1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Hello. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 2: My name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr the 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Order Kerney Whalbury and a waddery woman. And before we 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, acknowledging 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: as this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 2: and lasting impact for tomorrow. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money. 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: for millennials who want financial freedom. My name is Becksied 15 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: and with me is Victoria Divine. 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 4: Hello. V. 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: We have a very interesting one today, Scarcity, mindset and investing. 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 4: Oh, it's a spicy topic. I tell, pray, tell oh 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 4: that sentence gives me the it does it give you 20 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: the hebes? It gives me the he begbis. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I'll take it out of rrotation. 22 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: Scarcity mindset is a spicy one today and it's funny 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: because I asked our producer and a Lisa. I was like, Hey, 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: can you just get some you know, more fun stats 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: and facts and stuff about this before we record? And 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: she's like, Victoria, I've googled this, like there's not a 27 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: link here, And I was like, Babe, there's a massive 28 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: link here. Scarcity mindset is often the reason people don't invest, 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 4: and we need to talk about it. So hopefully this 30 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: is maybe a good introduction to why scarcity mindset might 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: be holding you back a little bit. But Beck, have 32 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 4: you ever found yourself in a position where you're like 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: worried that if someone gets something you want then you 34 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: might not have it too, Yeah, like a pay rise 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: or like a promotional, like maybe even just like something random. 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: It is hard to admit, but I feel like if 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: someone in my circle or someone around me has the 38 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: opportunity to get something or just get something that I 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: kind of want, I feel like, what are the chances 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: of us both receiving that? 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Yeah? 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm not surprised to hear that because I 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 4: know a little bit about your money story and I 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: feel like you lean a little bit more towards scarcity 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: rather than abundance, whereas abundance might be like, oh my god, 46 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: if my friend can achieve that and smash that out 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 4: of the park, this absolutely I can do that. Just 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: paved the way. What a great time, Like their candle 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: can light mine and we can both shine brighter. Is 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: more abundance mindset, where a scarcity is kind of like, oh, 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: if they're doing it, maybe I can't do it. And 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: I think that that can actually get in the way. 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 4: And I think a lot of people in our community 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: have this mindset. And a couple of weeks ago, we 55 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: actually talked about what a lot of money looked like 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: and I remember how you said, oh, I think it 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: was like thirty bucks. Yeah, whereas I said, if you 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: have five dollars or even one cent. Let's be honest nowadays, 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: but if you have five dollars, that's actually enough to 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 4: get started investing. These days and today, we are going 61 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 4: to be diving more into that and really focusing on 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: a scarcity and abundance mindset and how that impacts your 63 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: investment journey. And I think it's really really important and 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: I promise like we'll get to the point, but we're 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: going to be looking at the differences between scarcity and 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: abundance mindsets, and then after the break, I'm going to 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: teach you how to shift from the negative to the 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 4: positive and then how this actually affects your attitude towards investing, 69 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 4: because I promise it does. Often with scarcity mindset, you 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: just you don't want to put your money out there 71 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: like we've got them it might run out, like what 72 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: if I need that money later, Whereas a more abundant 73 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: mindset just TLD or if you don't want to listen 74 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: to the whole app This is basically it's summary, but 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: abundance mindset's more about like, oh, if I put my 76 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: money out there, more will come and I can create more. 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 4: And I think there's definitely negative connotations to scarcity mindset 78 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: that mean that we actually limit ourselves and we really 79 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: shouldn't be doing that, right, Okay, it's actually very company 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: to know that it is something that can be changed. 81 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: Then it could be changed, But to change something you 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: have to be able to identify it and come to 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: terms with what the reality of the circumstances are to 84 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: then move forward. But if we can't do that, often 85 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: we just stay stagnant and we don't change at all. 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: YEP. So I guess we'll start with going into the 87 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: nitty gritty details. What is scarcity mindset? 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 4: So scarcity mindset is basically the belief that life is 89 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 4: like a limited pie, so there's like only so much 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 4: of it to go around, and with only so much 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 4: money and so much success and good fortunes that if 92 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: you perceive somebody has a big piece of the pie, 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: you might think that it actually leaves less for you. 94 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: And this is what really limits what you think is 95 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: possible in your life. Okay, okay, I think I'm getting 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: a picture now and absolutely could not relate anymore. You know, 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 4: like Banjo's the Bakery and how they do that little 98 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: blueberry tart pie thing, That's what I thought of. Oh okay, 99 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: I thought they're unlimited. They make new ones every single day. 100 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: Oh, they're unlimited. They're not going to run out. You're 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: going to get a blueberry pie tomorrow. Can you break 102 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: this down a little bit more into specifics for us? 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: So basically, from my perspective, it is really important to 104 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 4: understand that scarcity mindset is basically pessimistic or negative thinking. 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 4: I've written a list back and basically a person with 106 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 4: a scarcity mindset frames things in you know the following 107 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 4: types of ways. So the first thing I've written down 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: is they consider the limitations of a situation by focusing 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: on the negatives. Second we've got they lead with more 110 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 4: of a victim mentality and blame things that are outside 111 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: their control, which adds to stress, worry, and in action. 112 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: They spend their mental energy on what's lacking in life 113 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: or not working instead of the positive. They might refuse 114 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: to collaborate or share with other people. They often and 115 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: this is a more negative list, but I think it's 116 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 4: important to read it out. And I know I said before, Beck, 117 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: I think you lean more towards this. I don't think 118 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 4: that you're super negative, but I do see asp of 119 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 4: scarcity mindset in the way that you approach money. And 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: that's why I've pointed it out because I don't want 121 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: people to think, oh, this big negative list is all 122 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: me that's awful and the world. It's not. You could 123 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: have a lot of scarcity mindset, or you could have 124 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 4: like a little teeny tiny bit of it that might 125 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: be that one thing that's holding you back. So it's 126 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: not a good or a bad thing. It's just something 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: that we can identify about ourselves to put ourselves in 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 4: a better position. 