Speaker 1: The flex in Rooms Daily podcast.
Speaker 2: Look to the podcast.
Speaker 3: Flexi, yet again is jumping onto the soap box to
Speaker 3: absolutely slay your ears with something irritating.
Speaker 4: I'm rantant again, but this rant would not have happened
Speaker 4: if we all agreed that to be nice is the
Speaker 4: bare minimum. And also, you've mentioned before how you hate
Speaker 4: the idea of policing people telling people what to do.
Speaker 4: I actually don't mind it, but.
Speaker 3: You thrive on it. I'd say, like yeast and bacteria,
Speaker 3: but only.
Speaker 4: Because I just feel like I would prefer that to
Speaker 4: be direction than no direction at all. And I do
Speaker 4: respect that with every new interaction, you have to set
Speaker 4: a new standard. What was appropriate yesterday might not be
Speaker 4: appropriate today. And that's what I'm finding with this real
Speaker 4: estate issue. Is it a blunder? Is it a two
Speaker 4: time irritation or is it a standard we're setting where
Speaker 4: men can just walk into my house with no consequence?
Speaker 4: I think not.
Speaker 3: And you know what, flex, Everybody's going to listen to
Speaker 3: the podcast next week because I have it on good
Speaker 3: authority that we're gonna get a really stat agent into
Speaker 3: the studio.
Speaker 2: Ooh yeah, anyway, off your pop you going to fight me?
Speaker 4: I was saying that I don't know what this behavior
Speaker 4: is classed as, but this incident with the people walking
Speaker 4: into my house, I'm quick to report like I'm going
Speaker 4: back to the real estate and being like this random
Speaker 4: person walked into my house. Hated it, very uncomfortable. But
Speaker 4: I think the thing that really sends people over the
Speaker 4: edge is that when they're in the house, I'm still
Speaker 4: being polite, so like they're thinking they're getting away with
Speaker 4: them and they're like, oh, you know, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, it's totally fine. Then you snitch. Can
Speaker 4: I snitch hit them with the one too?
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: I hate you think you're getting away with something. You're
Speaker 3: getting through the red light.
Speaker 4: You get little call for your boss. Hey mate, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: I do it again. Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Flex and frooms FLEXI.
Speaker 3: The other day, I popped my live show, Cherry. I
Speaker 3: made my very own live show.
Speaker 4: Which is huge. Congrat space.
Speaker 2: Thanks honey.
Speaker 3: It's weird when you do something in your career that
Speaker 3: is like a stepping stone. It doesn't feel big at
Speaker 3: the time, but this was big for me because it's like,
Speaker 3: I love doing performing. This show is a bit of
Speaker 3: a performance, but actually striking out and doing something live
Speaker 3: in front of people with a live audience is no racking.
Speaker 4: What was a crowd like, wellly twenties, late twenties.
Speaker 3: There was actually a mix because it was part of
Speaker 3: a festival at Hotter, which is home of the arts
Speaker 3: in the Gold Coast. So I was looking on the crowd.
Speaker 3: The vibe was sleepover. So essentially my shows.
Speaker 4: You had a little monogrammed, embossed.
Speaker 3: Embossed little robe saying ceo fruit is.
Speaker 4: It monogram the word embroidered, embroidered.
Speaker 3: All caps cursive or caps cursive, CEO frooms on my
Speaker 3: back and yeah, it was called Bestie. So it was
Speaker 3: a show with my friend Louis Hansen, and it was
Speaker 3: kind of like a bestie sleepover early two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: So the way we did the show, as you say,
Speaker 3: two ky, the show was basically like a one hour thing.
Speaker 2: We'd get we'll get up.
Speaker 3: We made a little song intro that we came. We
Speaker 3: told each other a secret that we hadn't told anyone before,
Speaker 3: and then we did petty tea where people would send
Speaker 3: in the most petty things ever done. And I shared
Speaker 3: my dad's petty tea and I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Tell you about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been giving the ex boyfriends a lot of
Speaker 3: airtime in the past few weeks. And it's not because
Speaker 3: I think about them all the time. I just it's
Speaker 3: interesting content.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's contextual. It happens. I can't relate, but it
Speaker 4: can be avoided.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: My dad is an interesting character, good for certain things.
