1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,279 Speaker 1: Great the flick with ben o'she. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: A Happy New Year to you guys. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's okay to say happy New Year 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen someone until the end of night. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: That's right. It's hard to know what the statute of 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: limitations is on that rules. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: I wonder if you would agree with me that this 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: year's OSCAR nominations has probably the most gravitas of any 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: year in recent history. Absolutely, there are some really good 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: movies nominated. It's going to be a tough, tough year 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: to win some absolute crackers. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 3: Like I think it's one of the most even fields 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: that I can ever remember seeing. 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Like normally you have, you know, a. 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: Couple of popular movies that have done well at the 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: box office, and then you maybe get one or two 17 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: that you know, okay, like they're real serious films or 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: killer no film. Yeah, that's right, But this is all 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: good And honestly, the weakest one is probably Barbie. 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: If I agree, nothing there was a bit of fun, 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: that's fine, but you know. 22 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: A lot of money the box office, and more power 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 3: to everybody involved in that film. But you look at 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: the others and you're talking about like real classics, Like 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: if you look at what they kind of scored by critics. 26 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: Pretty much all of the other nine Best Picture nominees 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: are like sort of four stars and above films, four 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: four and a half, even five stars for some of them, 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: like really really fantastic films. And you wonder, based on 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: the timeline of how movies are made, if that downtime 31 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: during COVID, when all these writers and creatives were kind 32 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: of locked away in their homes, maybe spark a bit 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: of creativity and how we're seeing the results of the 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: fruits of. 35 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: The noise that's around exactly their job. 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: Yep. 37 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the one we've got to talk to talk 38 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: about today is nominated for a Best Picture. It's nominated 39 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: for Best Director and Best Actress in a Leading Role. 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm talking about Anatomy of a Fall. At least, like 41 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: you strike me as somebody who's a fan of world cinema. 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: You have an appreciation for world I do cultured, sophisticated. 43 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: I do like that. I do like that, yes, but 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: for some. 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 3: People, not a Marvel person, And for some people, you know, 46 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: they might look at world cinema and go, well, you know, look, 47 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: if I wanted to read, I'd buy a book subtitles, subtitles. 48 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: And to be in the right mood. But I you'll 49 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: miss stuff if you don't. 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: And I think it changed with Parasite a couple of 51 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: years ago at the Oscars, like that amazing South Korean film, 52 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: which was the first foreign film to win Best Picture 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: and Non English language Film, just just phenomenal, and it 54 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: kind of changed the way the Oscars works and the 55 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: way and the way I think a lot of moviegoers 56 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: look at international cinema. But Anatomy of a Fall is 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 3: an interesting one. So the French Oscars committee actually didn't 58 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: nominate Anatomy of a Fall as its official contender for 59 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: the French entry for the Foreign Film. They nominated another 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: film that didn't get any Oscar nominations whatsoever. But Anatomy 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 3: of a Fall is an international film that is in French, 62 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: it's also in German, but it's also really a lot 63 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 3: in English, and it's the way the film uses the 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: different languages, it's really part of the story. It stars 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: Sandra Huller, a German actress who's been nominated for Best Actress. 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: As I said, she's also in the Zone of Interest, 67 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: which is another Best Picture nominee, and she's phenomenal in 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: that too, so she's really a hot commodity right now 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: in Hollywood. And she plays a German actress named Sandra. 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: Her name is Sandra as well, so it's pretty easy 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: to remember who lives with her husband in the French Alps. 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 3: In this chalais sort of a hermit existence. They're both 73 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: writers working on books. She's a bit more successful than 74 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 3: her husband though, and there are some of the reasons 75 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: why that is kind of play out during the film. 76 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: And the film opens with her being interviewed by this 77 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 3: young female reporter for her latest book, and meanwhile, upstairs, 78 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: her husband is tucked away in the attic, and while 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: this interview is happening downstairs, he's blasting his music, which 80 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: is a pimp by Fitty Scent, except as like a 81 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: steel drum cover of instrumental cover version of it. It's 82 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: the most annoying sound you could possibly imagine. And so 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: she's trying to do this interview for her career and 84 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: this music is playing so loud, and he goes, geez, 85 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: her husband seems like a bit of a bit of 86 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: a nonsense, and then you know that the interview is 87 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: forced to come to an early finish. Because it's just 88 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: impossible to carry on with this music going on to 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: a stratch round. And then next minute the son who 90 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: comes home, the blind son comes home from walking his 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: guide dog finds the dad dead under the attic window. 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 3: So and the rest of the movie is about working 93 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: out did he fall, was it an accident? Did he 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: take his own life for reasons maybe because of in the. 95 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: Marriage, or. 96 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: Sandra do it for ruining the interview And so then 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: there's a police investigation and Sandra is forced to get 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: this old friend of hers to come on board as 99 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: her lawyer. And then the whole thing becomes like a 100 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: like a courtroom drama, and it plays out in the 101 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: French legal system, which operates so differently to what we're 102 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: used to do from Holland would call them dramas. So 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: you know how you get the you know, you get 104 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: the prosecution and you get the defense and people are 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: standing up and saying, oh I object and so on 106 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: and so forth. Strike that from the record, not like 107 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: that at all. It's a lot looser as anyone who's 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: watched kind of French teav of French dramas on TEAV 109 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: documentary documentary. Right, so the judge can talk to the witnesses, 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: can talk to the accused, they can talk to each other, 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: the lawyers talk. It's just like this crazy conversation basically, 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: escargo anybody. It's a weird, weird system. I don't know 113 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: how they get any justice out of it. And so 114 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: what happens Quickly you realize that it's not just this 115 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: this apparent death that's on trial. It's also Sandra's status 116 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 3: as a wife, like has she been a faithful wife? 117 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: It's also how they've the husband and wife have managed 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: their careers. Maybe she's plagiarized one of his book ideas 119 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: and that's what made. 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 2: Her famous in the first place. 121 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: And so you've got all these different factors and it 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: just builds up and builds up as she her personality 123 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: is put on trial, but she doesn't seem very sympathetic 124 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: at all. And that's why Sandra Hula has been nominated 125 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 3: for this OSCAR because it's such an incredible performance. Because 126 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: sometimes she looks like the victim, sometimes she looks like 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: the villain. Sometimes you're very sympathetic towards her, and other 128 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: times you think, oh man, she's she's a toxic person. 129 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: And to be able to do. 130 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: All of those in the one role is so hard 131 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: as an actor and have the audience go along with 132 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: you and make it feel like it's authentic. I think 133 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: is so incredible. And Justine Treat, the French director, is 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: nominated for Best Director as well, and as the only 135 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: only female this year in the Best Director category and 136 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: well deserved too. It is such a good film. 137 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: I want to see it. 138 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: I've just googled Sandra and yes I know her from 139 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: She is Good. 140 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a phenomenal actress. She's going to be you know, 141 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: like I look at it. Probably remember Christoph Volster, the 142 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: German actor from a few years ago who made his 143 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: mark in Quentin Tarantino as film and then and then 144 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: went on to have a really good Hollywood career. Central 145 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: Hall has the same. 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: She's on the all right, well it sounds totally up 147 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: my alley. 148 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: What are you giving it? So I'm going to give 149 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: this one four stars. It is a nice way to start, 150 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: a great film to start the year. 151 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, very good, Well says something. If she's in two 152 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: of the nominated. 153 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: Exactly everything you need to know. What a track record? 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: Well continued, the enjoyment of the holidays, make good to 155 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: see you next week.