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Speaker 1: She's an athlete that needs no introduction, but we're going

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Speaker 1: to give you on anyway. Growing up, Alona Mar was

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Speaker 1: school and never looked back. The rugby seven's Olympic medalers

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Speaker 1: takes us through her journey to becoming an American Eagle

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Speaker 1: and how she worked from the ground up to compliment

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Speaker 1: her rugby career with an epic social media platform, a

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Speaker 1: platform she uses to encourage women around the world to

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Speaker 1: take up sport, be confident and own how hard they've worked.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sophie Norris and I'm the producer here

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Speaker 1: at the Female Athlete Project. This week, Chloe sat down

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Speaker 1: with a very special guest. Alone O Mar, the most

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Speaker 1: followed rugby player on Instagram, gets vulnerable with Chloe about

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Speaker 1: her childhood, her confidence growing up, and when she knew

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Speaker 1: it was time to shoot her Olympic shop thanks to

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Speaker 1: our friends at Budgie Smuggler. Towards the end of the pod,

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Speaker 1: you can also hear Alona ranked her favorite Ozzie foods

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Speaker 1: and give some hot takes on other iconic snacks. We

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go Alona MA Welcome with the Female

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Speaker 2: Athlete Appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. This was such a late notice.

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Speaker 3: I messaged you, I think on Monday. I was like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we made it work. I mean I think I

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Speaker 2: think you were worth the time, but we made it work.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We always start our podcast we go back to childhood.

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Speaker 2: Can you describe Alona as a little kid. She was,

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Speaker 3: She was always a bigger kid than the other kids

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Speaker 3: I think sports was a place where she could really

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Speaker 3: Had trouble making friends. Was definitely a little socially awkward,

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Speaker 3: know how to actually talk to people. A lot of

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Speaker 2: Was that religious school, Uperring. I don't know if that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you love about sport? Like, obviously you

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Speaker 3: I don't think I should have been there. We should

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like players like Tappa and you coming

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Speaker 3: That I think we're for. Since I've been on team,

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Speaker 3: trying to, you know, suck you all in and then

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Speaker 3: It was, I mean, what everybody wanted. I think that

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Speaker 4: It's not fun. It's not fun.

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Speaker 3: No, like I love the grind. I love it sometimes,

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Speaker 3: It was just a weird tournament, you know. It was

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Speaker 3: want everything. I was like, oh, well, we're set to go.

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00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was a really interesting take, and then

435
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 3: they beat us in the quarterfinals and it was hard.

436
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 3: I really suffered with like post Olympic blues and depression

437
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: after that. I don't know if you felt any of

438
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 3: that as well, even from winning gold. People can feel that,

439
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 3: and it was a tough girl for me. I felt

440
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 3: like it was at times my fault, but that's sevens.

441
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's an interesting game, it's a fickle game,

442
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 3: and that it's never one mistake that'll lose a game,

443
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 3: but it is one mistake that will it.

444
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 2: Just doesn't it. Yeah, do you think that's spoken about

445
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: enough like that? And it doesn't necessarily have to be Olympics,

446
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 2: but that that post Olympics blues and depression that people

447
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 2: can go through after, like it might be a pinnacle

448
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: in terms of the event, but the result might go

449
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 2: either way and people kind of have that come down

450
00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: after that.

451
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 3: I don't I think it's me talked about more, especially

452
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 3: like with Michael Phelps's Weight of Goal documentary. I think

453
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: I was just really aware that that's what I was

454
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 3: in because I had watched the documentary beforehand and I

455
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: had been talked to. I knew that that's what I

456
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: had because and even some of my teammates now were

457
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 3: feeling it. I didn't feel it so much after this Olympics,

458
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 3: I think because I felt very fulfilled and I was

459
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 3: on a dance with the Star, so I was busy.

460
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 3: I had my mind going, but I had some of

461
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 3: my teammates too. We'd run the medal and now they

462
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 3: were just kind of back to training and the whole

463
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 3: team was different, the whole culture was different. The girls

464
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 3: you'd been grinding with for three years are gone, and

465
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 3: I think a lot of my teammates struggled who I

466
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 3: know chatted with because it's hard. You go from this

467
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 3: event every four years, that's what everybody thinks of, and

468
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: then you know, in our sport, you have a four

469
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 3: team minute game which anything can happen. I mean, Australia

470
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: had beaten us throughout and then we somehow beat them

471
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 3: in that bronze medal match. So it's like it doesn't

472
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 3: prepare you for that, and it's very hard afterwards. I

473
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: know a lot of athletes go through that because it's

474
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,359
Speaker 3: a high of highlands. I get back to your normal

475
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 3: life for a lot of athletes to truly get back

476
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: to the office or whatever it is.

477
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: So can we talk about that bronze middal match.

478
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to but I think

479
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: we probably should that moment at the end of the game,

480
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: can you just give us from your perspective, can you

481
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: just describe that moment.

482
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: You know what, when Maddie the I scored that second try,

483
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: I actually remember feeling not stressed about it.

484
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 4: Okay.

