WEBVTT - EVICTEE JOEL'S SHOCKING PLAN B REVEALED

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 2>They might welcome back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris,

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<v Speaker 2>television industry and streaming services today. On the podcast, I

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<v Speaker 2>have the very handsome housemate Joel, who this week exited

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Brother house. The Channel seven series is starting

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<v Speaker 2>to churn and burn. This year's contenders and the challenge

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<v Speaker 2>Beast with the body of a Greek God has been

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<v Speaker 2>booted by his fellow housemates. I had the privilege of

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with Joel and his girlfriend the night of

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Brother launch, and so I was aware of

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<v Speaker 2>his cheeky laugh and his bold descriptions of his time

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. Joel isn't afraid of the tough questions

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<v Speaker 2>and he is actually quite wi It's beyond his years.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think you're going to enjoy today's chat. Yet,

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<v Speaker 2>a competition like this does not go well for people

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<v Speaker 2>who are the strongest in the house. Very early on,

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<v Speaker 2>Joel seemed to size himself up against the competition, and

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<v Speaker 2>he bravely stood right out in front of the pack.

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<v Speaker 2>This would ultimately be his downfall, but not without a

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<v Speaker 2>showmance and plenty of drama before his elimination. Today, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about everything from fluffing in the Big Brother House

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<v Speaker 2>to what he really thought of Alisha. I will also

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<v Speaker 2>get him to break down his secret plan to eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>all the ogs, and we'll find out the order in

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<v Speaker 2>which he was planning to get rid of them, which

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<v Speaker 2>can I say He's going to shock and delight fans

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<v Speaker 2>right across Australia. However, let's get started with today's guest.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to welcome Joel Big Brother's latest to vic

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<v Speaker 2>D to TV reload.

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<v Speaker 3>My play was to put up Reggie, Dave and Tully.

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<v Speaker 4>This year it's my twenty first birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they were definitely playing under the radar and I've.

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<v Speaker 4>Invited housemates both new and legendary.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so you were clear right, I'm gonna get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of Sam. You're going to get rid of a leisure Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Will experience be enough to take on the next generation

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<v Speaker 4>of housemates?

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<v Speaker 1>She just doesn't really want to watch me knoling with

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<v Speaker 1>someone else on TV and.

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<v Speaker 4>The new contenders Our Grid Big Brother Royalty.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone knew this is the one opportunity that they had

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of me this Big Brother.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey Joel, how are you hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Going good? Going good?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations on your epic Big Brother game. Was this experience

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<v Speaker 2>like how you imagined it?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I had no idea what to expect going to

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Brother House. I think I had plans going

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<v Speaker 1>in there, and as soon as I got in there,

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<v Speaker 1>I had.

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<v Speaker 3>To throw those straight out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Is you know, expect the unexpected and just really breathe

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<v Speaker 1>into the spontaneity of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the biggest misconception about being a Big Brother housematee?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we all have an idea of how it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be and then it becomes something completely different.

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<v Speaker 5>But for you, what was what was the most obvious?

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<v Speaker 1>I probably saut the timing of a lot of different things,

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<v Speaker 1>like the what time you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to bed, because you know, even though.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside area we close off at a certain time, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What time that is. There's no time of reference.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no routine in the house, and that's something I'm

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<v Speaker 1>very used to, is having a structure time I get up,

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<v Speaker 1>time I go for breakfast, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So going to the house and not having any routine

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<v Speaker 1>and just kind of waking up whenever and going to

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<v Speaker 1>bed whenever, Yeah, it just messed with me something chronic.

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<v Speaker 3>I just didn't think that it would affect me that much.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very regimented in my sleep pattern usually, and going

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<v Speaker 1>in there just kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of like flipped.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wasn't sure if I was getting enough sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, you weren't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, not at all, definitely not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking, I'm not sleeping, I'm not eating, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not myself. And then I spoke to them afterwards and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, yeah, you were only, you know, surviving

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<v Speaker 2>on about four hours sleep at night and we barely

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<v Speaker 2>fed you. And you went in weighing seventy two kilos.

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<v Speaker 2>You've come out weighing fifty nine kilos.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like what. I was like, where have

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<v Speaker 5>I been?

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<v Speaker 1>And the food was crazy, Like I was literally for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>I have half a tinn lentils and a tomato with

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of salt and pepper, and you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside is you have like avo toast and then

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<v Speaker 1>like a thick shake and then a coffee and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>double down on the food. But in there I had

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<v Speaker 1>nothing and that started getting.