Speaker 3: When it comes to telling a story in a high
Speaker 3: stress environment that's like a live environment.
Speaker 2: He's quite good at it.
Speaker 3: Like I used to do live dates, he'd come on,
Speaker 3: be witty and be weird in the right way. And
Speaker 3: basically he told a story about I had an ex
Speaker 3: boyfriend once that had broken up with me and my.
Speaker 2: Dad literally, what are you thinking? What are you thinking?
Speaker 3: My dad was driving around in his tow truck because
Speaker 3: he's a car dealer with one of his employees, and
Speaker 3: they're scooting along the road and he spots my ex
Speaker 3: boyfriend we've been broken up for a month, and Dad
Speaker 3: parks the car, gets out of the car, sees the
Speaker 3: ex boyfriend walk into a milk bar. Dad walks into
Speaker 3: the milk bar, standing behind my ex boyfriend. The ex
Speaker 3: boyfriend turns around and sees him and goes ah Steve,
Speaker 3: and Dad's standing there saying hey, go and Xyz then
Speaker 3: walks out of the shop with him. So the ex
Speaker 3: boyfriend's like, did you buy anything, because he's obviously thinking
Speaker 3: Dad's gone in to buy something. No, he just went
Speaker 3: in to intimidate and scare on your behalf.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then left.
Speaker 3: Sweet and his friend was like, why did you go
Speaker 3: in there? You didn't bring me back any snacks. Dad said, nap,
Speaker 3: I had a job.
Speaker 4: It's an employer a friend. Yeah, this is true.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've played I always do at up.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but yes, I talked about that on the
Speaker 3: show and that went down quite nicely with the audience.
Speaker 3: I would say it was a very positive experience having
Speaker 3: a live show. I loved it and I look forward
Speaker 3: to doing many more.
Speaker 4: What was the worst part of the whole experience, need
Speaker 4: light and shade.
Speaker 3: Probably knowing how to wrap it up like the worst part, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it was a very loose show, so knowing how
Speaker 3: to exit the stage when it's like quite a small
Speaker 3: intimate crowd felt weird. It was like, I don't know
Speaker 3: how to say barter people in real life.
Speaker 4: Well as you've taught us, you say, oh my God,
Speaker 4: I'm obsessed. Okay, God bless you by haha.
Speaker 3: You taught us that, so I kind of did like
Speaker 3: a dancing interprety vibe of that.
Speaker 2: So if you're there and you're.
Speaker 3: Watching it, it'll be better next time.
Speaker 2: But otherwise it was a slagh.
Speaker 4: In that moment, You're like, I'm just gonna dance off.
Speaker 4: That'd be the most appropriate. Nobody thinks like you. It's incredible.
Speaker 3: Instincts do not exist in the frim averse. You heard
Speaker 3: it hear first. Yeah, that sounds incredible.
Speaker 4: I want to go next time, but not going to
Speaker 4: go to Gold Coasts or your Sydney show. Yeah, something
Speaker 4: like cute pull you.
Speaker 2: Up onto the stage for a little cameo.
Speaker 4: No, I would have prefer to just point at me
Speaker 4: very regularly, just reference me in jokes and conversations.
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Speaker 2: Tricking they exist in Australia. No, I don't like it.
Speaker 3: What I don't like shifty people be real, don't don't
Speaker 3: tell lies or deceit.
Speaker 4: I for one stand shifty people gotta do what you
Speaker 4: gotta do. You're a shifty queen.
Speaker 1: This is flex and Frooms.
Speaker 3: I will never stop talking about how I am a
Speaker 3: Karen again. It's self protection mechanism for whenever I'm called
Speaker 3: out doing something Karen esque. You can't be like she
Speaker 3: was a Karen all along, because I'm owning it quite
Speaker 3: like I'm owning selling out.
Speaker 4: Do you think that people who are aware of who
Speaker 4: you are, like Frooms but not from radio, know that
Speaker 4: you're a Karen. Does your Instagram audience and you're a Karen.
Speaker 3: No, but we're cultivating a new audience on kit I'm
Speaker 3: going through a bit of a rebrand in some.
Speaker 4: Respects, more Karen, less creative.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: I went on a plane a few weekends ago, which
Speaker 3: you know is a bit of a trigger zone for me.
Speaker 3: The plane is where the Karen's what's the male Karen?
