1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Well, it is time for the week that was. I'm 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: not too sure what happened. They're a bit of a 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: technical issue, but we are all here. Let's get into 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: the weather quickly. First, partly cloudy, medium chants of showers 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: thirty five is what we're heading for in the city, 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: thirty seven in the rural area, and mostly sunny, slight 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: chants of showers in Katherine, and a very warm forty 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: one degrees the top. 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: Ends tied times. 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: We're expecting a low tide of one point one meter 11 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: at twelve twenty today it's twenty seven degrees in Darwin, 12 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: twenty eight in the rural area and in Catherine already 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: sitting on thirty degrees and joining us in the studio 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: right now. For the week that was, we have got 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: the Deputy Opposition Leader, Jared Maylee. 16 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Good morning Katy, Good morning listener. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: We've got Keesier Puric, the Independent member for Goida. Good morning, Kezier, 18 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: good morning, good morning rural people. And we've got Kate Warden, 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: the Minister for Territory, Families and Housing and various other things. 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: Good morning to you. 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: Good morning Katy, and hello to everybody in Sanders and 22 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 4: this man. 23 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Great to have you all in the studio with us, 24 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and I know it has been a very interesting week. 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: Before we get into it, I do want to say 26 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Happy International Means Day as well. 27 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 5: A great day for all of these. 28 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: For your name, I imagine if we had a week, 29 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: imagine if we had a week with only women on 30 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: the padel, I would have felt very bad. 31 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: No, it's wonderful to have you in here, Jared. A 32 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: big Happy. 33 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: International Men's Day to all the great blokes out there. 34 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: I know that you know that all of us have 35 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: wonderful men in our lives, and I think it's a 36 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: really important day for everybody. 37 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: Now let's get into. 38 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: It, because this week has been a really big week, 39 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: I think the biggest week that we've had in the 40 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: Northern Territory when you talk about COVID and the concerns 41 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: that we've got now. Very fortunately obviously, yesterday we learned 42 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: that we recorded no locally acquired cases new locally acquired 43 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: cases of COVID nineteen. The Chief Minister, Michael Gunner said 44 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: that the total remained at nineteen. When it comes to 45 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: the cluster that we've got currently nine of those people 46 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: are fully vaccinated, two had received one dose, five are unvaccinated, 47 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: and three are not eligible. 48 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: That's out of the new ones. 49 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Now we know that there are a number of close 50 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: contacts which have been identified and the situation is still. 51 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: Very much unknown. 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: I think you'd have to say for those in Catherine 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: at this point, with the wastewater testing coming back yesterday 54 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: showing that there was positive COVID in all three of 55 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: those catchment areas, it's a concern and I think it's 56 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: the biggest concern that we've had really for the territory 57 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: at this point when it comes to COVID. 58 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 4: I think we've been you know, almost building up for 59 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: this for eighteen months, probably close on two years now 60 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: essentially that we've you know, all of those ducks have 61 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 4: been put in a line for this. I don't think 62 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 4: it's been totally unexpected, but I do think I heard 63 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: of somebody saying this morning that yesterday with the announcements, 64 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: everybody's sort of almost collectively holding their breaths to see 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: where we're at. And I think it has you know, 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: everybody's tuned in Katie, which I think is a. 67 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 5: Really good thing. 68 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 4: Whether you're in Alice Springs or your intenant Creek. I 69 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: think this has got everybody tuning in and talking about 70 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: it and knowing that for a long time we've sort 71 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: of maybe perhaps been a product of our own good 72 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: luck and also hard work. But eventually, I think it's 73 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: always the signs were there that this was coming, and 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: it's how we've responded to that over the last week 75 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: that's been not just interesting, but I do want to 76 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: kick off today by just saying how downed good people 77 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: that I've certainly been with and had anything to do with, 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 4: have stepped up to the plate this week and it's 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 4: been interesting. I think territories have been absolutely amazing this week. 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 3: Yes, Katie, thanks sir, and I agree with what you're saying. 81 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: You've had the government's had two years to get ready 82 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: for this, and unfortunately this just shows that there's been 83 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: an absolute lack of playing for the last two years. 84 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: This is our first outbreak, and I agree that you're 85 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: saying was to be expected and it's coming, and everyone 86 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: knew about that for two years to get the health 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: system ready. We've only had one case of COVID who's 88 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: gone into the health SYSM, not intensive came on you're 89 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: on eventually just into the hospital for treatment and we've 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: already had to cancel surgery. So we've had two years 91 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: to get the health system up and running. We have 92 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: even had an outbreak. The dility modeling is suggesting about 93 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: thirty people cases a day. We've had one case and 94 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: we've had to cancel a the selective surgeries. This shows 95 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: that there's been no planning for this labor govern for the 96 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: last two years. Then we talk about the rollout of 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: the vaccine. We've had a year to do that, it 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: didn't get to where it needed to go. The mandate 99 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: come in. That was the show because he's made that decision. 100 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: The mandates come and gone, and we're still not need 101 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: eighty percent. Like I've got the latest figures for the 102 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: literally it's fifty two percent. And so talking about forward 103 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: planning here we talk about the home quarantine, which we're 104 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: moving to. What's the plan in relation to that, because 105 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: you can't use that unless you get eighty percent, So 106 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: what is it? What is the government's plan to get 107 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: us from where we are now on our vaccine it's 108 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: at fifty percent in the rural area to the eighty 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 3: percent to be able to hone quarantine. 110 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 6: I see that there is no plan, because that's really clear. 111 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: The plan is to get everybody vaccinate. 112 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: How you can get over you're going to do that well, 113 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 3: and you've had a year to do that and you 114 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: failed the man and come and gone and it's still 115 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: we're still not at eighty percent. 116 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 6: So what are you going to do. 117 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: It's easy to stand on the lines without actually talking 118 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: about what's going on. I'll tell you in my world, 119 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: we've got public housing safety officers going to all to 120 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: door at public housing. We've got you know, I know 121 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 4: that health has been going to door to door, so 122 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: there's been you do you know it's an escalating type 123 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: of situation. I know you wouldn't get it, Jared, because 124 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: actually you're not in government. You don't ask the right questions. 