1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: This is the Will and Woody podcast. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 2: Nini, were just getting in the car and you're not 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: across this news. I'm sorry to be wanted to bring 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: it to you. But one of the greats of entertainment, 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Australian legend, Olivia Newton John, died today age seventy three, 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: after a very long, really very what she made a 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: very public battle with cancer, really because she wanted everybody 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: to to she wanted more information about it, she wanted 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: better research about it, and really spent the back half 10 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: of her life dedicated to cancer research. 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: Drive past the Olivia Newton John Cancer Research Center every 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: time I drive to my partner's parents, right, and it's 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: just assigning it. It wasn't just, you know, a flippant 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 3: support of cancer research. 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: She was. She dedicated to her all the way to 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: the end. She's Dame Olivia Newton John by the end, 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: and really touched. I mean, all the tributes have It's 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: rare that somebody passes away like this and it's just 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: all glowing and people going out of their way and 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: people breaking down in interviews over how much of a 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: wonderful person she was. So we're very, very privileged right 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: now to have a very good friend of Olivia's on 23 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: the phone right now, man who directed and produced a 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: whole heap of her music, working on a lot of 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: her records, touring with her, I know, writing music for her. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 2: And John Farnham you'd obviously know him from Dancing with 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: the Stars in the past as well. It is the 28 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: one and only Chong Lim who joins us right now. 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: Good afternoon will and will be a good afternoon. 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: How how's today being Chong? 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Pretty tough, pretty tough, you know, the passing of a great, 32 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: great Australian it's pretty hard to deal with, you know. 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just talking before, mate, obviously, because I 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: know she was in your life. Woods and I are 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: friends with your daughter Sue, and I know that you know, 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: I remember hearing stories about it because Sue was very 37 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: very little, So I know that you've known her for 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: much longer than a lot of the audience would know 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: her for. And that's an area that I don't know 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: much about either. You know, she was winning because she 41 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: was winning Eurovision song contests, and obviously she was, as 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: you said to us in the song before, she won 43 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: four Grammys or something. So can you just paint a 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: bit of a picture of How much of a legend 45 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: do you think she is? 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: She is an incredible legend. You know. She to me, 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: she was the Beyonce of her time. You know, she 48 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: had that number one, number one albums, number one singles, 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: she won four Grammys, she had the number one movie 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: in the world. It's still a classic today. And you 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: know she is a very beautiful, gentle, giving soul. And 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: when you meet her, you wouldn't realize she has done 53 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: all these things. She has album John on our speed dial. 54 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, wow wow. You know, Lady Gaga goes backstage 55 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: to Olivia content and gets excited. You know, she's the queen. 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: You know, Olivia Jon's our greatest I reckon, Australia's greatest 57 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: musical expert. You know, she she turned, she she she comes. 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: You meet her and she's really beautiful and warm and gentle, 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: and yet there's a regal air about her, like you know, 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: there's a person who's done everything there is to do. 61 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: So she's dedicated her life to helping others. And as 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: you as you had mentioned driving past Olivini and John 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Weldon Center at the Austin Hospital, you know I was 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: I was there at the trenches with her right at 65 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: the start, when she she would go to really rich 66 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: people's houses into rec and and sing these songs and 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: raise money and started a little by little and one 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars to build this hospital. You know. Yeah, 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: she would you know, sacrifice her songs. I honestly love 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: you and all that. She would auction them off and 71 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: she says, okay, I'll come to your house and sing 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: a song over dinner, you know, to the highest bidder. 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: She would do that. She would sacrifice her best songs. Wow. 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: You know most people are very protectic, petive. Yeah. Absolutely. 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: When was the last time that you had a conversation 76 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: with her? Chong And it's not when was What was 77 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: the last interaction you had with her? 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Just after New Years? I think I had a quick 79 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: conversation with her. She always rings me and asks about 80 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: how I am. She's always concerned about my health because 81 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: I had a healthcare a few years ago, and she 82 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: always calls to make sure I'm all right. And ironically, 83 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: about three weeks ago, I got a miscall from her 84 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: and she left a message saying, ah, hi, Chongy, this 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: is Livy here. You don't remember we used to work together. Haha. 86 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: She're so cheerful, and I thought, look, I'll give a 87 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: call back. I'm a little busy, like i'd be busy. 88 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: And I thought, ironically, today would be the day of 89 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: give a call and I have some time and have 90 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: a cup of tea and have a little chin wagg 91 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: with her. But not to be. But she never shows 92 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: her pain. You know, I would say three weeks ago 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: she would have been a little sick, but she would 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: not reveal her pain. 