Speaker 4: Greg, Steve Greg, Steve, Craig, male Karen.
Speaker 3: It's Karen and Craig.
Speaker 4: I don't know anyone. People can't seem to agree on
Speaker 4: the male version of a Karen, so it's still, of.
Speaker 3: Course they can't. I'm gonna call him Craig. When you're
Speaker 3: in an airport, it's a very fraught environment. I had
Speaker 3: an almost Karen experience coming home from the Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: It's just sprang into my mind right.
Speaker 4: At this point.
Speaker 3: I was going to tell you about how on the
Speaker 3: plane I kept myself with the arm rest. I deliberately
Speaker 3: choose an F seat so I'm not having to commandeer both.
Speaker 2: Arms with rests.
Speaker 3: However, coming back from the Gold Coast, I was tested
Speaker 3: walking through the terminal clippity clop, going through the what's
Speaker 3: called when you go through the scanner security screenner. Walking
Speaker 3: through the security screening section, I approached the man.
Speaker 2: This is Gold Coast Airport.
Speaker 3: So they've got like the like baskets that you put
Speaker 3: your stuff in underneath and you pull them out and
Speaker 3: put them on top. I go to pull mine out.
Speaker 3: My hands are full. I got two bags. I got
Speaker 3: a coffee. He's like, what's inside that coffee cup?
Speaker 4: An employee?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said coffee. He said, you know, drink literally
Speaker 3: a you can drink it now. And I said, He's like,
Speaker 3: is it full? And I was like yes. He's like,
Speaker 3: we can't take it, so you can't. Yeah, you better
Speaker 3: drink it right now. And I said, okay, well I'm
Speaker 3: not going to drink it right now. Do you have
Speaker 3: a bin? It's like, no, I'm not putting that in
Speaker 3: my bin. There's a bin over there. Leave the line,
Speaker 3: trot around, get back in line. That was Karen on
Speaker 3: his behalf, but I was matched with an opposite Karen, and.
Speaker 4: I realized, mat just romantic. This is awful.
Speaker 3: I don't want anyone to be on the receiving end
Speaker 3: of my Karen.
Speaker 4: What do you think made you feel worse about it?
Speaker 4: The fact that he was telling you to do something
Speaker 4: you didn't want to do, or like his supposed attitude.
Speaker 3: It was probably his tone because if you just said
Speaker 3: oh no, sorry, you didn't even actually have to apologize,
Speaker 3: you'd be like, oh, you're not allowed to do that.
Speaker 3: But there's a bin over there if you just want
Speaker 3: to pop over. But he's like, you're gonna drink her.
Speaker 3: He had Karen style attitude. So I thought, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to try and deem myself because he's not my people.
Speaker 3: So I got back in the line and I went
Speaker 3: down to the other lady, and I came to her humbled,
Speaker 3: and it was a nice stat A humbling experience, isn't it?
Speaker 3: And good to learn that being a Karen makes other
Speaker 3: people feel bad. So to that man, I'm going to
Speaker 3: tell you to adjust your tones. It's been a really
Speaker 3: hard time for the travel industry. It's very stressful. But
Speaker 3: did you need to make me feel so small with
Speaker 3: my little coffee in hand?
Speaker 4: Now, let us cast our minds back to when you
Speaker 4: were beefing with your fellow passengers on the flight.
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't even think about it.
Speaker 4: Now, you in the middle seat, fighting people for the
Speaker 4: arm rest, exciting for my life, that's my arm rest.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Guys in his group chat fighting for his life,
Speaker 4: be like, why am I sat next to this woman
Speaker 4: who wants to fight me about a communal arm rest?
Speaker 2: It's not communal, but I digress.
Speaker 4: Thank you for sharing that. Always appreciate you incriminating yourself
Speaker 4: for the entertainment of me.
Speaker 2: That's okay. I'm just learning. I'm just learning to be humbled.
Speaker 1: It's quite nice you're listening to flex and frooms on Kada.
Speaker 4: I'm putting on a brave face and behind this beautiful
Speaker 4: smile and perfectly hurled ponytail, you would not know that
Speaker 4: I was going through personal.
