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Speaker 1: As you've heard about throughout the week, we know that

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Speaker 1: some expectant mums have been driving to Catherine to go

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Speaker 1: and get their scans because they've not actually been able

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Speaker 1: to book in for them here in Darwen and Palmerston.

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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line from Catherine Diagnostic Imaging,

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Speaker 1: Phil Yasishan.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Phil.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are you? Yeah, really good, Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for your time this morning. Now, Phil, I understand that

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Speaker 1: you own Catherine Diagnostic Imaging, but you're also a sonographer yourself,

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Speaker 1: aren't you.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, So tell me.

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Speaker 1: Have you had an increase of pregnant mums from Darwen

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Speaker 1: and Palmerston coming.

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Speaker 2: To Catherine Probably for a little while.

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Speaker 3: We've probably got about ten a week, but it's nothing new.

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Speaker 3: We've probably over the last I've been up here twelve

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Speaker 3: years now, just in different times over that period when

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Speaker 3: we'll have people coming for cts or I'll just sounds

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Speaker 3: if it's too busy in Catherine Dawn.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so people not only traveling up like not

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Speaker 1: only expectant mums, but even even those that maybe need

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Speaker 1: a CT scan or other types of scans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that has in the past but just normal

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Speaker 3: other old sounds. People come up to you as well,

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Speaker 3: and often it's been where they can't get into Darwin

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Speaker 3: and they've got a family that even Catherin and they

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Speaker 3: just say, oh, why don't you come here and get

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Speaker 3: it done. But now we've got the capacity to do

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Speaker 3: more if we needed, So that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I know it might be difficult sometimes

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Speaker 1: for people to be able to sort of make that trip,

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Speaker 1: but at least if that service is available in Catherine,

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Speaker 1: and if you're able to do that, it's an option.

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Speaker 3: Well, I s'pose that's one thing that people in Catherine

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Speaker 3: we don't think twice about. If we need an MRI

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Speaker 3: or a mammogram, we have to go to Darwin. And

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Speaker 3: until I started CET ten years ago, every patient of

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Speaker 3: CT had to go to Darwin. So for us, don't

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Speaker 3: we just take a pinch of salt? Yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: it is it's a shame that they can't get done,

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Speaker 3: but we're happy to do them up here.

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Speaker 2: Now. Tell us. I mean, can you shed any light

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Speaker 2: on why it might be happening?

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Speaker 3: There's always a shortage of sort of staff in all

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Speaker 3: businesses right now, but sonography takes a while to train summonough,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not sure how many trainee positions are up

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Speaker 3: in Darwen, so how many people they're training but also

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Speaker 3: retaining people. And there seems to be a trend where

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Speaker 3: some people these days are opting more just for working

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Speaker 3: locums instead of full time, so they'll come up somewhere

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Speaker 3: for four weeks or six weeks, but that costs you

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Speaker 3: so much more and it's not really viable. Often you

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Speaker 3: can't run a business of locums. So it's like everything,

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Speaker 3: we just need more staff. And it's a long process

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Speaker 3: because i'd the very hands on course and it takes

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Speaker 3: sort of two years of scanning and studying to be qualified.

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Speaker 2: There you go. And so from your perspective.

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Speaker 3: So that's hard to having undergraduate first of course.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which takes it which takes a long period of

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Speaker 1: time as well. Yeah, Now, now tell me in terms

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Speaker 1: of you know, for you, obviously you own the business.

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Speaker 1: You are a sonographer, so I guess you're able to

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Speaker 1: manage those staff shortages. But is it just you or

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Speaker 1: have you got other staff as well? And how difficult

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Speaker 1: have you found it to fill some of those jobs.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm actually quite well staffed right now. I've worked

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Speaker 3: this week because one of my girls has been on

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Speaker 3: holidays and then flight's got canceled. But I wasn't going

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Speaker 3: to be working a week this week, so we're well staffed.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, cool. I've got two qualified snographers in quiding

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Speaker 3: myself and two training snographers.

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Speaker 2: Yep and Phil tell Us.

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Speaker 1: You know, as a sonographer and as somebody who is

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Speaker 1: obviously you know, doing these scans for pregnant women and

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of the urgencies with the nucle scan,

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Speaker 3: which needs to be done between eleven and fourteen weeks,

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Speaker 3: is a window there, and if you're outside that window

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Speaker 3: that measurements make matter don't mean anything. So this is

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Speaker 3: when they're looking for bounced in room and a few

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Speaker 3: other things. So you know, often you don't actually find

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Speaker 3: out you're pregnant until you know you're nine ten weeks.

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Speaker 3: Then you go see the doctor and it's like, okay,

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Speaker 3: well you need this scan done. And then if you

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Speaker 3: well that puts you at sixteen weeks. So you're outside

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Speaker 3: of that of that window, so then you can't do

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Speaker 1: So and then yeah, and I mean that would that

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Speaker 1: would create some concerns for some expectant months, particularly when

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Speaker 1: it's your first time maybe having a bum.

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Speaker 3: Well true, but even it's more as you get older,

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Speaker 3: there's a higher risk of these these different things. But

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Speaker 3: also your morphology scan is normally done at eighteen twenty weeks. Again,

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Speaker 3: if you find your full you're pregnant late, then by

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Speaker 3: the time you book in it could be twenty two

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Speaker 3: to twenty three weeks. It's not always the ideal time.

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Speaker 3: But we get people come down for other old sounds too,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a work injury and they can't get in earlier.

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Speaker 3: They just want to find it what's on their shold

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Speaker 3: or their risk or or whatever it be. I don't

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Speaker 3: think it'sest obstetrics, but is a larger part of it

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Speaker 3: because there's an urgency at that time deadline.

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Speaker 1: And so from your perspective, you know, there hasn't been

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Speaker 1: like a huge increase this year. It is just something

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Speaker 1: that that is always sort of always happening.

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Speaker 3: It has been an increase this year, but it's it's

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Speaker 3: we've it goes in sort of swings, like sometimes we'll

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Speaker 3: they'll start coming down and then we don't get him

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Speaker 3: on for a while. Yeah, so it just it just

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Speaker 3: it varies. It just varies obviously depending on the staffing

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Speaker 3: of the practices in Darlin.

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Speaker 1: Well, Phil, you might find you get an influx made

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Speaker 1: after having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: We'll wait and see the.

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Speaker 3: Lovely place here for some of the hot springs lovely

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Speaker 3: caf stay the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say you could make a trip

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Speaker 1: of it, couldn't you If you need to need to

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Speaker 1: get a.

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Speaker 3: Scan done, deal, I'll just say and get away. More

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Speaker 3: of that.

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Speaker 1: Phil, It is great to speak to you this morning, mate.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it here.

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Speaker 3: But to all your listers out there or any fantasies

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Speaker 3: need anything, just to feel free to all and I'm

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Speaker 3: sure we can commodate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you. Thanks so much for your time

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Speaker 2: this morning. I really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is Phil Yah shissen and uh and he is

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Speaker 1: from excuse me, Catherine Diagnostic Imaging