129 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Ten out of ten? 130 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: Can I recommend The next one is they think small 131 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 4: and they often avoid risk. They often find it hard 132 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: to trust others and they default straight to suspicion. They 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 4: act as a taker and always expect more from others, 134 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: and they establish their sense of self worth by comparing 135 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: themselves to others, which we don't like doing in the 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: Sheese on the Money community. We're all in different journeys 137 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: and we don't compare our circumstances to that of others, 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 4: do we. 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: Bet No, that's exactly right. There's always someone out there 140 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: richer and poorer. 141 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, But like also that Deed Devontees quote. I don't 142 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: know if you know where I'm going with this, but 143 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: like you could be the ripest, juiciest peach in the 144 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: entire world, but there are going to be people who 145 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: just don't like eat peaches. And I think that's fine, 146 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: very powerful. It's a good quote, right, very good quote. 147 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: It's like raist, juiciest. I'm like, yeah, that quote is good, 148 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: but it's true, Like you could be the best of 149 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: the best of everything, and people like, yeah, just don't 150 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: like peaches. So thanks, though, You're like. 151 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: But it's the best peach. 152 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, have you seen this? It is literally perfect? 153 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: And they go, yeah, still don't like peaches? Thanks, So babe, 154 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: can't relate, can't relate. There is truly nothing better I 155 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: can peach in summer, but moving on. 156 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: Can relate to being the ripest and juiciest and perfect 157 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: oh good, But I can't relate to being a peek 158 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: liking peaches, No neither, now, V Why do people develop 159 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: this mindset and how can it control us and impact 160 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: us long term? 161 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: That's a very good question when I asked you to 162 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: ask me, so that makes sense that he's come up 163 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: at about now. But scarcity mindset or scarcity mentality isn't 164 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: actually a personality trait. It's a learned behavior. It's a 165 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: learned outcome from the way that you grew up. Scarcity 166 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 4: mindset isn't something that you do on purpose, like people 167 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: just don't do it on purpose. And I've spoken about 168 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: this before on the podcast, and it's often around identifying 169 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: it in other people and maybe not actually viewing it 170 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: with the kindness that you need to. So when it 171 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: comes to people's money stories, and the example that I'll 172 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: go back to is brunch, right, So Beck, let's say 173 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: you go out for brunch with a girlfriend and you 174 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: just go, oh my god, I'm going out for brunch 175 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: with this friend. I love it far out just a 176 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: bit of a stinge. Whenever we go to brunch, she 177 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 4: literally eats before we go. And she's a doctor now 178 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: she can afford it. Like that pisces me off. Because 179 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: she's a doctor, she can afford brunch, and every time 180 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: we go, I eat in front of her. She just 181 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: saw it as a coffee. Sometimes she gets a croissant, 182 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: but like she never gets the full you know, big 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: Sunday breakfast. Yeah, and you're looking at that from your 184 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: perspective and maybe not considering her money story. Yeah, she 185 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 4: might be a doctor that has a really good income now, 186 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 4: and you're right, she absolutely could probably afford brunch if 187 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: it was in line with her values. But what you're 188 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: not considering is maybe she grew up her money was super, 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: super scarce, Like talking about grocery items gave her anxiety 190 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: as a kid because she always wanted the roll ups, 191 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: but mom and dad always said, no, it can't afford it. 192 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 4: We are absolutely not getting those. It's not an option. 193 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 4: So money has always been something that makes her really anxious, 194 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 4: so going out to brunch, she can only justify getting 195 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 4: her coffee because it's actually part of her money story 196 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 4: that she's always been told No, we don't do that, 197 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: No we don't eat out, No we don't do this. 198 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 4: And your friend loves you so much that she wants 199 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: to go out for coffee with you. She really wants 200 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: to go out for brunch. She accepted your invitation with 201 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: her whole heart because she was so excited to see you. 202 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: But then on the flip side, you're judging the way 203 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: she spends her money because you have no idea about 204 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: her money story because it's money, your flipping business. No, 205 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 4: but that scarcity mindset in that circumstance is absolutely fine 206 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: because you know she's living within her value. And to 207 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: be honest, kudos to her for being able to say 208 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: knowing that circumstance, because I know when I was at Union, 209 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 4: didn't have heaps cash and someone invited me out for brunch, 210 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'll get something too, even 211 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 4: if I didn't want to spend the money. So like, 212 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: that is quite a strong willed thing to do, mad respect, 213 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: But that scarcity mindset might limit her in a number 214 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: of other areas of her life. So for example, we 215 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 4: just you know, this is very stereotypical, but I think 216 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: it drives home the point she's a doctor. Now we're 217 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: assuming she's making good money, but she might save every 218 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 4: single dollar that she has. She might not have bought 219 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: a home yet, even if it's something that she's been 220 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 4: really working towards and really wants to do, and that's 221 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: her dream, because parting with that money gives her mad anxiety, 222 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 4: she just can't do it. Maybe she really wants to 223 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: invest for her future because she wants to be a 224 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: single lady for life, got no interest in a partner. 225 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 4: But her income isn't enough to create the life she wants, 226 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: so she needs to invest, but she just can't because 227 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: she doesn't want to put her money into an investment 228 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: account because for her, that means that she feels like 229 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: she loses a bit of sense of control. Compare that 230 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: to somebody who grew up in a situation where money 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 4: wasn't scarce, It wasn't something that you know, triggered anxiety. 