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<v Speaker 3>To me pretty heavy too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not something I was going to say to you,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Big Brother experience can do different things to

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<v Speaker 2>your bow movements as well. And I remember one housemate

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<v Speaker 2>said to me, if you go to the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 2>just fuck do you need to wash your hands? I

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<v Speaker 2>think you need to go to the bathroom. But you

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<v Speaker 2>go there and you just be like, oh, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>nothing happened because you ate nothing for.

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<v Speaker 1>Days literally literally, And I'm kind of glad that it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make it on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was a lot of toilet talk, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of like, oh have you gone yet?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I haven't. Oh okay, no either of I Yeah

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't either. We haven't haven't managed to have a

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<v Speaker 3>movement yet. But I'll keep you tune, like, stay stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to the bathroom to do anything for

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<v Speaker 2>three days, and that was because the state of shock

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<v Speaker 2>that my body must have been going through as well

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, the food rations and everything else that's

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<v Speaker 2>going on, and the thought that are these cameras watching

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<v Speaker 2>me go to the toilet, like is.

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<v Speaker 5>What's going on with me?

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<v Speaker 1>And they are like I swear like it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unnerving, especially when you're kind of like having a

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<v Speaker 1>piss and you're kind of looking out there and being like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Should have fluffed this up a little bit or something beforehand.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going off on a terrible tangent here. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>put we're gonna rain this back in.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, you started off as the biggest threat

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<v Speaker 2>in the competition, like you were the fiercest challenge beast,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the best looking housemate that's in there. All of

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<v Speaker 2>these things makes it look like you could win the competition.

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<v Speaker 2>What goes wrong when that happens, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you just become a huge target. That's playing simple.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that a lot of the game in the

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<v Speaker 1>new format is you know, you're gonna be middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the pack. You really can't be a front runner because

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<v Speaker 1>then you're just a huge target. And that's essentially what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't help myself but in that first challenge, go

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<v Speaker 1>helpful ever and take out the win, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stepping into the next challenge, we had Josh who was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, started gunning for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I had to win that one. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like, oh, he's won two for two now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going, oh, like, I've put myself in a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty rough situation here. But then I thought, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to continue playing this game style and tyres

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<v Speaker 1>car reward. But you know, if I can pull it off,

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<v Speaker 1>I can put off. But you know, unfortunately I slipped

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<v Speaker 1>up and got the acts. I have been seen as

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<v Speaker 1>quite a big fasils by the house.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the reason that I was dominated.

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<v Speaker 2>And to time, I wanted to text you, but like

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<v Speaker 2>it's cruel to text somebody about something that's already happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But I wanted to say, on the second time you're

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<v Speaker 2>up for a challenge, throw this in. Throw it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't let these people think you're going to keep winning

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<v Speaker 2>these challenges. Pretend you've got a wonky h make up

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<v Speaker 2>a lie that you've got a wooden leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, man, I know, I know, but I just knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I knew that Josh was coming for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and just before the challenge, he came up to me

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen and he was like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I win, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Put some big players up today.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, oh, well, any possibility that

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<v Speaker 1>I decided to throw this, it means I'm going home,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to go home by throwing a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't feel safe doing that. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you know what, stick to the original plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go out like a Bullygate, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I give it everything I have. And then yet in

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge, I had like a really good technique. I

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much relaxed the entire time. I just locked my

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<v Speaker 1>arms in and engage my core for short periods of time.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, as you can probably you can see in

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<v Speaker 1>the show like I barely broke a sweat and it

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<v Speaker 1>was all just that a technique.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, that's all it came down to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got muscles from just watching it because I

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<v Speaker 2>was so stressed that I was clenching. And then I'd

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<v Speaker 2>finish watching these challenges and I would be like the Hulk.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, perfect, perfect, get a pump on having to sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the divide between the ogs and the newbies

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<v Speaker 2>to me felt like this really obvious and somewhat flat storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think it had to be that way? Was

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<v Speaker 2>there ever a chance that we would have seen a

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<v Speaker 2>different structure of how the housemates were going to compete

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<v Speaker 2>against each other?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I reckon that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, initially, that's how it's been framed, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it had to be.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like when an intruder were to come into

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<v Speaker 1>the house in like a couple or you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>three group or whatever, like they would be locked together.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it'd be hard for the breakaway and in

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<v Speaker 1>part of the bigger group. And that's what that's essentially

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<v Speaker 1>what happened when the Ogs came in and there groups

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<v Speaker 1>of four and five or three, you know, like they've

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<v Speaker 1>already formed a bond in either the sewer or in

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<v Speaker 1>the main frame, you know that type of thing, or

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<v Speaker 1>they know each other, like when Tali come in with

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and Drew. You know, so that was pretty evident.

