1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Mikayla Tester permanently brands herself Bruby. Tuesday, 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Matthews is labeled selfish after another airport debacle. Tammy Hembro 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: and Rhys Hawkins a praise for their co parenting feet 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: and how Camilla Parker Bowls went from public enemy number 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: one to the Queen of England. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I wanted 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: to kick Monday off with some recommendations because I got 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: my period back recently, well my real period, for the 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: first time. I've been on the pill since I was sixteen, 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: and the whole reason I went on the pill was 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: because I had some acne. So I've been petrified that 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 1: it's going to come back, and I've been really tightening 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: up my skin routine. So I want to recommend the 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: LaRose per Se forclot micro peeling purifying. Jela probably butchered 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: that name. This is not sponsored, but my pimples are 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: at bay at the moment, so I wanted to share 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: that with others. Amy and I have been off the 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: pill for a couple of years now, and you have 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: been harassing us being like, when do your pimples show up? 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: When did your skin get greasy? And you did have 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: a bit of grease developing a couple of weeks ago, 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: so I knew that your friend was on its way. 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I've also got a recommendation for everybody. You guys have 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: already copped an earful about it all weekend because I 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: haven't stopped talking about the Glucose Goddess. After she was 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: featured on the Diary of a CEO. I downloaded her 28 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: book instantly. It's called The Glucose Revolution, and I've only 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: got probably half an hour left in the book, and 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: I've already like, I've got half an hour left just 31 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: listening to it. No, just I've been non stop listening 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: to it. And I've also pre ordered her Glucose Guide. 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: It is life changing. I'm just so sick of hearing 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: about it because I rang you on the way to 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: driving to record and you're like, oh, what did you 36 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: eat for breakfast? I'm like a smoothie. And then you're like, oh, no, 37 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: well you actually should have done this and this, and 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: you've done everything wrong. I'm like, I don't want to 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: hear it. It comes from such a caring place, like yesterday, 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: so when I went to the soupermarket, and so if 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: he's like to Amy, what should I be buying for 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: my breakfast? Like I need your health? Can we just breakfast? 43 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: This isn't a diet that's about weight loss. It's about 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: overall health and keeping your glucose levels at bay. It's 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: all about health. I've just got so obsessed with listening 46 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: to these health podcasts because for me, I just want 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: to be feeling healthy again, like I've started eating meat again. 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm all in it for just optimal health. I feel 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: like that happens when you get in your thirties, like 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: you're all about taking care of yourself, getting a good 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: night sleep, getting a good mealing. But you don't have 52 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: to preach to those of us who are enjoying some chocolate. No, 53 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: but in the glucos Goddess says you can have chocolate, 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: You can have all that sort of stuff. Anyway, Go 55 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: and listen to her podcast on the Diary OVERSEEO it's 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: so good. Well, I've also got a podcast recommendation. It 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: is the recent episode on Just the GISTs that dropped 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: last week and it's about Chris Jennet. So for those 59 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: who haven't come across that podcast before, basically they give 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: you all the interesting details about a certain topic that 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: you could repeat easily at a dinner party. So just 62 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: the gist of it, Yeah, pretty much. I love that 63 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: as an Adelaide podcast, So shout out to just the gist. 64 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they need us shouting them out. 65 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: They're doing bloody well at the moment. Yeah, But this 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Ris Jenna one, because I do know a lot about 67 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: Chris Jenner, but there were things I didn't know that 68 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: were mentioned in there, and it was just presented in 69 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: a really cool way. So I highly recommend that episode. 70 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: Literally so much bucked up. She happened to me when 71 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: I was in school. But one day someone pult a 72 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: half eaten meat pie with tomato sauce in my school 73 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: bag and when I pulled out my textbooks, it was 74 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: literally mince and cheese and tomato sauce all of my 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: textbook and these were't mine, like I had bowed them 76 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: from the library. 