: That's right. The only thing people said this, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm going into the jungle. Oh, for God's sake, don't
Speaker 2: hurt yourself. You know what I did. I sprained a muscle.
Speaker 2: I sprained a muffle the third day, but you did
Speaker 2: on the lob and it was dawn further than I thought.
Speaker 2: And I've gone down with conflict.
Speaker 1: Well, anyway, I said to Bob's, I was like, I
Speaker 1: know Alex mavdykis and I've told him that if anything
Speaker 1: happens to you, he's in so much trouble. And I said, so,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the challenges, and Bob's was like, I
Speaker 1: don't care about the challenges. I'm worried about her acting
Speaker 1: a damn fool in the campsite and jumping up on
Speaker 1: something that's not stable. That's all he was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all. I was worried about it. For god,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't do anything stupid. But anyway, I
Speaker 2: didn't do anything stupid, but all on the camp, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I have a home in the arm chair
Speaker 2: and looking at the show and thinking I want to
Speaker 2: get in there and clean it up. You can't. You
Speaker 2: just can't. It dirt everywhere, and you know I'm rather
Speaker 2: a clean person, so I just it was very That
Speaker 2: was the hardest part to dirt and the dummies.
Speaker 1: You said to me, if you ever did it, you
Speaker 1: would get You said, I'm going to make a broom
Speaker 1: out of the palm leaves and I'm going to sweep
Speaker 1: that camp. And I was thinking, oh, it's like one
Speaker 1: of those things where you make a clean spot and
Speaker 1: then you'll be there all day.
Speaker 2: I did make a fly spot for FRANKIEO because he
Speaker 2: was obsessed with did go around go and he camped
Speaker 2: the flyers that he killed was I made it out
Speaker 2: of from there was a broom there already. I didn't
Speaker 2: have to make one of those.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to know and shame anyone.
Speaker 1: But I know you well enough to know that I
Speaker 1: could see the people that you would connect with, and
Speaker 1: I knew Callum was going in there, so I knew
Speaker 1: you'd be fine with Callum. He's such a lovely, genuine person.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's the word genuine. He's gorgeous, gorgeous guy and
Speaker 2: speaks so well of his parents and everything. And I
Speaker 2: know he's out there and he MUCKs around, well your
Speaker 2: mental he's looking and thinking, who's this old dealer in
Speaker 2: the corner that's just arrived. Yeah, And then after a
Speaker 2: couple of days, I'd be talking to him and he
Speaker 2: goes what that means, and I'll explain it and he'd go, oh,
Speaker 2: and he's lave. So we got on really, really well.
Speaker 2: He's a lovely boy.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people saying online that they'd love
Speaker 1: to see a spinoff series with you, and I was
Speaker 1: reading it's this morning. We're saying, you know, well, I
Speaker 1: think it'd be great. Denise could have Callum over and
Speaker 1: you know, you could show him how to cook and
Speaker 1: look after animals, and then he could take you out
Speaker 1: to the nightclubs at nighttime, I said.
Speaker 2: To came. He came over to me. I said, my
Speaker 2: pants are still with I said, I said, that's because
Speaker 2: you've got them hanging He had them hanging together, like
Speaker 2: the pants there's no air going in. So I put
Speaker 2: him on the fronds for him and it's, you know,
Speaker 2: just it was just fine. It was just lovely. I
Speaker 2: loved it. I could mother somebody.
Speaker 1: But I was going to say, though, you always had
Speaker 1: a very good bullshit detector, And so I wondered where
Speaker 1: your bullshit detector came from, because I have a theory
Speaker 1: that it might have been from growing up in the
Speaker 1: pot Melbourne pub which your mum and dad owned. Did
Speaker 1: that have something to do with being able to work out?
Speaker 2: Thing? Is I grew up I had to look after
Speaker 2: myself in the pub because there were customers there that
Speaker 2: used to say, here's a packet of razor blades, go
Speaker 2: and play in the traffic. That was when I was
Speaker 2: about eight. So I learned to cope with that. And
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think that's where I got a
Speaker 2: bit of the don't mess with me, or you know,
Speaker 2: I won't put up with anything At work, I don't
Speaker 2: take it home. If there's a problem, I fix it up.
Speaker 2: And so maybe that's part of what you're talking about
Speaker 2: out she can sum up people after a while, you know,
Speaker 2: you know who's putting on a show, you know who's
Speaker 2: doing what for what you just do. It's a different world.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you my surprise was s guy I
Speaker 2: saw a sky the first couple of shows. I was home,
Speaker 2: so brave, so wonderful. And then when you talk to her,
Speaker 2: she's a really lovely girl. I did ask her where
Speaker 2: she puts her ribs. She must put him in a bag,
Speaker 2: definitely not in that body.
Speaker 1: She once came we went out for a night out,
Speaker 1: and she came back to our place and she stayed
Speaker 1: at our house for three nights. I had to bring
Speaker 1: her mum and tell her mom to come and get
Speaker 1: us to get her because she'd basically.
