WEBVTT - SASHA COLBY - RUPAULS DRAG RACE - STAN AUSTRALIA

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Are right. Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank you so much for clicking and downloading.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode with Sasha Colby, the winner of RuPaul's

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<v Speaker 2>Drag Race season fifteen and special guest of Rupaulse Drag

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<v Speaker 2>Race Down Under, which has already started on STAN Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>I started watching RuPauls Drag Race around season five and

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<v Speaker 2>this show has been such a huge part of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, without making it sound very dramatic, We've

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<v Speaker 2>had RuPaul's Drag Race parties at my home. I've covered

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<v Speaker 2>down Under for four years on the podcast, so having

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<v Speaker 2>an international queen on the show today is I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to describe that is magnificent. Sasha will

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<v Speaker 2>talk about their relationship with Rupe Paul and what they

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<v Speaker 2>think of him stepping back from hosting down Under.

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<v Speaker 1>We will openly.

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<v Speaker 2>Discuss Sasha's early connection with Michelle Visage and what it

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<v Speaker 2>is like to sit beside her for her first season

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<v Speaker 2>hosting an entire season without Rupe Paul. I will discuss

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<v Speaker 2>some of the mantras Sasha Colby has and what they

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<v Speaker 2>hope to install in the Australian New Zealand Queens. You

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<v Speaker 2>will get everything from a discussion on who should have

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<v Speaker 2>gone home in episode one, future plans to visit Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>and even some insights on Australian drag versus American drag.

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<v Speaker 2>There's actually so much to discuss, with so many inside

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<v Speaker 2>revelations as per usual, So sit back and relax as

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<v Speaker 2>we unpack the wonderful world of RuPaul's Drag Race down Under.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, Ben, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very well.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to start this by saying congratulations on the

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<v Speaker 2>win for season fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, thank you so much. I was like, what

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<v Speaker 3>do I win now?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's such an achievement with that sort of being

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<v Speaker 2>the master class of RuPaul's drag Race. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>all turned to America and it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The harder one to win.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to ask you about down Under. How did

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity come about? Like what was your reaction to

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<v Speaker 2>being asked to come down and be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I was in a let's say October. I

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<v Speaker 3>was in Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 4>I was the Grand Marshal of Junolulu Pride and the

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<v Speaker 4>producers thereon give me a call and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>do what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Wants and he's like, I have a great idea. What

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<v Speaker 3>are you doing this day. I'm like, I think come free.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, we would love for you to be a

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<v Speaker 4>guest judge on the first episode of POS Drag Race

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<v Speaker 4>down Under. I'm like, down Under, that'd be amazing. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna be one of the first like winners. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to start, you know, bringing on winners for the

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<v Speaker 4>show and to judge, and we would love to make

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<v Speaker 4>you the first one. And I'm like absolutely, as a

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<v Speaker 4>Polynesian down Under like I live, because it showcases so

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<v Speaker 4>many different cultures, not just you know Australian drag New

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<v Speaker 4>Zealand and then that you know cultural Maui and Samoan

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<v Speaker 4>and it's a great place to see my kind of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, people that are my ethnicity.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first season we haven't had Rupe Paul

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<v Speaker 2>as the host, and your presence had me turn around

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<v Speaker 2>to my friend while we were watching it and we said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not noticing RuPaul not being here as much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it had a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>To do with the effort that you put into what

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<v Speaker 2>it is that you do, and the care and the

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<v Speaker 2>consider about the way in which you were talking to

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<v Speaker 2>the contestants. I thought you should be really proud of

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<v Speaker 2>being able to sort of step into that and do

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<v Speaker 2>such a good job.

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<v Speaker 4>I took the like, the asking of me to be

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<v Speaker 4>a judge, I take it very seriously.

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I've been in.

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<v Speaker 4>The pageant world for years and I've been judging national

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<v Speaker 4>pageants here, and I just have a way when I judge.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, everyone has a perfect score. And I always

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<v Speaker 3>when I.

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<v Speaker 4>See a critique that I see needs fixing, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>technical critique or something that they could that would help

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<v Speaker 4>enhance them, I always like to give the critique and

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<v Speaker 4>then give a construction, a construction of criticism or a

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<v Speaker 4>solution to that. You know, like I love this silhouette,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you've pulled this up higher and make this

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<v Speaker 4>it's to help the girl grow.

