1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Well the new police commissioners making some changes to the 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Northern Territory Police top brass. Announcing those changes following the 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: departure of two veteran Territory cops. Three weeks after being 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: appointed to the top job. Police Commissioner Michael Murphy announced 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: on Friday that he's reshaping his new executive team by 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: removing one of the deputy commissioner roles and expanding the 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: number of assistant commissioners well to six now. He said 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: the new leadership team would include a specialist domestic Violence 9 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: and Youth portfolio and a workforce well Being and recruitment role. 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: It comes as Police and Cultural Reform Assistant Commissioner Bruce 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Porter marked his final day with the Northern Territory Police 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: after thirty five years with the force. He's the second 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: senior member of the police executive to announce his retirement 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: since mister Murphy's appointment, following the departure of Deputy Commissioner 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Murray Smallpage about a week and a half ago. Now 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: joining me on the show show is the Police Association 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: President Nathan Finn. Good morning to you, Finny. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: Good morning Katy, and good morning to you listeners. 19 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: Now tell us two significant retirements in the last couple 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: of weeks. What do you make of those changes? 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and they were obviously on the cards well 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: and before mister Murphy come into obviously power being the commissioner. 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, obviously mister Porter, obviously thirty five year veteran 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: of the Northern Terretory Police Force, obviously be wishing well 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: in his retirement and moving on. But it's well overdue 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: for a change with the executive the Northern Territory Police 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Force and I'm glad mister Murphy's progressing these changes now. 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: Michael Murphy announced on Friday as well that he's going 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: to be reshaping his new executive team by removing one 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: of the deputy commissioner roles and expanding the number of 31 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: assistant commissioners to six. He said the new leadership team 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: would include a specialist domestic violence and youth portfolio and 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: a workforce well being and recruitment role. Do you think 34 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: that this is a good move? 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: I believe it is, especially for the changing of the guard. 36 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: Obviously with the domestic violence and the use there major 37 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: issues that we deal with in the Northern Churchy Police Force. 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: It's well known in relation to the Wealth and hell 39 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: Health and well Being AC. I think this is also 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: but it also needs to come with the addequate funding. Obviously, 41 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: our current funding for the welfare and well Being Support 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 2: and well Being program was three million dollars with a 43 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: third of that mainly take up with wages et cetera. 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: We need the more support in that area for our members. 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: So you reckon there does need to be some additional 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: funding attached. Does that mean more funding from the Northern 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Territory government or a restructuring of the way that the 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: police is managing the funding that they've already got. 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: Again, that's obviously something for the commission. But I believe 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: obviously the domestic violence initiative that they've just announced to 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: the government with no extra funding to police and to 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: maintain it within our existing budgets, there needs to be 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: some give there and some obviously expendulate that for the 54 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: Northern Churchy Police and running these extra functions. 55 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: Nathan, it does seem as though the new Police Commissioner 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: is certainly making his mark, making some pretty significant changes 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: early on in his leadership. Are you expecting to see 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: some further movements. 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 2: At the top? I believe so. I think the conversations 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: we've been having is very productive. We're seeing obviously extra 61 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: responsibilities push them through the ranks and through to the 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 2: management levels, which is going to be a great thing 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: for the Northern Churty Police. So as a manage our 64 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: own people, we've got the ability to manage and obviously 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: the extra responsibilities on these additional assistant commissioners we should 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: be able to manage their areas quite sufficiently. 67 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: Now in terms of you know, the former police commissioner's leadership, 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: we know that eighty percent of the police rank and 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: file told a union survey that they'd lost faith in 70 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the upper echelon. I guess you'd say of the force. 71 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: Do you think that these changes or changes like this 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: are going to help the rank and file to regain 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: some confidence in leadership? 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: Definitely, Knatie, and obviously that's true. The discussion with the 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: new commissioner is definitely we're going to see a positive 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: change in the health and well being of members. He's 77 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 2: got the members first and foremost and hopefully that remains. 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: Obviously with the executive, we know there hasn't been the 79 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: past over the previous executive. We want to see that change. 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: We want to see the members become the prime responsibility 81 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: of the Commissioner and making sure our members are health 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: and well being. 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: Now last week as well, we caught up with Vince Kelly, 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the person in charge of the review that you and 85 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: I have spoken about on numerous occasions. I'm assuming that 86 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: you've already possibly had meetings with Vince Kelly and are 87 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: you expecting this review to go as far as what 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: you're hoping it will, Katie. 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: Again, we can only hope. Obviously we're optimistic in relation 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: to what's going to come out of this, but we 91 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: need to know and meet. The government needs to make 92 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: sure that these recommendations are atically funded, So whatever recommendations 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: are made, we need to make sure that they're going 94 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: to be actually followed up and actually funded. 95 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: So, by the sounds of it, you're quite happy with 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: some of the announcements which are being made, particularly from 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: the new Police Commissioner, but you are a bit concerned 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: about that funding and making sure that there's adequate funding 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: to be able to follow through with the recommendations that 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: are being made and some of these changes that are 101 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 1: being made as well. 102 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the funding is a big issue as we know 103 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: where resource short in the Northern Territory and the only 104 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: way we're going to actually get the resources we need 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: to get is through extra funding, and we haven't got 106 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: that funding. We're going to be resource poor. We're going 107 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: to struggle to deal with the demands of policing day 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: to day in the Northern Territory and that's what we 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: really need to focus on. So more funding means more members, 110 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: more ability for us to do the job that we 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: need to do well. 112 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: Nathan Finn, we will get ready to go. I understand 113 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: you're in Canberra today. What's happening in Canberrah. 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 2: Obviously we're down here all the presidents come together part 115 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: of the Police Federation of Australia, so all the union 116 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: delegates from across Australia and New Zealand come down to 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: discuss what's going on across their jurisdiction and see how 118 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: we compare to the other jurisdictions. Going on, good chance 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: to also catch up and see the issues that they're facing, 120 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: and see the issues they're facing and obviously work at 121 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: a national level to obviously improve policing right across Australia 122 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: and New Zealand. 123 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: Do you reckon We've got pretty similar issues to the 124 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: other states, or do you think that we're a little different. 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: In some ways, we're a little different. 126 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Obviously, our remote workforce is very different to most of 127 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: the other jurisdictions, obviously apart from the top end of 128 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 2: Wa and top end of Queensland. But again we're seeing 129 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: the same issues across policing right across the Australia and 130 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: New Zealand. We also are here down here. We've got 131 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: National Bravery Awards tomorrow night here in Canberra, which would 132 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: be a great evening to obviously recognize some of the 133 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: explantory behavior of the members obviously of the policing forces 134 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: across Australia and New Zealand. 135 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: Wonderful stuff. Please don't say anything that could get you 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: in trouble. But are we expecting any Territorians to be recognized. 137 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: We can only hope, Katie, We can only hope. Yeah, 138 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: I'd love to be able to say something, but I can't. 139 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: We'll wait and see, we will, We'll wait and see. 140 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Nathan Finn, President of the Northern Territory Police Association, always 141 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Thanks for having a quick chat with 142 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: us this morning. 143 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, and also thank you to those members 144 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: of the Northern Churchy Police Force to keep going above 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: and beyond. Thank you very much, good stuff. 146 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Good on you, Finny, thank you. You are listening to 147 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: Mix one O four nine's three sixty now. 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