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<v Speaker 3>But I knew like part of my plan was to

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<v Speaker 3>then break apart some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the ogs and take them on my side by

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<v Speaker 1>using that strategy of I'm actually quite a strong physical

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<v Speaker 1>player in here.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you do want to be safe, well you

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<v Speaker 3>got to you got to back me.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, which is a really good question to ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I really want you to work with me on

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<v Speaker 2>this one. If you have to eliminate the ogs inner order,

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<v Speaker 2>what order do you think if you had the chance

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<v Speaker 2>to do this, like you want a big brother twist

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<v Speaker 2>pass and you then could choose the order of who

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<v Speaker 2>you got rid of, as in who you thought with

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest threats, what is that order?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sweet, Yeah, I've definitely thought of it this times. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>So my latest play in the in the house, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I made a deal with Tim and Drew to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of Tully. So Tully was going to be first,

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<v Speaker 1>but hold on, not yet. So my play was to

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<v Speaker 1>put up Reggie, Dave and Tully. But I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to swap out Tully for Tim, so I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go yeah, so that would squeezed him out.

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<v Speaker 3>That was step one. Step two was to go for Drew.

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<v Speaker 1>And the deal that I made with Drew and the

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<v Speaker 1>information he gave me, I was going to use that

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<v Speaker 1>as leverage. I told Sam, I told Tarras and Alicia

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, sorry plant those seeds to Sam so

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<v Speaker 1>that she would lose confidence in Drew. So we'd go

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<v Speaker 1>Tim first, then Drew. Then after that, I knew that

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<v Speaker 1>we would have open slabber.

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<v Speaker 3>If we could pull it off.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to go for a Stelle next, because

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<v Speaker 1>although I was trying to keep things amicable with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't even know that she's.

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<v Speaker 3>The most housemate and I put her up at the start, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Told her that I wouldn't put her up, and just

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<v Speaker 1>before that last challenge, I even told it to her,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to put you out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to vote for you. And then Tully. I

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<v Speaker 3>think i'd keep Tully in there for a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>because she'd caused a bit of drama.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we also won a challenge together and we

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<v Speaker 1>did bond over it for a certain period there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a difficult sort of setting because she had.

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<v Speaker 3>Her alliance with the Ogs. Sure, then I would go

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<v Speaker 3>for Trev. I'd probably want to keep him in there

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<v Speaker 3>for as long as possible. I loved his energy and

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<v Speaker 3>his jokes and all that sort of stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 3>who had left.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got David next. That's the last of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, there you go. I'd probably just hopefully keep

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<v Speaker 1>those into the end. Really, if I could, I'd take

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<v Speaker 1>them to the.

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<v Speaker 3>Top with me.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people were talking about while the production

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<v Speaker 2>was happening that the newbies were terrified to even touch Reggie.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she have like a god type status inside the

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<v Speaker 2>house that made you all afraid to even contemplate the

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<v Speaker 2>thought of trying to remove her from the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, She's the queen of the Big Brother, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So to try and take someone's crown like that, you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing with fire. And but the main thing was she

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<v Speaker 1>she's with such a good cause. You know, she's losing

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<v Speaker 1>her eyesight, her son's got cystic vibrosis. Like, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sad situation, and you know, we all felt for her,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very hard, you know, to want to

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<v Speaker 1>put her in a position like that, to take that

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<v Speaker 1>chance away from her, you know what I mean. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, I was going to use

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<v Speaker 1>that to my advantage. You know, I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>use Reggie because no one's going to vote for her,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was going to use her to squeeze other

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<v Speaker 1>players out, you know, So especially with Dave, like he

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<v Speaker 1>has he was in there with the rough Track.

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<v Speaker 3>Kids, such a good cause, it's amazing. He's such a

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<v Speaker 3>good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And using those two players who are essentially untouchable, you

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<v Speaker 1>can use those to squeeze out the person you actually want,

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<v Speaker 1>such as Tim or Drew or Tully.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they might have been underestimating you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>even I at this stage, whilst you're explaining this, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was underestimating you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that that was interesting because like I talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of strata in the house, but any show steppers,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I understand your twenty four hours a day,

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<v Speaker 1>seven days a week, there's you know, heaps of housemates.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we're going to compress that into an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and a half long video.