485
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: I felt like, okay, that's fine, We're gonna get the

486
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 3: ball back and we can do something. Thankfully, they didn't

487
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,919
Speaker 3: make the kick, but then so they kicked deep and

488
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: I remember the ball bounce and I was like, if

489
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 3: my teammate doesn't catch that, so she let a bounce in,

490
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 3: but one of my mates got it and she rucked over.

491
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 3: And then we were in that zone right where you

492
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,719
Speaker 3: you're not gonna want to throw two while to passes.

493
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 3: You're right by your tie zone. So I got it.

494
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: I tried to do what I could. I was like, well,

495
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 3: I gained an meters, but I wanted to se hear

496
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: the ball, so I just kind of secured it. And

497
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 3: so I'm on the ground the balls passed out to Spiff,

498
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 3: and Spiff I don't know what happened. Well, actually I

499
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 3: do what happens. And this is actually a really cool

500
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: thing about Spiff that I love telling people is actually

501
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: in college, one time she was about to be tackled

502
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 3: that way. She was kind of tackled over on the

503
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: end and like fall on her head and she broke

504
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: her collarbone. So now she knows whenever she's about to

505
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 3: be tackled that way, kind of like you know when

506
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: they grab the back of yours and put you down,

507
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: that she pushes her collarbone up, so she pushes her

508
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 3: everything up. So it was kind of an interesting thing.

509
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, what a what an effect that

510
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: she learned that the hard way in college. Who knew

511
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: that broke your breaking your collarbone would translate to scoring

512
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 3: the winning goal in the Olympics. Is't not that crazy?

513
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: I love that about her. So she knew she was.

514
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: She beat one tackle, and then she's about to do

515
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 3: get that done on the other tackle, and she knows.

516
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: She's like she starts driving up her collarbone. And the

517
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: thing about Smiff is she's crazy fast, and I think

518
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 3: she's an underrated player. She's insanely fast. She just breaks away.

519
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,959
Speaker 3: I'm on the ground, like what the I see her

520
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 3: spreading away and it doesn't register because I'm looking at

521
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: the I'm like, okay, time's about to be out trying

522
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 3: to add it all up. She's going. So I started

523
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: getting up and jumping. I guess my dad in the

524
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: stands is like, where's Maddie Levi? Because if anybody's gonna

525
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: she always comes from nowhere. No, she comes from nowhere,

526
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: and that's we know that. And so my dad was like,

527
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: we're all excited, but we're like, where's Matty Levi? And

528
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: I think if you'd given her five more meters, Maddie

529
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: could have had it ten ten meters, Maddie would have

530
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: had it. I mean, that was desperation in that. So

531
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: Smiff scores it and then Nya is in there first

532
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: and then I'm in their second. But we've hadn't calculated

533
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: it in our heads. We were just so excited. We

534
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 3: didn't realize we were tied there. Yeah, and we weren't

535
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: sure what's happening. So I was like, what's that? And

536
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 3: then we didn't have a kick around the field. That

537
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 3: was the big thing. Oh gosh, all the figures were off.

538
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: But Smith had been warming up her kick and warm

539
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: up and she never does that. She just warmed it

540
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: up because the coaches were like, well, you know, maybe

541
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 3: just we'll just warm up your kick, just because they

542
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 3: that's how they'd plan things. And so she like just

543
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: warmed her kick and I remember, I get the ball.

544
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm still like kind of doing the math in my

545
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 3: head and they're like, uh, get the the ball to her.

546
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 3: So I tried. I gave the ball to Smith like

547
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 3: really calmly. I'm like, because I didn't want to take

548
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 3: the kick. And I wouldn't have been mad if she'd

549
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 3: business kick because that's so much pressure. I was like,

550
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: here you go, Smith, he did whatever you get, you know,

551
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: I'm like chilling out whatever happens. But I'm just looking

552
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: at this pup rights. Yeah, and she makes that and

553
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 3: it was so I mean, it was crazy and I

554
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: don't think it was still doesn't feel real at times.

555
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: But we really wanted that. I'm not saying Australia didn't.

556
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: It would have been amazing for any program as any

557
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: any team out there would want it. We we wanted

558
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: for our team, I think for funding and whatnot, and

559
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: we got a big donation because of it is that

560
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: the Michelle Kan. The Michelle Kan four million dollars because

561
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: of that and because of what we'd done. I think

562
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: the work was on the field and also off of it.

563
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 3: I mean, we were doing social media as well as

564
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: a team and people were loving it. So it was amazing.

565
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: I really what we came for. I sometimes I'm sad

566
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: we didn't celebrate it as much as we could have.

567
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: USA almost put us on like a we were on

568
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: a media tour. Like the next day, it was like,

569
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: you guys were non crazy. It was crazy. I was

570
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: so that night we win. Today we win, and then

571
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: they make us do like a Today show at like

572
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: midnight so we can't go out and drink with our families.