Speaker 2: Trials and tribulations. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Four weeks now, I've been having a bit of a
Speaker 4: one sided beef with my real estate agent. I guess
Speaker 4: it's not really one sided in the sense that I've
Speaker 4: been very active in my disappointment with how things have
Speaker 4: been going promised renovations. The carpets need to be ripped
Speaker 4: up and replaced. The dimmers don't work. But in addition
Speaker 4: to that, there have been like various leaks due to
Speaker 4: the flooding, things that can't be controlled, but definitely fixed
Speaker 4: or addressed sooner than later, so they don't, you know,
Speaker 4: get worse before we address them again. But the issue
Speaker 4: is that on two occasions now, some random builders have
Speaker 4: just let themselves into my apartment and you might be thinking,
Speaker 4: why is your door unlocked? On both occasions, I'm currently
Speaker 4: moving in, so I'm like taking things out of the
Speaker 4: house going in, and the entrance to my door is
Speaker 4: separate from the rest of the apartment. It's my own entrance.
Speaker 4: Therefore I'm the only one who can get in and
Speaker 4: out from there. So it's the same thing people like.
Speaker 4: I hear them knock, knock, knock, knock, knock and then
Speaker 4: let themselves in. Here's my thing, aside from the fact
Speaker 4: that that it's not allowed. I had to go back
Speaker 4: to basics with myself because as I was drafting this
Speaker 4: very scathing email, and then I thought to myself, what
Speaker 4: would my mum do? And probably not that I'm trying
Speaker 4: to choose kindness because I can be a bit brutal
Speaker 4: and nobody needs to be abused over email. So I
Speaker 4: didn't send the email at all. But in thinking about
Speaker 4: what I was going to say, I kept going back
Speaker 4: to knocking etiquette. Since when does a knock mean I'm
Speaker 4: I'm entering? A knock is an alert to let you
Speaker 4: you know that somebody is there, and then you, the
Speaker 4: person in the house, is meant to open the door.
Speaker 3: No, yes, horror.
Speaker 4: I cannot imagine a world. Maybe I can. I think
Speaker 4: that I can imagine this in terms of living in
Speaker 4: your parents' homes and they knock and just open the door,
Speaker 4: like knock, knock, doock. I'm letting myself in because I
Speaker 4: own this property and you just happen to live here.
Speaker 4: But generally, if I'm talking like living with housemates or
Speaker 4: at an office, you knock for someone to give you
Speaker 4: permission to come in and they might say, yeah, come in,
Speaker 4: and then you open not a knock, and I'm just
Speaker 4: opening doors.
Speaker 3: So the issue is that people are doing that to.
Speaker 4: Your part, Yes, knocking and letting themselves in in what world?
Speaker 4: Like in what world are you pulling up to a
Speaker 4: stranger's house knocking and then touching the door handle? Yeah,
Speaker 4: none of this. It's coming on like I just And
Speaker 4: the thing that's getting me is I feel like I
Speaker 4: sound insane having to type that out an email.
Speaker 3: Now you know what it is giving me flashbacks of
Speaker 3: when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: It's trades.
Speaker 3: People don't do this, Oh okay. Once two thousand and
Speaker 3: five getting renovations.
Speaker 4: Huh, how do you know it's two thousand and five, because.
Speaker 3: My memory is a diamond, great skill. And we had
Speaker 3: a builder called Ken and Marshall Ken Marshall and they
Speaker 3: it was a vehic.
Speaker 2: We edited like we went to VCaP with them, because
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: It's like the Victorian court system because they like didn't
Speaker 3: finish the work.
Speaker 4: Oh well, like hriable c.
Speaker 3: It was a court case whoa heavy ass one of
Speaker 3: the many court cases of our family in the early
Speaker 3: two thousands. Essentially, we had a builder and when me
Speaker 3: and my mom and my sister were home of the
Speaker 3: weekend and stuff, Dad was out working. He would just
Speaker 3: let himself in and Mum would be like in the
Speaker 3: kitchen and she'd just see him walk into the hallway.
Speaker 2: He would yeah. Just so I understand it.