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<v Speaker 1>So and it's not going to show about Joel either,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about it's about the whole game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that a new TV show, A big job.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the extended version.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's it. You're guessing one cut shower scenes as well.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people I'm not saying me, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have my hand up with This is a podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>so people can't see, but there'd be a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people out there that would sign up to that but

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<v Speaker 2>away from this mountingness, you know you sort of touched

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<v Speaker 2>on this. Reggie, Dave and Trevor are not really shown

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<v Speaker 2>as much as Australia thought. You know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people talking about this online. Is that because their

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<v Speaker 2>strategy was to fly under the radar or are we

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<v Speaker 2>not really seeing how they were inside the show?

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<v Speaker 1>No, they were definitely playing under the radar, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching the show back, I'm shocked at Reggie, like I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. You know, she's wanting to make these big

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<v Speaker 1>plays and you know they're not going to take my

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<v Speaker 1>crown and I just couldn't imagine her saying that at all,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that is insane, And I love it because she

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<v Speaker 1>played such a good game.

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<v Speaker 3>They were playing right on the front of the radar.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Trevor came to me and he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I'm in here is to help you guys

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<v Speaker 1>with some big plays.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know as we see we watch it

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, no, no, we'll get rhythm, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>a threat. Well we'll get rid of that guy, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is our one chance to take it,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what, you know, I thought we were

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<v Speaker 1>mates there, Like I thought you were going to help

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<v Speaker 1>me out, and yeah, definitely playing under the radar.

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<v Speaker 3>But good good for him, like done, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing like getting in the way of a former

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<v Speaker 2>reality television contestant and their screen time. They might be

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest person in the world, but they will throw

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<v Speaker 2>you under the bus for just two more minutes exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Well, maybe if I get a returning,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, call them ten years time, Well I might

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<v Speaker 1>do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'll leaving the house. Where can you see the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest feud for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Probably Tim and Tully. I reckon that they like

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<v Speaker 3>even in the.

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<v Speaker 1>House what I experienced, like they are so at each

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<v Speaker 1>other all the time. And you know, I even made

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<v Speaker 1>a deal with Tim to get rid of Tully because

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<v Speaker 1>he was sick of her being in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I reckon, Yeah, I reckon, that's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be on the cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm keen to see what happens next to because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>after I left the house, I was really wondering, like

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<v Speaker 1>Tim and Tally was that actually a play? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was always second guessing that, like are they mucking around?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they trying to look like their enemies. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually, but I think they actually are like to

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<v Speaker 1>a degree. They definitely going to on each other's nerves.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tim loves doing it too. He loves doing the pot.

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<v Speaker 5>What makes someone like you apply for Big Brother?

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<v Speaker 3>The challenges?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, I just love the physical, you know, and mental

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<v Speaker 1>challenge of the whole the whole game. You know. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always enjoyed putting my body to the test and testing

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<v Speaker 1>the limits.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I have watched the challenges in previous seasons, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always broken down the challenge and been like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is how I would approach it, this is how I

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<v Speaker 1>would do it, and I would. I was just keen

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<v Speaker 1>to give it a go, you know, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>proved that I could do it as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like jumping into those first first challenge, I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>the knots and I was like, sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>How would I untie that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>What's the tactic?

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<v Speaker 2>Here?

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<v Speaker 3>Would I slide on the top even with the rope ladder?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that on a rope ladder it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be moving about when I climb up, So I put

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<v Speaker 1>both hands on either side and slid them up the

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<v Speaker 1>rope because I knew that if I had take my

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<v Speaker 1>hands off and then back on and had to try

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<v Speaker 1>and catch the rope, but hands on the side, you

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<v Speaker 1>could slide up. I was just break compartmentalizing everything, breaking

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<v Speaker 1>it right down to its base elements, and then making

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<v Speaker 1>a plan of action and then executing.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I'd be planning a social game, so be rewatching

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<v Speaker 2>Survivor where you just watched James Bond and Mission Impossible movies,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is how you became a challenge based you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to talk about this show Man's because it

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<v Speaker 2>was a huge part of your storyline. Did you go

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<v Speaker 2>into the house thinking that there might be a love

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<v Speaker 2>interest for you?