77 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester has announced her collaboration with White Fox Boutique 78 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: in a very permanent way. The only fans star got 79 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: the brand's logo tattooed on her wrist at the fast 80 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: fashion label's latest influencer event. However, not all influences were 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: impressed with the brand event, Kay, can you tell us 82 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: about the party? Well, White Fox held a party to 83 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: celebrate the launch of their Archive six point zero collection, 84 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: and as you can imagine, there are a lot of 85 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: influencers invited to the party, but to be honest, there 86 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: were a lot that I didn't recognize. The bulk appeared 87 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: to be micro influencers. There were a few big names 88 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: like Mikayla Tester as you mentioned, Gracie Piscapo was also there, 89 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: and TikTok star Phonsie Gomez. There were also a few 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: reality contestants like Josh Moss and Al Perkins. A big 91 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: noticeable absentee. Though with Sarah's day and she has released 92 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: multiple active wear lines with the brand, she usually doesn't 93 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: attend influencer events though, so it wasn't completely out of 94 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: the ordinary. 95 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 96 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: She did say in a recent podcast interview with Grace 97 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Beverley that it was a strategic move of hers not 98 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: to go to a lot of these influencer events because 99 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: it makes her unrelatable to her audience. I mean I 100 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: would argue that she is quite unrelatable now. So, as 101 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: you say, Kate, wasn't a huge surprise not to see 102 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: her there. I feel like she would have stood out 103 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: like a sore thumb at this event. The people looked 104 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: very young that were there. It was almost a throwback 105 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: to the old school influencer events. Everyone was decked out 106 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: in the White Fox Boutique lounge where there was a 107 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: piercing station there where influencers could, as the name suggests, 108 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: get free piercing. There was also a tattoo parlor where 109 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: influencers could literally get branded with the White Fox Boutique logo. 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: Is that all you could get tattoo? No? So there 111 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: were other tattoos and they were those on and fine 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: line one way. So are we sure this was a 113 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: real White Fox Boutique tattoo? Yes, it was definitely real. 114 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: They showed vision of her getting tattooed by the tattoo 115 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: artists at the event. She shared a photo later on 116 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: on her Instagram story with the fresh ink writing, so 117 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: I did a thing and tagged White Fox Boutique. And 118 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: she actually used this moment to plug her collaboration with 119 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: the Fast Fashion House, writing you'll better buy the fuck 120 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: out of my collection with White Fox Boutique June sixth, 121 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: Save the date. I kind of hope she's getting paid 122 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot, considering she's branded herself for life with this tattoo. 123 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: It reminds me of those meet and greets we saw 124 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: late last year with Anna Paul and Addis Paul where 125 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: people were getting their signatures tattooed on their wrists and 126 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: also these weird, ugly photos of them. Does it remind 127 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: you because it feels like instant regret. It was on 128 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: her wrist as well. It's not like it's on her back. 129 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: She can't see it, you know, it was in a 130 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: very obvious spot. Is this something we're going to now 131 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: see in the influencer space where brands actually pay an 132 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: influencer to be literally branded with their logo and then 133 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: for life. Surely this deal must be worth a lot 134 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: of money for her to be agreeing to have White 135 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Fox Boutiques logo on her forever. I mean, we've seen 136 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: Sarah's day name her son Fox after White Fox. Oka 137 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: Is White Fox actually giving these influences more money for 138 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: stunts like this? It's like a cult wants to in. 139 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: What do you reckon? She could turn it into like 140 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: you know all those tattoo nightmare shows on that show 141 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: where they end up making the tattoo look ten times 142 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: worse than origin. Yeah, what could she have? She could 143 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: slap a big picture of Adas Paul over it or 144 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: something I did see the other day that she posted 145 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: that she's been making her gay best friend wear the 146 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: same jewelry that Addas Paul wears so that she can 147 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: pretend that he is Adis in some of her photos 148 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: and it makes her feel better. Well, why would she 149 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: tell everyone that though? If she's trying to well, I 150 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: think makes pointing out that it's not Adis, that it's 151 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: actually her best friend, because that makes perfect sense. It's 152 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: another way to try and chip away at Addis and 153 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: try and get him to get back with it. I 154 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: feel like that's one way for him not to want 155 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: to get back with her. Yeah, it's a bit weird now. 156 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: Mikayla's tattoo wasn't the only thing that got people talking 157 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: at the event. The following day, to micro influencers who 158 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: attended slammed White Fox. So Tiana Sala, who describes herself 159 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: as a curve model, claimed the brand allegedly used her 160 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: for clothing size. She said, I'm so disappointed and absolutely 161 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: mortified about last night's event. When I got the invitation, 162 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I really didn't want to go because I knew how 163 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: it was going to go, but I thought i'd keep 164 