125 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: You just just. 126 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: Go on desiree and you failed or. 127 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: I think what we can all be sure of is 128 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: that it is a really serious situation at the moment. 129 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: In terms of Robinson River, obviously they have got the 130 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: cluster there. We know that that also in Catherine. Like 131 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: I said, we've got a number of people in Catherine, 132 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: and at this point in time, we are still really 133 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: waiting for a number of those test results to come 134 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: back and what I do want to talk about is 135 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: that testing. And we know we caught up a little 136 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: bit earlier in the week with well with the Kirby's 137 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: Pub owner who had said that it's going to be 138 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: difficult to do that tracking and tracing. 139 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 5: Basically, Katie, I did listen to that interview with that 140 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 5: woman and the fact that the staff couldn't get tested, 141 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 5: and I think you had another lady on the on 142 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 5: your show who said I think you had on Monday 143 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 5: Tuesday and she couldn't get a test until Saturday when 144 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 5: she'd gone home and isolating help. That part is good. 145 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: But after the Melbourne Cup day when there was a 146 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 5: scare down from the noon humpty do pup' roe. When 147 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: and got tested at Marra, there was about three or 148 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 5: four stations open and the cars there wasn't many cars. 149 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: But then I hear in the last couple of days 150 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: it's only sit about one station open. So what's happened 151 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 5: in two. 152 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 4: Week there's three there's three spots, so it's. 153 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: Not just Marara. 154 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: We've got one open and I don't have an issue 155 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: and there's no lineup. So what we do is we 156 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: scale up and we scale down. So if there's a 157 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: lot of cars there, you're scaling up and if there's not, 158 00:06:58,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: your scale downs. 159 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 5: Because there was three hours away. I mean, I'm just 160 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 5: just commenting on that, but I mean the fact that 161 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: COVID has gone into one of our communities in the 162 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: Northern Territory was always going to be given, okay with 163 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 5: the government and all the resources and all the agencies 164 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: were trying to minimize, if not eliminate those risks. But 165 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: the risk has always been there. And I concur with 166 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 5: Jared a little bit. The risk has always been there 167 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 5: of COVID getting into an Aboriginal community or a remote community, 168 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 5: or even a cattle station for that matter that has 169 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: a lot of employees. So my question has always been 170 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: how was the government prepared or what were they doing 171 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 5: to address that risk and to actually know that it 172 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 5: will happen. Sadly, if anyone knows about risk assessment, and 173 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: now it is there, and of course you've got borrow 174 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 5: a little right next door. We know that those communities 175 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: are basically related in different shapes and forms in Aboriginal culture, 176 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: so I'd be interested in it. They don't obviously they 177 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: won't tell us, but you know what other measures are 178 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 5: being put in place to basically quarantine probably the what 179 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 5: they call the Big Rivers region now, because that's where 180 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 5: it's going from. Catherine is a huge hub for communities. 181 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: It goes east one way, and Kannanaro one way in 182 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: Queensland another way, and even just to cattle station people 183 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: like you know, I've had an example of cattle station 184 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 5: nearby and I don't know what the police were doing 185 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: or someone was doing. They were mustering and the police 186 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 5: rang up. The manager said, oh, they've got to wear 187 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: masks like they're mustering for goodness sake. A little bit 188 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 5: of common sense here so that they got an exemption. 189 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: But I'd like to know what kind of communication is 190 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: going out to cattle stations in the Catherine region, because 191 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 5: you can't have people on horses, you know, wearing masks 192 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: when it becomes actually a bit of a safety And 193 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 5: I actually we have better communication from government, and do 194 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 5: you know. 195 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: What, I don't actually think that it's just that communication 196 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,599 Speaker 1: in terms of out to the cattle stations, but I 197 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: actually feel as though there needs to be some better 198 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: communication across the board when it comes to what's happening 199 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: at the moment. 200 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: We obviously it's great. 201 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: When we hear from the Chief Minister every day, that's 202 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: a really good thing to have happened. We will expect 203 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: to do that between eleven and eleven thirty. But the 204 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: thing that I found really concerning earlier in the week 205 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: is we had a situation where we were no longer 206 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: able to have visitors up at the hospital. We had 207 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: that situation where the elective surgeries had been canceled. Yesterday 208 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: there was people waiting to shows test lines. 209 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: And which nothing was coming out. 210 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: But the thing was we were being told that we 211 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: couldn't speak to the Health Minister, we couldn't speak to 212 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: the Department of Health. And then we're learning, you know, 213 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: three hours after we'd been speaking to people on the 214 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: phone lines yesterday morning about those weight lines at the 215 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: test clinics, that a poster had gone up on nt 216 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: Health's Facebook page letting people know that, oh, you can 217 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: book in here, or you can book in here. To me, 218 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: that's just not good enough. 219 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: It's actually to be fit to. 220 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: Be community no notice. And they had three hundred people 221 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: rock and they had one person on the door. These 222 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: people are generally concerned about getting tests and they're doing 223 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: what they've been asked to go and get tested, and 224 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: yet there's no planning. 225 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,599 Speaker 6: Wasn't ready for it. You can't tell me. 226 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: You can't tell me that we finished finish. You can't 227 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: say that this has been not a clunky roll out. 228 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: The government's had time. They must have done some sort 229 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: of forward planning in relation to risk on how to 230 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 3: deal with the outbreaking an ember community, because it was 231 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: bound to happen, like Ca said earlier, But it's just 232 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 3: been a clunky roll out, and the messaging has been 233 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: really confusing and upsetting a lot of people. 234 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: Well, I think that you know, we're talking sitting up 235 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: in here in Darwin, and this outbreak has been in Catherine. 236 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 4: I think to be genuine we should talk to people 237 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 4: and Catherine about the messaging and talk of it's been 238 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: really quite an interesting and look, you know what government 239 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: learns from these things as well, because you might have 240 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: a really good plan in place and you'll find things 241 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: that need tweaking as you go along. And I think 242 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 4: that we've done that, and I think that we've done 243 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: it well. And I want to say thanks to all 244 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 4: those public servants because we have escalated people. I know 245 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 4: that within hours we had people heading down to Catherine 246 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 4: and teams. You know, they left their families and the 247 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: safety if in some ways of Darwin to head down 248 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: to Catherine to do that work. And there's some of 249 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 4: them are still there, and I think we have to 250 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 4: acknowledge that we had all those plans in place. But 251 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: when it comes to communication, Cay, do you know as 252 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: well as anyone else, there's so many different ways to 253 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 4: skin a cat. 254 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: Right, I know better than anybody else that if you 255 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: can send something out on Facebook, you can send it. 256 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: To all the different meaning that's going on. I think 257 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: I actually think it. 258 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 6: Essentially concerned, confusing and what are you doing about? 