232 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: Was kind of flippant, right, like mom and dad gave 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 4: you some money, or your guardians made sure that you 234 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 4: always cared for money wasn't ever an issue. And you're 235 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 4: both at school, you're both learning the same stuff, you're 236 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: both you know, out brunch, and you might both be 237 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: talking about she's on the money, and you might both say, yeah, 238 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 4: I really want to invest. But if you never grew 239 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: up with a scarcity mindset, you are far more likely 240 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: to be like, yeah, fire out, why haven't I done that? 241 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: I might just chuck fifty bucks in Charesi's and actually 242 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: just start my journey today. What am I waiting for? 243 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: This is so good? Whereas the person who has the 244 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: scarcity mindset is more likely to mena about that. They 245 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: might get a bit of what you've been calling it 246 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: analysis paralysis, looking at every single platform to make sure 247 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 4: that they're in one thousand percent control because they're just 248 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: not sure what step to take next, and then they 249 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: just don't want to do it yet because fifty bucks 250 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: is actually a lot of money, and what if I 251 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: need that soon? And what if I actually invest that 252 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: and it doesn't go so well? And I'm really anxious 253 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: because scarcity mindset is ruling my life, and that negative 254 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: money story growing up is now impacting the way that 255 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 4: I'm interacting with money today, and it's actually going to 256 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: limit the outcomes we can create. That's often why we 257 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: talk about cycles of debt and cycles of poverty continuing 258 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 4: and replicating themselves, because even if we give people education, 259 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: sometimes they don't want to take that next step. Does 260 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: that make sense? 261 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes so much sense. And I'm starting to 262 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: realize that I am more of a scarcity mindset kind 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: of person. 264 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: And it's not bad. It's good to know where you 265 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: stand because it's something that we can work through to 266 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: get to the outcome. We know that not everybody starts 267 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 4: at the exact same start line. If you have a 268 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: bit of a scarcity mindset, you might be even further 269 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: behind the start line. And just to get to the 270 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: start line is a hustle in itself. And I think 271 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: that so many people think that the answer is just 272 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: financial literacy. And here's another podcast on in and here's 273 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: how to do it. And you know what, I wrote 274 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: this book of the ab CD and EF step for 275 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: you to actually invest like I have actually given you guys, 276 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: step by step instructions on how to invest. Here's how 277 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: to review a platform, He's how to integrate it into 278 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: your budget. Here's how it looks over time. This is 279 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: what compound interest does. You actually have that knowledge. But 280 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 4: maybe that next step that you're not taking is due 281 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 4: to scarcity mindset. And if we don't address that, you're 282 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: not going to take that step because that step makes 283 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 4: you feel sick. That step gives you anxiety. And the 284 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: second we have anxiety about something, warning lights go off 285 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: and we go this must not be the right thing 286 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 4: to do. I know everyone's saying it's good, but I 287 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: feel disgusting about this. I feel anxious. I feel really unsure. 288 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 4: Maybe I shouldn't be doing this. You're right, Maybe I'll 289 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 4: just put it to the side and look at it 290 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: next year. 291 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at it next year. 292 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: You're anxious again. Yeah, but we're not addressing the underlying 293 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 4: idea of where this mindset or where this approach has 294 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: come from. Right, And I think that to do that 295 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: is really important. 296 00:13:59,160 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 297 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, This hypothetical story about my doctor friend really has feeling. 298 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I think that I'm attached to this person. I don't 299 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: know who this person is. What should we name it? 300 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. Emily is a good name, but it's caller. No, okay, 301 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: we call it Emily. We'll call it Emily, Emily, I'm here. 302 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: Emily sounds like a doctor. Emily sounds like a doctor. 303 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: It's a very doctorish name, you reckon. I want Emily 304 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: to learn how to be more of an abundance mindset 305 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: sort of person. So tell me what is abundance mindset. 306 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm guessing this is like optimistic thinking. 307 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely it is. And I don't want to say 308 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: being more positive because that sucks, Like I hate when 309 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: people like, just be more positive about you, like I'm 310 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 4: actually I'm going to hear you, because that's not just 311 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: an option. But people who look at the world from 312 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 4: an abundance mindset know that there are more than enough 313 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: opportunities to go around for everybody out there, and that 314 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: one person's success does not come at the detriment of 315 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: somebody else's. And often you see this at school where 316 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: you know young kids like I remember because I had 317 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 4: a bit of a scarcity mindset, and I still do 318 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 4: and I still work towards being more abundance mindset. And 319 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: that's why I talk about it so often, because I 320 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: need to convince myself regularly that this is where I 321 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: want to be, not where I actually am. But I 322 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: remember being like, oh my friend's got an a on 323 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: that assignment, and I got to be yeah, I'm never 324 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: gonna get there, Like, you know, she's got all of 325 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: this succept. It had nothing to do with that. I 326 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 4: was comparing myself to somebody else for what outcome to 327 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: just feel shit about myself. Yeah, great idea of Victoria. 328 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: That's really good. But essentially, instead of hurrying through their decisions, 329 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: they make really deliberate, careful choices that are aligned with 330 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: their values and the life that they want to create. 331 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: And if there's enough for everybody, then there's no need 332 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: to compare. There's no need to compete because your success 333 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: not at the detriment of mine, and vice versa. It's 334 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: kind of like this quote that I am obsessed with 335 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: a rising tide lifts all ships, and I think like 336 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: that she's on the money with a rising tide all 337 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: the ships. That's you guys, Like, the more we can create, 338 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 4: the more content that is out there, the more our 339 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 4: tide rises, the more you guys rise, and it's not 340 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 4: the detriment of somebody else. Yeah, there might be a 341 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 4: new little boat that's just come to the marina and 342 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: they've never actually been on the ocean before. Like they're 343 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: not on the tide. They don't know what they're up to. 344 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: But that's okay. 345 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: You can come along. We've got all this content that 346 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: you can consume and get up to speed with everybody else. 347 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: But we're rising and we're doing it together, and I 348 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: think that that's the most important thing there, Like you 349 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: do not have to push someone down for you to 350 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 4: rise up. And I think that that's where you know, 351 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 4: when I did that recap of like things that are 352 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 4: in and out for twenty twenty three, and I say 353 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: girl boss culture, like that to me was out because 354 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: that often aligns to I do well and everybody else 355 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: doesn't do well, and I will step on people to 356 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: get where I need to go, and that makes me sick. 357 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: We don't do that, no, but you can literally get 358 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: where you want to go without snatching a piece of 359 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: pie from somebody else. 360 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: Wow, it's actually very good to know. Yeah, it's a 361 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: fantastic analogy as well, rising with the tides for everyone. 