573
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: And then the next day, from eleven to eleven, it's

574
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: a twelve hour media tour and we're on with like

575
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: because NBC R and so we're on with this this this,

576
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: we go from this interview, this is an interview, and

577
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: I'm sweating because I'm I'm I'm it's so hot. We

578
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 3: have these whole things on. Everybody wants to talk to

579
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: the TikTok girl, so I'm having to talk to them

580
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: and they're like, it was just a lot, And I

581
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: never felt like that's a bigger guy. I never feel

582
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: like I got to celebrate that with my team because

583
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 3: we were just on and then we were so tired afterwards,

584
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: you played a whole seven tournament and then we were

585
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: so tired. We were just like went home and a

586
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: lot of girls left the Olympics early. And that's something

587
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: where I get sad about because this was something we

588
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: you know, had wanted for so long and we did it. Yeah,

589
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 3: it wasn't a gold, but to us it felt like

590
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: a gold. I mean, we were joking out joking throughout

591
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: the day. It was like rolls gold because I think

592
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: that was almost treated like a gold medal.

593
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: It felt like, Yeah, from the outside, it felt like

594
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: to you guys, that was a gold medal.

595
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: I think it was. I think this scenario of it

596
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: being the first medal, how we want it. I mean,

597
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: that was an Olympic moment. That was probably one of

598
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: the best onements of the Parasa Olympics was Spif running

599
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: across that field. So that was a gold. I mean,

600
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: the media cared about us. It was a big thing

601
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: and I feel very fulfilled that we did that. Yeah,

602
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: like I know it wasn't number one, but it felt

603
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: like it.

604
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Cool. The TikTok piece, it was Tokyo. You blew

605
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 4: up already.

606
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 2: When did you start to notice the type of content

607
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: that people were really engaging with.

608
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: I think I've always tried to have my almost finger

609
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 3: on the pulse of what people like. I never wanted

610
00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: to pigeonhole myself into just a rugby niche. Yeah, because

611
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: that's a very small niche in the world, and that's

612
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: not a very financial heavy niche in terms of marketing

613
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: and whatnot. So I never wanted to just be rugby.

614
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: I think at the start I was doing some rugby content,

615
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 3: but going into Tokyo, I remember I made just some

616
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: my content on I think being single in the village,

617
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, people respond to this. I

618
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: just saw the people responding to it because people love

619
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: watching that. They watched Love Island, they watched The Bachelor,

620
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 3: and so I just thought it was funny because there

621
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: was all the talk about the cardboard beds. So I

622
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: kind of am always like forecasting. I'll look through my media. Okay,

623
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: we're talking about this, Let's see which way I can

624
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: spin it, or people love to see this, let me

625
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: see if I can spin it this way. So nothing's

626
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: out of bounds for me. I make jokes about myself,

627
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: I make jokes for you know, others. But I just

628
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: think that the way social media can reach people and

629
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: how it's changed my life has been, I mean crazy,

630
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: and that's all if you My athletes want right, we

631
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: want sponsorships, we want deals, and I found that that

632
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: was the way to do that.

633
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: Have you found it weird?

634
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: Like do you almost feel like people are surprised that

635
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: you are a whole, well rounded person, Like do you

636
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: think sometimes people put athletes in a box of thinking

637
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: you're a rugby player or you're something else, like a

638
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 2: people almost like taking it back that you are funny

639
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: and well rounded.

640
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: I think they feel that a lot of ways with

641
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 3: athletes that they're shocked when they're funny or something when

642
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: they have a personality because main part or you should

643
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: just be on the field focus on your sport. Well

644
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: that's for three hours in the day. What about the

645
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: other parts of the day when I'm chatting with my teammates.

646
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: So I have found that I think people are always

647
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: I always got the comment, so you're not taking it

648
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: seriously or you know, folcus on your sport. But athletes

649
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: are some of the funniest people I know. I mean,

650
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: we're the ones we're with each other every day, we're

651
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: in the locker room, josh with each other, cracking jokes.

652
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: So it is interesting that they put us in a

653
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 3: box like you should just be doing this, and you

654
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: only can eat this, and I only should say this,

655
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: and all you should be thinking about is rugby. But

656
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm in the Olympic village in Tokyo and we go

657
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: train for two three hours and then I'm stuck in

658
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: a village. It's COVID, so I have a lot of

659
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: time to do stuff. You can watch Seventh Film for

660
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: you know, fourteen minutes and then you're kind of done.

661
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: So I've never liked that. And then on the opposite side,

662
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: now people have put me in the box of the

663
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 3: content creator and don't believe in me so much as

664
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: the athlete, which is so interesting. I'm like, i still

665
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: want a gold. I still want a rose gold medal.

666
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: I it's gold, it's a gold.

667
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: I respect it.

668
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm on the metal, thank you so much. It's kind

669
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: of in the light, you squids a little bit. They

670
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: forget about that as well. Like that, also, they can't

671
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 3: be if you're a content creator good at a concert,

672
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: you're not actually a good athlete. You're just like a

673
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: mid athlete. And that always fires me up. Because I'm

674
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 3: an to me, I'm an athlete first. I'm a rugby

675
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: player first, and then the influencer content creator side. This

676
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: is something I do, even though that's what makes me

677
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: all my come. I want to be an athlete first.

678
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: Yet they think that because of that, it takes away

679
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: from it.

680
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: Yes, there it is almost this belief that you can

681
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: only exist doing one thing. Well yeah, almost at a time.