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: an open mind. I should have trusted my gut feeling 165 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: I felt like I was being used for my clothing 166 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: size from White Fox Boutique to say they were being inclusive, 167 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: yet their treatment was anything but that. The favoritism to 168 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: partique creators compared to anyone who was a normal size 169 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: or plus was apparent from White Fox Boutique as a 170 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: company and those they give a platform too. The stairs 171 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: and attitude these influencers were giving us was disgusting and 172 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: they need to go touch some grass and humble the 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: fuck up. Tiana's friend and fellow micro influencer Kayla Ashley 174 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: urged the brand to pick better brand representatives. She wrote 175 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: on her story, as much as I wish I could 176 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: thank White Fox for a great event, I cannot. White 177 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Fox truly will never change its image. I gave them 178 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: a chance and I got nothing out of it. They 179 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: need to be more picky with who they choose to 180 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: invite to their events slash represent their brand because they're 181 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: doing a pretty shit job at it. Disappointed, but not 182 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: surprised at least I can say I tried, first and 183 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: last time doing them any favors. This is actually one 184 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: of the first times I've heard an influencer slam a 185 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: brand event that they were at. And the whole point 186 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: of these events is to generate good pr and reach 187 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: these influencers audiences in a positive way, and what has 188 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: happened is the complete opposite, and it really just shows 189 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: that the brand can't rely on virtue signaling and their 190 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: actions really need to match up with their messaging. I 191 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: think these women clearly felt used and they thought, Okay, 192 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: we're going to give White Fox an opportunity because perhaps 193 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: they are trying to represent plus size women and they're 194 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: trying to do the right thing. But clearly they attended 195 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: the event and were treated like second class citizens at 196 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: this event by it seems like White Fox and also 197 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: the other influences that were there. This is obviously allegedly 198 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: we don't know what actually went on. This is how 199 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: the girl said they actually felt though to look at 200 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: White Fox boutiques Instagram stories because they were quite a 201 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: few shared of this event, and I actually couldn't think 202 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: of somewhere I would rather not be. I would feel 203 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: so uncomfortable going to this event because everyone just looked 204 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: so arrogant and unapproachable. It kind of gave across that 205 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: popular high school vibes, and I think that's the vibe 206 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: that this brand doesn't want to push. It's not really inclusive. 207 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: It's funny because when you looked at the guests attending, 208 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: it did look like White Fox Boutique were being inclusive. 209 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: I noticed a lot of different nationalities and different body 210 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: sites as However, when you look at their website, they 211 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: only offer clothes from extra small to extra large, which 212 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: isn't size inclusive at all. And I personally would rather 213 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: a brand not pretend to be inclusive if they're not 214 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: making the right steps to actually be inclusive. What do 215 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: you guys think about Kayla and Tiana putting the blame 216 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: on the influences that were at the event. They made 217 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: some remarks in comment sections about how the people that 218 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: are up White Foxes are so are a part of 219 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the problem. I don't have an issue with this at all. 220 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: If you were going to act like a complete jerk 221 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: at any influencer event whilst you're amongst peers, I think 222 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: you should be called out. Yeah, and they didn't name 223 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: anybody specifically, or I think they were pointing it towards 224 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: Mikayla Tester because someone wrote mix slander will not be tolerated. 225 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: She's faced her own share of discrimination from brands because 226 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: of her line of work. She would be upset that 227 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: women left her event feeling this way, and Kayla responded saying, 228 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but so many women leave their event feeling 229 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: this way. This is not new or an unknown thing 230 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: for those up White Fox's ass If you don't personally 231 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: know people and their traits, do not assume how they 232 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: would feel about something. If anyone at the event cared, 233 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: they would have cut ties with White Fox youths. That's 234 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: such a good point. It might not have been that 235 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Mikayla was rude to them, But what they're saying is 236 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: she is the face of this collaboration. She's part of 237 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: the problem because she's supporting White Fox Boutique through this collaboration. 