Speaker 3: But I think it's when p people know they have
Speaker 3: a job, your house is the job site. Yes, I
Speaker 3: believe they feel more inclined to just get in there.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I can totally understand in theory, like that
Speaker 4: makes sense to me. But what I'm struggling to understand
Speaker 4: is why I'm having to explain my perspective to my
Speaker 4: real estate agent, like I already had to hit them with,
Speaker 4: like you already know I live here alone as a
Speaker 4: young woman. Why are you letting random men, multiple men,
Speaker 4: just walk into my house all day and not pulling
Speaker 4: them up on it. And I understand this is their
Speaker 4: place of work, but this isn't my home, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like I live here, it needs
Speaker 4: to be safe, and also like it's mine, I'm giving
Speaker 4: you permission to lend permission to somebody else to knock
Speaker 4: on the door and invite themselves in. But realistically, I
Speaker 4: feel like it's super patronizing for me to have to
Speaker 4: explain that to them. But I feel like they're trying
Speaker 4: to shirk responsibility by making it feel like, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: well he did knock, And I'm like, exactly, so that's
Speaker 4: the excuse. It's going back to what he knocked. And
Speaker 4: I'm like and I'm like, I don't know if I
Speaker 4: show you the video I took of the first guy
Speaker 4: who was in my house with no shoes on the
Speaker 4: phone looking at some random corner in the wall and
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, you're in my house. He's like, oh sorry, mate,
Speaker 4: One second pass on the phone, like I'm the hassle.
Speaker 3: I love the sorry mate, like, no sorry to me,
Speaker 3: And it's I think what's frustrating me is the point
Speaker 3: I made earlier, where the thing that's getting me is that, like,
Speaker 3: I'm assuming that etiquette is a social norm, Like, he
Speaker 3: should know that it's inappropriate to just let himself into
Speaker 3: my house.
Speaker 4: Right, but he does not know that because etiquette is
Speaker 4: no longer a social normal. It hasn't been a norm
Speaker 4: for so long. And I was hypothesizing in my little
Speaker 4: brainy about the last conversation we had about you know,
Speaker 4: whether we could identify a difference between nice, kind, or good,
Speaker 4: and if we could create like definitions for each of them,
Speaker 4: which we did, and it was your definitions of the
Speaker 4: three in particular that became the basis of that conversation,
Speaker 4: and through that people were saying they found that nice
Speaker 4: was overwhelmingly disingenuous because it was very superficial and more
Speaker 4: concerned with the perception rather than the reality of how
Speaker 4: you feel. So to be nice is to disregard how
Speaker 4: you feel in favor of what is considered to be normal.
Speaker 4: In my head, I'm like, and.
Speaker 2: So be it.
Speaker 4: The comments on the videos wherever we posted them was
Speaker 4: the same sentiment. I don't want to be called nice.
Speaker 4: Nice as offensive. There are so many other things to
Speaker 4: be nice is a waste of a trait to have.
Speaker 3: I don't trust people that comment on public posts because
Speaker 3: you know that you're being perceived, so you're not being honest,
Speaker 3: You're crafting this.
Speaker 4: It was, honestly, it felt like.
Speaker 3: I don't know, so I just I don't not like you.
Speaker 4: Oh no, they know. Next minute. It just felt like
Speaker 4: we getting to that territory of like who can be
Speaker 4: the most contrarian here. I often feel that people think
Speaker 4: that I am trying to catch them.
Speaker 2: Out, yes, because you don't all the time get to you.
Speaker 4: Yes. When I'm asking a broad question like do you
Speaker 4: know that, like how would you define nice? Kind of good?
Speaker 4: Everyone thinks I have like an answer like a like
Speaker 4: it's a trick question, and I'm just like, I'm comparing
Speaker 4: three very positive things to be referenced as I promise you.
Speaker 4: I'm not like, don't say you want to be called kind,
Speaker 4: because kind is terrible anyway. My point is because people
Speaker 4: have this perception that to be nice is to be disingenuous.
Speaker 4: I think that dovetelling to the fact that etiquette is
Speaker 4: not seen as necessary because it's not honest, right, People Like,
Speaker 4: what's the point in having etiquette if I'm just like
Speaker 4: betraying what I really feel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not all about you.
Speaker 3: So when I say to them, get it a little
Speaker 3: bit of decorum period.
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to figure out how I can bring
Speaker 4: it back. I need to like start a camp of.
Speaker 2: Some sort, open an etiquette school.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm trying to think it out what etiquette looks
Speaker 4: like in twenty twenty one and what is considered to
Speaker 4: be necessary because it needs to consider digital etiquette as well.