682
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: That wasn't That's always been interesting is and one guy

683
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: the Olympics, Hank Green's brother, he made a TikTok about it,

684
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 3: like people usually are good at one thing, but he

685
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: liked that I was really good at both things. And

686
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: there's more athletes that could be. I just think they're

687
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: not encouraged to. Maybe it's the American mindset of like

688
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: we're very much so every man for himself. I want

689
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 3: to get you know, I want to be the best me,

690
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: me me. Maybe that's a little bit. What's in me

691
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: is like I want to succeed. I want to get smisorships.

692
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: I want to be able to live a comfortable life

693
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: through sport and media. So I'm going to put myself

694
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 3: out there. Whereas I think I remember when I was

695
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: in New Zealand for the World Cup. I wasn't playing,

696
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: but I was just there three years ago. I learned

697
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: to like tall tall poppy syndrome. Yes, kind of petting

698
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 3: it down, and I think that's very rampant in rugby

699
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: as well. It's always when you hear the boys talking

700
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: about the game, so use one player of them mouth

701
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: she scored five tries, two individuals, and they're like all

702
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: the all the boys you know.

703
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: All that you know.

704
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: So there is something about it. Maybe it's a difference

705
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: in culture. I think it's shifting a little bit because

706
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: it doesn't take away from my rise has actually risen

707
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: my whole team, in the whole sport in general. So

708
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: I think that hopefully it's shifting. Rugby is a very

709
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: stoic sport full of a lot of men, a lot

710
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: of older white men who have a very maybe older

711
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: view of what it should be. Even I think the

712
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: men's players even probably get it worse than I do.

713
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: They're so supposed to be on the field, do your job,

714
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: that's it. You can't have a personality. They're they're made

715
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: fun of her personality or say if they lose a

716
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: game and they post a TikTok the day before they'll

717
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: be like, it's because of the TikTok or.

718
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: Even the Jasmine Joyce example was that did you say that, well,

719
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, of like her doing the TikTok and

720
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: she got.

721
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: Sl I thought the video was great, it was amazing,

722
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: and that's what I love. And I messaged them both

723
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: and I said that you're you're starting conversations and as

724
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: my dad says, all press is good press, and you're

725
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: bringing yourself up. Now people know about Jasmine Joyce and

726
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: and now people know about Sarah burn Like Sarah Burns

727
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 3: been putting out great content as well. I just think

728
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: that people can't separate the two. That you have to be.

729
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: You have to be this athlete and that's it. Jasmind

730
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: Joyce is one of the best players in the world,

731
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: one of the best tacklers in the world. The girl's

732
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: also funny as heck, so it doesn't take away from

733
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 3: her ability to tackle.

734
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: You touched on this idea of like you succeeding helps

735
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: others to rise. Bears, my co host of our weekly

736
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: podcast at the Female Athlete Project, would die at that

737
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: because she's obsessed with the phrase a rising tide, liift

738
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: or boats and we talk about it a lot.

739
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: It's part of our new merch.

740
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: But I see what you're doing from your content, and

741
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that, to me is what you're doing.

742
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: I feel like you have grown a huge amount in

743
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: terms of your following, but I feel like everywhere you go,

744
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: you lift other people up, you tag other people, you

745
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: include them in your content. I feel like you've really

746
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: been able to leverage what you've achieved to help grow

747
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: women's sport and women's rugby. Is that quite a strategic

748
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: thing or is that just a pretty natural thing for you.

749
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: I think it's natural in a way. I've always been

750
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: a team sport athlete. I think it's also strategic because well,

751
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 3: I just make the jokes sounds. Everyone keeps calling me

752
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: the super star of rugby, and I'm like, I'm tired.

753
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: We cannot have one because that's not enough for our sport.

754
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: We need more. We need people to go out and

755
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: watch Sarah Burn play and go out because they want

756
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: to see Jasmin Joyce play or Charlie Kaslick, like we

757
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: need that. It can't just because like, oh, alone is playing,

758
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: Let's go to this one game. Like in the PWR,

759
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: that was my thing is in the PBR are scared. Yeah,

760
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: it's great. We're getting out these numbers for these games

761
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 3: that I'm playing in, but I'm probably not gonna play

762
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: next year. Are we still going to get the numbers?

763
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: We need more to grow the game. I think I'm

764
00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: at a comfortable point to where I mean, not that

765
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: I'm untouchable, but I've I've worked very hard, and I've

766
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 3: you know, grown, grown, grown, grown grown. I just don't

767
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: see it as like like I don't think I'm ever

768
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: gonna get bashed down or something like that. I'm not.

769
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of somebody coming over and overtaking me.

770
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: If somebody ever takes me, awesome, that's great. Like let's

771
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 3: get out of a superstar because I'm again very tired. Okay,

772
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: I can got movie, I cannot, So can we get more?

773
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: Like I want these girls rides up and I give

774
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: them little pointers like do this, do this to this.

