WEBVTT - Does Knocking Give You Permission To Enter?  🚪

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<v Speaker 1>The flex in Rooms Daily podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Look to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Flexi, yet again is jumping onto the soap box to

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely slay your ears with something irritating.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm rantant again, but this rant would not have happened

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<v Speaker 4>if we all agreed that to be nice is the

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<v Speaker 4>bare minimum. And also, you've mentioned before how you hate

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<v Speaker 4>the idea of policing people telling people what to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually don't mind it, but.

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<v Speaker 3>You thrive on it. I'd say, like yeast and bacteria,

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<v Speaker 3>but only.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I just feel like I would prefer that to

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<v Speaker 4>be direction than no direction at all. And I do

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<v Speaker 4>respect that with every new interaction, you have to set

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<v Speaker 4>a new standard. What was appropriate yesterday might not be

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<v Speaker 4>appropriate today. And that's what I'm finding with this real

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<v Speaker 4>estate issue. Is it a blunder? Is it a two

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<v Speaker 4>time irritation or is it a standard we're setting where

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<v Speaker 4>men can just walk into my house with no consequence?

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<v Speaker 4>I think not.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, flex, Everybody's going to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast next week because I have it on good

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<v Speaker 3>authority that we're gonna get a really stat agent into

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<v Speaker 3>the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh yeah, anyway, off your pop you going to fight me?

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<v Speaker 4>I was saying that I don't know what this behavior

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<v Speaker 4>is classed as, but this incident with the people walking

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<v Speaker 4>into my house, I'm quick to report like I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>back to the real estate and being like this random

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<v Speaker 4>person walked into my house. Hated it, very uncomfortable. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think the thing that really sends people over the

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<v Speaker 4>edge is that when they're in the house, I'm still

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<v Speaker 4>being polite, so like they're thinking they're getting away with

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<v Speaker 4>them and they're like, oh, you know, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, no, it's totally fine. Then you snitch. Can

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<v Speaker 4>I snitch hit them with the one too?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate you think you're getting away with something. You're

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<v Speaker 3>getting through the red light.

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<v Speaker 4>You get little call for your boss. Hey mate, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I do it again. Let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and frooms FLEXI.

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<v Speaker 3>The other day, I popped my live show, Cherry. I

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<v Speaker 3>made my very own live show.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is huge. Congrat space.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks honey.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird when you do something in your career that

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<v Speaker 3>is like a stepping stone. It doesn't feel big at

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<v Speaker 3>the time, but this was big for me because it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I love doing performing. This show is a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a performance, but actually striking out and doing something live

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<v Speaker 3>in front of people with a live audience is no racking.

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<v Speaker 4>What was a crowd like, wellly twenties, late twenties.

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<v Speaker 3>There was actually a mix because it was part of

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<v Speaker 3>a festival at Hotter, which is home of the arts

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<v Speaker 3>in the Gold Coast. So I was looking on the crowd.

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<v Speaker 3>The vibe was sleepover. So essentially my shows.

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<v Speaker 4>You had a little monogrammed, embossed.

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<v Speaker 3>Embossed little robe saying ceo fruit is.

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<v Speaker 4>It monogram the word embroidered, embroidered.

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<v Speaker 3>All caps cursive or caps cursive, CEO frooms on my

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<v Speaker 3>back and yeah, it was called Bestie. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>a show with my friend Louis Hansen, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a bestie sleepover early two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 3>So the way we did the show, as you say,

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<v Speaker 3>two ky, the show was basically like a one hour thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd get we'll get up.

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<v Speaker 3>We made a little song intro that we came. We

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<v Speaker 3>told each other a secret that we hadn't told anyone before,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we did petty tea where people would send

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<v Speaker 3>in the most petty things ever done. And I shared

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<v Speaker 3>my dad's petty tea and I'm going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell you about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've been giving the ex boyfriends a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>airtime in the past few weeks. And it's not because

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<v Speaker 3>I think about them all the time. I just it's

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<v Speaker 3>interesting content.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's contextual. It happens. I can't relate, but it

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<v Speaker 4>can be avoided.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>My dad is an interesting character, good for certain things.

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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to telling a story in a high

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<v Speaker 3>stress environment that's like a live environment.

