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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation to the.

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Speaker 2: Jersey demand of arms for the pub test today smart

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Speaker 2: devices do they pass the pub test?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about this in the latest episode of Double

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Speaker 4: a Chatty, the podcast I did with my friend Anita,

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Speaker 4: and she started the conversation by saying she'd read about

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Speaker 4: a smart toilet. She thought it was going to be

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Speaker 4: one of those Japanese ones that plays music and all

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Speaker 4: the rest of it. But what it does is it

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Speaker 4: actually analyzes your waste products. And then she was thinking, well,

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Speaker 4: if it does that, where does that information go? Could

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Speaker 4: it go to an insurance company, could it go to

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Speaker 4: my employer? Does it go to a doctor? And they

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Speaker 4: have this information that I doam not even know where

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Speaker 4: they have exactly. We have a whole lot of smart devices,

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Speaker 4: our phones, our computers, all of that, but more and

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Speaker 4: more family gadgets are being hooked up as smart device.

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Speaker 2: My wife's car, for example, so she goes that as

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Speaker 2: a toilet. So it's a nice car, it's a BMW

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Speaker 2: nice car. And anyway, get a call the other day

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Speaker 2: it's due for a service or the telemetry your car

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Speaker 2: is due for a service, and Helen says, oh, ability

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Speaker 2: take it for its service, and I said, well, this

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Speaker 2: is where they go and change the wiper fluor and

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Speaker 2: it cost me two and a half grand and you

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Speaker 2: get a coffee. That's what they do.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing, all this telemetry, But where is

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Speaker 4: your data going? Are you being protected from where it's going?

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Speaker 4: I said earlier that we had a Google Home that

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Speaker 4: I loved. I used a lot. What's the temperate what's

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Speaker 4: the weather going to be like tomorrow? Can you set

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Speaker 4: a time for twelve minutes I'm cooking biscuits, that kind

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Speaker 4: of thing. When we unplugged it to paint the kitchen,

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Speaker 4: Harley looked at all the microphone attachments and all the

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Speaker 4: stuff you'd have to reset put it back on, and

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Speaker 4: he said, this is going in the bin.

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Speaker 2: Having said that though we control the stuff, it's like

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Speaker 2: you control your car. I can choose to take my

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Speaker 2: car to anyone to get serviced. I don't have to

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Speaker 2: take it to BMW and spend a fortune on it.

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Speaker 2: We take it.

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Speaker 4: We think we're in control of this stuff, but are

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Speaker 4: we smart devices? Do they pass the pub test?

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Speaker 5: I love my smartphone, however, it really gives me the

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Speaker 5: eric when you're talking about something, or you googling something.

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Speaker 5: The next time you jump on a Facebook and everything

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Speaker 5: you've are you talking about or googling, is there right

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Speaker 5: in your news feed. So as far as I'm consumed,

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Speaker 5: little aliens, take your little bags and go away.

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Speaker 1: I think smart devices class the PUB test because people

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Speaker 1: are relying on smart devices more and more, and the

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Speaker 1: more they get smart, the more we get done because

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Speaker 1: we just allow them to do all the thinking, and

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Speaker 1: I think we should start thinking for ourselves again.

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Speaker 3: I think they passed the PUB test. I mean, we

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Speaker 3: all have iPhones now, so what's another little thing that's

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Speaker 3: satted on? Why don't they always have our data for

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Speaker 3: everything else? But it's also got me thinking, like I

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Speaker 3: did one of those ancestry DNA tests, so they're going

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Speaker 3: to get that through that as well. What are they

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Speaker 3: doing with that DNA?

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Speaker 4: That's another thing that worries me. I wouldn't do one

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Speaker 4: of those, I don't think right, because you don't know

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Speaker 4: where your DNA.

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Speaker 2: Ends are Bush range of Keller.

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm going to live off grid.

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Speaker 2: Be one of those cookers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that going well?

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Speaker 2: That's going well right now?

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Speaker 4: They got him yet, No