362 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: That's really cute. I really like that. So what are 363 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: some personality traits that are associated with abundance mindset? 364 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 4: So someone with an abundance mindset? Firstly, I've written down 365 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: a list again, so strip yourselves in So firstly, they 366 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 4: consider the opportunities in a situation by focusing on the 367 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: areas of growth and improvement. They lead with control by 368 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: taking responsibility, which inspires them to act with confidence and clarity. 369 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: They spend their mental energy on new possibilities by being 370 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 4: flexible and adaptable to their circumstances, so they can see 371 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: opportunities where some people don't see any. They think about 372 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 4: the challenges and growth ahead, and that actually makes them 373 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 4: feel really empowered and engaged. Their positive attitude inspires and 374 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: energizes others to perform well. They collaborate well with others 375 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 4: by sharing knowledge and success, which is kind of like 376 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: the rising tide lifts aul ships. It's kind of like 377 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 4: do you remember at school when people be like, oh, 378 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: can I see your notes? Like literary? 379 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: Is that kid? 380 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, But that's abundance mindset. If that person says yeah, 381 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: no worries because from my perspective, and I was that 382 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: person that I would literally and at UNI, I actually 383 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: made money from doing this. I used to sell copies 384 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 4: of my notes that I took in lectures because lots 385 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: of people wouldn't go and I was just super free 386 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 4: and I would go to every single lecture and I 387 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: would actually get mad anxiety if I didn't go. So 388 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 4: I took these beautiful handwritten notes, and after the lecture, 389 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 4: I would go to the library and scanning was free. 390 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: Printing wasn't. Scanning was free, and I'd scan it and 391 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: put it in my emails and people would pay me 392 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: like ten bucks per sheet of notes. 393 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 394 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 4: Right, But I was under the assumption and this is 395 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: maybe negative. I don't know who knows where we're going 396 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 4: with this, but I was like, I can give you 397 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: my notes, I can literally hand it to you on 398 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: a silver platter, But if you don't read them, and 399 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: you don't put the work in the time and the 400 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: energy and the effort in that I have, you're definitely 401 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 4: not going to be successful, even if you've paid for 402 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 4: this copy of notes. 403 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Right, so you were you didn't feel threatened that if 404 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: they will be I. 405 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: Will give you absolutely everything you need to be successful, 406 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, that success is 407 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: up to you and whether you're going to put the 408 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: energy in, because like, if I hand you these beautiful 409 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 4: notes that I wrote, which by the way, because I 410 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: knew I was selling them, I like fully ruled the 411 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 4: page with like the red line you know what I'm 412 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: talking about stunning. Also would highlight things and i'd scan 413 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 4: it in color because obviously right business now exactly, I'm 414 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: a business lady, have been from the beginning. But I 415 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 4: was literally like, well, what's the use in you know, 416 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 4: hiding my notes and being like, oh my god, no, 417 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: if you didn't take notes in that lecture, baby, you 418 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 4: already didn't go to the lecture, You're already behind. You're 419 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: already going to have to do the work. And if 420 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 4: you just think that having the notes and paying for 421 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: them is going to put your head, it's not. 422 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was already they're available for them. 423 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, go for it. But anyway, so I think 424 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 4: that that's where my abundance mindset started. I feel like 425 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 4: I mixed between the two. Like some things I'm a 426 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: bit scarce to be mindset about, some things I'm a 427 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 4: bit abundance mindset about. So it's not one silo or 428 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: the other. And I think that's important to point out. 429 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: So you're not just an abundant person or you're not 430 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 4: just as scared city person. You could be abundant in 431 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: every other aspect of your life, like I was when 432 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 4: it came to notes, but when it came to money, 433 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: I was really scarce. Does that make sense? So it 434 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 4: could be a relationship as well, Like you could have 435 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 4: abundance in every other aspect of your life but have 436 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: some type of relationship trauma. Therefore, you've got, you know, 437 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: a scarcity mindset when it comes to creating personal relationships. 438 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: So it's not just money, it's not just one aspect 439 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: of your life. It can kind of cut and pacet 440 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 4: different areas around. Does that make sense, Yeah, that does 441 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: make sense. So the last thing before you ask another 442 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 4: question I do apologize is people with an abundant mindset 443 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: they often think big and like to embrace risk, which 444 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 4: I think is important because risk is a really big 445 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: part of investing. Not only do you have to understand risk, 446 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: but you have to be willing to take some level 447 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 4: of risk to get some level of return. And obviously 448 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: there's this risk return trade off. The more risk you take, 449 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: the more likely return you could anticipate. And that's why 450 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 4: if you've got like a term deposit, there's less risk involved, 451 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: and that's why the percentage rate that you're going to 452 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: get back is less, whereas if you invest in Australian 453 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 4: shares that's a bit more risky, and then international shares 454 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: that's a bit more risky. Again because the more risk 455 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: you take, the more likely return you get. But someone 456 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 4: who has abundance mindset fully comprehends that, whereas somebody who 457 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: has more of a scarcity mindset sees that risk return 458 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: trade off and goes, ah, heck, no, any level of 459 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 4: risk is giving me anxiety. Any level of risk is unacceptable. 460 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: And that's often because they don't fully comprehend what that 461 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: risk means. They go, oh, I could lose all my money. 