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<v Speaker 2>He's quite good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I used to do live dates, he'd come on,

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<v Speaker 3>be witty and be weird in the right way. And

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<v Speaker 3>basically he told a story about I had an ex

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend once that had broken up with me and my.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad literally, what are you thinking? What are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>My dad was driving around in his tow truck because

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<v Speaker 3>he's a car dealer with one of his employees, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're scooting along the road and he spots my ex

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend we've been broken up for a month, and Dad

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<v Speaker 3>parks the car, gets out of the car, sees the

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<v Speaker 3>ex boyfriend walk into a milk bar. Dad walks into

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<v Speaker 3>the milk bar, standing behind my ex boyfriend. The ex

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend turns around and sees him and goes ah Steve,

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<v Speaker 3>and Dad's standing there saying hey, go and Xyz then

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<v Speaker 3>walks out of the shop with him. So the ex

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend's like, did you buy anything, because he's obviously thinking

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<v Speaker 3>Dad's gone in to buy something. No, he just went

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<v Speaker 3>in to intimidate and scare on your behalf.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then left.

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<v Speaker 3>Sweet and his friend was like, why did you go

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<v Speaker 3>in there? You didn't bring me back any snacks. Dad said, nap,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a job.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an employer a friend. Yeah, this is true.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you've played I always do at up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but yes, I talked about that on the

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<v Speaker 3>show and that went down quite nicely with the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say it was a very positive experience having

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<v Speaker 3>a live show. I loved it and I look forward

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<v Speaker 3>to doing many more.

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<v Speaker 4>What was the worst part of the whole experience, need

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<v Speaker 4>light and shade.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably knowing how to wrap it up like the worst part, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>because it was a very loose show, so knowing how

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<v Speaker 3>to exit the stage when it's like quite a small

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<v Speaker 3>intimate crowd felt weird. It was like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to say barter people in real life.

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<v Speaker 4>Well as you've taught us, you say, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm obsessed. Okay, God bless you by haha.

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<v Speaker 3>You taught us that, so I kind of did like

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<v Speaker 3>a dancing interprety vibe of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're there and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching it, it'll be better next time.

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<v Speaker 2>But otherwise it was a slagh.

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<v Speaker 4>In that moment, You're like, I'm just gonna dance off.

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<v Speaker 4>That'd be the most appropriate. Nobody thinks like you. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Instincts do not exist in the frim averse. You heard

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<v Speaker 3>it hear first. Yeah, that sounds incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go next time, but not going to

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<v Speaker 4>go to Gold Coasts or your Sydney show. Yeah, something

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<v Speaker 4>like cute pull you.

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<v Speaker 2>Up onto the stage for a little cameo.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I would have prefer to just point at me

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<v Speaker 4>very regularly, just reference me in jokes and conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms on DA.

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<v Speaker 4>If you've ever had the urge to pack up your life,

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<v Speaker 4>disappear into the night and start afresh and talking new name,

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<v Speaker 4>new look, new location, there is a whole company for you.

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<v Speaker 4>And this goes back to my point. There's so much

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<v Speaker 4>stuff in the world, so many services, and yet these

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<v Speaker 4>are the ones I want to see more of. These

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<v Speaker 4>ones that tackle very unique problems that actually affect more

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<v Speaker 4>of the population than you think. So if this resonates

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<v Speaker 4>with you, I need you to go to Google or

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<v Speaker 4>actually whatever browser user. If you pop an up ekosa,

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<v Speaker 4>does being still exist? Yahoo? Las, look up Night Moving companies.

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<v Speaker 4>They help you one hundred disappear, start a new life,

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<v Speaker 4>and take care of all the logistics like creating a

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<v Speaker 4>new identity and background, social circle, and even give you

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<v Speaker 4>a secret place to hide and move your stuff all confidentially.

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<v Speaker 4>They're mostly popular in Japan, but they are allegedly coming

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<v Speaker 4>to North America and Europe slowly. Obviously, I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 4>this is not for everyone's tax bracket. This you feel

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<v Speaker 4>like a very premium service, and I'm not really sure

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<v Speaker 4>it's for you know, the casual. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>be perceived anymore, so I'm going on private Instagram vibe.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's more dire than that, but it's good

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<v Speaker 4>to know that the option exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And is it for people who've done crimes?

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<v Speaker 4>Mind your business? Like, do they have to work for

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<v Speaker 4>the cops all of a sudden, have they done a crime?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm calling the authorities?

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<v Speaker 4>Love it could be for anyone. I'm sure it's a

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<v Speaker 4>ton of things, and I think with enough with If

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<v Speaker 4>your problems are big enough and your budget is big enough,

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<v Speaker 4>then this service is for you. It doesn't matter what

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<v Speaker 4>you've done.