238 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: I do judge influencers when I see them promoting White 239 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: Fox Boutique, but I did notice that there seemed to 240 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: be a lot of micro influencers at their event, and 241 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: not really big name people. There are a few, you know, 242 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: people with a couple of million followers. I mean, we've 243 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: seen Sofa do for completely cool White Fox boutique out 244 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: and she's one of the it girls of TikTok at 245 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: the moment. The fact that she's not stamping her approval 246 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: over this brand says a lot. I thought I would 247 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: film just a bit of our whole weekend. Who knows 248 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: what we'll get up to. Tammy Hembrey and ex Reese 249 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: Hawkins reunited this weekend to celebrate their son Wolf's eighth birthday. 250 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: The wonderful display of co parenting is being heavily praised. 251 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what was better the fact that Tammy's 252 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: sister Emily shared this video to her story or the 253 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: fact that Tammy and Reese were chowing down on burgers 254 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: at the time. You can actually hear Emily behind the 255 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: camera saying, Mum and dad, what's happening. I actually first 256 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: saw this video and influencer updates are you and I 257 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: had to look at it a few times to actually 258 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: work out who the people were because it looks different. 259 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: I was like, who were this couple? It just Reese 260 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: looked so different. He just looked like a dad. The 261 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: timing of it definitely does seem kind of curious because 262 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: Tammy and Reese are both seemingly single at the moment, 263 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of discussion that when Reese 264 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: shacked up with London that things were a bit rocky 265 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: between him and Tammy. So the fact that they're both single, 266 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: I think that there's not as much in the way. 267 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: It did give. 268 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: Very couplely vibes. Well, the commentary from Emily as well 269 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: was a bit sort of suspicious. Yeah, it's kind of 270 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: like they are trying to soft launch it and see 271 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: what people say. Well, it's not the first time Reese 272 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: has been at one of his kid's birthday parties, and 273 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: again he's only been seen at the parties since he 274 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: split with London. But it's the first time we've actually 275 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: seen him and Tammy, you know, reconciling a little bit. Well, 276 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: there's been a few rumors that they've been spotted kissing 277 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: as well. Who knows how true they are. I know, well, 278 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: I feel like there's gonna be a lot of wild 279 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: rumors about them swirling. Now that this footage has been aired, yeah, definitely. 280 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: That being said, I think it is really nice to 281 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: see the two parents co parenting so well together and 282 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: getting along, because I'm sure Wolf was so happy to 283 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: see his parents sitting down having a great time both 284 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: being there for him on his birthday. Yeah. Well, at 285 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: the same time this video of Tammy and Reese emerged, 286 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Matt Paul made a snarky remark on his own Instagram account. 287 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: So he shared a photo on Saturday of him posing 288 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: on a balcony, and someone commented suggesting that he should 289 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: use the photo for an online dating profile, and he replied, 290 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't need Tinder. I'm happy with the new upgrade, 291 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: and he added a winking face emoji. Now, as you 292 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: can imagine, there was a lot of backlash after this comment, 293 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: but Matt claimed he's on good terms with Tammy, writing, 294 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: calm your speculation. The upgrade has nothing to do with 295 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: what you were thinking. The mother of our child and 296 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: I are fine. I'm single and certainly not miserable. Now. 297 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: Matt went on to claim that the original commenter was 298 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: a mate who sold him a surfboard, and he claims 299 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: the new upgrade comment is in reference to this new 300 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: surfboard and not about dating. I think this was just 301 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: a misunderstanding and also people reading a lot into his comment. 302 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: But doesn't he realize that people are going to be 303 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: reading a lot into his comments? I mean, I know 304 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: that they have come, they're not together anymore, but people 305 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: are going to be keeping an eagle eye on what 306 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: he writes, particularly if he's making references to relationships. Don't 307 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: you just want to sometimes have a bit of a 308 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: laugh with your friends and a bit of a joke. 309 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: But I think it was pointed and then he's suddenly backtracking. 310 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, it's not about that at all. How 311 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: do you upgrade from Tammy? Hembro though? 312 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: Two minutes wait for that and drug. 313 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: They would not let us drop our bags so literally 314 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: like Ruby Tuesday, Matthews has sparked debate after declaring airlines 315 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: should bend the rules for people traveling alone with children. 316 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: The Byron Bay influencer and her three children were unable 317 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: to board their flight home from Fiji because she missed 318 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: the bag drop off by two minutes. Kate, what happened? 