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<v Speaker 3>And a lot of times, you know, I just don't

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<v Speaker 3>like a judge. It's like I just take that. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it look good on you.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's just preference, Like what are you doing to

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<v Speaker 4>help her her craft?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what judging should be.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you watched any of the Rupholes drag Rice down

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<v Speaker 2>on the seasons before, because I was thinking if I'd

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<v Speaker 2>been ask to do something like this, I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'll sound old when I say this. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>get me all the Davy Days, but that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. I feel like, get me all the episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually have.

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<v Speaker 4>I've watched them all. I really fell in love with

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<v Speaker 4>Spankie Jackson's season. I just thought, Thankye and Queen Kong

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<v Speaker 4>and Hanaconda or like, just among all of them, there's

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<v Speaker 4>just so amazing. We were so fun, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>got to do a tour last year with Anitra and

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<v Speaker 4>all of Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a whole tour and.

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<v Speaker 4>We're actually coming back in twenty twenty five, so keep

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<v Speaker 4>an eye out for that in April.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we're really excited.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to hang out with the girls that I

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<v Speaker 4>would watch them on Drag Race, and this is before

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to be a judge, So just actually

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<v Speaker 4>just getting to know the Aussy girls was so much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And then being able to be a.

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<v Speaker 4>Part of the franchise by judging and seeing the up

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<v Speaker 4>and coming girls and seeing like you know, different queens.

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<v Speaker 4>Also being able to reunite with them has been really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you say like a big difference, because I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you've com paid it in the US version and I

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<v Speaker 2>can tell you watch a lot of them, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the franchises around the world. So what the big

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<v Speaker 2>differences between say America and Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>I would say obviously like budget and like quality.

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<v Speaker 3>America just has more money.

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<v Speaker 4>We have like a bigger studio here and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of just one spot where it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>more makeshift, you know, we do what we do in

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<v Speaker 4>Australia and in New Zealand when we're filming, so there's

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more of like a scale down quality,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's still an amazing like production and the people

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<v Speaker 4>are always so great. But honestly, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 4>the resources of drag that we kind of get a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more in America that to have different points of

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<v Speaker 4>views and different styles where it's a lot when you're

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<v Speaker 4>in you know, a smaller country, like you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>smaller continent where you don't have a lot of resources

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<v Speaker 4>except like trying to order online and then trying to

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<v Speaker 4>make them your own so it's much more difficult to

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<v Speaker 4>source you know, like already great drag or like drag designers,

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<v Speaker 4>but it does help. What drag is is making it

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<v Speaker 4>yourself and figuring out your own style and really you know,

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<v Speaker 4>working in And that's what I think I love about

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<v Speaker 4>watching the down Undergirls is they're really good at being

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<v Speaker 4>crafty and make shifting and working with the resources that

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<v Speaker 4>is available to them, which is really really commendable.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite things about watching you when you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Your series was your ability to do the work for yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>but it also felt like you were able to help

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<v Speaker 2>others and I thought that to me showed real character.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I wondered being over here giving your impression

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<v Speaker 2>of what it takes to win the show like this,

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<v Speaker 2>Were you able to say to the Aussie queens at

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<v Speaker 2>that stage of the competition, like this is what you

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<v Speaker 2>need to do to stand out?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I mean I talked to each and every one

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<v Speaker 4>of them when I would give their critique as if

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted them to win and encourage their eye, but

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<v Speaker 4>also push your eye further to give it that winners

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that winner over one two, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of checked things that really you know, put an

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<v Speaker 4>outfit from like a seven to ten, and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with work and practice and exercising your drag, I to

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<v Speaker 4>know how to put something together really quick and how

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<v Speaker 4>to make it work for your body, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>how to make it work for you and then sell

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<v Speaker 4>it because you got to fucking feel it. You can't

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<v Speaker 4>sell it if you don't feel it. So you can

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<v Speaker 4>tell the girls like not comfortable in her outfit, or

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<v Speaker 4>like she's like mad because maybe something didn't work out right,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's all over her face, so you gotta fake it, mama.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we saw that with Listen to Innocence.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like she could say that there was something

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<v Speaker 2>about what was happening that might feel uncomfortable, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it was that you picked up on that and explained

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<v Speaker 2>that because like as the viewer, you know, that's all

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<v Speaker 2>wastele and you kind of ah the voice of the

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<v Speaker 2>people at that point, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is also too. I'm like if I don't

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<v Speaker 3>say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter, don't say it, and then they're coming for you.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, let me just tell you now and

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<v Speaker 4>let it out and like hopefully it'll just like pass on.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I think that you would

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<v Speaker 2>always be asked for the rest of your life is

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<v Speaker 2>about Rue Paul. You know, I always asked this to

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<v Speaker 2>people like yourself when I've met sort of more the

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<v Speaker 2>internationals than anyone else. But did you walk away with

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<v Speaker 2>something like was there something specific to you that Rup

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<v Speaker 2>Paul taught you? Because I know he has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of values and a lot of mantras that we know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just wondered about you particularly, was this something

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<v Speaker 2>that he taught you.