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely knew that there was the potential for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was something that I wasn't too sure if

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to enter into, because then I would you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that can be used as a weakness, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I did have a girlfriend on there, then they could

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<v Speaker 1>use that as all right, we're going to start attacking

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<v Speaker 1>her to get to him, you know, if I'm untouchable.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was a hard one to have one to

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<v Speaker 1>pick because it's like, do you want to go down

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<v Speaker 1>that storyline and does that want to be what you're

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<v Speaker 1>known for on Big Brother as well. That's another thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's lingering in the background, because I really was focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on the challenges and the social game and the strat

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<v Speaker 1>but then all of a sudden, you are now mixed

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<v Speaker 1>up in this like little relationship and it's a hard

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<v Speaker 1>one to you know, get out of once you're ended

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened, right so after we split, you know, when our

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<v Speaker 1>separate ways, then people started playing us against each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, you feel segregated, and essentially what

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<v Speaker 1>we really wanted was to just for the house to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to normal. We don't want to have to

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<v Speaker 1>be in these awkward encounters in the house, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I go to the spa, she doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to the spa, or if I go to the

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<v Speaker 1>living room, she's avoiding that, or vice versa, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, it was it was tricky. It was tricky.

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<v Speaker 5>Did seem to play itself out like an unrequired romance,

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<v Speaker 5>and the audience was continuously tweeting and wanting to know,

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<v Speaker 5>were you ever really interested in Alicia?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I was for a short period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the game kind of set back in, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, And like I went in there

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<v Speaker 1>to for myself to prove to myself that I could

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<v Speaker 1>push my body to limits and see the new heights

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<v Speaker 1>that I could reach and that type of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess with the relationship side of things, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>A bit of a wild card.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I did know it was on the books, it

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<v Speaker 1>could happen, but I didn't want that to take things over.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that's a big part of why I

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<v Speaker 3>was holding back a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bit of a bittersweet taste in the mouth

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<v Speaker 2>of the Australian audiences watching the show over the kiss

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<v Speaker 2>that you have with Alisha. Some people thought that that

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<v Speaker 2>was a desperate scramble for you to get her vote,

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<v Speaker 2>which that's not how I read it, because I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of felt like you knew you already had her vote

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<v Speaker 2>without the kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried. I believe I could be going home. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something I need to do, and I think that if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I feel like I would have regrets.

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<v Speaker 5>But how do you read into that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think it's fair for the Australian audience to

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<v Speaker 2>believe that that kiss was just manufactured or orchestrated to

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<v Speaker 2>keep yourself in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely didn't see it that way, obviously because

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<v Speaker 1>I lived at hand. But another big part of it

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<v Speaker 1>as well, like they've only showed one conversation that we've

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 1>had outside of that, you know, on the other side

0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of the breakup, right, So we had so many conversations

0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.399
<v Speaker 1>with each other about what we're going to do next,

0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:17.119
<v Speaker 1>and how we feel and that type of thing. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it was just a lack of information,

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a lack of knowledge that you know, people can junct

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 1>to these conclusions and say that, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>using that as as leverage, but you know, she also

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<v Speaker 1>made up her own mind and she was backing me

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<v Speaker 1>in the scramble.

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<v Speaker 3>And even after we did break up, she was like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>we're still mates.

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<v Speaker 1>I still wanted to go back to normal, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was still on the OG side, I mean, on the

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<v Speaker 1>newbie side, and she wasn't going to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>OG side just because we broke up. She still knew

0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that I was a good player and that I still

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<v Speaker 1>would have her back.

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<v Speaker 3>I never for one second said that I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to ask not just for you, but for

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<v Speaker 2>Drew as well. The telltales sign that boys aren't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>into their girls is where they go on a camping

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<v Speaker 2>trip and say, let's go home and kill our wives.

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<v Speaker 2>So was it strange severe what have you called severe

0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.840
<v Speaker 2>analogy there? But was that a telltale sign that maybe

0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Drew didn't care for Sam as much as maybe Sam

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<v Speaker 2>cared for Drew.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I was shocked when Drew came up to me with

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<v Speaker 1>that proposition.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm telling you something right now, there's something I definitely

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<v Speaker 6>could never do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that I would not also do that you

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<v Speaker 3>would also not do. Yeah, but I can do your thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you could do mine.

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<v Speaker 1>He just gave me a proposition that he would take

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<v Speaker 1>out Alicia down the track if I can get Sam

0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the victims and didn't show up. But I actually had

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<v Speaker 1>to reiterate to him. I was like, just so you

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<v Speaker 1>were clear, right, I'm going to get rid of Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get rid of Alisia? Yeah, And he

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<v Speaker 1>was like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And I was sweet good because I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 6>very clear because then I knew as soon as he

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<v Speaker 6>started talking, I was like, all right, he has given

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<v Speaker 6>me so much ammunition.