775
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: It's about now. I think them taking it and being prepared,

776
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: and it's a vulnerability they have to have. It's a

777
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: very vulnerable thing to put yourself online like that, and

778
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 3: I think they're doing it. I just am trying to

779
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: be like the catalyst for it like I make a

780
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: lot of videos for my teammates, Like Sarah Burne, I

781
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: would make a video in bears and I would keep

782
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 3: I would give me your phone and I would create

783
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: it and then suppose it for her just because I

784
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: had the mind of it. And so I would I

785
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: send videos to my teammates constantly, like this is a

786
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 3: great video for you. Go make it because it's just

787
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: rise and side lips all both. If we can all

788
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 3: just keep getting if all of us keep getting better,

789
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: the sport keeps getting better, we all get more notoriety.

790
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: So it just just felt natural. And I think that

791
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: my teammates are some of the best people around there.

792
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be where I am without them, Like I

793
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: wouldn't be this confident without Ni Tapper making me feel

794
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: so good about myself all the time. Or Nicole Harlin,

795
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: my best friend who always helps me. So I just

796
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 3: want there to be more stars. I think we need that.

797
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 3: I think we need people to go out to games

798
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: to see individuals. Yeah, that's fine, that's what is making

799
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 3: sports rise. Like when you think of Ronda Rowsei for

800
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: the UFC, they went out to see Ronda ROUSI. Yeah,

801
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: if you go out to see me and then you

802
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: get exposed to these other players. That's awesome, that's what

803
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: we want.

804
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you touched on the vulnerability piece, and it just

805
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: made me think of you as that awkward kid who

806
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: would linger on the outside of the circle.

807
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 4: Like.

808
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: It's a pretty stark change to now be in a

809
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: position where you do feel so comfortable, to be vulnerable

810
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: in front of a global audience.

811
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: I don't know how I got there, fully, I think

812
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: it was the teammates around me who make me feel

813
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: confident to do that. I always the story I tell

814
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: about Nia Tappa always is being a big girl. I

815
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 3: would look around and see my other teammates on USA

816
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: and they wouldn't be eating that much, Like, okay, maybe

817
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: I need to eat as much as them. And then

818
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: we were at a buffet once and Nya Taper goes

819
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: to me like, no, you should be eating more. You're

820
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 3: a big girl. That's a fact. You know. She didn't

821
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: say that, but I was like, oh, that's a fact.

822
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 3: I'm a big girl. I need to eat more. And

823
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: so having somebody who's like like a sport like rugby,

824
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: that just praises that. I don't really know how I've

825
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: gotten over it, it's I'm definitely very awkward at heart.

826
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: I still I think what I've done is now just

827
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: accepted it. And I think awkwardness is a thing that

828
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: also brings people together and makes people feel comfortable. So

829
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: when I am awkward is if in some way I'm

830
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: awkward to you and then you're like, Okay, she's kind

831
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: of weird, perfect like we're now you feel better about

832
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: it to hang out with me totally, So I don't

833
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: mind the awkwardness. I've kind of controlled it. I'm I

834
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: can make any situation awkward truly, but I think it's

835
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 3: a kind of a power to have of making people

836
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: feel comfortable and connected and not feeling judged. And I still,

837
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 3: and many times I think I'm trying to actually figure

838
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: out still who I am and step into that role

839
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 3: and believe that I can be that role. Believe that

840
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm the boss business woman now and that I deserve

841
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 3: to be that and that I have power now. And

842
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: that's something I'm really trying to hone in on, is

843
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: that you know, when I walk into a room, it's

844
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: I am Alonamar. I've done a lot of work to

845
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: get there, but it is they're still lingering insecurities constantly.

846
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: Can we talk about the CNN imposts in Drogers.

847
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 3: I've always shocked they posted that. I was like, why

848
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: would you post that?

849
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: Was? That went absolutely viral and it resonated with a

850
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: lot of people.

851
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: Are you like? Were you just like? Why did you

852
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 4: ask me that? Lady?

853
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 3: Well, I get asked out a lot, so oh yeah,

854
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: y And I posted a video before, like weeks before,

855
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: about it because she'd asked me, and I was like,

856
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: I'm not so Then I posted all a sick dark

857
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: not saying anything who it was, but about imposterism because

858
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: I always get asked that. I'm like, how do you

859
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 3: deal with it? I'm like, what are you talking about?

860
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: I was little, I was at practice earlier, I was

861
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 3: working my butt off earlier. You know, So this idea,

862
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: I think this forced humbleness on women. I don't appreciate.

863
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: And I think that women are almost told to have

864
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: it because it will seem good, You'll seem really approachable.

865
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to be too much. It's

866
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: if you sit and people just say they have imposterism.

867
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: I think to say it to seem like toy and

868
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: and humble, But I think it's a false sense of humbleness.

869
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 3: At times, there's times to be humble, but a lot

870
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: of times these women women worked so hard and a

871
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 3: lot of times if they're in a role they are

872
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: supposed to be there, there's like probably there's been studies out,

873
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: you know, for coaches. A man can play middle school

874
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: basketball and he's like, yeah, I can, I can coach

875
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: the high schoo basketball tam that it'll be fine. A

876
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: women will be like, I didn't make the w NBA.

