1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Jub mission with Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Did you know, as I said, I was yesterday years 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: old and I learned some information. Oh yeah, they ah, 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: so let's talk about that information. 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: This is Amanda's interesting information. 6 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: Do we had an intro Amanda's interesting information told by 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 3: herself Amanda? I don't know. 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: We have to talk like that throughout the whole segment. 9 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: That's relief. 10 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: Did you know that when you borrow a library book, 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: the author gets paid. 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: I didn't know that katching for us. 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: We've both written books. 14 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Well, where's the kachin? No one's borrowing from the library. 15 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Is your book in your local library? Have you checked 16 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: it out? 17 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 18 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: I love libraries. I haven't been to one for a while. 19 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: They've become real social hubs, haven't they. They've got kids reading, 20 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: they've got you know, craft days, they've got other things up. 21 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 3: I've done talks in libraries. 22 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: One of my friends said my book was in the 23 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: local library, but someone had scratched out the face. 24 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: Sorry about that. I want petrol money. 25 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: To say cover the book, they cover the book. They 26 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: cover the book in in contact paper. But someone had 27 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: picked the contact paper off over. 28 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: My face so that they could black out your teeth. 29 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: No, they didn't blame it, And I said, well, what 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: do you mean was it? Was it deliberate vandalism or 31 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: is it just accident? 32 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: I can imagine you drilled down on it or could 33 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: have it could have been someone just kissing that face. 34 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: So was that you? 35 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: Again, I wouldn't waste my petrol on that. 36 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: But it's interesting I did not know that because authors 37 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: actually don't make very much money at all. 38 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: If you're if you're Jane Harper. I read something recently that. 39 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: Looked at all the top books that have been borrowed 40 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: from libraries during lockdown. 41 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Jane Harper, brilliant. 42 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Author Leanne Moriart. 43 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, although JK. Rowley absolutely. 44 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: But so for each book in public library collections, the 45 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: author receives two dollars eleven and the publishers received fifty 46 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: two cents. So for an author that could be the difference. 47 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: It might be one hundred to five hundred dollars annually. 48 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: One of the authors I saw on Twitter esterday said 49 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: I just got my notification of payment. It's double what 50 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: I earned for royalty. So thank you to borrowers. You know, 51 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: authors really struggle. I guess you get an advance to 52 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: write it, and then you get the royalties not much though. 53 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: For every sale of a book, ten percent of the 54 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: recommended retail price goes to the author. If there are 55 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: multiple authors or collaborators, like a kid's book, they might 56 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 2: be a writer and an illustrator. 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: That's split between the paper. 58 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: Who hasn't got a kid's book out of these days 59 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: it seems that everyone is writing a kid's book. 60 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to get much money from it. 61 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: One of i'm irma gold author of a children's book, 62 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: reveals her personal learnings. She said, my picture book retails 63 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: a twenty seven ninety five, So every book sal I 64 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: get five percent because there's also an illustrator a doll 65 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: that's a dollar forty. But that's only the case on 66 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: full price sales. If the book is sold at a 67 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: discounted rate, the author may get next to nothing. For example, 68 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 2: my latest royalty statement on a bunch of books that 69 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: were sold at discount netted me the grand total of 70 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: thirteen cents per book. It's tough, isn't it, But think 71 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: about that when you go into your library, if you 72 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: you know youre also still supporting the author. 73 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: I thought that was great, Yeah, I didn't know that. 74 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: When was the last time you went to a library? Oh? 75 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: You know why you don't go to libraries? Tell the 76 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: class what happens. 77 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: I guess to go to the library once every couple 78 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: of weeks with my dad Hornsby Library, and there's something 79 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: about the smell of the books. The same happens to 80 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: me in furniture shops. I have to go to the toilet. 81 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: Seriously, go to the toilet a serious situation. I don't know. 82 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: Something that just makes it. 83 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's because I'm comfortable there, yep, 84 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. But every single time. 85 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: Is that why Jerry Harvey's been avoiding us? 86 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: I don't even understand that I've. 87 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Got no interest, Amanda, because you go into his furniture shop. 88 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: Don't get into a plumbing store. The copy of your book. 89 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm just carrying off for twenty minutes. 90 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: Amanda's generation