259 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm just going to do it all right. 260 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna calm everyone down for a second because 261 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: I want to make a point that's really clear. The 262 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: the I actually hats off to everybody on the ground 263 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: who's doing a phenomenal job in terms of the health 264 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: services rolling out to the likes of Catherine. What happened 265 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: out there in Robinson River in terms of people going 266 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: out to those communities is fantastic, and the work that's 267 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: happening on the ground is fantastic, phenomenal. But to me, 268 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: we're two months or we're two years just about into 269 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: this thing, and if we can't work out how to 270 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: actually get really clear and concise messaging out to the 271 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: community with the secondary things, so we know we're not 272 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, that messaging that's coming out from 273 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: the Chief Minister in the press conferences. I'm talking about 274 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: all that secondary stuff like the elective surgery, like the testing, 275 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: what you need. 276 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: To do if you're visiting the hospital. 277 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: That should be really common sense approach in my opinion, 278 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: and it should be even with the genomic testing yesterday 279 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: afternoon coming through and us learning that there is a 280 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: situation where it's obviously you know, we know that it's 281 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: all now linked. You know, we're then getting sent a 282 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: screenshot from NT Health's Facebook page as to what's going on. 283 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: I just think it needs to get a little bit 284 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: more streamlined. And I've said it right from the get go, 285 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: even with the COVID website right at the start, and 286 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: they did fix that up, it did become more streamlined. 287 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: But people need to know, like yesterday morning, we shouldn't 288 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: end up in a situation where the opposition is coming 289 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: on and communicating to people where the clinics are that 290 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: people can actually go to to get tested in Catherine 291 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: because we can't get anyone from the government. 292 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: But I think those details were in the Chiefness's announcement 293 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 4: yesterday and I think to talk to be really fair. 294 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: Every day there is a process and I think that 295 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: this is what I was saying before, everybody's tuned into 296 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: this process that every morning, the sense or you know, 297 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: that security group out of Cabinet, they meet every morning. 298 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 4: There's a process and things change on a daily basis, 299 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 4: and I think that there's so many different ways of communicating. 300 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm the Minister for Multicultural Affairs and I 301 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 4: know that you know early on we were facing some 302 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: challenges in there and what was and we've had to 303 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 4: work that through what's the best way to do that 304 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 4: and we've been working really strongly with Aboriginal communities about 305 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: that best way to communicate those messages. So whilst I 306 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: take your point Katie about communication, but the very first 307 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: priority coming out of those SEMPSEI meetings on a daily 308 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 4: basis has to be the people directly affected, and so 309 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: that messaging needs to be down there. And I think 310 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: we could go back and forth between each other, but 311 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: I actually think, you know, Jerry ed. You just said 312 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 4: I can do nothing. I'm in opposition. You are a 313 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: community leader and you have a responsibility stand up and 314 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 4: give a very strong message around these things, not just 315 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 4: snip from the sidelines constantly, which you do when you 316 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: come in here. And I know that out in your 317 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 4: community you are considered a leader. So let's let's all 318 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: just put this to bed and say it's all of 319 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: our responsibility to communicate this. There is a source of truth. 320 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 4: It comes out of sense on a daily basis, and 321 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: you know, we can go round and round with this, 322 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: and Katie, I take your points on board. But at 323 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 4: the same time, because this is a changing situation and 324 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: the people that are affected the most are the people 325 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: that it doesn't encain. 326 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: They are the ones who are calling us. Yesterday morning, 327 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: you couldn't get that message. 328 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: So that's the point I'm making. You make a point. 329 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: I hear what Kate says, and yes, as elected members, 330 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: we are we are seen as leaders and hopefully we 331 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 5: do lead our communities when when required. Now I have 332 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 5: been trying to lead my community, particularly the cambodings of 333 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: the Vietnamese. Now I wrote to the Health Minister nearly 334 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 5: a month and a half ago asking for the specific 335 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 5: messages to be put into language, and she wrote back 336 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: and said, yes, they're working on it now. I presume 337 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 5: it's the Multicultural Department or the Interpreter Service, one or 338 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 5: the other. 339 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 4: They were done six months ago. 340 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: Well they haven't been set out to me. Now, how 341 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 5: can I lead my community? The Minister said I would 342 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: get the information, and I still don't have the information. Look, 343 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: most of the communities, the Cambodians, the Vietnamese and all 344 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: those communities that work out in the rural are they 345 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 5: can't speak English, you know, and they speak pretty good English, 346 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 5: but sometimes it just helps if it's in their first language. 347 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 5: Like we always talked about admissinal people in their first 348 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: language and putting things into language for them. So why 349 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 5: isn't the Minister Elder Department, I should say, why an't 350 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: they getting it out to people like me and Jared 351 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 5: and the lever for Daily who have farmers in their 352 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 5: electric Because these farmers are very mobile, they help each 353 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: other and they travel around a lot. And the Farmer's 354 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: Association is setting out briefs to communities because the farms 355 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: between Darwin and Catherine obviously very LinkedIn you know, some 356 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 5: people have farms everywhere. So come back to the community, 357 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: come back to communication. I'm trying to do the best 358 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: for my community, but I'm not getting information out of government. 359 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: On all right. 360 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: No, they haven't. 361 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 5: They have not to the cambonas in my community. They 362 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 5: have not because I know the leaders in the community 363 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 5: and they haven't got. 364 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 6: Talking about me in a leader. 365 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: People in my area in how D talked to me 366 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: about being confused about the mixed messaging. We want you 367 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: to come in sand and so I come here on 368 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: radio and talk to you and talk to Kater directly 369 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: about this and I get bag for it is It 370 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: really goes back to the government. 