1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Podcasting now reading an article online today, question being how 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: early should you have the kid? Chat? 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: So meaning do you want to have kids? 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: But what do you think I'm talking about? 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Well, I'm just clarifying. I'm just clarifying, clarifying. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Should they be outside kids or inside kids? Like? No, 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: do you of course? Do you want to have babies? 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Oh you're just going to be silent on this, of 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: course I want you to have an opinion. Well, I'm 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: not just going to talk to your post out here, mate, 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: I can have a chat with the Guardian's it's any 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: bloody awful radio. What have you got you now? You're 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: nervous about this, aren't you? 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Obviously? 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 4: So okay, So just speaking very personally someone I've had 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 4: four dates with someone currently, I'm currently on four dates. 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 4: Oh you're going straight here? Perfect, perfect, and haven't even 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 4: come near it. Yeah that conversation. 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: But how so, how old is is the woman? 21 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: Twenty eight? 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so she's twenty eight. 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: I'm thirty one. 24 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: It's not it's not not an irrelevant chat, No, it's not. 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: And the last thing I would want to do would 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 4: be to, for want of a better expression, waste someone's time. Yeah, 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: but then I'm not necessarily wasting someone's time because well, 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: I'm not sure though, I'm not sure if I want kids, 29 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: And I think that's that's difficult because if I'm saying 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: I'm not sure and they're saying I really. 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: Want kids, Because the thing is, no matter which way 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: you fall, like, no matter what side of the fence 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: you're on with this, like if you're pro kids or 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: you're against kids, whichever way you fall there, that could 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: be a deal breaker. Yes, and yeah, particularly particularly if 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you're keen on someone. I mean, you seem very keen 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: on this on this woman at the moment. Yeah, it's 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: early days, will it days, but you seem genuinely giddy 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: at the moment. Is she listening. We don't know that's true. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: We're pretty sure she doesn't. 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Okay, could be a DEALI of a pickle, But look, 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: you're keen, he's keen if you're listening. Sorry about that, 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: but I finding the age thing's big. It's obviously very 44 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: different for men as it is for women as well 45 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: because the whole body clock business. But the other side 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: of me says, it's a good chat to get going 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: on early on because you know the fact that it 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: is a deal breaker. Substantiates that it needs to be 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: a conversation that you have early on, because it's worth 50 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: knowing where the other person stands, and if you're in 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: love with them, if you are really keen on them, 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: then it's probably a good thing to get out of 53 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the way because you love them regardless. 54 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: So do you have to wait until you know you 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: love the person then before you have the chat? Because 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: MY big concern is that to have a baby chat 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: when things that it's like whoa, We've just had, you know, 58 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: two dates, it feels a serial and I think it 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: can potentially stifle a relationship and it's like, woll we're 60 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: just having fun, like we're really like are we serious? 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: And then do we want to have kids? And I 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: would worry about what that does. 63 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Have you ever had a kid chat? Though, Yes I have, 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay I have. 65 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: And I received this with X ex partner and she 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: said no, yeah right, And that was a and I 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 4: was a lot younger. This would have been four years 68 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: ago or so, so I was like whatever, like maybe I. 69 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: Don't either, and then went went along with it. 70 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if that happened now, I think that'd be like, 71 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 4: oh see, iaid five minutes ago I didn't want kids, 72 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: and now I think I. 73 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: Do want kids. That's where I mean, that's where I'm at. 74 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm fluctuating. 75 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: You're a difficult person to have the chat with one 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: six fives of phone number. How does everybody else feel 77 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: about I mean, let's try and put a window on it. 78 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: How early should you have the kids chat? Because you're saying, 79 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: you know you've seen someone for four dates, and that's 80 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: way too early. I think I'd love to hear with 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: some other people because I had it open. I had 82 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: it two dates in with my current girlfriend who second day, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 83 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: she's Dutch, she's direct, and she just laid it down 84 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: and she just said I want them with him three 85 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: years and that was a good thing for me to know. 86 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Sorry, but two dates in, surely didn't even know it. 87 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: Was a huge priority for her, and she was just like, 88 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: I just don't want you to be wasting our time. 89 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: This is something that I want and if you're keen 90 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: on me, that's what you have to know about me. 91 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Now we've negotiated since then, and I've pushed her out 92 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: to six or seven. But nice, great negotiatinganks very much 93 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, confronting, but I'm glad we did it. 94 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: We've got Hailey here on thirty one and six five. Hailey, 95 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: what do you reckon? What's too soon? 96 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: Well? I had someone who after the first date, they 97 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: actually asked me what baby names? 