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<v Speaker 4>The wild thing was that this felt like so at ease.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of, you know, was really nervous. It's like,

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<v Speaker 4>don't meet your idols, you know, of the highly likely

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<v Speaker 4>to disappoint you.

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<v Speaker 3>But Rue didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>And what I like talking to Rue is like, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty, you know, metaphysical kind of person. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a spiritual person and I believe in you know, meditation

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<v Speaker 4>and yoga. You know, I got crystals and like candles

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<v Speaker 4>and do all those things. It's my form of spirituality.

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<v Speaker 4>And like I believe in manifestation and the art of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the law of attraction.

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<v Speaker 3>And so does Rue.

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<v Speaker 4>And Rue will say certain things to me sometimes that

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<v Speaker 4>I can tell that he obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Like listens to like the same self help and self

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<v Speaker 3>work books or teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>So it kind of made me feel really like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>she's she definitely gets me when I say certain things

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<v Speaker 4>like there's just you know when she talks about she

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<v Speaker 4>talked about connection to source and nobody really says source

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<v Speaker 4>energy when they refer to like God energy or like

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<v Speaker 4>the universe, And that's such a specific teaching of like

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<v Speaker 4>this one guru named Abraham Hicks, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>she like listens to Abram Nicks. It was like the

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<v Speaker 4>founder of like law of attraction and things, and it

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<v Speaker 4>just made me feel at easy, like Okay, all my

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<v Speaker 4>all my fun spirituality that my you know, certain people

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<v Speaker 4>might think is like hokey, the best drag queen the

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<v Speaker 4>entire world does the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and you can own that. You know. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I always think about you, and I think about your

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<v Speaker 2>currency being similar to rue in lots of ways. With

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<v Speaker 2>your vulnerability, I think, you know, you've been able to

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<v Speaker 2>share your story in a way that makes you so accessible,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that is far more challenging than people realize.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's far more brave to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I mean I also was, you know, being

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<v Speaker 4>from Hawaii, IM just a very We have the love

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<v Speaker 4>of spirit instilled in us. You know, we're taught to

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<v Speaker 4>always care about our neighbor and always offer help whenever

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<v Speaker 4>it's needed to even people you don't know. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just have this natural like mother energy. And I'm also

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<v Speaker 4>hyper aware because my drag mother told me when I

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<v Speaker 4>first started dragg like, hey, you look like a bitch

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<v Speaker 4>on stage, so you've better read nice when you're off.

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<v Speaker 4>And I've just kind of always kept that idea, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, be nice off stage. It's it never hurts

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<v Speaker 4>and it's kept. Nobody wants to rebook a meani, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like no, no, no, I never took.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not getting booked again.

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<v Speaker 4>So I mean they can see how many hair whips

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<v Speaker 4>I do, or like how fierce I am. But I

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<v Speaker 4>just love when I hear a booking like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>she was so fun behind stage, Oh my gosh, she

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<v Speaker 4>was so much fun to the girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>She hung out with the drag queens like no one

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<v Speaker 4>ever hangs out with the local queens. It's those things

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<v Speaker 4>that make my heart happy, and then it makes them

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<v Speaker 4>want to rebook me. And make more memories, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>all life is, especially as a drag queen like I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>to be so lucky to make the craziest memories and

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<v Speaker 4>how the funds of stories to look back when I'm older.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a gift.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important to you. I think, you know because you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, because you've done. I was listening to

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<v Speaker 2>probably about four podcasts this morning while I'm on a

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<v Speaker 2>road trip, so I listened to like four podcasts that

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<v Speaker 2>you were on talking about your story, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>was like, the more and more I heard about the

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<v Speaker 2>work that you did and the pageants that you did,

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<v Speaker 2>and how you can collected things along the way. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the take home for me was that you really

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<v Speaker 2>collected things and watched the way that other people treated you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you thought about how you wanted to be treated.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you put yourself from their shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's amazing that you noticed that. Thank you, Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a teacher, I'm a learner. I'm a mirror of