0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm going to be hit and in with everything,

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like, all right. As soon as

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.160
<v Speaker 1>she started talking, I was like, all right, Joe, you've

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:12.200
<v Speaker 1>got to listen to this conversation. But at the same time,

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm planning the next five steps ahead of this. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, all right, I'm gonna tell Alsha straight up.

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:19.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, she needs to know that this is what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. I'm going to tell Taraz to back me up.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two people, and then the two people I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to keep close. Right then I was like, all right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then I need to get Drew on the chopping block

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<v Speaker 1>and how do I turn the numbers, you know in

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<v Speaker 1>the house? And as we all know, the floaters hold

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of power in the house because we have

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<v Speaker 1>two big sides, and Sam was a floater, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>As she started leaning towards.

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<v Speaker 1>The og side, I was like, well, is she you

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<v Speaker 1>know it gets winned that her boyfriend has made a

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<v Speaker 1>deally get rid of her.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not going to be very happy. She's not really

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<v Speaker 3>going to have him in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, cool, I'll use that to play

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Drew and then they'll be going.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was that was my play.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the term is pulling the pin. I think

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 2>you pulled the pin and threw a grenade as you

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:09.159
<v Speaker 2>left the show, and everyone online was talking about this

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 2>move from Estelle last night. Getting the J crew separated

0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.800
<v Speaker 2>is a big move. I think that the ripple effect

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<v Speaker 2>of what you've just done with pulling the pin in

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 2>this scenario will have more long term effects than even

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<v Speaker 2>removing and separating the J crew.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, Like you play with fire, you're getting it

0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>burned like I was going out with a bang, That's

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:29.040
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:31.399
<v Speaker 3>It's a smart play by a Stell as well.

0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, absolutely she had to do and she

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, everyone knew that this is the one opportunity

0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 1>that they had to get rid of me.

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:39.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, it is what it is.

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like I definitely left some fires burning in

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the back of the walls, and you know, they were

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:47.320
<v Speaker 1>still in the living room and there's nothing on fire

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:48.040
<v Speaker 1>in there at the moment.

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 3>But the river come down soon enough.

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I can say, knowing Estelle as well as I do

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.919
<v Speaker 2>and knowing her love of rap music, she understands that

0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you've got one shut what's.

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<v Speaker 3>The one shut? One opportunity?

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<v Speaker 5>Way, I'm moving on, moving on very quickly.

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Little stab, little stab she did get rid of me. Okay,

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I go to my little jabs when I can.

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 2>She's fantastic television to watch this series, so, you know,

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's just starting to get more and

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.680
<v Speaker 2>more interesting. Is there anything that you would do differently?

0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what, As silly as it probably sounds, no, Like,

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I had such a good time in there.

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.640
<v Speaker 3>I gave it everything I had, And if I.

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Could do anything differently, I would have just stayed up

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>there for a little bit longer.

0:24:29.640 --> 0:24:31.480
<v Speaker 3>That's about it, I think. So.

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I knew it was a high riskireward game and

0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I was playing to the best of my ability, and

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>then I lost the challenge and now mount So yeah,

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>but it was great.

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 3>It was great, like the experience was.

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing, like lots of highs, lots of lows,

0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Like I learned so much about myself and how to

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 1>operate and all that sort of stuff, especially coming out.

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 4>Of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>So You're reunited with your ex girlfriend now in the

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<v Speaker 2>real world, and I've met Victoria. She's wonderful. How have

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<v Speaker 2>you gone watching the show together? Has she found it

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>hard to watch with the Alicia storyline? Has she found

0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 2>she been a bit critical on how you know you

0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:07.840
<v Speaker 2>could go?

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 5>Has she been?

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 2>I can imagine, knowing Victoria now as well as I

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<v Speaker 2>do that she'd probably hit you and say, well, what's

0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>going on here? How's it?

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 4>God?

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Watching the show, it's very fiery as she is. But

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 3>it's great. I love it. It's good. Now.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Victoria's been good about it, like she's been watching the

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<v Speaker 1>challenges and the strat and that type of thing. And

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 1>then you know it's to kind of look away from

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the TV when I'm cuddling up to Alicia and that

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>type of thing. But yeah, she's fine, she's supportive, and yeah,

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>she just doesn't really want to watch me knoling with

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<v Speaker 1>someone else on TV, which I totally get.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>You just have to say, what does Sandra Bullock say

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>in Speed? You know, relationships based on extreme situations never last.