98 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: I like? WHOA straight to it? That might just be 99 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: a bit of it. That must be a bit of 100 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: light chat. I mean, that's not necessarily leading to what 101 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: that Oh, it's not necessarily leading to kids, you know, 102 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: that's just that might just be like, hey, you know, 103 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: hypothetically if you could have a kid. I think you've 104 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: read into it too much. Hailey, thanks for the call. 105 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: We've got Shirley has gone on thirty one and sixty five. Shirley, 106 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: what do you reckon? What's too soon to have the kid? Chat? 107 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: I did it after a month, and I probably could 108 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 3: have done it a little bit sooner. I never wanted 109 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: to have children, okay, so I just let them know 110 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 3: straight up, but we weren't going to have them. I 111 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: fee wanted to be with me. And then when we 112 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: got engaged, I said again, are you sure because I 113 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: will never have children? Yeah? 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you still still no kids. Shirley like 115 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: stuck to your guns. There there's no no. Yeah, wow, okay, 116 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's and that's a really good thing. I mean, 117 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: you know what's interesting about this shell It was just 118 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: going to get your thoughts on this. I wonder if 119 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's there's more of a need if 120 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: you're in the no camp to express that you don't 121 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: want to have children than if you're in the yes camp. 122 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 123 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Whose responsibility is? 124 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you do you worry that they might change 125 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: their minds further down the track? Yeah, the music you 126 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: never wanted them, but maybe they do. 127 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: Interesting because and you know what, like you know, majority 128 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: of people, thanks to the course shy, but majority of 129 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: people you you'd say, probably want children, probably probably are 130 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: keen on children. 131 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 4: So I think it's changed a generation to generation. 132 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's becoming more the norm to not 133 00:05:59,360 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: have kids. 134 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, by myself a bit of space there woulds we've 135 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: got done here on thirty one six five? Don what 136 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: do you reckon the kid chat? What's too soon? 137 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 5: No, we didn't have a chat until a year or 138 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: two into the relationship. Didn't It didn't matter to us, 139 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: and all was when we got together. I was twenty 140 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: four and she was thirty five, and wow, twenty five 141 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,119 Speaker 5: years later, we're still together, Mary Oh married? 142 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: No kids? 143 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: I know kids, you're done? 144 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 145 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: Did that? So so you and you're okay with that? 146 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: Don? 147 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: Like, did you sorry? Was there ever a stage where 148 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: you wanted kids? No? 149 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 5: Definitely not. We just we were in the relationship for 150 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 5: a couple of years and then she said, are you 151 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 5: gonna are you gonna want them? Down the track? I 152 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 5: said no, I don't think so. I don't really care 153 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 5: ifout have them or not. I said, do you care? 154 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 5: She said no, I don't really care if I have 155 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: them or not. I said, right, it's for long. If 156 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 5: it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't understanding. 157 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Don, that's lovely. I'm happy for you. You. 158 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: You absolutely lit Wood his eyes up over there. But unfortunately, 159 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: unfortunately that doesn't that's not often the case. Like, I 160 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: think it's remarkable. It's a lovely situation. Did you have 161 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: a conversation like God, if kids, Pampa, they pop up 162 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: a little bit like saying yeah, I don't know. Don 163 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: seems like the most relaxed person in the world. Maybe 164 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: we could all take a leaf out of his book. 165 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: But I don't think everybody's in that situation. I think 166 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: more often than not you'll find that one if one 167 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: person wants them and doesn't, another person doesn't. That's a 168 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: huge source of tension. 169 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: We got Stephie and our Steph. When do you think 170 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: you should have the chat about whether you want kids? 171 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 6: Boys? It's got to be done early, Like I did 172 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: it on the first date with my now husband. 173 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: So how did he take it? Steph? 174 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: You brought it up first date, and it's obviously gone 175 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 4: really well given you've brought it up, hasn't it. 176 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 177 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 6: Well, I mean I just think you've got to get 178 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 6: it out of the way. I've got friends that have 179 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 6: been burned before by bringing it up later. But you 180 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 6: know what, sure or date is lucky because that's when 181 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 6: we got pregnant. 182 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Oh why jeez, gee, so so super lucky. You had it, Steph. 183 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Bit of advice. So Woods has con been on four 184 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: dates with one particular woman where longer? Joline? 185 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 186 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh? Woods? Do you want to? I mean, like, 187 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: let's just pretend I'm Joline. It's fifth date. When when's 188 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: fifth date? 189 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: This night? 190 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: It's tonight? 191 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 192 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Huge? Okay, I'm Joline. Hit me. What are you gonna 193 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: go with? 194 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: Who's talking about? 195 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: Like? Just just just throw it at me, Just give me, 196 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: give me a kitchen. 197 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: I'll probably just go, Hey, I'm gonna start baking up 198 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: some eggplant. Do you want some eag plant on your thing? 199 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: Speaking of if you want things, John kids. 200 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't see what you're hearing. 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