462 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: It's like when you talk to people about the share market, 463 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: and it's so interesting because obviously I worked as a 464 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: financial advisor for years, and I would talk to people 465 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: and be like, yeah, like I work with my clients 466 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: and you know, I create share portfolios and I manage 467 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 4: their money. And they're like, what you just invested? What 468 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 4: if you lost all your clients' money? And I'm like, oh, well, 469 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: you know, the way I invest is actually for the 470 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 4: long term. And if you look at the share market 471 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: over a thirty year period of time, like losing money 472 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: is actually you know, that hasn't happened over that frame 473 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 4: of time. And you know, the clients I work with, 474 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 4: you know, understand that we don't actually invest for a 475 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: short period of time, and we understand the economics of 476 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 4: the market. And if the market goes down, like I 477 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: have educated my clients in a way where they know, 478 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: if the market's down shares are on sale, like maybe 479 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: we could pick up some more, it's not time to sell. 480 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: Whereas people who have more of a scarcity mindset might 481 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 4: convince themselves to invest and go, oh, this is great, 482 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 4: no worries, Like I've taken the next step. I'm so 483 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: proud of myself. And then the market shifts itself back 484 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: and they shit themselves and go, oh my god, my 485 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: share portfolio is down. Oh, I better sell it all 486 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: because I don't want to be left with nothing. And 487 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 4: what they don't realize is, you know, they might have 488 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 4: gone and bought ten shares, and those ten shares might 489 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 4: have been worth a dollar each at the time of purchase, 490 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 4: so it was worth ten dollars in total. Their shareport 491 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 4: volume might now be valued at five dollars, but they 492 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 4: still have those ten shares. And if they rode the 493 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 4: roller coaster and waited and didn't buy into this mentality 494 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: of fear and anxiety that would ride the roller coaster 495 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: back up. Those ten shares might be worth ten dollars again, 496 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: and then it might be worth fifteen dollars. In thirty 497 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 4: years from now, it's probably worth twenty or thirty dollars. However, 498 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: if you sold your ten shares for five dollars when 499 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: the market's down and you wait for the market to 500 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: re recover, you then have to spend double what you 501 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: got your shares out for to buy back ten shares 502 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 4: at ten dollars again, and it puts you in a 503 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: position where you're actually shooting yourself in the foot. And 504 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 4: we saw it a lot over the last two years 505 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: because obviously COVID has thrown us in an absolute spin 506 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 4: when it comes to the market in general. We saw 507 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 4: a lot of people posting our community or message me. 508 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: But over the last two or three years, while COVID 509 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: has been happening, two micro investing platforms that are really 510 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: popular in our community Arrays and Spaceship, and people would 511 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 4: get on them with not enough education about the market 512 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 4: because they were easily accessible, and then the market would 513 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 4: drop and they be like, oh, my Spaceship's doing so 514 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: badly so I just so all out and I'm out, 515 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: it's so silly, like investing is not worth it, Like 516 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 4: I can't believe that these people talk positively about it. 517 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 4: I lost thirty bucks, and you would ask a follow 518 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: up question and be like, oh, how long were you 519 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 4: invested for? Oh, six months? And you'd be like yeah, 520 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: Like you're meant to invest over the long period. You're 521 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: meant to invest in things that you understand. And I 522 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: think one of the things that is really important when 523 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: it comes to investing is one understand the long term 524 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 4: scarcity mindset, understanding whether that's going to shoot you in 525 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: the foot when something does happen, but also understanding what 526 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 4: you're investing in. And often if you're choosing just a 527 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 4: microinvesting platform, you just accept the terms and conditions that 528 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: they have and the portfolio that they've put together without 529 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 4: comprehending it, Whereas often I find that people who go 530 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 4: to different platforms, like they might go to Chares's and 531 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: they've picked a specific ETF because it aligns with their values, 532 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 4: and they've picked a few direct shares that align with 533 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: their values, They're less likely to sell out of that 534 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 4: because they feel really committed to that cause whether the 535 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: market is up or down. Whereas if you don't don't 536 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 4: fully comprehend what is going on in a portfolio and 537 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: just download it because you saw somebody else was using it, 538 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 4: that's where you're more likely to find yourself in a 539 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: bit of a pickle or feeling like you just want 540 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: to get out because you feel like you've lost your money. 541 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? 542 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely makes sense. Scare dear cats really bad? But no, okay, 543 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: it's quite clear that I need to absorb all this 544 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: break because it was a terrible joke. I needed to 545 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: have a nap, have a nap, have a kit cat? 546 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 4: Is that that? That's not even Let's have a break. 547 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 4: I am a kick cat. 548 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: So happy that you made a bad joke right after 549 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: my bad joke. 550 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: That was a good joke. 551 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: I don't know, No, that's true. Don't find me all right, 552 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a break. We'll be back soon. 553 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: This's just delicious. 554 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, feet, I'm so glad we literally had 555 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: a break and had a kit cat. We did? I 556 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: treat you right, You're so good to me. 557 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: I should have known the tagline because the tagline it's 558 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 4: literally on the packet. I had what did I say, 559 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: have a nap, have a kickcap. 560 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: It's close enough. 561 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 4: It's actually better. I don't want to have a break. 562 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: I want to have a nap. 563 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: A nap exactly right. Who's benefiting from a break? No, 564 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: anybody have a nap goes straight break. 565 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 4: A break reminds me of those fifteen minute breaks I 566 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: got when I was in retail, and I wasn't ever 567 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 4: sure what to do with them, because it's not long 568 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: enough to pop out and get lunch, because by the 569 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 4: time you got back your break was over. But it 570 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: also was too long to just like stand out the 571 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: back and twiddle your thumbs. You know, absolutely, when you 572 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 4: say break, I'm like, I don't want to break the 573 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 4: worst fifteen minutes unpaid too. You're just going to make 574 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: me stand out the back of fifteen minutes. Can't I 575 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: add my fifteen minutes to my half an hour lunch 576 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: break and then have a good day. No, they never 577 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: let me do that anyway. 578 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: Moving on, so very clever though. Now being the break, 579 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I was thinking about how I'd like to adopt an 580 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: abundance mindset. 