319 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: So unfortunately they missed the bag drop off by a 320 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. And Ruby. Tuesday, Matthews went to an 321 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: Instagram story and said, this our flag hasn't even brought 322 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: in all that. 323 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: We are not getting on it even though we are 324 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: checked in, like surely we were jes Let someone with 325 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: two kids traveling by themselves checking ring an out slide 326 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: by whatever, especially in the airport is a size an 327 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: airport for ants. 328 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Now. Fortunately for Ruby and her kids, the airline did 329 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: manage to move them on to the next flight free 330 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: of charge, and Ruby went on to say how understanding 331 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: and lovely the air hostess was. She finished up by saying, 332 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: I feel like an idiot, but I really wasn't late. 333 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: It was Rocket that made me late. I swear to God. 334 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: Now Rocket is her son? Do you reckon? The original 335 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: check in stuff knew who she was and they clocked 336 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: her and said, hold on a second. This woman a 337 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, she held up a whole plane 338 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: because she was late because she wanted to have oysters. Look. 339 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if that story has made news in Fiji, 340 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: so I don't think that would have been the case. 341 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: But I think people's lack of compassion is coming from 342 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: that story that made headlines in twenty twenty. For those 343 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: who can't remember, Ruby held up a plane for thirty 344 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: minutes to have an oyster dinner with a friend. It 345 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: just reminds me of that TV show they featured easy 346 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: Jet and everyone be like thirty seconds late and they'd 347 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: be like, Nah, you can't go on like that. There 348 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: just be such assholes. I understand though, that there needs 349 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: to be rules in an airport. I'm someone that runs 350 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: late all the time, but when it comes to being 351 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: on time front airport, you just have to be because 352 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes can end up delaying the whole fight. 353 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: It can leave people waiting on the time Act for 354 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: hours and hours. It's sometimes like when you've got kids, 355 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: there should be a bit of leeway, like they can 356 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: actually rush the bags through. And I can see what 357 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Ruby's saying in terms of can they have a bit 358 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: of leniency. Could they see that she was struggling with 359 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: their children. But the thing is, oh, one or two minutes. 360 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: Where's the cutoff? Then? Is five to ten minutes? Okay? 361 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: Is ten to twenty minutes? I think it's at the 362 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: I think it's at the airline staff member's discretion whether 363 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: they can rush the bags through. I think most people 364 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: if this was just a regular person or a friend 365 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: that put up this story on their Instagram and we're saying, 366 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: oh my god, we've missed it by two minutes, I 367 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: think there would have been a lot more compassion and 368 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: understanding for that person and a lot of anger thrown 369 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: towards the airline. But because it is an influencer who 370 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: has had a past of holding up planes for sort 371 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: of selfish reasons, that's why there was no sympathy. Can 372 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: you imagine though, if they said, oh, yeah, we'll try 373 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: and get your bags on the flight, and then Ruby 374 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: flies home and doesn't get her bags, and she probably 375 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: would have complained then about the service. It's just I 376 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: think it is a little bit selfish to have a 377 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: rant on your Instagram story about, oh, you know, it's 378 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: not my fault, it's my son's fault. Oh my gosh, Kate, 379 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: that would totally be you if you had kids and 380 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: one of them held you up. The amount of times 381 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: you blame your dogs for things as well for being late, Yeah, 382 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: I think that's so hypocritical. Yeah, but I haven't also 383 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: held up an airline to go have oysters for thirty minutes. 384 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: Yes, it's King Charles is one hundred million pound coronation. 385 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: Let's watch as he parades through the streets and a 386 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: golden horse and courage. Meanwhile, four million children can't afford food. 387 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: Over the weekend, King Charles and his wife Camilla were 388 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: crowned in a historic coronation which is predicted to have 389 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: cost one hundred million pounds. So how did Camilla Parker 390 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: Bowls go from public enemy numbers one to England's new Queen? Now, 391 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: before we get into it, so let's first dive into 392 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: the lengths King Charles went to to ensure Prince Harry 393 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: didn't take the spotlight away from him. Yeah. Well, following 394 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: months of speculation, Prince Harry did end up attending his 395 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: father's coronation, whilst Meghan Mirkels stayed at home in California 396 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: to celebrate their son Archie's fourth birthday. And the date 397 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: did raise a lot of eyebrows when it was first 398 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: announced because many thought it was a way to give 399 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: Meghan and Harry an out not to attend the coronation. 400 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: And it is the second royal occasion to share a 401 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: date with Harry and Meghan's children. So the Queen's platinum Jubilee. 