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<v Speaker 3>And how do they do it all of a nighttime.

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<v Speaker 4>Baite, you're asking too many questions for a confidential service. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to email them for a quote during

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<v Speaker 4>your personal experience, you can do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Tricking they exist in Australia. No, I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>What I don't like shifty people be real, don't don't

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<v Speaker 3>tell lies or deceit.

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<v Speaker 4>I for one stand shifty people gotta do what you

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<v Speaker 4>gotta do. You're a shifty queen.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I will never stop talking about how I am a

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<v Speaker 3>Karen again. It's self protection mechanism for whenever I'm called

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<v Speaker 3>out doing something Karen esque. You can't be like she

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<v Speaker 3>was a Karen all along, because I'm owning it quite

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm owning selling out.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think that people who are aware of who

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<v Speaker 4>you are, like Frooms but not from radio, know that

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<v Speaker 4>you're a Karen. Does your Instagram audience and you're a Karen.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but we're cultivating a new audience on kit I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going through a bit of a rebrand in some.

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<v Speaker 4>Respects, more Karen, less creative.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I went on a plane a few weekends ago, which

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<v Speaker 3>you know is a bit of a trigger zone for me.

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<v Speaker 3>The plane is where the Karen's what's the male Karen?

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<v Speaker 4>Greg, Steve Greg, Steve, Craig, male Karen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Karen and Craig.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know anyone. People can't seem to agree on

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<v Speaker 4>the male version of a Karen, so it's still, of.

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<v Speaker 3>Course they can't. I'm gonna call him Craig. When you're

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<v Speaker 3>in an airport, it's a very fraught environment. I had

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<v Speaker 3>an almost Karen experience coming home from the Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just sprang into my mind right.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to tell you about how on the

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<v Speaker 3>plane I kept myself with the arm rest. I deliberately

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<v Speaker 3>choose an F seat so I'm not having to commandeer both.

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<v Speaker 2>Arms with rests.

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<v Speaker 3>However, coming back from the Gold Coast, I was tested

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<v Speaker 3>walking through the terminal clippity clop, going through the what's

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<v Speaker 3>called when you go through the scanner security screenner. Walking

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<v Speaker 3>through the security screening section, I approached the man.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Gold Coast Airport.

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<v Speaker 3>So they've got like the like baskets that you put

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<v Speaker 3>your stuff in underneath and you pull them out and

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<v Speaker 3>put them on top. I go to pull mine out.

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<v Speaker 3>My hands are full. I got two bags. I got

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<v Speaker 3>a coffee. He's like, what's inside that coffee cup?

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<v Speaker 4>An employee?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I said coffee. He said, you know, drink literally

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<v Speaker 3>a you can drink it now. And I said, He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>is it full? And I was like yes. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't take it, so you can't. Yeah, you better

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<v Speaker 3>drink it right now. And I said, okay, well I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not going to drink it right now. Do you have

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<v Speaker 3>a bin? It's like, no, I'm not putting that in

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<v Speaker 3>my bin. There's a bin over there. Leave the line,

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<v Speaker 3>trot around, get back in line. That was Karen on

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<v Speaker 3>his behalf, but I was matched with an opposite Karen, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I realized, mat just romantic. This is awful.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want anyone to be on the receiving end

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<v Speaker 3>of my Karen.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think made you feel worse about it?

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that he was telling you to do something

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<v Speaker 4>you didn't want to do, or like his supposed attitude.

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<v Speaker 3>It was probably his tone because if you just said

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<v Speaker 3>oh no, sorry, you didn't even actually have to apologize,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be like, oh, you're not allowed to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's a bin over there if you just want

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<v Speaker 3>to pop over. But he's like, you're gonna drink her.