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 5>That one.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what happens with Big Brother. All of these relationships

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 2>that happened in the house, they never last. Never everyone's

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in the house.

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 5>I love you?

0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 2>How come I met my soulmate on Big Brother? And

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 2>then new Idea of Woman's Day Everything relationship got put.

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah for TV Week, which gone don't miss

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 5>out on TV.

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Week that's you guys, get in there.

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Have you made any lifelong friends? Because the Big Brother

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 2>experience is quite interesting. Inside the show, you can have

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 2>very extreme connections with people, then after the show the

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.400
<v Speaker 2>bonds can shift. You know, who have you walked out

0:26:28.440 --> 0:26:31.560
<v Speaker 2>of the show and what might surprise Australia to know

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 2>is your your lifelong friends?

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Trass, for sure. I caught up with him last night.

0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>We watched my eviction together and like, he's such a

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 1>good guy, Like I love him, I reckon you know,

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.239
<v Speaker 1>he's going to do pretty well with the challenges and

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>his social game that sort of stuff.

0:26:49.640 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm keen to see what he does in the show.

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's just an awesome guy, super supportive when

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you know when we've we've caught up recently while the

0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>show's airing, like where he's talking about the different pros

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and cons and like the little conversations that were missed

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that.

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he's awesome and he lives like twenty minutes

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 3>from me, which is so crazy.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>A lot of fans are also discussing online about the

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 2>series and what improvements they want. If you could change

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 2>any element now that you've actually played the game. Is

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>there anything in the Big Brother Game you would like

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>to change?

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I reckon that they should like incorporate the weekly voting

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 1>with the nominations challenge.

0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Right, so if you were to win the challenge, you know,

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:32.160
<v Speaker 3>you have three.

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Housemates go up, Australia could vote and save one of those,

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and then the housemates would vote on the last two.

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I think that'd be good because that would incorporate a

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.040
<v Speaker 1>social side of the game as well, not just purely

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.480
<v Speaker 1>challenge based and becoming a big threat and that type

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>of thing. Because if you were able to actually show

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that you're a genuine person, you can people can connect

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>with you, and that type of thing like that shows

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:57.719
<v Speaker 1>through a lot more than just winning a challenge that

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, like if it was me Reggie in a

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.959
<v Speaker 1>tug of war, well, you know I'm going to win that.

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, if she were to change, and people

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.919
<v Speaker 1>who looked at my personality versus her personality, people might

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>fall in love with mine and hate hers or vice versa.

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>And that way it would be a level playing field

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that wouldn't purely just be all right, you win challenges,

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>let's attack this guy. You know, Okay, you've oh, you

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>won this one and you've nominated my friends. Well now

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going down. It's more of an Australia to look

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and be like, oh, well, you know that was a

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 1>smart play. We want to back this guy, or no,

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.959
<v Speaker 1>we don't like his play. He's playing dirty, you know.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>So it's I think that make it better having the

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 1>two part element of the voting for nominations.

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I think all of the super fans of

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Big Brother or the purest of Big Brother are hoping

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>for that live element because yes, there's a lot of

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 2>talk about the challenges and how different that's made the game.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 2>But I think ultimately the missing piece of the puzzle

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>is Australia's involvement on the control of the house. There

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>needs to be some of that now. To celebrate twenty

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 2>one years of Big Brother, I've dug out Bretel Colleen's

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>questions that she asked every housemate for six years that

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>she hosted the show. She had a top ten questions

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 2>that she would ask. We're going to fly through these,

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>so these are sort of you don't need to go

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 2>into as much detail otherwise we'll be here all day.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna go Are you ready?

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 3>I am? Let's get it.

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 5>What did you miss the most inside the Big Brother House.

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 3>I missed the beach. I like, I love going to

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 3>the beach every day I can.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I just missed going to the sunrise of

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the morning, get my coffee, watching the sun come up,

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and then startying my day.

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>That was That was it? Hardly.

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 5>Who was your favorite person in the house?

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 3>Trass?

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>He was cool. He was just mad on every front.

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>He was quirky, he was funny, he had good strategy.

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, you just you can't not love him.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 5>Who was your least favorite person inside the Big Brother House?

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Least favorite?

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>You know what I think is it'd have to be Gabby.

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately I did probably like that here and this, But

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you know I tried to pull some big plays off,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and she kept floating between science and you know, as

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you can see. At one point in time, I you know,

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>told her that you know, trust is a currency, and

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you don't have trust, and what.