581 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: It's good to know that it is possible. Absolutely, it's possible. 582 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: We can do anything we set our minds too. 583 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: B Oh my god, that's amazing. Well, let's have a 584 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: think about it, just in the investment world. How can 585 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: we change our scarcity mindset to more of an abundance mindset. 586 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 4: I think that's actually a really important delineation because, as 587 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 4: I said before, scarcity mindset could actually exist in any 588 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: facet of your life. It could be your entire life, 589 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: it could just be a certain area. But when it 590 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 4: comes to investment mindset, I think that's really really important 591 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 4: to talk about because it limits what we can create 592 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: in the future and the financial freedom that you actually deserve. Like, 593 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: if you're not creating financial freedom or working towards it 594 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: and you really want to be, you're going to carry 595 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: a lot of guilt later down the road when you're like, 596 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,959 Speaker 4: oh my god, I wish I was doing this earlier, 597 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: or you know, I speak to a lot of people 598 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: in their sixties who are about to retire because we've 599 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 4: just discovered our podcast. They're like, I wish I'd known 600 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: this when I was younger. I wish I'd pulled my 601 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: finger out, or I wish I'd put more in my 602 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: super And I just feel like that's not a position 603 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: I want anyone in our community to be in And 604 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 4: as much as I say, look, you are where you are, 605 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 4: life is a journey. And I know that if I 606 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 4: had this education when I was twenty one and got 607 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 4: into personal debt, I wouldn't have listened to it. I 608 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: would have been like, that's call by, I'm living my 609 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: best life. Like my mindset was so different. But if 610 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: you're open to change and you want to create change, 611 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 4: it is entirely possible. You've just got to have the 612 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 4: information at the right period of time to facilitate that. 613 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 4: And sometimes just having the information isn't enough. You've actually 614 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 4: got to want to change. So first I want to 615 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 4: talk about I guess how to snap out of that 616 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: scarcity mindset and the psychology of what's called reframing. So 617 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: it's taking one situation and changing that view from a 618 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: negative to a positive. And I think that that can 619 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: actually be really, really helpful. So instead of saying something like, 620 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, like I can't believe I have to 621 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: get up in the morning and go to work. That's 622 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: the worst you might change it too, Oh in the morning, 623 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 4: I get to go to work. It doesn't always have 624 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: to be the super sickly sweet amount of positivity. Like 625 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 4: that's actually, from my perspective, unobtainable. I'm not always super 626 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 4: sickly sweet, and I don't actually want that in my 627 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 4: life because this would be weird. Let's be honest. If 628 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: I was super positive all the time and I said, oh, 629 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 4: instead of I have to go to work in the morning, 630 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, I love going to work. 631 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna believe that. No one reframing it to 632 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 4: a take of gratitude to well, I get to go 633 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: to work. I mean, I'm not super super pumped, but 634 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: I get to do that, and that's a privilege in itself. 635 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 4: I think reframes it to a positive mindset that's not 636 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 4: that super sickly sweet, Like do you know what I mean? 637 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: Because I feel like some people online are like, reframe 638 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 4: it to the positive, and you're like, no, I'm not 639 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 4: gonna do that. 640 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: It's almost like toxic positivity. Would you agree? 641 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: I mean, literally, it is toxic positivity. But the next 642 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 4: thing I would do is really focus on what you 643 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 4: do have. So scarcity often scares people from making career 644 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: changes or taking risk because they think there aren't enough opportunities. 645 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: Like bet got a new job, therefore I won't get 646 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 4: one because like there's only so many that go around. 647 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: It's now to to think about the positives that you 648 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,239 Speaker 4: do have to let you move forward. The next thing 649 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to say controversial, but audit the people around 650 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: you and surround yourself with positive people. The people around 651 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: you will really influence you. That quote of you are 652 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: the some of the five closest people to you, I 653 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: genuinely believe, and spending time with positive minded people will 654 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 4: often have you soon thinking in that same way. This 655 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: one's a bit sappy, and I know we said no 656 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: toxic positivity, but practice gratitude. You don't have to be 657 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 4: overly sickly sweet about gratitude, which I feel like every 658 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 4: influencer and their dog is carping on about, especially because 659 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 4: it's new. You knew me, Like, let's write in our 660 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 4: gratitude journals. I get it, and I'm not making fun 661 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: of that. I mean, I am making fun of that, 662 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: but like, I'm not making fun of that if it 663 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: works for you, but I also know that it wouldn't 664 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: work for me. But gratitude has been shown to positively 665 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: improve mental health and well being. So if you want 666 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: to create a gratitude or just have a little piece 667 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: of paper beside your bed. I bought a gratitude journal 668 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 4: actually at Kiki k And instead of it being like 669 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: heaps of pages of empty paper, it's like five little 670 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: dot points each day and it starts the sentence for you, 671 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 4: which I find really helpful because I'm not that good 672 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: at journaling without prompts. Yeah, so that was really helpful. 673 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: And if you create a journal and write down five 674 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: things that you're grateful for every day, it can reframe 675 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 4: your life. Literally. The other thing I want to say 676 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: this is like share them with your partner, share them 677 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 4: with a friend, call your mum, call somebody that you 678 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: care about, and share them and create that accountability. Because Beck, 679 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: if you and I live together, which would be elite 680 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: by the way, because I'm a really big cook and 681 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 4: you bring the vibes like that would be really good. 682 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: But if you take those five things and every single 683 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 4: day I have an accountability that all right? Every day 684 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 4: Beck and I tell each other our five things, do 685 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: you know what you start doing? You start looking for more? 686 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah things. So if I know or I'm going home 687 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: tonight and I'm going to tell Beck my five things 688 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 4: and you know what can actually help taking a photo 689 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 4: of it, and I know that's really lame. It could 690 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: be a picture of a kickat on a desk, and 691 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 4: that could be one of your positive things. And that 692 