371 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 6: We try and to do our job at the government. 372 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: I do think at this point in time, we're obviously 373 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: in a situation that we've never been in it before. 374 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: And I understand that there is a lot of confusing 375 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: things going on classes well and look, but in a 376 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: lot of ways they are, you know, like I at 377 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: the moment there is I think it is a good 378 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: thing when obviously we hear from the Chief Minister each 379 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: day about exactly what's. 380 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: Going on and get those updates. But anyway, we will 381 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: take a very short break. 382 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: There is a lot to cover off still this morning 383 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: you are listening to Mix one O four point nine. 384 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: It is the week that was. All right, it's twenty 385 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: five minutes after nine o'clock. 386 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: You are listening to the week that was in the 387 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: studio with us this morning Jered Maylee, Keesi Epuric and 388 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: Kate Warden. And there is a lot to cover off 389 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: on and obviously we've just spoken about the cluster that's 390 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: been seen and is still still a real concern at 391 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: this point in Catherine and Robinson River. Now we are 392 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: expecting to hear from the Chief Minister, Michael Gunner today 393 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: between eleven and eleven thirty hopefully, and we will bring 394 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: that press conference to you live right here on three 395 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: point sixty. In a bit of a development this morning, 396 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: we know that the Northern Territory Government has unveiled these 397 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: rapid antigen testing and distribution points as travel restrictions come 398 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: into effect for remote communities with those vaccination rates below 399 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: seventy percent. So top end testing and distribution points are 400 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: going to be located at the Royal Darwin Hospital, the 401 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: Pandemic Clinic there in Alice Springs, at the Pandemic Coordination 402 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Center and will be located at forty four Bath Street, 403 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: so that's the one in Alice at this point in time. Basically, 404 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: those negative rapid antigen test results are required seventy two 405 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: hours or less for anyone who intends to travel to 406 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: a remote community with a first dose vaccination rate below 407 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: seventy percent. So essentially my understanding of it is, and 408 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: happy for you to correct me, Cater if I'm wrong, 409 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: is that if you do need to go out into 410 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: one of those one of those communities where the vax 411 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: rate is under seventy percent, you need to make sure 412 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: that you go and get one of those rapid antigen tests. 413 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: If it comes back negative, you're good to go. 414 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely if it does. Be a practical example of that. 415 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: In my agency, you know, we do some child protection 416 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: work and we've got Strengthening Families workers that go out 417 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: in and out to communities all the time, working with 418 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 4: individual families to keep families together because we know that 419 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 4: that's the best outcome for kids. So they might go 420 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: in and out regularly, but it probably is not practical 421 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: for them to have a test on a daily basis 422 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 4: going in and out, So how do you do that 423 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: so they will be This is the work that's going ahead. 424 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: You talk about getting prepared, this is about being prepared 425 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: for that work. We knew a few weeks ago that 426 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 4: this is where we were stepping out to. So once 427 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 4: we had all that data from the federal government, we're 428 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: able to understand and from the Aboriginal community organizations that 429 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 4: have been doing the vaccines about the VACCA rates any 430 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: communities now that less than seventy percent, as you rightly said, 431 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: if you're heading into that public service, not even just 432 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 4: public services for businesses as well. So we've got people 433 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: working in the NDEs, for example, in that caring space 434 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: that go in and out and support people on the 435 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: NDEs in remote This is how we get those testing 436 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: kits to them, and that that's that whole reporting regime 437 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: you'd get, you know, the business or an individual would 438 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: get that test kit from that distribution site and that's 439 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: where they thea's back and forth, getting that the test 440 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: results back and forth so that they're clear to go. 441 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know there'll be a lot of people 442 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: listening this morning who obviously do need to make sure 443 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: that they're able to do this to be able to 444 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: get those test results, who work out in the communities 445 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: for various reasons, whether like you said, it's part of Yeah, 446 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: that's right, whether it's you know, whether it's an employee 447 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: of the NT government, the federal government, or private contractors. 448 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: So there is certainly going to be quite quite a 449 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: few people I would anticipate too. Yeah, who are going 450 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: to have to use this facility? 451 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: So what about the private contractors? 452 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: To people going out, they've got to go to the 453 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: facility first to get the test and then go out, 454 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: how do they they have a result in their pocket 455 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: where they asked by the police. I don't understand the 456 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: rules how that all works. Maybe caken it and some of. 457 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: It's going to be I think technically done. So you'll 458 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 4: have it on your phone for results, and you have 459 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: to be able to provide that probably on entry at 460 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: the community. 461 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 6: Most of these community don't have reception when you go 462 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 6: in there, how they I. 463 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 2: Think, I've got to do it, don't You have to 464 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: do it before you go in. 465 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: But if you get pulled up by the police on 466 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 3: the way in and after your negative test, how did 467 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: that work? 468 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: So I think you've got to have a photo of 469 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: it and then you show it on the phone, is 470 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: my understanding. 471 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 4: But yeah, so Whilst you can't get that connectivity there, 472 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 4: you can still see all your text messages and some 473 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: of that will be done by SMS, so you'll get 474 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 4: your test results via SMS and even though you might 475 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 4: not have forg you can still show it. 476 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: So you've got to go one of these locations to 477 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: get the test out the location. 478 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 6: You can't just fight it online and you get a. 479 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 4: Bulk amount from that. We need to know who's going 480 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 4: who's not, So your business or an individual would go 481 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 4: to that place and be registered as someone and you 482 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: would perhaps pick up maybe it would be once a 483 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 4: week for your workers. This is getting ahead of the 484 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: game and making sure that we can continue to get 485 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: and it. 486 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: Is just one of those things that really needs to 487 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: start happening, these evolving situations that were sort of going 488 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: through in the territory at the moment, in order well 489 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: to hopefully get to the point where we're able to 490 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: travel freely around Australia again from the Northern Territory. And 491 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: I know that I certainly want to be able to travel, 492 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of concern at the moment, and 493 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: there has been for some time about whether it is 494 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: going to happen and how this home quarantine trial is going. 