877
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: I probably can't coach this team, you know. So we're

878
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: overqualified at times, and yet we still don't belie that

879
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: we deserve to be there. And I just find it

880
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: to be so funny. And whenever people say they have impositis,

881
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what are you talking about? You've worked

882
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: so hard, it's you can have it. Of course, if

883
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: you have it, you have it. But I think, don't

884
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: forget how hard you've worked, and don't let people minimize that.

885
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: It's not maybe boasting, it's just about being. It's a

886
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: fact you've worked to get there. You've worked hard to

887
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: get there. Don't let somebody think that false modesty is

888
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 3: the key question.

889
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: A couple of questions that I ask everyone on the

890
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: podcast is firstly, who has had the biggest impact on

891
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: you as a person.

892
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: Probably my sisters as a duo. I think that my

893
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: oldest sister for sure. We are always very similar in age,

894
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: similar in hanging out. We did a lot of things together,

895
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: and then even my younger sister. Now I think that

896
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: they're my influencers. I call them whatever they do, I do,

897
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: and then the world season they do. So having sisters

898
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: is a blessing. And having sisters who are supportive, who

899
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: look like you, who love you like that really helps

900
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: you go through I think the world and the challenges.

901
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 4: How's it been doing the podcast with It's epic.

902
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 3: It's been good. It's been good. I think it's kind

903
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 3: of weird because it's just us on our you know,

904
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: chatting like how we do all the time on video calls.

905
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: So it's been fun. I sometimes I'm like, we're just

906
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: saying we just keep talking because we have so much

907
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: more we can say. But it's been really fun. And

908
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: also to get again rising Tide lifts all boats like

909
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: for me, I'm lifting and are cool to see my

910
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 3: sisters come with me as well. It's been fun. We

911
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: have so much we want to talk about and we

912
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: want I've been so busy with the with Rugby. I

913
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: want to get so we can just do it constantly,

914
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: just say what's happening going on in our days because

915
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever been afraid to share. We've

916
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: never been afraid to show people real women and our

917
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: thoughts and feelings.

918
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Next question is what has been

919
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: your favorite failure.

920
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: That's good because I'm always asked like, what would you

921
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: want to change from? You know, what would you go

922
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: back and tell your younger self? What would you want

923
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: to change? And I think like failures like that, like

924
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: everything has led to where I'm at now. In a way,

925
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: my failure was the friends that I didn't make I

926
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: think are the friends that I thought were my friends

927
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: at times. Those little things and those little experiences are

928
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 3: what kind of led me to this path now. Like

929
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 3: it's hard to explain and it's very like personal things,

930
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: but the relationship with that I thought I had that

931
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: weren't actually right, like those little failures. In a way,

932
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't change. I wouldn't change how hurt I was,

933
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: how much it changed me. I think it's what has

934
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: led me to hear and you know, young Alona. She

935
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: was so brave and strong to go through that. So

936
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: I I think the failures. I love that favorite failure.

937
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'll have to keep thinking because I've

938
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 3: done there's someone so many.

939
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a tricky, it's a trick. It stumps, but

940
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: I should have given.

941
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: You a heads up, free what's your favorite failue?

942
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: My favorite failure?

943
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: I went to an interview for a women's sports podcast

944
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 2: with a gambling company.

945
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: I won't name which gambling company it was, and I

946
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: rocked up.

947
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: This was I was playing, I'd finished sevens, I was

948
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: playing aflow at the time. I'd moved down to Melbourne

949
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: and I rocked up to this interview and I think

950
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 2: they were it was going to be like a very

951
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: casual podcast, but I rocked up with like pages of

952
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: paper of like notes that i'd prepared to like be ready,

953
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: and I was so nervous, and I like I ended up.

954
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: After I stood up, I was not myself at all

955
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: in the interview. I was really really like awkward and

956
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: I didn't really speak my mind at all because I

957
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: was so worried about them judging what I was saying,

958
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: to see whether i'd be gone on the podcast and

959
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: I stood up, and I remember I dropped my papers

960
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: all over the floor and I was mortified, and.

961
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 4: I didn't get the job.

962
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: But only a few months later, I started the Female

963
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: Athlete Project and it's grown to be the like. It

964
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: gives me the most purpose, more than more than sport

965
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 2: ever has. You know, playing sport ever has like waking

966
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: up and doing this every day. He's given me so

967
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 2: much purpose And I'm so glad I'm not sitting hosting

968
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 2: the podcast on a gambling company for their women's sports podcast.

969
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: Think maybe I worked out. I like that. I love

970
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: the little moments that you don't realize it and then

971
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 3: lead to this where you're at now.

972
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: M hm, That's why I like that question. Is it

973
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: snack time? Are we doing? Ausie snack time?

974
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: Back time?

975
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 4: Snack time?

976
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: Snack time?

977
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: What do we got?

978
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got We're gonna rank. Do we have seven?

979
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: You're going to rank one to seven?

980
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 4: Are we on? I'm excited, I'm starving. I'm so glad

981
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 4: I got my own plate.

982
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, thank you to Ossie Icons, Budgy Smuggler. We're

983
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 2: going to rank seven iconic Ozzie foods are trying to

984
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 2: start with.

