1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Job mission with Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the jones En matter. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 3: Arms for the pub test mandatory vaccines for age care workers. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Does it pass the pub tests? 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 4: But in the news of late people saying how come 6 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 4: not all the workers who are working in aged care 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 4: have been vaccinated? A number of people want exemptions from this, 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 4: but National Cabinet is going to meet on Friday to 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 4: consider whether it should be mandatory. There's a lot of 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 4: support for this, others saying that compulsion could raise more 11 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 4: complex issues such as staff shortages and personal choice and 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 4: people who have medical reasons. Obviously they can't be vaccinated, 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 4: but where does it leave us. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 3: So the staff shortages would be say someone gets a 15 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: shot and then there are some side effects and they 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: can't come into work. 17 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 4: Or staff shortages are people who choose not to be 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 4: vaccinated and therefore think, you know what, I'll go and 19 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: work somewhere else for just as much money, because there's 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 4: not a lot of money involved. I'll get a job 21 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 4: where I'm not forced to have the JAB. 22 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: It's curious, though, if you're an airline pilot and you're 23 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: gonna fly overseas, you have to get your shots if 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: you're working the sewers like I did as a kid 25 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: in the eighties, you had to get a HEP B shot. 26 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so you didn't get hepatitis B. 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: We've beyond two thousand. We traveled to nations that wouldn't 28 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: let us in unless we'd had our jabs, and you 29 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: accept that you do it. 30 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: So why what's the roadblock? 31 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of hesitancy, and not all of 32 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: it is anti vaxers. We've spoken about this before as 33 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 4: to why there's a lot of hesitancy, the mixed messages 34 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: we're getting about the health. I was just talking to 35 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: one of our team who'd had the vaccination a few 36 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 4: days ago. He said that he's constantly analyzing how do 37 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: I feel? But when you work these hours, you often 38 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: feel dreadful in the morning, and he's thinking, am I 39 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 4: feeling more dreadful? Which if you have a flu shot, 40 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: you don't question. 41 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: All this stuff exactly. 42 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: So what do you think mandatory vaccines for aged care workers? 43 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 4: Does this pass the pub test? 44 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Now? I don't think it should be mandatory. 45 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 5: I had somebody this week who was forced to take 46 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 5: a vaccine and they've become very ill, and I. 47 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 6: Think, well, I think the question in the pub should 48 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 6: be asked in reverse. Should people be allowed to work 49 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 6: with AHEQRE people if they haven't been vaccinated? 50 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: That'd be a more precient question. Yes, it should be vaccinated. 51 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: I know person goes every day into early people's houses, 52 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: fill one to another to help with their cleaning, shopping. 53 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: She's a vaccinator. She's in her sixties. She's putting herself 54 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: at risk and all her clients as well. 55 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 5: It's funny because my husband just sent a letter off 56 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 5: to my father in law seem to only this week, 57 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 5: asking the same question, because it was brought up that 58 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 5: they've just had their second shot and one of the 59 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 5: staff members doesn't have it, and he asked the same 60 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 5: question and the reply came back was that it's personal choice. 61 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 6: I'm going to volunteer in an age care facility, and 62 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 6: I think a fair trade office they want to make 63 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 6: a mandatory would be to give us a choice of vaccine. 64 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Most definitely, no, Dad, no job there. 65 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: You have an interesting right of thoughts there. 66 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for all your calls. 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