495 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: I know Kezier and Jared, this is something that you've 496 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: both raised to this on the show before. 497 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 5: Well, because I've had another a constituent, a mother and 498 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 5: a daughter in Howdspring, because I had the emergency go 499 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: down to Melbourne. Now she lives on five acres at Humptydoo. 500 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: And you know, if there's any a good place to quarantine, 501 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 5: it's usually on rural properties because they're generally five plus acres. 502 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 5: Often they have a grandy flat of things of that nature. Now, 503 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 5: I know that the government's made this ruling that the 504 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 5: community or the locality in local government has to have 505 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 5: eighty percent vaccination rate, and I guess that's the rule 506 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 5: that I've made. But then the four G. But as 507 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 5: I've said before, this shown also the Minister's aware of it. 508 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: Minister for Health is the rul air struggles to get 509 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 5: four G through. No one's particularly fault, not Telsa's fault 510 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: or anyone. But so they've said they'll look at wi fi, 511 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 5: but I haven't heard back whether the WiFi is going 512 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 5: to be suitable. Now, the woman in Howard Springs and 513 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 5: her daughter are both vaccinated. Fully, they're just having a 514 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 5: nice boring time there, but they could be on their 515 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 5: property doing many for the kids are high school student, 516 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 5: so she could be back at school or even schooling 517 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 5: from home. So there needs to be a little bit 518 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 5: of flexibility because they're taking up two beds, they're costing 519 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 5: obviously government and using up resources. And there's people like her, 520 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 5: And I've had other people who want to come back 521 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: from men to state to home quarantine at Marachai, But 522 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 5: of course Marico is not in a local government area, 523 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: but the Minister has said miss for Health that that 524 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 5: locality has to have exclanation of it. 525 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 4: But we're still in the pilot phase two Keasier, so 526 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 4: I think they are choosing people and testing it through 527 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: to make sure we get it right. 528 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 5: I think accepted the list she's asked them. 529 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 4: So we've always said it's not you don't can't put 530 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 4: your hand up. We are picking people as they've gone 531 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: through that it's been that way from the start, it 532 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: or not, that's the way we've done this pilot. So 533 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: at the end of the pilot we will have probably 534 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: tested a range of scenarios with different people in different places. 535 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: And I think that you know you've got to allow 536 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: that to happen. People were getting ahead here. We're not 537 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: to the point that we said that we would allow 538 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 4: home quarantine. We're very close to it now, and when 539 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: that comes, we'll have had the pilot under and we'll 540 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 4: know how it works. And there are issues that obviously 541 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: you've raised that they're around four G. That's something that 542 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 4: we're working through, and those things take time because it's 543 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 4: not you know, we've been battling, i know, for the 544 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: last five years, talking with the federal government, talking with 545 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: bodies like tell Stra to get you know, four G 546 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 4: and and those sorts of services are into remote communities 547 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 4: in the rural area. So all of that's really important, 548 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 4: and it's now coming to the fore how important those 549 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 4: you know, those arguments have been and those services. So 550 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 4: there's going to be limitations. I don't think I think 551 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: we should all be quite a matter of fact about that. 552 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 4: Not everybody's going to be able to hone quarantine. And 553 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: I think that's you know, it's going to be good 554 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: for some and it's and it's not going to sue others. 555 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that for everybody in the rural area. 556 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: But these are the practicalities of it, and that's why 557 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 4: you do a pilot. But you've got. 558 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: Pilots, but you finish next Tuesday, the twenty third. We 559 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 3: don't even know how many people think there's been toil 560 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: between forty and fifty. So when are the results in 561 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 3: the this pilot going to come out? 562 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 4: Three weeks ago? Jered, what are the numbers till next 563 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 4: week when the pilot's finished, When. 564 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 6: You're going to tell us the results? 565 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: Why an you tell us nowsing. 566 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: The politics for a second? Hang on a second. 567 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: Goodness, Now, I think the concern is going to be 568 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: is that everybody just wants to make sure that it 569 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: has been successful, so that for you know, so that 570 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: people are able to actually home quarantine, like we do 571 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: want to all get to the point where we're either 572 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: able to home quarantine or not actually needing to quarantine, 573 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: where we're just getting tested. And this is one of 574 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: the other things that I'd wandered throughout the week. We 575 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: know that plenty of people have needed to be tested. 576 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: In fact, numerous people have been out to be tested. 577 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: We know that they had massive numbers over the last 578 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: couple of days two around the place, which is a 579 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: great thing. But are we like, do we know if 580 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: there has been how the testing has gone when it 581 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: does come to this home quarantine trial, because it is 582 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: incredibly extensive, it's something like it's sevent tests that people 583 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: need to get. 584 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: It's important, Katie, that we actually let the trial finish 585 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 4: and then you can look at the data and then 586 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 4: you can convert that into the proper program. You don't 587 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 4: get halfway through a pilot and start second getting the 588 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 4: figures and go, oh, you know, we're three quarters the 589 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 4: way through, three days left. You do actually, well, in 590 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: three days time you'll know the answer. 591 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 6: Gen promise the results. 592 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 4: Your proposition is. 593 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: Ridiculous, right, we've definitely gone off tracks, so I might 594 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: take a very kesy you wanted to say something quickly. 595 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 5: No, it's probably were a question and probably won't have 596 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 5: an answer straight away, but maybe it's something that we 597 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 5: can find out. I've got or have constituents who have 598 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 5: been sent into state under the pet scheme. They've had 599 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 5: to go down Southport. 600 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. 601 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 5: Sydney and Melbourne. 602 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: That is the patient assistant. 603 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 5: So they've had to go down south to get treatment, 604 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 5: but then trying to come home. Yeah, there's a problem. 605 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: They need to quarantine at the moment under the current yeah. 606 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 5: And which is really tough and it's vaccinated, they've just 607 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: got something else for them. 608 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 4: But we may move to that home quarantine easier and 609 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 4: then they you know, then then you they come in 610 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: under that scheme. So that's why we need to move it. 611 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: I mean, it's exactly what you're saying. Your point is made, 612 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: because essentially we need to move to a home quarantine. 