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<v Speaker 3>He had Karen style attitude. So I thought, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to try and deem myself because he's not my people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got back in the line and I went

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<v Speaker 3>down to the other lady, and I came to her humbled,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was a nice stat A humbling experience, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 3>And good to learn that being a Karen makes other

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<v Speaker 3>people feel bad. So to that man, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you to adjust your tones. It's been a really

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<v Speaker 3>hard time for the travel industry. It's very stressful. But

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<v Speaker 3>did you need to make me feel so small with

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<v Speaker 3>my little coffee in hand?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, let us cast our minds back to when you

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<v Speaker 4>were beefing with your fellow passengers on the flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't even think about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, you in the middle seat, fighting people for the

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<v Speaker 4>arm rest, exciting for my life, that's my arm rest.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry. Guys in his group chat fighting for his life,

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<v Speaker 4>be like, why am I sat next to this woman

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<v Speaker 4>who wants to fight me about a communal arm rest?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not communal, but I digress.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for sharing that. Always appreciate you incriminating yourself

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<v Speaker 4>for the entertainment of me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay. I'm just learning. I'm just learning to be humbled.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite nice you're listening to flex and frooms on Kada.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm putting on a brave face and behind this beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>smile and perfectly hurled ponytail, you would not know that

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<v Speaker 4>I was going through personal.

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<v Speaker 2>Trials and tribulations. What's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Four weeks now, I've been having a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>one sided beef with my real estate agent. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>it's not really one sided in the sense that I've

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<v Speaker 4>been very active in my disappointment with how things have

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<v Speaker 4>been going promised renovations. The carpets need to be ripped

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<v Speaker 4>up and replaced. The dimmers don't work. But in addition

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<v Speaker 4>to that, there have been like various leaks due to

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<v Speaker 4>the flooding, things that can't be controlled, but definitely fixed

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<v Speaker 4>or addressed sooner than later, so they don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>get worse before we address them again. But the issue

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<v Speaker 4>is that on two occasions now, some random builders have

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<v Speaker 4>just let themselves into my apartment and you might be thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>why is your door unlocked? On both occasions, I'm currently

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<v Speaker 4>moving in, so I'm like taking things out of the

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<v Speaker 4>house going in, and the entrance to my door is

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<v Speaker 4>separate from the rest of the apartment. It's my own entrance.

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<v Speaker 4>Therefore I'm the only one who can get in and

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<v Speaker 4>out from there. So it's the same thing people like.

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<v Speaker 4>I hear them knock, knock, knock, knock, knock and then

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<v Speaker 4>let themselves in. Here's my thing, aside from the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that that it's not allowed. I had to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to basics with myself because as I was drafting this

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<v Speaker 4>very scathing email, and then I thought to myself, what

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<v Speaker 4>would my mum do? And probably not that I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to choose kindness because I can be a bit brutal

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<v Speaker 4>and nobody needs to be abused over email. So I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't send the email at all. But in thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>what I was going to say, I kept going back

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<v Speaker 4>to knocking etiquette. Since when does a knock mean I'm

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<v Speaker 4>I'm entering? A knock is an alert to let you

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<v Speaker 4>you know that somebody is there, and then you, the

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<v Speaker 4>person in the house, is meant to open the door.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yes, horror.

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<v Speaker 4>I cannot imagine a world. Maybe I can. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that I can imagine this in terms of living in

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<v Speaker 4>your parents' homes and they knock and just open the door,

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<v Speaker 4>like knock, knock, doock. I'm letting myself in because I

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<v Speaker 4>own this property and you just happen to live here.

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<v Speaker 4>But generally, if I'm talking like living with housemates or

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<v Speaker 4>at an office, you knock for someone to give you

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<v Speaker 4>permission to come in and they might say, yeah, come in,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you open not a knock, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>opening doors.

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<v Speaker 3>So the issue is that people are doing that to.

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<v Speaker 4>Your part, Yes, knocking and letting themselves in in what world?

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<v Speaker 4>Like in what world are you pulling up to a

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<v Speaker 4>stranger's house knocking and then touching the door handle? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>none of this. It's coming on like I just And

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that's getting me is I feel like I

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<v Speaker 4>sound insane having to type that out an email.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you know what it is giving me flashbacks of

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's trades.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't do this, Oh okay. Once two thousand and

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<v Speaker 3>five getting renovations.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh, how do you know it's two thousand and five, because.

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<v Speaker 3>My memory is a diamond, great skill. And we had

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<v Speaker 3>a builder called Ken and Marshall Ken Marshall and they

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<v Speaker 3>it was a vehic.

