WEBVTT - "I Will Never Touch A Door" 🚪 How You Can Bring Back Chivalry💆‍♀️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Flexing Rooms on Cada. We've heard the cliche

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<v Speaker 2>chivory is not dead. I, in my personal experience would

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<v Speaker 2>tend to agree, but if we zoom out into the macro,

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<v Speaker 2>I would say otherwise. So I did some googling when

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<v Speaker 2>did chivalry die. This all started because I was out

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<v Speaker 2>with a friend on a friend date because we do

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<v Speaker 2>go on those, and she called me handsome because we

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<v Speaker 2>were laughing about how the endearment to women can be

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<v Speaker 2>quite like I don't know, just yeah, kind of like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like give me something.

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<v Speaker 1>With some grit, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she called me handsome. We did some googling

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<v Speaker 2>and it originally was used to endear women, so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is right on brand, thank you. And then she

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<v Speaker 2>called me chivalrous. Were picking her up, taking her out,

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<v Speaker 2>paying for it, and then taking her home. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I am chivalrous. That was a chivalrous thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in unison we said chivalry is not dead.

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<v Speaker 2>That took me to the internet Google rabbit hole. So

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<v Speaker 2>first I was like, wait, what is chivalry, because like

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was something that men do to women

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<v Speaker 2>right do to specifically city men part take in. After

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<v Speaker 2>some googling, I found out that chivalry is very polite, honest,

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<v Speaker 2>and kind behavior, especially but not exclusively men towards women.

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<v Speaker 2>It refers to an out of date standard that should

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<v Speaker 2>or should not govern relationships between men and women, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in a romantic context. Quite loosely good standards for male

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<v Speaker 2>behavior towards people, specifically women. But the concept of chivalry

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<v Speaker 2>came about when nights were around. It was a code

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<v Speaker 2>for them as upstanding representatives over the kingdom to abide by.

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<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't just for dating. It was how do

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<v Speaker 2>they treat people? How do they discern who to fight with,

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<v Speaker 2>who not to fight with, who to kill, who not to.

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<v Speaker 1>Kill, How to court, how not to court?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, babe, there's something here. There's fully like ten

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<v Speaker 2>commandments of chivalry, Like it goes deep. But my point

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<v Speaker 2>is chivalry died because of war. You say how, And

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<v Speaker 2>don't be fooled because if you google what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>chivalry they'll be like feminist skilled it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the feminess.

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<v Speaker 2>Bain believe us adam Ory died like a thousand years

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<v Speaker 2>ago because of war. So basically what had happened is

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<v Speaker 2>all of these men felt really empowered to be living

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<v Speaker 2>this upstanding life and behaving in a way that was

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<v Speaker 2>aligned and very admirable, and they would go to war

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<v Speaker 2>and they'd be like, oh, my goodness, we are the

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<v Speaker 2>big dogs, we are the people who are doing life right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then would come back really disillusioned when they realized

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<v Speaker 2>what they were fighting for, which is often futile, and

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<v Speaker 2>caused them to be really quite like sad about the reality.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when chivalry died. When the Knights were like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not noble behavior. This is they said, we've

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen it. This is treacherous. So the next time

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<v Speaker 2>someone says chivalry is not dead. According to the Internet,

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<v Speaker 2>it did die in one thousand CE, and we're in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three CE, so more than a thousand years ago. However,

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<v Speaker 2>there's room to bring it back, and we are lead

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<v Speaker 2>by example.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely seeing it from our conversations. Truly, I will

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<v Speaker 3>say back in the night days, you know the C word,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to say it on it. And don't

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<v Speaker 3>worry Mickey, Mick, he's panicking. I can feel the panic.

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<v Speaker 1>Next to me is it the word that Micky's mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>the rude word.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is the rude word starting with tea. That

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<v Speaker 3>actually means in the night time, like when nights are

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<v Speaker 3>around the sheath that they put their.

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<v Speaker 1>Sword in. People are so creative, seriously so creative.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I made a threat, and I was talking about how

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<v Speaker 2>I've started to introduce romance into my platonic relationships because

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun, right, It's fun to go on dates with

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<v Speaker 2>your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun to treat them well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fun when you accidentally send me eighty dollars into

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<v Speaker 3>my bank account thinking that it was for Michayla's present. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And then I said, do you want it back? And

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<v Speaker 3>you said no, no, you just get laster onto it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, whoa trust? The trust system is in full force.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold onto it. It's fun and funny. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be the big dog, be the big dog

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<v Speaker 2>you want to see in the world. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it does wonders because I think generosity begets generosity. But

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<v Speaker 2>I also just like the way it feels to make

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<v Speaker 2>people's lives easier. No, take it back, not people.

