1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Wednesday, 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: the twenty third of July. I'm Emma Gillespie, I'm Billy 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: fitz Simon's sharks, seals, rays, octopus, dolphins. These are just 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: some of the marine species that have washed up dead 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: on South Australian beaches on mass in recent months. A 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: toxic algal bloom has been lingering off the state's coast 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: since at least March, and it's been blamed for the 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: deaths of these animals. This is a story that has 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: now gained national attention, with the federal government announcing funding 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: to address the crisis this week, but as calls for 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: the government to declare a national disaster mount, scientists are 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: warning the danger could spread to other states. Today we're 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: going to unpack everything you need to know about this story, 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: including the science behind it and what it means for 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: the future. But before we get into today's deep dive, 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: here is a quick message from our sponsor. 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: And this is one of those stories that has been 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: around for a while, but I feel like in the 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: past week in particular, it's really gained national momentum. Now, 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure those of us listening in South Australia are 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: very well aware of what is happening. But for those 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: of us who are not in South Australia, do you 25 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: want to just take it right back to basics and 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: explain what is algol bloom? Yeah? Am I saying it right? 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: Algal bloom? 28 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: Yes, it's an algal bloom. It's one of those stories. 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 2: I think that because it's been around for so long, 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: people might feel like it's gotten away from them, you know, 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: those big news stories. 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: But that's me. 33 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, pay attention at the right moment. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: And it's really complicated. So hopefully we will sort that 35 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: out for you, Billy and others like you today. Let's 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: start with what algae are. So in the simplest terms, 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: there are a broad group of aquatic plants that live 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: and grow in the sea and in freshwater. Now, some 39 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: algae can be large seaweeds. Other species are microscopic, so 40 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: completely invisible to the human eye. But algae plays a 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: vital role in marine ecosystems, so algae isn't always the 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: bad guy. They are a food source for many organisms. 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: They produce a large chunk of Earth's oxygen through photosynthesis. 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: I remember that one from U ten geography exactly. So 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: that's for another day talking photosynthesis. But as good as 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: algae and as important as algae is, in some conditions, 47 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: algae can grow out of control. Now, when that happens, 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: it has a negative impact on marine ecosystems, And that's 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: what's happening right now in South Australia in an event 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: known as a harmful algal bloom. Now, depending on the 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: type of algae, some blooms produce toxins that can kill 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: fish or other marine life like seabirds, or even cause 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: human illness. But other non toxic algae blooms can still 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: be just as devastating because the oxygen these algae colonies 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: consume essentially suffocate animal species and other plants. 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so we know that an algal bloom has happened 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: in the waters in South Australia. Yep. Do we know 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: what has caused that? 59 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: Yes? So there has been an increase in these types 60 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: of events in recent years right around the world, and 61 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure it won't surprise many people to hear that 62 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: that is because of the increased occurrence of marine heat 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: waves around the world. So in South Australia specifically, a 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 2: marine heat wave began to spike in September last year, 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: and this essentially has created the perfect conditions for microscopic 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: marine algae called phytoplankton to grow out of control. So 67 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: the specific algae involved in this bloom is called Corinia michmotoi, 68 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: which produces reactive oxygen molecules that are harmful to fish gills. 69 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: Scientists say that there are a whole heap of factors 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: pretty much that have contributed to the intensity of the 71 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: algal bloom in South Australia. So the marine heat wave 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: that brought above average sea temperatures roughly two and a 73 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: half degrees warmer than normal, as well as karma conditions 74 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: so light winds, small swells, so the ocean is more 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: still things animals, plants, species that would be moved around 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: by the kind of natural turbulence of the ocean are not. Additionally, 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: there was flooding in the Murray River in twenty twenty 78 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: two and twenty twenty three. That flooding washed extra nutrients 79 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: freshwater nutrients into the sea and basically what experts say 80 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: is that it's a combination of all of those factors 81 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: that have essentially created this perfect storm, the ideal conditions 82 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: for algae to bloom in places it really shouldn't be. 83 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Right, and the marine heat wave that is a symptom 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: of climate change exactly. 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: So there is a lot of research yet to be 86 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: done definitively in this space, but there is kind of 87 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: undeniable anecdotal evidence that with rising sea temperatures there is 88 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: this trend of marine heat waves, have increased incidents of 89 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: those and with them these harmful algal blooms right around 90 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 2: the world. 91 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Got it? And what do we know about the scale 92 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: and the impact of this algal bloom in South Australia. 93 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: Yes, so it was first detected around Essays, Fluru Peninsula, 94 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: the York Peninsula and Kangaroo Island, but it's now expanded 95 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: to Adelaide's metropolitan beaches, further north and to the west beyond. 