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<v Speaker 4>the people around me, and I really value when people

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<v Speaker 4>just are themselves around me when they don't think anyone's looking,

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<v Speaker 4>and you really understand, like how they are, and you

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<v Speaker 4>learn what you like and you learn what you don't like,

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<v Speaker 4>or like, oh, I don't want to treat people like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to remember that, or oh I like how that,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna remember what that person did to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I like to pass on that knowledge and not

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<v Speaker 4>ever be somebody. You know, I met my hero and

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<v Speaker 4>she had a bad day and it kind of ruined

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<v Speaker 4>my whole idea of her. And I never want to

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<v Speaker 4>be like that to somebody. So I wish trying my

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<v Speaker 4>hardest to put my best forward.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, you could easily have like a really big

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<v Speaker 2>ego as well. That's what I kept thinking. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>last night I was watching some old episodes just to refresh,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing that I was talking to you today, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was saying, how good you are, And I think to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>just chatting to you, now, you consciously remove ego from yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you. I mean, I got it. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get a big oldhead.

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<v Speaker 4>I would be a monster, But luckily my friends all

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<v Speaker 4>keep me in.

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<v Speaker 2>Lovely check my partner whenever he thinks that I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of control, he tells me to do the dish.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, do the dishes.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a dishwasher, but he tells me you handwashed

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<v Speaker 2>those dishes.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl, I want them hot hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we go, I want to ask you, like the

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<v Speaker 2>reunion of Michelle Visage, like what sort of a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>or friendship have you been able to keep going?

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<v Speaker 3>It's been so nice with Michelle.

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<v Speaker 4>We've known each other as acquaintances before I got on

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<v Speaker 4>the show, like we've known who each other are. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never like hung out with her, met her before the show.

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<v Speaker 4>But my best friend is was her makeup artist for

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<v Speaker 4>a long time on the show, and he was my

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<v Speaker 4>best friend that would help me for the for the

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<v Speaker 4>package for drag Race. So she kind of also knew

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<v Speaker 4>that my best friend President was helping me and she

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<v Speaker 4>could see like his little hand in my package was

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<v Speaker 4>very you know by the book and you know was

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<v Speaker 4>doing her judge's duty. But after I won, Jess was

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<v Speaker 4>just so lovely, just so such mother energy, such like

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<v Speaker 4>mothering the mother, which is so nice, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>the mother needs to be mothered as well. But she

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<v Speaker 4>was great, like she has always been so like welcoming

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<v Speaker 4>and really encouraging and just like I just love everything

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<v Speaker 4>you're doing and being able to sit there with her

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<v Speaker 4>in her first episode, as you know, holding the reins

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<v Speaker 4>of drag race down under. It was really nice to

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<v Speaker 4>be by her side and be a sense of support

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<v Speaker 4>and even just walking her and on like encouraging her.

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<v Speaker 4>Like they're moments you know when I'm like, you're doing great, girl,

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<v Speaker 4>this is amazing, like you know, like really really making

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<v Speaker 4>memories with her. And then we got to hang out

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<v Speaker 4>for the premiere, which is so much fun. Got to

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<v Speaker 4>watch it together. Was so happy at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Edit, so we were we were really happy.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to let you go.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just wanted to say I always finished my

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<v Speaker 2>podcast with it behind the scene sacred, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>wondering about it. If you can help me with this.

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<v Speaker 2>We had two queens that did not go home in

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<v Speaker 2>episode one?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it bold of me?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it bold of me too? If you had to

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<v Speaker 2>send one of those girls home? No, who would you

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<v Speaker 2>have sent home?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I can't say. I was literally the whole time you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say can't afford you said, can't say? Is that is

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<v Speaker 1>that a clute?

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot say.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's just because.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was, that was an actual thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, this is going to be hard,

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<v Speaker 4>and I looked at Michelle and I'm so glad I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not I'm not the one who wants to make the decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get stuck on a podcast with me. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, can.

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<v Speaker 1>I just tell you I am I'm in your audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I am such a fan of you. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you are so brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to coming to Australias to buy my

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<v Speaker 2>ticket and be in your front row to watch you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, well, let us know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me let me pr no, we can make sure

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<v Speaker 4>to say hi at whatever city we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>That would make my years.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you, Yes, Ben, absolutely thank.

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<v Speaker 1>You for being so generous with your time and chatting

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<v Speaker 1>with me. I'll let you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, We're gonna have so much fun you in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia soon