402 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: It also fell on their daughter Lilybet's first birthdays. I 403 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: feel like it's a bad pr move for the Royal 404 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: family in general to plan these events on Harry's kids' birthdays. 405 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: It's quite obvious that they're doing it for a reason, 406 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: and it makes it look like they don't care at all, 407 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: because you saw William's kids involved in the ceremony. Even 408 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Kimilla's grandchildren were involved in the ceremony, and then you've 409 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: got Archie and Lilibet back in America not even allowed 410 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: to attend. Essentially, Yeah, I felt sad seeing Harry by 411 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: himself and thinking, yeah, as you said that his kids 412 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: weren't involved at all. Yeah, Well, he was only in 413 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: the UK for twenty four hours and he shocked a 414 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: lot of fellow passengers because he was spotted taking a 415 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: commercial American Airlines flight to the UK on Friday. Can 416 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: you imagine just sitting next to it. Actually reminds me 417 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: of a story I saw on TikTok So. Rain Wilson, 418 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: an actor from the Office. He was on a flight 419 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: and it was during COVID time and he had a 420 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: mask on and he was sitting next to this guy 421 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: who was watching the office the whole flight, and this 422 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: guy did not realize that Rain Wilson was sitting next 423 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: to him, So towards the end of the flight, Rain 424 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: tapped on his shoulder and said, oh, do you like 425 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: that show? And as the guy's talking, he's slowly lowering 426 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: his mask to reveal who he is, and it took 427 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: the guy like forty five seconds to actually realize, and 428 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: he just freaked out. I can imagine someone being in 429 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: that similar situation with Harry. You'd probably be like, surely 430 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: that's not him, but that just having a reader Harry's 431 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: book spare Well, all eyes really were on Harry when 432 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: he walked into Westminster Abbey and this would have been 433 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: so incredibly awkward. It's my worst nightmare. Can you imagine 434 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: unleashing all this shit about your family and then coming 435 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: face to face with them for the first time when 436 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: there's all these cameras and the whole world is watching you. 437 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys realized, but Harry was 438 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: actually wearing a Christian deal suit. He looked pretty good, 439 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: but he even got slagged off in the media for 440 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: that because Christian Dior after the coronation were sharing photos 441 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: of Harry wearing the suit, and people thought maybe this 442 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: was some kind of partnership deal they'd struck her. Well, 443 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: I actually think he did a great job to act 444 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: like he wasn't really fazed by the situation, because he 445 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: did seem to be smiling and talking very animatedly with 446 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: his cousin, Princess Eugenie, and she of course recently appeared 447 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: in his Netflix doco, so it's quite apparent that they're 448 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: very close. Well, Eugenie's mum, Fergie, wasn't invited, so she's 449 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: probably having mixed feelings about the whole event. Yeah, Andrew was, Yeah, 450 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean fuck, it was just ridiculous now in what 451 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: we're supposed to come a bit of a kick in 452 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: the dick to Harry. He was demoted to third row, 453 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: so usually the son of the king would sit in 454 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: front row in the front position, And he also didn't 455 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: have any role to play in the service because William 456 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: performed a lot of duties during the ceremony. So he 457 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: knelt before his father and pledged his loyalty and faith 458 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: to him. He also clothed him with a scarf before 459 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: he was crowned. He gave him a very sweet kiss 460 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: on the cheek, which actually did. I thought that was 461 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: quite a cute moment during the coronation. Well, Charles and 462 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: the event planner, they were pretty crafty in trying to 463 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: block Harry from the television coverage because they seated him 464 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: directly behind his auntie, Princess Anne, and she was wearing 465 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: this hat with a massive red feather that literally covered 466 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: his face. It was quite funny and TikTok had a 467 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: field day with this because they drew parallels to the 468 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: time that Megan was blocked by a large yellow candle 469 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: at the Queen's Girl, So it seems like a tactic 470 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: to try and make them irrelevant. Now. King Charles wasn't 471 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: the only person crowned over the weekend. His wife Camilla 472 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: also earned herself the title of Queen Camilla. I think 473 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: it is difficult for a lot of us to get 474 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: our heads around the fact that Camilla is taking on 475 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: this top role in the royal family, particularly because when 476 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: Camilla and Charles debut their relationship, we were told that 477 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: she would take a bit of a back seat and 478 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: maybe not be acknowledged in this way. And I think 479 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the reason that she has taken on this role and 480 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: people feel comfortable about it is because of