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<v Speaker 1>People I like. People.

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<v Speaker 4>I love him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, people I love But then What had

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<v Speaker 2>ended up coming from this thought was that if it's

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<v Speaker 2>so easy to be chivalrous, why don't.

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<v Speaker 1>People do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I make some guesses please? Okay, first guess is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty obvious. I think many people in order to be

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<v Speaker 3>thinking this. It's like when men stopped opening doors because

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<v Speaker 3>women are like, I can do it myself. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 3>then obviously we have a thought.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we've had a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 3>A residual fear factor moment with thanks to me too,

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<v Speaker 3>as we know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Say fear factor. Bring Joe Rogan in.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about that the other day, about guys like being

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<v Speaker 3>too scared to make the first real because we really

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<v Speaker 3>scoot up. You just have spook boys. And now I

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<v Speaker 3>would say we're at the forefront of this. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>lead understanding that really getting a door open, getting a

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<v Speaker 3>meal paid for really is the spice of life. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's one theory. My other theory is that modern day

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<v Speaker 3>life is hard and men have other priorities at all

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<v Speaker 3>the ones I know adding men to their Spotify, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's other ones in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 2>Look be the software you want to see. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>started making playlists with people, I said, let me get

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<v Speaker 2>in on this.

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<v Speaker 1>When did this become the riz ps. I look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure.

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<v Speaker 2>But also here are my theories, right, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it has something to do with building secular societies. So

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<v Speaker 2>when you build or when you like curate nurture societies

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<v Speaker 2>that are separate from religion, what also happens is that

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes quite lawless. Right, All rules and traditions and

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<v Speaker 2>norms get kind of pushed away or considered to be

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<v Speaker 2>archaic or the opposite of progressive. Right, It's like so unbecoming,

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<v Speaker 2>and so in deciding that we're going to live in

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<v Speaker 2>these secular places, we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Left all of the good stuff behind. And also I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>Bringing religion back organized religion, bring back dogma. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that chivalry stayed dead as a consequence of cliches. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like people forget that cliches exist for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Common phrases exist for a reason. We're all saying chivalry

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<v Speaker 2>is not dead, and yet why is my hand touching

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<v Speaker 2>doors as a woman. So what I will say is

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<v Speaker 2>we can think of all the reasons why it's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's think of a couple of reasons why we should

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<v Speaker 1>bring it back.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, I hate touching doors. I never touched it

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<v Speaker 3>all with my bare hand. I also have sanitize you

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<v Speaker 3>with me all the time, wearing a long sleep really yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>look at me. I will never touch a door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is crazy. That's number one clean girl era. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>get off it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. I've been coming out with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>like savage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sage, what did I say to you earlier?

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<v Speaker 3>Mikayla, I tell you to shut there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he said it out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I love Michayla Floriano.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're obsessed with Mickeyana the best. Honestly, I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you too, babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's want to be everything for her chevalry.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it also died because we as a peace

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<v Speaker 2>people aren't really good at pro social behavior. Pro social

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<v Speaker 2>behavior is doing things for people without the incentive of

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<v Speaker 2>something being done for you in return.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that goes into do you actually believe

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<v Speaker 3>altruism exists?

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<v Speaker 1>Does it? Philosophy?

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<v Speaker 2>Altruism? Does altruism exist? If a tree falls and applace you?

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<v Speaker 1>Hear it? Added belonging and.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is twenty twelve trauma eat still so I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like, yes, pro social behavior or the death of

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<v Speaker 4>pro social behavior, the rise of what do we owe

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<v Speaker 4>each other.

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<v Speaker 1>All goes hand in hand with anti chivalry culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is also, like you say about religion, every man

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<v Speaker 3>for himself.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that called individualism Darwinism?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, but they ate with that because that's

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<v Speaker 3>why we're here.

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<v Speaker 1>They literally ate too.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not ending on a you should or you shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Just know that this is the kind of life that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to live. I was with a guy the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, yeap.

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<v Speaker 1>Need I stop there?

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<v Speaker 3>No, And we were like going around the city, like

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<v Speaker 3>to all different venues, and he would open the door

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<v Speaker 3>for me every time, and we were walking up a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stairs, would always wait.

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<v Speaker 1>For me yep. And I went to say, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, no, don't do that, because, as we know

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<v Speaker 3>from all of my reading, men like to feel useful.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what we got? It's a manipulation technique by me.

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