613 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: But if we look into state and we see the 614 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: mess with hotel quarantines and all those sorts of things, 615 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 4: let's just let's just do this right, people, and let's 616 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: be patient for three days and get it right so 617 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 4: that people like that can home quarantine. 618 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: Well, let's take a very short break. You are listening 619 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: to Mix Swallow four point nine. It is the week 620 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: that was also broadcasting on EIGHTHA. It is twenty minutes 621 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: away from ten o'clock. You are listening to the week 622 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: that was Kate Warden, Keesy Epuric and Jared Mayley all 623 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: in the. 624 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: Studio with us this morning. 625 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Now we know that earlier in the week, obviously the 626 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: vaccine mandate kicked in and the Northern Territory government revealed 627 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: how much of its workforce was unvaccinated following the introduction 628 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: of that wide ranging vaccine mandate, so it really kicked 629 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: in on Saturday or at midnight last Friday night. We 630 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: know that more than ninety seven percent of public servants 631 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: are vaccinated, the Chief Minister had said earlier in the week, 632 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: and the government has said that fourteen out of the 633 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: seventeen one hundred police members have vaccinated. We also know 634 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: I think there was about sixty odd nurses or maybe 635 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: sixty five who weren't vaccinated, but it did seem as 636 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: though the large majority had been vaccinated. So approximately seven 637 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: hundred public servants out of the twenty two thousand or 638 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: three percent of the public service did end up vaccinated. 639 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: We also, on Monday had caught up with the Chamber 640 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: of Commerce, we spoke to Hospitality, we'd spoken to the 641 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: Master builders and tried to get a better gauge. I 642 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: think of just how many of those stuff had been 643 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: vaccinated and whether there was much pushback. 644 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: And I know that there is certainly still pushback, there 645 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: is no doubt about that. 646 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: But I think that that it maybe didn't have as 647 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: big an impact as what some were expecting come Monday, 648 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: when everybody went to go to work. 649 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 4: So in our agency, there's been no interruption to the 650 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 4: services that we're delivering. There have been a small amount 651 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 4: of people that have been given the notice as obviously 652 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: legalities for whether it's private business or its public service 653 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: that need to be stepped through in terms of that, 654 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 4: but I think it's been very clear, and you know, 655 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: I think whilst we can talk about the three percent, 656 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 4: I think we should probably spend some time talking about 657 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: the ninety seven percent because I challenged people in my 658 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: electorate and you know, it'll be interesting to hear the 659 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: feedback from these two today. But conversation with a guy 660 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: and I said, you know, this isn't about me. I've 661 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: got a three year old and a five year old 662 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 4: grandson at home that can't be vaccinated. I've got other 663 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: people in my community that can't be vaccinated. I got 664 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 4: vaccinated for them. And that's that's what's really really important, 665 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: because it's actually one of those things I remember when 666 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: I was a kid, you know, I remember polio as 667 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 4: an issue and people just literally rolled up got the jab. 668 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 4: That's the way that the world is, and I know 669 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 4: that certainly in my community, I got vaccinated for people 670 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 4: that can't. And that's I think that's what we have 671 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 4: to think about because when you know, we've seen the 672 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: last week COVID arrive in the Northern Territory and those 673 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: young people, my grandsons are not are not protected. So 674 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: we have to take that spot and do that. And 675 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: I just want to say to the ninety seven percent 676 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 4: of public servants and I think it's over ninety five percent, 677 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 4: and that number will come in. It will come slower 678 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 4: and slow. We saw huge take up in the last 679 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 4: few days in Catherine. When people really realize and it 680 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: comes home, you know in the Psyche to Roost that 681 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 4: this is this is not about us as individuals. This 682 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: is about us as a community. 683 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: And there are some great people doing well, not just 684 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: the public service. You know, you've seen businesses around the territory. 685 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: You've seen different industries around the territory really try to 686 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, they have sort of all gone out there 687 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: the large majority and being vaccinated. I know there's still hesitancy. 688 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: I know that there's still people who are worried. I've 689 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: spoken to business people on this show about their concerns. 690 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I understand that and I understand that it is having 691 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: an impact on some of those businesses as well. But 692 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: the large majority, even when you look at the numbers, 693 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: do seem to have gone and ended up going to 694 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: get the back. 695 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: Statty, yeah, I can cuve. It's not about you getting 696 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: the back thin. Its about I've got a young family, 697 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: I've got friends who can't get it. So it's about 698 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 3: the wider community here. Could you remember if there's an 699 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: outbreak and our intensive care unit is full, what happens 700 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: if Cad and I are driving around the road and 701 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: we have a car crash and one of us need 702 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: to go to hospital and need intensive care. They're not 703 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 3: going to take someone off and it tends yet to 704 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 3: put us on, So it would just be put out 705 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 3: and say, well we're full, so hopefully you live. So 706 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: it's about the wider community. So in my advice is 707 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: go and get the jab. I was talking to a 708 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: chemist and he said, oh, people say to you, we 709 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: don't know what's in the needle. Well, you don't know 710 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 3: what's in most of medication you take. You you don't 711 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 3: even know where to take your panantole, what's really in it? 712 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: So he just said, these doctors, medical science has has 713 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: progressed a lot. It's safe it's been proven. There's been 714 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: what five million deaths across the world, So we really 715 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: need to go and get the JAB. 716 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 6: But it really needs to go. 717 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: Back to the planning here. We've had a mandate, it's 718 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 3: come and gone. We're not at the level where we 719 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: need to be. So my question is to the government, 720 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: what is the plan to progress the mandate, progress the 721 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 3: vaccine rate. 722 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 6: You can keep it moving forward, what is the plan? 723 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 4: I think you can see yesterday the information I sought 724 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: this morning around Robinson River is they're just about hit 725 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 4: one hundred percent, if not if having hits on hundred percent. 726 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: So I think you can see that when something like 727 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: this happens, it does get people to come out. I 728 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 4: think we just need to keep going with that messaging. 729 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 4: I think, as I said before, as local leaders, we 730 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: need to stand up and keep saying that people get 731 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: Vaccinatum really pleased to hear you say that, Jared to 732 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: this morning, and I will ask though you know, Katie 733 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 4: and Jered you've both got younger kids and I've got 734 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 4: I think, is it these days you can't even put 735 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 4: your kids in childcare without the vaccination? 