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, did she And I mean as a performer, 96 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: because I know she was. I think I was reading them. 97 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, she was rediagnosed with cancer. Yeah, she 98 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: didn't tell anyone about that. 99 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: That was very no. Yes, she she you know, she 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: was constantly fighting the big sea and oftentimes, you know, 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: I hear about it from her relatives, so close friends saying, 102 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. You know, you know, three weeks ago 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: she was, you know, at death door on her bed 104 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: and they called a priest and there she's alive and 105 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: well and kicking. And I remember every year I would 106 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: do the Olivia Newton John Gala Ball charity ball for her, 107 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: and one year she was really sick and almost in 108 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: naked to Australia. But she her spine was giving away. 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: And at the concert she was walking around, you know, 110 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: singing songs and with a keen she would walk through. 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: She was in tremendous pain, but you would never know it. Wow, 112 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of caliber, high caliber person she is. Sorry, Yeah, 113 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 1: besides being a great artist, she's a great human being. 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Carl Stephanovic was talking today about when she'd go and 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: visit people at the Olivia Newton John Research Center, so 116 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: people with cancer, and you know, she'd be talking to 117 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: them for a really long periods of time. That obviously 118 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: takes on a lot of emotion. But when she was, 119 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: when she was with them, she could, you know, stay 120 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: strong for them. And then she'd walk out and Karl 121 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: said to her, he said, how do you take that 122 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: emotion on? How do you take that on? And she 123 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: then she was willing to, you know, break down to 124 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: an extent and go it's really really difficult. But I 125 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: think that just speaks to you know, the person that 126 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: she was, and you know she wanted to stay strong 127 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: for people, and yeah, it's testament to her. 128 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should learn from her. You know, she's taken 129 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: and they giff and made it an a positive. She 130 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: was diagnosed with cancer and she decided not only to 131 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: beat it, she held it at bay for thirty over 132 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: thirty years, and she fought the good battle, personal battle, 133 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: and to build these hospitals and research centers to to 134 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: fight cancer is an remarkable achievement by one person. 135 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: You know, Jeong, If you finished a on a note 136 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: away from her cancer, what's your greatest memory of her 137 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: as a performer, as a someone that you obviously spent 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: time writing and recording music with. 139 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Well, look, I cherished the days we performed in Las 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Vegas and also the last concert tour with her and 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: John Farnham called the two strong houts. Yeah yeah, that's right, 142 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: and they threw it together. Yeah yeah nice. 143 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: That must have been John Farnham's third last final. 144 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Well you know he's doing he did it. He does 145 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: it for his band, you know, as he knows we 146 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: need the money, so he goes down to house. 147 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice, mate. It sounds like you've got some 148 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: wonderful memories with a wonderful woman. Thank you so much 149 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: for coming on the ED today, mate, as your thanks guys, 150 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: as your friend. I know it's obviously tough getting up 151 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: all day to have these chats with people, and I 152 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: know that you're doing it to honor her legacy so 153 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: that people can be reminded of what a beautiful person 154 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: she was. So really appreciate it. 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: And congratulations with all your success guys. 156 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks Charlie. 157 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Man. Remember when you were little kids coming 158 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: to my house to visit. Yes, and I tell them 159 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: my daughters, who are these, you know, long headed louts? 160 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: When Will had hair. 161 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Everyone loses their eventually. Now, thank you for Johnny's legend. 162 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure to have you on the show. 163 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thank you for honoring Olivia. 164 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: Of course, mate, of course it's been a pleasure. Chong 165 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: Limb there, one of Olivia's great friends, produced a directed 166 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: recorded toured with her all over the world. Wonderful to 167 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 2: hear some Well, it's from a close friend about someone 168 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: that we probably all just know as a person in 169 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: the media. You're going to go to a song going 170 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: to come back in the other side's bill and what 171 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 2: do you hope're haing? Wonderful drive home Vallet, Olivia Newton. 172 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: John Now you're done with that, why not check out 173 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: more from Will and Woody on the full show podcast,