96 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: So the Biodiversity Council estimates that more than four hundred 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: and thirty species of marine animals have been killed. When 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: we're thinking about the impact, so thousands and thousands of 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty species. It was hoped that the 100 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: winter waters would kind of weaken the bloom, that it 101 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 2: would dissipate, that cooler waters would come through and move 102 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: the algae. But this hasn't happened. Again, there's that marine 103 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: heat wave, and so because this type of algae damages 104 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: fish gills, essentially what's happening is these animals are being suffocated. 105 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: It's awful to think about, but that is what's happening. 106 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: That's why we're seeing mass deaths of all kinds of animals, 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: including rarely encountered deep border sharks, iconic leafy sea dragons, 108 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: all types of different rays, rock, lobsters, crabs, squid, octopus more. 109 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: If you want to look at this, and I don't 110 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: blame you if you want to avoid it, but there 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: are just hundreds of really macarb images of the coastline 112 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 2: of beaches across South Australia that are just littered with 113 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: these corpses of these animals. 114 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've also seen images of seals and dolphins washing 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: up on beaches in South Australia too. Is that also 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: linked well? 117 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: The images that we're seeing of dolphins and seals. This 118 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: has sparked a bit of a different conversation or debates. 119 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: So those animals are mammals. The other animals like the 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: invertebrates fish sharks, sharks or a type of fish gild animals. 121 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: Basically we understand why they are washing up and why 122 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: they are dying from the bloom. Officials have confirmed that 123 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: the bloom has been detected in the Port River, which 124 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: is home to the Adelaide Dolphin Sanctuary, but the South 125 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 2: Australian Government's advice is that the specific algae in this 126 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: bloom isn't toxic to mammals. It instead has explained mammal 127 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: deaths on wild weather rather than the blooms. So in 128 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: winter there is an increase in storms. Storm swells in 129 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: the ocean can sometimes lead to an increase in mammals 130 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: washing up, but experts say the number of mammals that 131 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: we're seeing dying it doesn't really add up with that 132 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 2: theory of storms, so some scientists suggest that a neurotoxin 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: called brevetoxin could be a factor. So I mentioned that 134 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: some algal blooms are non toxic algae, some are toxic algae, 135 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: and the South Australian Government has since confirmed that toxic 136 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: poisons have been detected around the Air Peninsula, with authorities 137 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: enacting temporary beach closures on July nine, where brevitoxins were found. 138 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: That's a really really small amount of toxins. It's not 139 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: entirely clear how linked the presence of those toxins are 140 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: to the rest of the algal bloom, but it is 141 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: certainly caused for concern and it would explain the mammals 142 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: that are also washing up. 143 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Okay, So to be clear, we do know that this 144 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: algal bloom has caused the death of several hundreds or 145 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: thousands of four hundred and thirty species, which includes things 146 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: like fish, But when it comes to mammals like the 147 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: dolphins and the seals, we aren't one hundred percent sure 148 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: that there is a link there, but there are suspicions 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: that it could be. 150 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, marine ecologists are pretty much saying that there 151 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: is a relationship and we can't hide from that. But 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: there's also this kind of pressure on testing, and with 153 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: the bloom being so widespread, it's been hard for government 154 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: resources to kind of keep up with the demand of 155 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: the locations and the testing required, and the amount of 156 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: time it takes to kind of get those water samples, 157 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: take them to the lab, recover the corpses, of the animals, 158 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: conduct and necropsies like an autopsy on an animal after 159 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: their death to determine the cause of death of those animals. 160 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: I suppose it's the scale of the situation is just 161 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: so enormous that authorities are struggling to kind of keep 162 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: up and deliver answers at the pace of the questions 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: that are coming up. 164 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: With this happening in waters and at beaches in South Australia. 165 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I know it's winter, so maybe not many people are 166 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: going for a swim, but for those who maybe are, 167 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: is there any risk to people? 168 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: So this is where understanding the type of algae in 169 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: the harmful bloom becomes really important. So current essay health 170 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: advice is that the algae quote does not produce a 171 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: toxin that is harmful to humans, but exposure can cause 172 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: skin irritation, eye irritation, and respiratory symptoms. However, because traces 173 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: of brevitoxins that neurotoxin I mentioned have been detected and 174 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: marine ecologists have pointed out that additional harmful species are 175 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: likely present in the bloom mix, there are some concerns 176 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: about dangers to human health. So if brevitoxin's become more prevalent. 177 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: What happens in serious cases is they can lead to 178 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: nerve damage, spasms, paralysis, respiratory distress, headaches, nausea, a whole 179 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 2: suite of more serious symptoms. Wow. 180 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: And this week the federal government announced funding to address 181 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: the crisis. What's happening there? 