736 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: Well yes, so for. 737 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: Yes, for normal, for your normal vaccines your children if 738 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: you want to get the childcare rebate, or this was 739 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: the case where mine was still at childcare, if you 740 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: want to get the childcare rebait, or your children have 741 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: to be fully vaccinated. 742 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: There's nothing, it's not. 743 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: But what I have wondered is, you know, with some 744 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: people who are vaccine hesitant and this is or with 745 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: some who are refusing to get the vaccine, And this 746 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: is something I asked the Chief Minister about a few 747 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Obviously mandating it for businesses, mandating it for 748 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: public servants, mandating it for everybody that is in those 749 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: jobs where they're outward facing, but do we realistically, and 750 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: I know Matt Cunningham spoken to us about this as well, 751 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: does there need to be some kind of link with 752 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: the vaccine mandate to you know, to your childcare rebate? 753 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: And I know that that's a federal issue, or to 754 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: something else. 755 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 4: Clink, that's a federal issue. They could fall that later 756 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 4: if they wanted to. But well, they're a bit on 757 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 4: the fence by that, you know. That's that's sort of 758 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: the disappointing thing. Federally, they've been a bit on the fence, 759 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: I think, and that is a big leaver. They could 760 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: pull if you want to if you want to receive 761 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 4: center Link, you have to do that night. 762 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: Do you reckon that that would be a good thing? 763 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely? I supported one hundred percent. But I also think 764 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 4: the thing is is when we first started out with 765 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: the vaccines, there was an awful lot of people to 766 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 4: get the messaging across to. What's happened is over time, 767 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: you know, we're now reducing to those people that are 768 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: I think it's resistant now, not hesitant moving into that space, 769 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 4: but it does. The numbers are now getting so small 770 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 4: that we can start having that one on one and approaches, 771 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 4: and so you do change how you do things. So 772 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 4: I do know that you know, we've had public housing 773 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: people going out with health professionals door to door because 774 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: the numbers are coming down now that we actually can 775 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: start doing that more targeted, you know, to the smaller groups. 776 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: You know. 777 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: So we were talking about multiculturals before last week I 778 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: met with them cultural my advisory council. We identified that 779 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: there's a couple of communities that we maybe need to 780 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 4: do some more work with. Between here and other springs, 781 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: we can now really do some really targeted almost one 782 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 4: on ones with those communities to get them over So 783 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 4: your strategies change over time according to your numbers. And 784 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: I think now we're really getting to some numbers that 785 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 4: are allowing what I know now we are getting to 786 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 4: those numbers that allow us to do that. So, you know, Katie, 787 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 4: I think the realistic thing is there are also going 788 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 4: to be people out there that just will not get 789 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 4: it no matter what we do, and so I think 790 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: that's about the consequences of their decision. So, Jered, you 791 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 4: made the point your child can't be able, can't be vaccinated. 792 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 4: They go in you know, can't be vaccinated because they're 793 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: too young or kada or whatever, that they really should 794 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: get priority treatment over somebody that chooses not in a 795 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: hospital system to do that. And they're the consequences. You 796 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 4: won't be able to go to base in the glass 797 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 4: next to you unless you're vaccinated, So the consequences are coming. 798 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 6: And I think so just goes back to that planning. 799 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 3: And you mentioned earlier that Robin's run one hundred percent, 800 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: but I say it's too late once there's an outbreak. 801 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 6: To go in there and start vaccinating Jared. 802 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: But there now there one hundred percent of picking up 803 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: on that about the other communities which are less than 804 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 3: thirty percent, what's the plan to get those people? And 805 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 3: what's in the rural area to get that eighty percent too, 806 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 3: so we can have the home quarantine. 807 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 6: What is the plan? That's my question I'm asking. I'm 808 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 6: not getting your answers at all. 809 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 5: The other question I've got is, let's assume the community 810 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 5: gets to We'll never get one hundred percent vaccinated. That's 811 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 5: just a given. But what happens when we get to 812 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 5: the say, in the nineties, is the mandate going to go? 813 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 5: It was this mandate with us forever a good point 814 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 5: I think. 815 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: I think Alex Bruce mentioned that he was asking that question. 816 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: It can't be here forever. I think common sense there's 817 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: not going to be forever. So what does the plan 818 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: to get us to eighty or ninety percent? And then 819 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: what's the plan after that? So that forward thinking, because. 820 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: We also go and get our flu shot each year. 821 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 4: I don't know about any of you, but I certainly 822 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 4: get my flu shot each year, and I think that's 823 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: where we'll move to. That's that will be as It is. 824 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: One thing I do want to ask because it is 825 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: something that we keep getting asked on the text line 826 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: this morning and on other day case with some public servants, 827 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: are they still being allowed to go to work but 828 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: work from home? No? 829 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 4: So the legalities are my understanding as I asked this 830 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: question yesterday of my agency, and more broadly, is that 831 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 4: last Friday, was that the end date. All of those 832 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 4: people have been issued issues letters of an intention to terminate. 833 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 4: You have to go through a legal process. So everybody's 834 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 4: got a legal entitlement to whatever it is you get. 835 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 4: But those people have been told the intention is to terminate. 836 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 4: But there is I've or they've been told they're being terminated. 837 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 5: I'm not intended in case where a particular person is 838 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 5: a data analyst and they don't feed any of the 839 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 5: criteria put into the Chose directive. I think it's number 840 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 5: fifty one that you know, if you've come in touch 841 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 5: with vulnerable people, you have come into touch with people generally, 842 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera. Now this person falls completely out 843 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 5: of the directive of the Chose direction as to mandate vaccines. 844 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 5: So why does that person have to get mandated vaccine 845 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 5: when she clearly falls outside of the direction. 846 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 6: And that's a public it. 847 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 5: No, she's a public servant and I'm trying to assist her. 848 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 5: But so there are to be there are going to 849 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: be exemptions, and there are going to be sort of 850 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: special cases. So from what I'm reading, and I've read 851 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 5: it and I've spoken to her, and I've spoken to 852 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 5: other people, it's not going to be a full blanket 853 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 5: across the public service because there are some people in 854 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 5: some job somewhere like a dieta analysis analysis, who don't 855 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 5: have anything to do with anyone and they're just in 856 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 5: the back block somewhere. So that person can work from home, 857 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 5: for example, and they probably could and should still stay 858 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 5: on the books because according to the Chose Directive, they 859 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 5: do not fall under that banner. So I'll just leave 860 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 5: it there and I'll just taken up with the government later. 