1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: This is very interesting. The government has launched an arts policy. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: One of the prongs of its arts policy in your 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: cultural policy and arts where part of the arts Brendan. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Are we yeah is this art? Yeah? You like? 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: You go and see live music. I like live music, 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: you go to see theater. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: I like that. 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: Part of an arts policy is encouraging that kind of thing. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: So I take a poet. I'm not proping art. 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: But one of the prongs of the new cultural policy 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: is reinstalling a poet laureate. Australia used to have a 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: poet Laureate, first appointed in the nineteenth century by Governor 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: Lochlan mcquarie and who's appointed merely to write odes for 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: royal birthdays. But other countries have poet laureates. The UK does, 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: New Zealand does, the US does Canada. And what happens 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: here is that that the poet laureate writes poetry to 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: mark certain of events in the country's history. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,839 Speaker 1: Didn't John Laws used to do that, write poetry. He'd 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: write poetry about trucks and valveilina ladies that like trust are. 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: You putting him forward to be our poet lauriy. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: You do it, Lawys, you could do it. Rusty Russell Crowe. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: He likes he recites poetry, doesn't write it that. 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: He writes some poetry. 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: You know who should be poet lauriate because they wrote 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: a lot of poetry is me? 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: You. 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: I have a poetry diary from my teen years. You know, 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: remember I wrote my ode diskylab. That's right, that's what 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: a poet laureate does. Things happen to your country and 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: you reference it through poetry. 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: So you're pitching to be our poet laureate. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: Well now I'm shy, but yes, here's this is a 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: book of mine that's filled with my teenage poetry. Everything 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: seems to be about love gone wrong. Or there's a 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: little picture there, rock star kind of stuff. It's a photo. 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Brenda, a shirtless man that wasn't. 38 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: From those years. I had no action or anything in 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: those years, and I wrote so passionately about love and 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: they're breaking up and I had no boyfriends at all. 41 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: So why didn't you just pick a pout poem and 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: read it at random. 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff in here. 44 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a very prolific poet. 45 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: And there's a little drawing of snoopy on the cover. 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Isn't that cute? I could do that as a poet, Lauriate, 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: I could draw snoopy on the cover of all the works. 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: How old were you when you did this? 49 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: I thought there was the Usually they're dated, aren't they 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: Have a look at the bottom of them. They'll have 51 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: dates on them. Seventy four seventy five. I would have 52 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: been about twelve thirteen. 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: Man seventy five, Yeah, nineteen seventy five, thirteen thirteen. 54 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: Burgeoning emotions. I'd sit in my room and pour it 55 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: all out in poetry, a lot of them. Do you'll 56 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: just read one, Read a couple, Read a couple. I'm 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: trusting you. No mockery, please, I'm trusting you with my poetry. 58 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: You've got to take some criticism. 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: Well, I'd rework some of them now, as if I 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: was a. 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Poet law Shakespeare had some critics. Okay, I go, well, 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: don't put your head in your hands. This is okay, 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: this one. What's this called nothing? I remember back to 64 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: those moonlit nights. As I'd look into your eyes, all 65 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: the pain I felt was killed, all my empty skies 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: were filled, all the rivers began to flow. My love 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: for you began to grow good rhyming, But I was 68 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: just naiven yah. 69 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: So it always turns dark. 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: And I thought our love was true. I blindly thought 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: you felt for me. 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: Shall I read along with it? I can remember it. 73 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: I felt for you. 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: I knew a change occurred in you, what happened, and 75 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: I knew that young love dies, But I didn't really 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: feel it. 77 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: Until I saw it in your eyes. See it's a 78 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: very predictable rhyme. 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: I shed my tears of blood and pain. You stepped 80 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: from my sight. I suppose this means I'm really free, 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: though I'm as high as a car. 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: I know that's not what it would have said. 83 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: It just sounds better. 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: You've got you read it as it is. 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: Many people seem to say you're not the first to 86 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: feel this way, but no one else will ever know 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: the pain that will never ever go See it's I 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: can add for the territory. 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: That is beautiful. Read one more, Read one. 90 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: More the soft subtle waves. 91 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 2: No, that's another loved one. 92 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: Roll up to the shore. 93 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: There's probably one there about rock stars. I wrote a 94 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: lot about how you're never gonna. 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: Make it and treat it with such subtle grace blah 96 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: blah blah. Oh that's a good one. Okay, right, I'll 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: do a bit of an Aussie voice. 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't change it. 99 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: Not a change. You entered the office at nine o'clock sharp, 100 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: convinced they'd work out what to do. But the mongrels 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: that's sat in their air conditions studio with their feet up, 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: had to time it all for you. 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: At no time. It's probably what it's said. 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: You've got two But we warned you when you were 105 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: just a boy. We told you it would be tough 106 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: to get a name in show business. Your life must 107 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: be pretty rough. So your roots became twisted, didn't they 108 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: Your head became blank? Yeah, And they laughed till the 109 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: tears rolled down their cheeks when you came back on 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: your hands and knees. 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: No, I should have had a bank rhyme there all 112 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: the way to the bank. 113 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: They said, in between their laughter, we have no time 114 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: for songs like these, and many people after you will 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: fall in the same vicious pit. But the mongrels didn't mind. 116 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: They don't care, They don't give. 117 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have no swears. What's the last line? 118 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: A bit? 119 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: They didn't care a bit. 120 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: They didn't care a bit. 121 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, I took you on a journey. So look, I'm 122 00:05:53,240 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: just humbly saying never really liked poetry, like noished when 123 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: pers was on. I see apart a little stew. It 124 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: frightens me today. I will do the p do, but 125 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: I want them all back. I want the originals back, 126 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: so I put them in a step self addressed envelope, 127 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: please