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<v Speaker 2>We edited like we went to VCaP with them, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the Victorian court system because they like didn't

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<v Speaker 3>finish the work.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, like hriable c.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a court case whoa heavy ass one of

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<v Speaker 3>the many court cases of our family in the early

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<v Speaker 3>two thousands. Essentially, we had a builder and when me

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<v Speaker 3>and my mom and my sister were home of the

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<v Speaker 3>weekend and stuff, Dad was out working. He would just

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<v Speaker 3>let himself in and Mum would be like in the

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<v Speaker 3>kitchen and she'd just see him walk into the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>He would yeah. Just so I understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's when p people know they have

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<v Speaker 3>a job, your house is the job site. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe they feel more inclined to just get in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And I can totally understand in theory, like that

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<v Speaker 4>makes sense to me. But what I'm struggling to understand

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<v Speaker 4>is why I'm having to explain my perspective to my

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<v Speaker 4>real estate agent, like I already had to hit them with,

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<v Speaker 4>like you already know I live here alone as a

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<v Speaker 4>young woman. Why are you letting random men, multiple men,

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<v Speaker 4>just walk into my house all day and not pulling

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<v Speaker 4>them up on it. And I understand this is their

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<v Speaker 4>place of work, but this isn't my home, Like you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, like I live here, it needs

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<v Speaker 4>to be safe, and also like it's mine, I'm giving

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<v Speaker 4>you permission to lend permission to somebody else to knock

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<v Speaker 4>on the door and invite themselves in. But realistically, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it's super patronizing for me to have to

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<v Speaker 4>explain that to them. But I feel like they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to shirk responsibility by making it feel like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>well he did knock, And I'm like, exactly, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>the excuse. It's going back to what he knocked. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like and I'm like, I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 4>show you the video I took of the first guy

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<v Speaker 4>who was in my house with no shoes on the

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<v Speaker 4>phone looking at some random corner in the wall and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, hey, you're in my house. He's like, oh sorry, mate,

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<v Speaker 4>One second pass on the phone, like I'm the hassle.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the sorry mate, like, no sorry to me,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's I think what's frustrating me is the point

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<v Speaker 3>I made earlier, where the thing that's getting me is that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming that etiquette is a social norm, Like, he

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<v Speaker 3>should know that it's inappropriate to just let himself into

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<v Speaker 3>my house.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, but he does not know that because etiquette is

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<v Speaker 4>no longer a social normal. It hasn't been a norm

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<v Speaker 4>for so long. And I was hypothesizing in my little

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<v Speaker 4>brainy about the last conversation we had about you know,

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<v Speaker 4>whether we could identify a difference between nice, kind, or good,

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<v Speaker 4>and if we could create like definitions for each of them,

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<v Speaker 4>which we did, and it was your definitions of the

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<v Speaker 4>three in particular that became the basis of that conversation,

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<v Speaker 4>and through that people were saying they found that nice

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<v Speaker 4>was overwhelmingly disingenuous because it was very superficial and more

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<v Speaker 4>concerned with the perception rather than the reality of how

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<v Speaker 4>you feel. So to be nice is to disregard how

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<v Speaker 4>you feel in favor of what is considered to be normal.

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<v Speaker 4>In my head, I'm like, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So be it.

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<v Speaker 4>The comments on the videos wherever we posted them was

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<v Speaker 4>the same sentiment. I don't want to be called nice.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice as offensive. There are so many other things to

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<v Speaker 4>be nice is a waste of a trait to have.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't trust people that comment on public posts because

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<v Speaker 3>you know that you're being perceived, so you're not being honest,

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<v Speaker 3>You're crafting this.

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<v Speaker 4>It was, honestly, it felt like.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, so I just I don't not like you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, they know. Next minute. It just felt like

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<v Speaker 4>we getting to that territory of like who can be

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<v Speaker 4>the most contrarian here. I often feel that people think

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<v Speaker 4>that I am trying to catch them.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, yes, because you don't all the time get to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. When I'm asking a broad question like do you

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<v Speaker 4>know that, like how would you define nice? Kind of good?

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone thinks I have like an answer like a like

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<v Speaker 4>it's a trick question, and I'm just like, I'm comparing

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<v Speaker 4>three very positive things to be referenced as I promise you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like, don't say you want to be called kind,

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<v Speaker 4>because kind is terrible anyway. My point is because people

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<v Speaker 4>have this perception that to be nice is to be disingenuous.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that dovetelling to the fact that etiquette is

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<v Speaker 4>not seen as necessary because it's not honest, right, People Like,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the point in having etiquette if I'm just like

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<v Speaker 4>betraying what I really feel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's not all about you.

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<v Speaker 3>So when I say to them, get it a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of decorum period.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm trying to figure out how I can bring

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<v Speaker 4>it back. I need to like start a camp of.