Speaker 4: I'm like, it's the wild West out there.
Speaker 3: Let's create a guide like kas Cook's Girl Stuff Guide,
Speaker 3: but for the Internet, literally for young people entering the
Speaker 3: World Wide Way.
Speaker 4: There's something that I'm working on it. The other thing
Speaker 4: we need to wrap up because we could go on forever.
Speaker 4: But I feel like people were saying that, like the
Speaker 4: reason like they don't want to be nice anymore is
Speaker 4: because they were once people pleases and nice people often
Speaker 4: don't know how to be assertive. I'm like, I'm the
Speaker 4: most assertive bitch in the building. Like I'm ready to
Speaker 4: be confrontational at any given moment, and I still recognize
Speaker 4: the value of being nice. What what are your excuses?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Everyone's like, I'm not passive
Speaker 4: enough to be nice. Huh what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be honest as someone who is nice but
Speaker 3: not kind nor good.
Speaker 4: That's hotty behavior.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 4: I want to tell you about this some more McDonald's
Speaker 4: news for you. Who said that? Someone did I say
Speaker 4: McDonald's instead of McDonald's, And I was like, that's so true.
Speaker 4: But what is mack? I's not Mac. You know what's
Speaker 4: MC mean? It's just I mean that.
Speaker 2: They encourage it with a big mac exactly.
Speaker 4: But South Korea has been particularly oh just Korea generally
Speaker 4: has been particularly good with managing its waste and ensuring
Speaker 4: that its citizens and its community is a lot more
Speaker 4: mindful about how they are creating waste and how they're
Speaker 4: disposing of it. Recently, at McDonald's they stopped serving single
Speaker 4: use cups and instead, if you are eating in at McDonald's,
Speaker 4: you get given these plastic like kinking kin kin kink
Speaker 4: clear cups to use, and then when you're done you
Speaker 4: put them back at the station, they get washed and
Speaker 4: then you know, you go pick up another one when
Speaker 4: you want use it.
Speaker 2: Genius.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, I can't think of anything I'd
Speaker 4: rather do less than use a reusable cup in McDonald's.
Speaker 4: I'm already not even eating in, but if I was too,
Speaker 4: some cafeteria style, this is going in the dishwasher. They're
Speaker 4: coming back out. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Don't you remember though, when McDonald's US have the trays
Speaker 3: when you eat in? Does that still happen? I swear
Speaker 3: it doesn't. They don't give you trays anymore.
Speaker 4: Maybe they don't you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't eat it in. Do you get it in?
Speaker 3: You'd get a tray with a little piece of paper
Speaker 3: on the top, which would have like McDonald's.
Speaker 4: What do they get now just to take away?
Speaker 2: Are sure? They just get a bag?
Speaker 3: So if I eat in, I'm ripping the bag and
Speaker 3: making a little bag plate.
Speaker 4: But also shout out to Korea because in I would say,
Speaker 4: like in a couple of years, they they went from
Speaker 4: recycling two percent of their food waste to ninety five
Speaker 4: percent because they have this pay as your recycle program,
Speaker 4: So each household has to physically pay to get rid
Speaker 4: of its waist. So you take you like acculate your
Speaker 4: trash across the week, and then you take it down
Speaker 4: stairs to your recycling machine, and as you put in
Speaker 4: your rubbish, it charges you. So you become more mindful
Speaker 4: about what you consume, how you consume, because're gonna pay
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 2: That is the smartest thing ever.
Speaker 3: It's like when you run out of storage on Gmail.
Speaker 3: I'm going through a bit of an issue ninety eight
Speaker 3: percent full, so ione I have to start paying for
Speaker 3: using up all this digital space.
Speaker 4: Like the rest of us space.
Speaker 3: But I will say Korea is a sleigh as a country,
Speaker 3: as a place South Korea.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been? No, you love it? You love it.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like an alternate It kind of has
Speaker 3: Japan vibes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people do say that often, but I wonder how
Speaker 4: Koreans feel about that, like the appeals that it's like Japan.
Speaker 3: I reckon, it's like New Zealand and Australia if you're
Speaker 3: not from the Southern hemisphere, thinking we're brethren, when really
Speaker 3: I've never been in New Zealand. I should go yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we could totally go.
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