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 4: five things, I promise will turn into ten because you're 693 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: consistently looking for more positive things to share. So if 694 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: I know or I have to take five positive things 695 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 4: home to tell beck about tonight, I'm just looking for 696 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: positive things all day. And the more you start looking 697 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 4: for things, the more they start appearing. And this goes 698 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 4: back to that manifestation conversation we're having the other day 699 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 4: where I said, I don't particularly believe in manifestation because 700 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 4: it's all about what you're looking for and those things 701 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: showing up. And I use the example of the bright 702 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: yellow Honda Jazz, like if you think about that as 703 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: a car, I can't remember seeing one, but if I 704 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 4: start telling you to look for one, you're going to 705 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: see more of them, right, Yes, confirmation by exactly. And 706 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: so the more you're looking for positive things and the 707 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: more you have some level of accountability to deliver five 708 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: or it could be one, like let's just start with one. 709 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: I need to share the most positive thing that happened 710 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: today with Beck when I get home instead of going, oh, Beck, 711 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 4: how's your day? Oh yeah, Oh my gosh, it was 712 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 4: the most stressful thing. Stop talking about that. What was 713 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 4: the best thing about your day? 714 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: Back? 715 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: And you're like, oh, okay, well Victorias knuckout of this 716 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 4: recording studio and stole a kick cat for me and 717 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 4: brought it back. That was pretty late. 718 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: That is going into my gratitude Jennal. 719 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, perfect. But it doesn't need to be these 720 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 4: big overarching things, and it could be a really personal 721 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 4: gratitude where you go, you know, I'm really grateful for 722 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: my KitKat. No one else would understand that because it'd 723 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 4: be like, what the heck kickat is the worst chocolate ever? 724 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Like, I really personal 725 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: and I think that by practicing gratitude it can actually 726 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: change your life. And I'm going to stop harping on 727 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 4: about it because it's gonna be come some kind of 728 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: self help podcast. It absolutely shouldn't be. The Next thing 729 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: I want to talk about is recognizing the possibilities. Again, 730 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: this feels like a little self help kind of book. 731 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 4: I'm not mad about it. Watch out, Brene Brown, We're 732 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 4: coming for you. I'm learning a lot today. This is great, 733 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 4: but when you recognize the possibilities, it's important to focus 734 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 4: on one thing that can train your brain to let 735 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 4: other things go unnoticed. So rewire your mind to look 736 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 4: for possibilities and solutions instead of letting problems get you down, 737 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 4: kind of like the yellow Honda Jazz. If you're looking 738 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 4: for it, I promise more of it appears. It is crazy. 739 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 4: The same thing happens with opportunities. So if you have 740 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: your head in the sound, you're like, oh, jobs never 741 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: come up, babe, You're probably not looking for them, Like 742 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 4: you don't have your eyes open, you're not looking for them. 743 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: But if you start looking for them, I promise they 744 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 4: appear in abundance. It is crazy. And then the last 745 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 4: thing I'm going to say here is the tunnel vision 746 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 4: caused by scarcity mindset actually means other important things end 747 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 4: up falling by the wayside. So start escaping that little 748 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: tunnel you've created by organizing your time or automating some 749 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 4: tasks that might actually help you build an abundant future. 750 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 4: So that might be actually setting up an auto invest program. 751 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 4: So you might have decided to invest, but instead of 752 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 4: having to do that each and every single month. You 753 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 4: might just set up a direct debit on your app 754 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: and go all right, well I'm going to do this. 755 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna set and forget. This makes sense. This 756 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 4: actually puts me in the best possible position. Does that 757 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 4: make sense? 758 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that completely makes sense. I'm really liking these. I 759 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to go away and practice gratitude 760 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: and try to not look I am generally a pessimist. 761 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: I know it may not seem like it. You don't. 762 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: You must be working hard on that. 763 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be working hard, especially after this manifest. 764 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 4: Your Honda Jazz. Absolutely, that's all I've ever wanted is Ayazz, honestly, 765 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 4: I promise. Do you know how funny it is though, 766 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 4: because we mentioned that a couple of weeks ago on 767 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 4: a pod episode. The amount of messages please keep sending 768 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 4: them to me though, The amount of messages I've got 769 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 4: of people sending photos of Honda Jazz is to me 770 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: that are yellow. I'm like, thanks, babe. They're like, oh my. 771 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 5: God, it was true. 772 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: I saw the story today. 773 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, no, no, I want I want all 774 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: your Honda Jazz content. You know what I'm going to 775 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: start posting all my story. So spam me with your 776 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 4: Honda Jazz as I'm here for. If you a yellow 777 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: Honda Jazz, let's be friends. 778 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: Even better, even better. 779 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 4: You are manifestation quing. You are the yellow Honda Jazz 780 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 4: that is powerful. V. Before you touched on reframing mindset, 781 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 4: I'm wondering if we could go a little bit deeper 782 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 4: with that. Yeah, okay, So reframing is actually a super 783 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 4: powerful tool that I think I learned about in the 784 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 4: first year of psychology, and it's really about reframing a circumstance. 785 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 4: And the way I learned about it was in reframing 786 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 4: questions to potential clients as a psychologist, where you know 787 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: they might say something and you want to continue the conversation, 788 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: but you don't necessarily have a question, so you reframe 789 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: it and go, wow, Beck, you just said that you're 790 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: negative about XYZ, and you kind of reframe what they've 791 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 4: just said, so one, they feel heard, but two they 792 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 4: might elaborate on it from a different perspective. So you 793 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 4: might have had a negative take and I might reframe 794 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: it in a positive light and be like, oh, but 795 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 4: it might not have all been bad, right, And you go, oh, yeah, 796 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 4: well actually, and you might open up about a different 797 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 4: facet of that experience that you're explaining to me. Because 798 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 4: the job of a psychologist isn't actually to just tell 799 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 4: you the answers. In fact, the answer has always come 800 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 4: from within the client. So it's about reframing it so 801 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 4: that maybe you see it from a different perspective and go, yeah, actually, 802 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 4: I hadn't thought about it that way, Victoria. Well, actually 803 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 4: my mum used to Does that make sense to reframe 804 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 4: the question. So the idea is that the frame through 805 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 4: which a person views a situation really determines their point 806 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 4: of view. So they might have rose colored glasses on 807 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 4: and everything is hunky dory. They might also have their 808 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 4: sunglasses on inside, which makes everything look a little bit 809 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 4: darker than it needs to be, and you might want 810 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 4: to be like, oh, hey, have you tried these yellow lenses? 