Speaker 2: Moved before her baby.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. She hadn't met her hadn't met
Speaker 1: her partner, and she hadn't had some boobs done and
Speaker 1: that you know, she's got the wrong plumbing for Ben
Speaker 1: and I. But she came out and she showed us
Speaker 1: her boobs and asked us whether or not we thought
Speaker 1: they needed to be fixed. She said one boob was
Speaker 1: smaller than the other. Ben and I just was looked
Speaker 1: at her in horror. Lovely person, but we just couldn't
Speaker 1: believe how she's.
Speaker 2: Got a brainess smarter than anything you know, and so
Speaker 2: don't be de sleep by looks. I think that's the
Speaker 2: perfect thing to sum up about.
Speaker 1: Guy, Well she's going to do well. I think that
Speaker 1: it's between Calluman's. Guy, do you have a pick on
Speaker 1: who you think can win?
Speaker 2: I just couldn't even pick it, wouldn't pick it. So
Speaker 2: that was a sort of game we play and you
Speaker 2: go around and go oh no, no, and then no,
Speaker 2: you couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: I thought we might get a few more signature stories
Speaker 1: from you with because I mean, you've had some pretty
Speaker 1: amazing co hosts your whole career, and I was expecting
Speaker 1: to hear more about Ernie and Darryl and Burton Frank Holden.
Speaker 1: I wondered whether or not you worry these days about
Speaker 1: offending people because it's not just your story at someone else's.
Speaker 1: Did you worry about opening up and talking about some
Speaker 1: of those people that you've worked with right now?
Speaker 2: No? No, because no, no, no, I would have talked
Speaker 2: about most things. A couple of things I don't talk about.
Speaker 2: But the thing is that the opportunity didn't come up.
Speaker 2: There's people in there that really they know the name,
Speaker 2: but they oh, idea would have done so that was okay.
Speaker 2: I just I did the best that I could.
Speaker 1: I still do your chalk dance to people at a
Speaker 1: party on U set. That's one of my I don't
Speaker 1: even do it as well as you. But when I
Speaker 1: watched in the episode last night that you did do
Speaker 1: the chalk dance and they didn't really understand it, I
Speaker 1: was devastated. That and bacon and ex that's what I
Speaker 1: get out on Saturday night to entertain people after a
Speaker 1: couple of drinks. Except my bacony, I looked as good as.
Speaker 2: You, trying to muck around for the cameras and whatever.
Speaker 2: We're in camp and it's a bit quiet. I don't
Speaker 2: think anyone even looked. I just I think they might
Speaker 2: be glanced over and look the otherwise.
Speaker 1: That's okay too, that's okay too.
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't love chicken.
Speaker 1: Did you do the bacon and eggs? I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a podcast, so we kind of.
Speaker 2: Still do it.
Speaker 1: You still do that much.
Speaker 2: I still do it on stage and I'll get applause
Speaker 2: for getting up off the floor. That's when you know
Speaker 2: you're officially old. You know.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite memories of you was, I remember
Speaker 1: I loved when we go away and we'd be with
Speaker 1: your mum and I used to go and give her
Speaker 1: a brandy for lunch and go around and oh god,
Speaker 1: and turn off all the televisions because she believed that
Speaker 1: if she left all the televisions on the network that
Speaker 1: you were currently on, that it was giving the network ratings.
Speaker 1: So you'd walk through the place right all the TVs
Speaker 1: would be on in the house and I'd turn them off.
Speaker 2: She used to. And you've got to remember she used
Speaker 2: to ring the whatever channel I was onto the receptionist
Speaker 2: and do all different accents. Oh you didn't, it's a job.
Speaker 2: She's on the television. I love her. She's a really
Speaker 2: lovely girl. I'm so glad she's on the television. And
Speaker 2: then she'd hang up and ring in her high you know.
Speaker 2: And you know Paddy Newton and mom Paddy Newton's mum Eunice,
Speaker 2: and they used to ring each other and they'd say
Speaker 2: who are you watching? And un say I'm watching Bert
Speaker 2: at the moment, so Mom would turn over to Ernie
Speaker 2: and I and then they'd work out if you turn
Speaker 2: over at ten o'clock, I'll go. Mum will go over
Speaker 2: to Burt and come over to Ernie and Denise. You know,
Speaker 2: so they were mastering the whole television.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so cute. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone ever told her not to do it. I
Speaker 1: just were turning off the power because I was worried that,
Speaker 1: you know, we were burning electricity.
Speaker 2: We'll leave them on. We'll leave them on the ratings.
Speaker 2: You'll go up.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about you was watching The Golden Girls.
Speaker 1: Back in the day. Used to have a videotape of
Speaker 1: the Golden Girls outtakes, and I'll never fold how much
Speaker 1: you would laugh at that video. You would laugh until
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to have a stroke.
Speaker 2: And I still read when Betty White was talking about
Speaker 2: the fleet circuits and the others in the others at
Speaker 2: the table would just could not hold themselves together. It's
Speaker 2: one of the funniest things. I can't find it.
Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt the chapter, Denise, but please go and
Speaker 1: watch this clip. It's actually available on YouTube. So I
Speaker 1: did find it. I was going to include it on
Speaker 1: the podcast, but I worried about the copyright. And also
Speaker 1: the clip is actually very visual, so type in the
Speaker 1: Great Herring War on YouTube. It's a Golden Girl's clip
Speaker 1: and just to imagine Denise laughing along with it, I
Speaker 1: think it'll make it seems just that little bit more funnier.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: But before I let you go, the one thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to you about was just the need
Speaker 1: for you to be in the Hall of Fame for
Speaker 1: the logis and I have been talking to so many
Speaker 1: other journalists in the last twelve months who are championing
Speaker 1: for this to happen. Is that something? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: to me it seems so strange. There's so very few
Speaker 1: women that are in the Hall of Fame. Do you
Speaker 1: think it's now time?
Speaker 2: There was a bit of a movement for more women
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame when about three or four
Speaker 2: years ago, because the only one was Ruth Kracknel, But
Speaker 2: now there's Nony Ninny Hazelhurst. Then there's Tech Yeah, gury Aiden.
Speaker 2: Is that it?
Speaker 1: That's three?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: But also you've been on television no offense to carry
Speaker 1: on Kenney at all, but you've been on TV longer
Speaker 1: than I mean, you've clocked more man hours in television
Speaker 1: than she has. So like the matter, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: you don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think that. No, she diets midday
Speaker 2: show for a long time. No, she's not up a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot of television. But the thing is,
Speaker 2: there's so many worthy people out there that have been
Speaker 2: around for a long time. So I feel very honored
Speaker 2: that people talk about me in that respect. But it's fine.
Speaker 2: I've got my stamp. Me being on a stamp was
Speaker 2: the best thing I had never ever entered my head
Speaker 2: that I would be on a staff. I thought it
Speaker 2: was a reserved for mountaineers and sports people and people
Speaker 2: like that. So when I got the stand, that was,
Speaker 2: you know what. I was so sorry Mom and Dad
Speaker 2: put around to see that. They would have been loved over.
Speaker 2: They would have been over the moon. So yeah, I've
Speaker 2: got that. I'm happy. I've got a lovely life, love
Speaker 2: my kids, love my drank kids, love my dog, love
Speaker 2: my house. What more can a woman ask for to get?
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's about you anymore. It's about like,
Speaker 1: let's start recognizing some of the women in Australian television. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that it's about getting you
Speaker 1: recognized to lead the charge for some others, which you know,
Speaker 1: you've been elblazer your whole life. I mean, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be you to start a movement that direct.
Speaker 2: Well, that's lovely. Thanks for saying that. Thank you. I
Speaker 2: appreciate that's lovely. Lovely.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, well the fan and try and make that happen.
Speaker 1: But you know, I was going to ask you, do
Speaker 1: you reckon Carrie? Anne's going to call you and ask
Speaker 1: you about your jungle experience. Would you ever talk to her?
Speaker 2: I don't think, because I don't think that that's the
Speaker 2: call that I'll be making.
Speaker 1: Or she'll be making, not anytime soon.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, she's happy, she's happy doing what she's doing.
Speaker 1: Well, I have to let you go because I'm getting
Speaker 1: close to my time. Something that I ask everyone who
Speaker 1: joins the podcast. I think this is episode four hundred,
Speaker 1: so it's kind of well, I think it's amazing that
Speaker 1: I'm chatting to you at this at this point. But
Speaker 1: I ask everyone when I finished the podcast, what's something
Speaker 1: from behind the scenes, something behind the scenes of your time,
Speaker 1: and I'm a celebrity because that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a fun story that maybe we
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see on the telly.
Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of fun. Let me think, Let
Speaker 2: me think, I sleep on the rocks, which is funny.
Speaker 2: And when you see, when you when you see me
Speaker 2: in those boots, those steel blue boots, the way about
Speaker 2: a kilogram each boot, and that made me feel so awkward.
Speaker 2: And so when we go down to the three I've
Speaker 2: got and everybody's going now, bab begable, big canal, And
Speaker 2: of course every time they say be careful, big temdful,
Speaker 2: I look and the next thing I've slipped on one
Speaker 2: of the rocks. That in itself, me walking in those
Speaker 2: boots is just funny.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the insurance.
Speaker 2: I can't give you an I can't give you anything.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know what you want. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: can't give you anything more than that.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that's great, amazing. You had some friends
Speaker 1: in there, like Tristan. I love Tristan the real world,
Speaker 1: and he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 2: Well I knew he was lovely when we worked on
Speaker 2: studio ten, but I didn't realize how lovely he's. He's
Speaker 2: just been an inspiration to everybody in there. I really
Speaker 2: there's there's fairness in the world. World. I'd love to
Speaker 2: see him win.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's good. That's the worst we've got you
Speaker 1: to you say I think should win. Well, I'm going
Speaker 1: to let you go and thank you so much for
Speaker 1: you for being so generous with the