182 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: Yes, so we saw the Federal Environment Minister Murray Watt 183 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: visits South Australia this week where he announced fourteen million 184 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: dollars in federal funding for research to help affected businesses 185 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: like fishes, tourism operators, community support and funding for the 186 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: cleaning up of all the dead marine life. The Premiere 187 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: of South Australia, Peter malinowskis he has been calling for 188 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: a formal natural disaster declaration. Basically that is a formality 189 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: that would unlock extra funds, so it would compel the 190 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: government to distribute more funding and more support for the 191 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: efforts as we kind of learn more about this bloom. 192 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: But Murray Watt said the bloom hasn't met the strict 193 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: definition for a natural disaster, but he hasn't ruled out 194 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: tweaking the criteria or having more conversations about that in 195 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: the future. 196 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: And what are experts saying about the broader implications of this. 197 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: Yes, So we've heard from the University of Melbourne's Associate 198 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: Professor John Moraello, who said the bloom has quote wreaked 199 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: havoc with the region's marine ecosystem, devastating fisheries and aquaculture industries. 200 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: Now quickly touching on the kind of concerns for commercial fisheries. 201 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: This is multi layered, but basically, so many fish are 202 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: dying that fisheries are saying there's nothing left to catch. 203 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 2: There's also a concern that the fish they are catching 204 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: are unwell, and then you've got to think about the 205 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: kind of longer term implications on consumer attitudes. So if 206 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: we're all hearing about this algal bloom, does that change 207 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: the way we think about South Australian seafood products? Does 208 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: that mean we're not going to want to buy them? 209 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: Green spokesperson Sarah Hanson Young has called for a rescue 210 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: package compro to the government's COVID response. The Greens have 211 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: been really vocal in this space from the early days 212 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: of the bloom. They want a natural disaster declaration. We 213 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: have heard from the new Shadow Environment Minister Angie Bell, 214 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: she's accused the government of being completely flat footed to 215 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: use her words. In its response after Murray what visited 216 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: South Australia. Angie Bell said that he was trying to 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: palm this off as a state issue that Labour needs 218 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: to do more. But Angie Bell did say quote the 219 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: Coalition stands ready to work constructively with the Government to 220 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: prevent any further devastation from the toxic algal bloom. 221 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: And I guess my last question is what happens next. 222 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Is that any hope of the situation improving? 223 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 2: There is one ray of hope which I know this 224 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: can sound really devastating and for the people impacted by 225 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: it in South Australia, for marine scientists, for that whole community, 226 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: seeing these endangered species, these deep water creatures washing up 227 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: dead on beaches has been completely devastating. But the good 228 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: news is a bioluminescent algae that feeds on the harmful 229 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: algae that we've seen in this bloom. So the Kerna Mikemoito. 230 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Wow, you've done really well with the science jargon today. 231 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: I got that wrong. It's the harmful Kernia michemoid toy 232 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: god as how you say it. 233 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,359 Speaker 1: I was going to correct you you're a stickler. 234 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: For these pronunciations, but also forgive me audience if I'm not. 235 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 2: This bioluminescent algae, which I'm not even to attempt to pronounce, 236 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: has been spotted in the region in the waters of 237 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: South Australia. Why that matters, apart from bioluminescent algae looking 238 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: very cool, is that this algae can eat the harmful algae. 239 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 2: So scientists are hoping or watching and waiting to see 240 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: if this bioluminescent algae is going to feed on the 241 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: harmful bloom, which would reduce the numbers of this harmful 242 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: algae and help bring an end to this disaster. But 243 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: it is such a complex environmental crisis there are no 244 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: easy answers, and we keep monitoring the situation. I do 245 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: also just want to reiterate there's so much we don't 246 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: know yet. So while there are these concerns about the brevitoxins, 247 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: the neurotoxins, the harmful algie, what we know about that 248 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: is that it's been discovered in small amounts in some areas. 249 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: It's not, so far as we know, widespread. So I 250 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: don't want people to be unnecessarily concerned or alarmed. I 251 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: think it's good for people to be wary. This is 252 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: a really concerning situation, but it's not you know, panic 253 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: stations in terms of what we're buying it the supermarkets 254 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: just yet. 255 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we will keep a very close eye on it. 256 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: And you are our amazing science correspondent. You're specifically extremely 257 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: good at all things marine sea life. 258 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. My high school teachers would probably 259 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: have a heart attack. And when we're talking about this 260 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: these days, considering I was really bad at it, it's 261 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: all no. 262 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: You have explained that so well. Thank you so much 263 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: for taking us through that. 264 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 265 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: And thank you so much for listening to this episode 266 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: of The Daily os. We'll be back this afternoon with 267 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: your evening headlines, but until then, have a great day. 268 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 269 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Bujelung Kalkadoon woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges 270 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 271 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and torrest 272 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Rate island and nations. We pay our respects to the 273 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present,