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<v Speaker 2>Some sort, open an etiquette school.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm trying to think it out what etiquette looks

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<v Speaker 4>like in twenty twenty one and what is considered to

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<v Speaker 4>be necessary because it needs to consider digital etiquette as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, it's the wild West out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's create a guide like kas Cook's Girl Stuff Guide,

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<v Speaker 3>but for the Internet, literally for young people entering the

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<v Speaker 3>World Wide Way.

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<v Speaker 4>There's something that I'm working on it. The other thing

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<v Speaker 4>we need to wrap up because we could go on forever.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like people were saying that, like the

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<v Speaker 4>reason like they don't want to be nice anymore is

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<v Speaker 4>because they were once people pleases and nice people often

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<v Speaker 4>don't know how to be assertive. I'm like, I'm the

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<v Speaker 4>most assertive bitch in the building. Like I'm ready to

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<v Speaker 4>be confrontational at any given moment, and I still recognize

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<v Speaker 4>the value of being nice. What what are your excuses?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. Everyone's like, I'm not passive

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<v Speaker 4>enough to be nice. Huh what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to be honest as someone who is nice but

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<v Speaker 3>not kind nor good.

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<v Speaker 4>That's hotty behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to tell you about this some more McDonald's

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<v Speaker 4>news for you. Who said that? Someone did I say

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<v Speaker 4>McDonald's instead of McDonald's, And I was like, that's so true.

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<v Speaker 4>But what is mack? I's not Mac. You know what's

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<v Speaker 4>MC mean? It's just I mean that.

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<v Speaker 2>They encourage it with a big mac exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But South Korea has been particularly oh just Korea generally

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<v Speaker 4>has been particularly good with managing its waste and ensuring

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<v Speaker 4>that its citizens and its community is a lot more

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<v Speaker 4>mindful about how they are creating waste and how they're

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<v Speaker 4>disposing of it. Recently, at McDonald's they stopped serving single

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<v Speaker 4>use cups and instead, if you are eating in at McDonald's,

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<v Speaker 4>you get given these plastic like kinking kin kin kink

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<v Speaker 4>clear cups to use, and then when you're done you

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<v Speaker 4>put them back at the station, they get washed and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know, you go pick up another one when

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<v Speaker 4>you want use it.

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<v Speaker 2>Genius.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was thinking, I can't think of anything I'd

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<v Speaker 4>rather do less than use a reusable cup in McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm already not even eating in, but if I was too,

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<v Speaker 4>some cafeteria style, this is going in the dishwasher. They're

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<v Speaker 4>coming back out. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't you remember though, when McDonald's US have the trays

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<v Speaker 3>when you eat in? Does that still happen? I swear

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't. They don't give you trays anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they don't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't eat it in. Do you get it in?

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<v Speaker 3>You'd get a tray with a little piece of paper

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<v Speaker 3>on the top, which would have like McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 4>What do they get now just to take away?

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<v Speaker 2>Are sure? They just get a bag?

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<v Speaker 3>So if I eat in, I'm ripping the bag and

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<v Speaker 3>making a little bag plate.

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<v Speaker 4>But also shout out to Korea because in I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>like in a couple of years, they they went from

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<v Speaker 4>recycling two percent of their food waste to ninety five

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<v Speaker 4>percent because they have this pay as your recycle program,

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<v Speaker 4>So each household has to physically pay to get rid

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<v Speaker 4>of its waist. So you take you like acculate your

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<v Speaker 4>trash across the week, and then you take it down

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<v Speaker 4>stairs to your recycling machine, and as you put in

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<v Speaker 4>your rubbish, it charges you. So you become more mindful

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<v Speaker 4>about what you consume, how you consume, because're gonna pay

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<v Speaker 4>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the smartest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like when you run out of storage on Gmail.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going through a bit of an issue ninety eight

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<v Speaker 3>percent full, so ione I have to start paying for

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<v Speaker 3>using up all this digital space.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the rest of us space.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say Korea is a sleigh as a country,

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<v Speaker 3>as a place South Korea.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been? No, you love it? You love it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's like an alternate It kind of has

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<v Speaker 3>Japan vibes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, people do say that often, but I wonder how

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<v Speaker 4>Koreans feel about that, like the appeals that it's like Japan.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon, it's like New Zealand and Australia if you're

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<v Speaker 3>not from the Southern hemisphere, thinking we're brethren, when really

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<v Speaker 3>I've never been in New Zealand. I should go yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, we could totally go.

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