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you have?

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 5>Who had the most annoying habit?

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it had to be a Stelle, Actually she had.

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>She kept asking people to be mindful of the like

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>the power usage in the house, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an odd thing to ask when there's hundreds of cameras going,

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<v Speaker 1>there's hundreds of lights going, there's led strip turning on

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<v Speaker 1>and off down the hallway, and she was asking us

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<v Speaker 1>to all, you know, put out, not put our clothes in.

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<v Speaker 3>The dryer, but hang them up on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you can see the line,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's something about four lengths of you know, space,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's this is only enough for her for about

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<v Speaker 1>six towns.

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<v Speaker 5>Who was the laziest person in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, the laziest person.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I didn't really see it because I was always

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of in there doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But apparently, like at least she didn't really do a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot. When it came to the cooking and cleaning.

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<v Speaker 1>She definitely tried to give it a go, but I

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<v Speaker 1>found her evading a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, maybe even Gabby as well.

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<v Speaker 5>What was your greatest regret?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the threat to Gabby.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that could have been done a better way.

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<v Speaker 1>So in that.

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<v Speaker 3>Situation, what actually occurred was I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Drew circling me during that conversation, and then I had

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<v Speaker 1>Tim sitting only a couple of meters away, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just trying to get my point across in the

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<v Speaker 1>most concise direct way possible. And what I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>did was remove myself and Gabby from that whole situation

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<v Speaker 1>and speak to her outside, you know, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to give up my entire plan, So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to give the short, sharp, sweet answer, which came across

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<v Speaker 1>pretty harshly. And then as a result, Gabby was the

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<v Speaker 1>swing and decided.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep Drew.

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<v Speaker 5>Who will be the next person out of Big Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it'd be Tully or a Stelle because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd hope that the j crew would be straight onto

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<v Speaker 1>a Stelle, you know, as she's put all three of

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<v Speaker 1>us up and then I've left. But then also with Tully,

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<v Speaker 1>like the deal that I made with Tim and Drew,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they would still want to follow through with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But so yeah, I reckon one of those two would

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<v Speaker 1>be going.

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<v Speaker 5>Who do you think is going to win Big Brother

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<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty two?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh look, I've always said this and I'll continue saying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon tras like he's just such a good guy,

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<v Speaker 1>fun loving and as you see, like in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of challenges, is not too far behind.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that as more brant runners to get

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<v Speaker 1>picked off. He's just gonna be able to step up.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Like I remember the first eviction ceremony when

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<v Speaker 1>we had the option to either keep the eviction and

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead with it and see someone go home or

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<v Speaker 1>save everyone. I remember sitting there thinking myself, like, how

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<v Speaker 1>I answer this is how I'll be seen on TV?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? But then Tarrass gets asked a question by Sonya,

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<v Speaker 3>what are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, this is something that probably goes against

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<v Speaker 1>the grain for everyone here and how everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen and all that type of thing, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is coming from the heart, and I believe that this election.

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<v Speaker 3>Should go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just so crazy to see that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have like he wasn't worried about any consequences at that

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<v Speaker 1>point in time. He was just speaking his absolute truth.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, this guy is amazing. He is

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<v Speaker 1>just the coolest dude for doing that, and I admired him,

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<v Speaker 1>and from that day on we really clicked and became

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<v Speaker 1>good friends and we still love.

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<v Speaker 2>I love forever friendship out of Big Brother House. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a few of those myself. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>before you go something, I ask everybody something I ask

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<v Speaker 2>everyone who joins the podcast gets this question. That is,

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<v Speaker 2>what is something from behind the scenes that we did

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>not see from your Big Brother experience? We won't see

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a behind the scenes secret about the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Brother experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no ceiling.

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>There's actually a lot of light boxes and air conditioning

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>ducts and stuff like.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.759
<v Speaker 3>That, you know, all the really good lighting that makes

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:13.959
<v Speaker 3>us hopefully look good on TV.

0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>So no ceiling, just beautiful lighting. A lot of ring

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>lights for all those ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh for sure, the whole ceiling which is coming in rings.

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<v Speaker 2>Really mate, I absolutely have loved watching you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a very memorable player for the twenty twenty two series.

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<v Speaker 2>I've disappointed you're out because I think that you would

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<v Speaker 2>have definitely shaken up the game. But thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for joining us on TV Relo today and good

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<v Speaker 2>luck with your post Big Brother experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, cheers, Thanks hes Ben, thanks for having me.