985
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 3: Let's start with the sprinkly toast thing here, fairy bread,

986
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: fairy bread? Did you make this?

987
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: Iconic producer Sofas made this from scratch? This is like

988
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: kid's birthday party, Like you want fairy bread at kid's

989
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 2: birthday party?

990
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 3: Great lines here, you killed the border.

991
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 4: Okay, it's so good.

992
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sprinkles on tots like you know,

993
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 3: it's just butter and sprinkles, right, Uh huh. My mom

994
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: is Dutch and there something like this Dutch. This white

995
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: bread's really slapping too. That is basic. M I'm into it.

996
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm into it.

997
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep going while you do.

998
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: I have to rank it now or can I wait?

999
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: Can I go through all and then rank? I feel

1000
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: like you have to rank it now.

1001
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: You're fine, rank it now, and then if you hate it,

1002
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: we'll rank at the end and we'll pretend you never right.

1003
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: Rank that three right. These are shapes, I'm assuming.

1004
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: Shapes, pizza shapes.

1005
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: M hmm. It's like a pizza goldfish.

1006
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 4: What's a goldfish?

1007
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: That's crazy. It's it is literally just as it's a

1008
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: cracker in the form of a of a fish, and

1009
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: we love them pizza flavor. Yeah, they do pizza flavor

1010
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 3: regular flavored.

1011
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 4: Because I would say barbecue shipes.

1012
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: I better.

1013
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 4: Okay, where are we going?

1014
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: I just know there's a tim Tan and that'll probably one.

1015
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go too. I like I like pizza STIPs

1016
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: going higher? What's this before, Caramela? I'll probably love it.

1017
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: Can't wait. You've gone really highly record. I know I

1018
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: just see that bed in my end. I know that

1019
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: bad boys hitting a seven?

1020
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: Oh that low?

1021
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: You know already? Well, maybe if there was cheese on there, producer,

1022
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 3: maybe if we weren't skimping around here, put some real

1023
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 3: cheese on it, or ham if you want some ham.

1024
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: I thought that was what you did on Paramela.

1025
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1026
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: Delicious first time. I don't think I've had this before.

1027
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 3: Very good, beautiful. But aren't the Asia girls sponsored by Cadbury.

1028
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 3: What a sponsor to have?

1029
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Great sponsor. So these in a bigger you can get

1030
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 2: them in a bigg koala and lots of people when

1031
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: they were fundraising for sport, would sell carry around a

1032
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: box and sell them for a dollar. It's a very

1033
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: iconic part of a sporting childhood in Australia.

1034
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 3: We would do something like that with bars, Snickers and whatnot,

1035
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: bread fog. It's delicious.

1036
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 4: Where are you gonna put it?

1037
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on Hershey's bushes like American child

1038
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: verus Cadbury.

1039
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: That's a tough question. I find Hershe's is quite sweet

1040
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: in comparison. Do you reckon like the little kisses? I

1041
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: do quite like a little kiss They're fine. Oh, I

1042
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: think like Cadbury is better. What's like when you're talking Hershey's,

1043
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: what's your go to Hershey's?

1044
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 3: The thing is the only time I'm going to eat

1045
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: a Hershe's barer is if it's in the Smores. That's

1046
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: the only rate. That's the right time to eat a

1047
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: Hershey spire? Yeah right, okay, Tosta marshmall with my grand

1048
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: crap that that's the only chocolate I think I eat

1049
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: with us more too?

1050
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 4: What's in Hershy's bart Is it just playing chocolate? Yeah?

1051
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: Milk chocolate like a Cadbury block?

1052
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, I got yeah, but different sweeter sweeter

1053
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.

1054
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 3: Okay, that was delicious. I'm now ranking A four. I

1055
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: guess you should have thrown in some really nasty Okay,

1056
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: what's this? What is this?

1057
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 4: Lamington?

1058
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 3: I like I might have tried this like a year

1059
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 3: ago with like Maddie Levi, Oh is this milk?

1060
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: Oh?

1061
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: Milo? Bring in?

1062
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 4: Have you done milow?

1063
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: Pretty much? Yeah? I love tim names and some tea.

1064
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 2: Okay, that fast.

1065
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: Five. I'd give it a six.

1066
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: Oh it's low.

1067
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1068
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: So they do it with like old sponge, like this

1069
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 2: is not old sponge. This is from the supermarket, but

1070
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: it's like the concept old sponge. And then they soak

1071
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: it up in chocolate. Yeah, I don't know about it.

1072
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: Six six Where are we going next?

1073
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: Well, let's go Vegamin washed it down with some Maybe

1074
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: I will like it. Okay, here we are, I'll write,

1075
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 3: huhm mmm. I think it would be better with cheese.

1076
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 3: What is that? Almost a bird taste or something to it?

1077
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: It's got something about it because it's salty right in

1078
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: its essence, it's very salty.

1079
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 4: Too much.

1080
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: I I think I would eat it with cheese. Okay, Well,

1081
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: back on board, but I'm still ranking that of seven

1082
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: for sure. I don't know the point of that. Is

1083
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 3: it good for your micro biome or something?