861 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: All right, we are going to take a very short break. 862 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine 863 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: three sixty. 864 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 2: It is the week that was. 865 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: It is just a couple of minutes away from ten o'clock, 866 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: just about it for us this morning on the Week 867 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: that was Kate Warden, Keesy Epuric and Jared Maylee. Now, 868 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, we know that the police had 869 00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: an unbelievably busy week. There was particularly a night where 870 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,840 Speaker 1: they are incredibly busy, called out to so many different incidents. 871 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: There was numerous terrible domestic violence incidents. 872 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: There was a person who was allegedly murdered in Malac. 873 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: Now we have also had really a call out from 874 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: the Police Commissioner Jamie Chalker. It's a message to protesters 875 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: under what has been such a busy time, I think 876 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: for the police to take a listen to what he'd 877 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: said earlier in the week. 878 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 7: My people cann't be distracted. So to any of you 879 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 7: who have been involved in protests, any of you who 880 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 7: are involved in any action, please do not be a 881 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 7: distraction of my people. You are going to place the 882 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 7: lives of vulnerable territorians at risk. 883 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 6: Just take some time, be. 884 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 7: More community minded, hold your peace until we get out 885 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 7: of the mask mandate, until we get out of these lockdowns, 886 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 7: and then resume your activities lawfully. I can't be bothered 887 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 7: dealing with your rubbish in the interim. 888 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 1: There is just too much at stake, and I've got 889 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: so I think that the police have been incredibly busy. 890 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: There is no doubt about that. We as have all 891 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: our health authorities and everybody. But then when you add 892 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: to that all the other issues that they're also dealing with, 893 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: I think that it's fair enough for the Police commissioner 894 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: to issue that, you know, to issue that that plea 895 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: really to protesters if they are planning on getting out 896 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: on the weekend. 897 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 6: Look, I agree completely Cudding. 898 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: I completely agree that people have got a right to 899 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: protest and support that, but they need to do it lawfully. 900 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: But is now the time to do it? We were 901 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: in a pandemic, there's no question about that. People are 902 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 3: getting sick. The police are doing a great job out 903 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 3: there in really tough conditions. It's hot, it's humored, it's raining, 904 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: it's not raining. So I really feel for the police. 905 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 3: And now it's not the time to protest, and I 906 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 3: really agree. 907 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 6: I had to say. 908 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 5: I mean, we live in a free society. 909 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 6: When it's the right time, and it's not not today. 910 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 6: Right now, it's not the right time. 911 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 5: And look, if people want to protest, I agree with 912 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 5: Jared and Kate. We know that you can protest in 913 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 5: this country and that's that's a li tea that we 914 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 5: enjoy and we hopefully will continue to enjoy. But do 915 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 5: it in accordance with the rules of the community. You know, 916 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 5: if the police say don't walk on the road, we 917 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 5: don't walk on the bloody road. If I get a permit, 918 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 5: and if you want to, if you want to protest 919 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 5: outside Parliament House, it's not too hard to get a 920 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 5: permit from the Speaker's office. As long as you do, 921 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 5: it's just a piece of paper. You've got a sign 922 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,959 Speaker 5: that you're not going to trash the joint. 923 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 4: But as often a lady sitting outside Parliament House and 924 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 4: she continues to progress from Jacob, then you know, we 925 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 4: all go past and chatter and she's but she has permission, 926 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 4: But good on her. She does it peacefully. She engages 927 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 4: with you, but she doesn't scream at you and all 928 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 4: of those other things. But I think, you know, we'll 929 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 4: all agree it's been very difficult to go in and 930 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 4: out of Parliament House and get on with our jobs 931 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: on a daily basis over the last sort of month 932 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 4: or so. But do it. I think we've all got 933 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 4: the right to protest. I've been through to a few 934 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 4: protests over the last ten years or so for different things, 935 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 4: and I think it's pest called and it's a part 936 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 4: of our freedom and do it in accordance with the law. 937 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 4: Don't take up our police resources. These guys are doing 938 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 4: a fantastic job and they just need to be able 939 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 4: to do their job unfettered. And it's exactly the same. 940 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 4: You know, if you've got people in your family at 941 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 4: the moment and you know that they're committing crimes, you 942 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: know therese people out there doing things wrong in your 943 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 4: immediate sphere. If you're working with someone that's committing dovest 944 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 4: at vioance, let's as a community stand up and stop it. 945 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 4: Stand there and say no more of this rubbish and 946 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 4: let's get on. We've got some bigger things on our 947 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 4: agenda at the moment, and our community together needs to 948 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 4: face them. 949 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 5: I've got a bright note. I've got a bright because 950 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 5: we're about would you like to tell us ca to meme. 951 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 5: In College has taken out the national Small Trainer of 952 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 5: the Year awards Territory not Northern Territory. They are nomination. 953 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 5: In College is on the national stage. And big congrats 954 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: to the laurels and heavily Rati the chairman, so hearly 955 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 5: the principle and all the students and the teachers and 956 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 5: the farm and You've got a nice connection through to 957 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 5: Sanders and Middle School because last year or. 958 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 4: Those training, it's making the work. No, they set up 959 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 4: they helped set up the VET programs at Senderson because 960 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 4: they're amazing trainers. 961 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 5: It goes to show that, you know, like not every 962 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 5: student is destined to go down the line of physics 963 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 5: and chemistry and become a signers. So but VET is 964 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 5: so important. It really farm is just brilliant. 965 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: So well, I'm wonderful. 966 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: Congratulations to Tom min that's fantastic stuff. 967 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: That is a really nice note to end on. 968 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: Jared Mayley, the Deputy Opposition Leader, thanks so much for 969 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: your time this morning. 970 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 6: Thank you, Katie, Thank you listeners, the. 971 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 5: Independent member for going to thank you Hello, Malan Lenne listening. 972 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: Thank Kate Warden, the Minister for Territory, Families and Urban Housing. 973 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time today. 974 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 4: It was a pleasure to be one. Thank you. 975 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: It is just a couple of moments away from ten o'clock. 976 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Mix one oh four point nine