1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Your career is absolutely flying, but you've been dealing with 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: perimenopause behind the scenes. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: What have you been coping with day to day? You know, 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: the worst thing probably is the lack of sleep, hot flushes, 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: all the typical sort of things. But the symptoms are 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: so just so white. There are so many of them. 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a cliche, right patch, But knowledge 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: is power. To go to the GP. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Knowing which symptoms you might have a good GP is 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: absolute gold. What I find really frustrating is that perimenopausal 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: period that it's a tunnel and you don't know how 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 2: far through the tunnel you are, how long the tunnel is, 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: And you can go to a GP, even as specialist, 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: and they can't. There's nothing definitive. It's like, well, am 15 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: I or aren't I? And the fact that you can't 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: get that answer. Anxiety is so common, isn't it? In menopause? 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: That was for me the hardest symptom of all was 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: my mental health and were sorry that took me. 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Most women who were going through it I kind of 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: at the peak of their careers, right, so they've reached 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: a point where they're competent and they're confident, and they're 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: potentially in really quite powerful positions, worked. 23 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: All these decades to get to the point where they are. 24 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: And so to then be undermined. Yes, by their hormones. 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: You have told me up on several occasions about this, 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, I've kept doing it. No, you're not 27 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: still doing it? 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Well, I have a once or twice I did this 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: morning actually before I came in. Yes, I did. 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: I just shaved my chin. That's okay, if you go 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: into a laser as a follower. I fine with hair. 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: It grows in the places where you don't want it 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: and not in the place as you do. Yes. Hey, 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: it's Pats, just jumping back on to thank my rage 35 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: against the menopause community for embracing the first series of 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: my podcast. It's really reaffirmed what I already knew that 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: women need a podcast like mine, that they want a 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: podcast like this because we haven't been doing a great 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: job of supporting perimenopausal and menopause A women and they're 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: not feeling heard or validated in what they're going through. 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: I'm really overwhelmed by the messages I'm getting from women 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 2: of all ages, women thrown into early menopause because of hysterectomies, 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 2: daughters of mums who never really understood until now what 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: it was their poor mum was going through. And men, 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: some as young as thirty, who thank my podcast for 46 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: helping to educate them and arm them with how to 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: better support their partners in the years ahead. All of 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 2: us have a role in helping to break this stigma 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: around menopause, and we need to keep the conversation going, 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: which is where you, as a listener to Rage against 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: the Menopause comes in. I'd love you to drop me 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: a message on Insta Petrina Jones Newman and share how 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: it is for you, maybe a partner, maybe a friend. 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: It may even be a question for an expert that 55 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: you want me to pose. Use me and this podcast 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: as your go between for support. Series two is coming 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: along with another Hot Flush, launching around International Women's Day 58 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: on March eight, twenty twenty five. It carries the theme 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: March Forward and I want you to walk with me 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: through the maze of metopause and out the other side. 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm Patrina Jones, Thanks for listening.