1084
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: You used to be honest, got a lot of batamin

1085
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: B twelve round these parts.

1086
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: Do you want milo or Tim tam.

1087
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: Next, let's go with the Milo because I've tried yeah,

1088
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: scoop it in, and I tried timms. I mean, I

1089
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: mean a lot of Tim Tamy.

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00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Milo is like some people do. The ratio of

1091
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: the cup is almost completely Milo. Like it's like thick.

1092
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: We might need to give you a bit more so

1093
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of room to work with.

1094
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 2: I like to eat. Are you like thoset breaks We've

1095
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: just got full cream?

1096
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I drink. Is this like Nest quick? I

1097
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 3: think it's probably nestquik.

1098
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: I reckon it's better. I reckon it's way better.

1099
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you guys won't say that. Okay, I don't

1100
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 3: know if this is gonna mix.

1101
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, just I reckon, get get a top bit, but

1102
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: don't breathe it in. You know what I'm saying.

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00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 3: That was a look a look gritty. Let me just

1104
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: taste it on its own. This is it's nastley huh. Okay,

1105
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: this is probably not advised.

1106
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 4: But oh you're going solo powder?

1107
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, like it's not mixing. Well, okay, delicious. One

1108
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,280
Speaker 3: thing about me, I love instant like hot chocolate. Okay,

1109
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 3: and it's giving that this is our gift to you.

1110
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Thanks, you don't want to fly with it.

1111
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 3: It's it's a tough one to story. Almost get a

1112
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: cocktail shaker.

1113
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: You want me to give you a proper stir of

1114
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: your Milo? It's a skill, I reckon, how much.

1115
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: Milo are you drinking?

1116
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 4: As a kid? Dead's there?

1117
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: It was like it was like a get home from school. Yeah,

1118
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 2: a daily activity. See, it's a skill. You got to

1119
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: like build up the tornado and it just gradually.

1120
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: Ok, all right, what do we wait? Where'd you rank mylo.

1121
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: Mile is delicious? I'm gonna give it a five.

1122
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 4: Stay sad. It could be higher.

1123
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: It could be higher, but my whole ranking system is off.

1124
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 3: My whole ranking system is in the gutter. Thank you.

1125
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's that much better, but you

1126
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 4: got a bit more going on.

1127
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: Still gritty and I'm chewing it, but it's good yummy. Alright, Wait, this.

1128
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 4: Is ending ill.

1129
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: No tea producer, Oh oh my god, this is the prison.

1130
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: I can't work in these kodiships.

1131
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: Hum Delicious could dip in the Milo. No, No, it's

1132
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: not the same as tea.

1133
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good.

1134
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 4: Congo wrong, congo? Wrong with Tim Tam.

1135
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 3: Our Tim Tam is always double chocolate. Mm hmm.

1136
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: I think this is standard. You can get double coat.

1137
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: You have the double coat. The blue dark Boy pack

1138
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: have They're good. Also the caramel one mm hmm like

1139
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: a caramel Yeah, caramel one.

1140
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 3: Delicious.

1141
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: Okay, back to number one, number one, Rado your rank

1142
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: from now? Wait because if you had everything about everything?

1143
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah what you seven?

1144
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: Seven? So a mate? Six is still the sponge cake,

1145
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: Five is the Sprinkles fairy bread, four is the Milo.

1146
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 3: Three is the pizza shapes then caramel qualas and Timmy Tammy's.

1147
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 4: Pizza shapes were white higher than I thought.

1148
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: No, and I'm gonna eat them again. I actually I

1149
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: am really messing with these. So maybe Timmy Tammy, Timmy Tammy, Yeah, no,

1150
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 3: they're call them yea they have? You have called that year.

1151
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: I like that a lot.

1152
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: I feel like it's weird to go serious after doing

1153
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: that very fun segment, but I'm genuinely very thankful for

1154
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 2: your time. For someone who gets pulled in I imagine

1155
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: a crazy amount of directions, I'm really thankful for you

1156
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: giving us the time and space to come and have

1157
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 2: a chat, and for your vulnerability as well, for sharing

1158
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: your story.

1159
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 4: So thank you so much to learn.

1160
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. This was awesome to end

1161
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 3: with snacks. What I only request is awesome. I'm not

1162
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: thank you. And this is so cool what your podcast

1163
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 3: is doing for sport, not only in Australia, in the world.

1164
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so cool to see the numbers you

1165
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: guys are doing all over and I get cheared posts

1166
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: from you guys so much, and you're covering sports of

1167
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 3: every realm. So I think that's really impactful because it's,

1168
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: as I say, it's not just rugby that's changing lives,

1169
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 3: it's every sport. And if you can do any sport

1170
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: and see what your body's cable of, it's important.

1171
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 4: So awesome. I appreciate that. Thank you so much.

1172
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 3: Good and thank you for my shapes.

1173
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: Yeah more paid for shade like three in my cheek.

1174
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: What I was saying it I love that.

1175
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: How good? Thank you very much, not thank you, thanks

1176
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 4: so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: If you got something out of this episode, I would

1178
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,319
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1179
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,359
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1180
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,480
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1181
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1182
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,560
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