811 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 4: Like what if we have a look at it from here? 812 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: So imagine looking through a camera lens. The picture you 813 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: see can actually be changed depending on what sunglasses you're 814 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 4: wearing and what camera lens filter that you put on, 815 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: or what Instagram filter is on that picture, or what's 816 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 4: the beauty filter on TikTok, like I swear that is 817 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 4: not helping anybody else, but by slightly changing what is 818 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 4: seen in the camera, the picture is both viewed and 819 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: experienced differently, And this is really positive if we're changing 820 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: our mindset, because you can go, oh, I do see 821 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 4: that really negatively? 822 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: What are some. 823 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 4: Tools I eat glasses that I could put on that 824 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 4: help me start to see it differently? But it can 825 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: also change things to negative, right, And this goes back 826 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 4: to again I mentioned TikTok. I genuinely feel like the 827 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 4: TikTok beauty filter is giving people unrealistic standards of what 828 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 4: beauty actually looks like because it's automatic and you just go, wow, 829 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 4: there's so many beautiful people on my feed. I can't 830 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 4: believe these people always look that good or their skin 831 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 4: is always that perfect, etc. Etc. And that is the 832 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: way you're viewing that circumstance. It's the lens that has 833 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 4: been put on that situation, which then determines your point 834 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 4: of view. And I think that that is actually a 835 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 4: really good example because it's the same as your outlook. 836 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 4: So when the frame is shifted, the meaning changes and 837 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 4: the thinking and the behavior often changes along with it. 838 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: So if you can literally put the glasses down or 839 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 4: take your sunglasses off while you're inside and maybe put 840 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 4: some rose colored or so maybe like yellow tindered ones. 841 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,240 Speaker 4: They don't look that hot on, But that is okay. 842 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 4: I think that that can actually put you in a 843 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 4: better position, and choosing to reframe can actually be can 844 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 4: be exhausting, like I learned it at university, because it 845 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 4: is something that you need to practice and learn. It 846 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: is not something you can be like, oh yeah, cool, 847 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 4: I learn on the podcast about reframing. I now do 848 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 4: that all the time. You have to work out it, 849 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 4: you have to consistently change it because your mind, as 850 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 4: a human being is automatically negative. Like that is human nature. 851 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 4: And the reason it is human nature is because we 852 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 4: used to be cave people and leaving the cave was 853 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 4: a risk. Leaving the cave was a risk. Yeah we 854 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 4: needed food, but it was the risk worth it. Yeah 855 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm pretty hungry, but also there's bears and stuff out there, 856 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 4: and automatically, as a survival instinct, we are negative because 857 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: the negative actually protects us. And if you grew up 858 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 4: in a scarcity mindset, then being negative protects you, right, 859 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 4: Like even going don't worry I'm not going to ask 860 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 4: mum for that. That's not worth It is going to 861 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 4: translate into you being an adult who doesn't want to 862 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 4: spend money on stuff because it gives you anxiety. You're 863 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: evasive of it. So I think it's really important to 864 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,399 Speaker 4: understand how that can actually impact you and what that 865 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 4: means and choose to reframe it. But that is going 866 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 4: to be work. I'm not going to put my rose 867 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 4: colored glasses on and be like it's so easy. It 868 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 4: can be. But that's why we want to have maybe 869 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 4: a daily task of sharing something we're grateful for, or 870 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 4: having a gratitude journal, or having something that can put 871 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: us in that perspective where we're going, all right, I'm 872 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 4: moving from scarcity mindset to this, or even just reflecting 873 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 4: on your own interactions that day and going wow, like 874 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 4: that was negative. How could I have approached that differently, 875 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 4: or how would I approach that? To feel like I'm 876 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: being my best self in this circumstance, I think can 877 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 4: actually be really really helpful. And I guess to summarize 878 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 4: all of that, the second you can start reframing the 879 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: way you view investment and how that works. The second 880 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 4: you can start creating the financial freedom that I know 881 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 4: you all deserve. And I think so many of us 882 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 4: limit ourselves because of our ex experiences or our upbringing 883 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 4: or the way that we view things, and that might 884 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 4: not actually be reality. 885 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: That makes so much sense. It's really really good to 886 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: see where that kind of mindset comes from. And it's 887 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: not just because I'm a negative person or whatever else. 888 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 4: No, absolutely not. It's ingrained in us. It's the way 889 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 4: we grew up, and it's a defense mechanism, like being 890 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 4: negative is a survival instinct, and often if you have 891 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 4: been through some level of trauma or a circumstance that 892 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 4: maybe was beyond your control, we revert to being negative. 893 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: And it makes sense because it's a vile that's how 894 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: we make our way through the world. But it's now 895 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three and we live in this world of 896 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 4: abundance and you can create anything you want, but we've 897 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 4: actually got to lift that mindset up and put this 898 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 4: other mindset on if you actually want to be successful 899 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 4: in that realm. 900 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: That's a really good takeaway. I'm going to go out 901 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: into the world and put my rose colored glasses on. 902 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: Now that's all we have time for today. V thank 903 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: you so much for that. Inport, Let's go and have 904 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: some more kitck cats. 905 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, we're going to take a break and have. 906 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: A kickkat but obviously wrong still, but that's okay with Oh. 907 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 4: Did I okay? Well, I'll just cancel myself and see 908 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 4: myself out. But you know what, I believe I can 909 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 4: do it better next time because I have an abundance mindset. 910 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: There she go. 911 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, But as always, we would love it if 912 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 4: you joined our Facebook group, where our community shares money, 913 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 4: tips and tricks every single day of the week, free 914 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 4: of judgment. So She's on the Money on Facebook and 915 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 4: send me your yellow Honda Jazz pictures. 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