this dramatic 481 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: PR transformation that she's had. She's gone from mistress to 482 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: the Queen of England. And Harry spoke about how this 483 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: PR campaign affected him. So in his book, he wrote 484 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: that he sees himself as collateral damage in a campaign 485 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: that was orchestrated in the late nineties and early noughties 486 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: to rehabilitate Charles and Camilla's image. So Harry says Camilla 487 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: talked his father into hiring a spin doctor who is 488 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: widely believed to beat Mark Bolland. And Mark has been 489 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: described as clever, charming and very native. So during Mark's 490 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: time as a royal spin doctor, he was reportedly nicknamed 491 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: Lord Blackadder by William and Harry, and there were a 492 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: lot of fears during that time about palace leaks. So 493 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: Harry said that Camilla's need to fix her image made 494 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: her very dangerous because of how close she became with 495 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: the British press. He continued accusing his father of using 496 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: him and his brother for tabloid coverage, saying that Camilla 497 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: sacrificed me on her personal pr altar. What do you 498 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: make of his comments? I think his comments are very 499 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: relevant and I do believe that Megan Markle as well 500 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: as Prince Harry were used as collateral damage to try 501 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: and deflect negative attention away from Camilla and child. Yeah, 502 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy because when you look at the public 503 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: opinion polls on her back in two thousand and five 504 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: when they got married, it was only seven percent of 505 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: people that thought that she would become queen one day. 506 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: So in those eighteen years there has been a big turnaround. 507 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 4: Now. 508 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: Something that I couldn't stop thinking about during the coronation 509 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: when I was seeing Charles Camilla next to each other 510 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: was the whole tampon gate that happened, because that did 511 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: seriously affect their reputation at the time, because a newspaper 512 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: printed details of a secretly recorded conversation where Charles said 513 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: he wanted to be reincarnated as Camilla's tampon, and I 514 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: felt very smug telling brand in this story whilst I 515 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: was forcing him to watch the coronation and he didn't 516 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: know anything about it. It's funny how people were judging 517 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: Charles and Camilla but not judging the fact that someone 518 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: had secretly recorded their conversation and edit like, it's just 519 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: so disgusting. It's because the conversation was so wild. I mean, 520 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: who says they want to be someone's tampon? Like that's 521 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: just really fucked. It is pretty fucked. I mean, I 522 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: don't want to kink shame in Charles. It's not my 523 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Despite this big rebrand, there are a 524 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: lot of people that are still teamed Diana, and a 525 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: lot of people felt like she should have been there 526 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: at this coronation and it's not fair. The whole thing 527 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: that plagued me during this coronation was what would Princess 528 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: Tanna be thinking? And I ended up googling and trying 529 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: to see if any of her friends had spoken to 530 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: the press. So Royal biographer Andrew Morton said that the 531 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven version of Diana before she passed away, 532 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: would have been furious to find out that Camilla became 533 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: a queen. He continued saying, in those days, she would 534 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: have been absolutely mortified. But twenty five years on, you 535 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: would hope that she'd found a new love, a new life, 536 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: and a new purpose. I would have liked to think 537 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: that she would have been with Megan Markle in California, 538 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: putting on a birthday party for her. Gotcha, yes, that's 539 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: where she would have been, and sort of tisking along 540 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: with Megan having a couple of wines watching it now. 541 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: Diana's friend and former Vanity Fair editor Tina Brown echoed 542 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Morton's sentiment, saying, Diana would have loathed the idea 543 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: of Queen Camilla, There's no question about it now. Journalist 544 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: Sarah Nathan, I feel like she put it so well. 545 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: She really put my feelings into words. She said for me, 546 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: it was like watching Sliding Doors and wishing that in 547 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: another universe we have a Queen Diana. Oh God, that 548 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: really hits me particularly. I love that Sliding Doors was 549 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: from that kind of nineties as well. Well. I mean, 550 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: we could talk about the coronation for days, but I 551 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: think that is all we have time for. Thank you 552 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: so much for joining us for this episode. We do 553 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: have a new deep dive series centered on Skywheatly, which 554 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: will drop into Outspoken Plus subscribers feeds on Wednesday. I'm 555 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: really looking forward to this one. We'll be unpacking her 556 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: biggest scandals and talking about why she just doesn't seem 557 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: to be able to be canceled. This podcast was recorded 558 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the 559 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present.