1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,559 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, everybody's. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Cutting room floor? 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Is he cutting room for? 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 2: Have you ever used chat GTP, GPT, gst VPL, chat GPT. 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: It's hard to say, I know I have not. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: That's interesting though, my friend a Neda McGregor, who I 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: do a podcast. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: It's great, double a chattery, you and Anita McGregor. Anita 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: is a clinical she's a forensic psychologist, that's. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Right, and she also runs the unit for forensic psychology. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: And whenever I'm at your place at a party, at 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: a soiree, I like to get Anita in a corner 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: and just ask her questions about what about that nut? 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: What about that guy? 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: What about that dude? You know, I love that stuff. 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 2: And she knows you're talking about you. 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: After a few gens and tonics, she sings like a 18 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: she does. 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: But what's interesting is as an exam marker, and this 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: is the people who are post grade people who are 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: you going to be forensic psychologists, there's a high level 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 2: of marking and assessment involved, and it's hard to tell 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: if students have been using chat GPT for their assignments 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: because what chat GPT does is it makes every single 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: answer different, so you can put in the same assignment 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: information that I do, and two different results will come out. 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: So it's very hard. There is software that can detect plagiarism, 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: and now they're trying to put in software that can 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: detect chat GPT. That's why it's so effective is because 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: it spits out something different every time. 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of my son's mates, he works for a 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 1: council and he had to do a presentation. He'd left 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: it to the last minute, had a raging hangover, and 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: then put it all what the presentation is into chat 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: GPT and ended up getting accolades and a pay rise 36 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: for the presentation. 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: This is the thing. And maybe that's okay, Maybe that's 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: all right, maybe you don't have to sweat over these stuff. 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: But people using it, as I said, for school essays, 40 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 2: for scriptwriting, for song lyrics articles. But what about this guy? 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: How do you feel about this? This guy, fifty five 42 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: year old James Asterix not his real name, wanted to 43 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: break up with this girl he was going out with. 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: He said. It was after the third day and I 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: decided I didn't really want to be with her. I thought, though, 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: I'd rather word a beautiful letter to her so she 47 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: didn't hate me. So I got chat GPT to break 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: up with her instead. How would you feel if you're 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: being broken up with to not get a phone call 50 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: because it's a big deal to face someone. I mean, 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: you and I haven't had to do it because we 52 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: were married for one hundred years. I don't know how 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: the dating scene works that if you constantly are going 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: on a series of coffee dates or dates and you're 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: both evaluating how you feel, you're constantly letting people down, 56 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: it'd be very hard. But getting a letter lets you 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: off the hawk. But how do you feel being dropped 58 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: by a letter? 59 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tricky one. What's happened in your past? 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: You've had our relationships before your marriage? What happened? How 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: did you split up? 62 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: Although were long term relationships being a year you were there. 63 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: But you had a long term relationship. 64 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: You almost engaged, And that's not almost engaged. I'll be 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: living with someone from review. That's that's a serious relationshipferent 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: to that. 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: How did that end? 68 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: How did it did you get did you get Oh, 69 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: we broke up, got back together, broke up, got back together. 70 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: Finally said, I don't think you know. 71 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: I think it's so you both just said it was 72 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: a mutual thing. 73 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: Kind of though it's always easy if it's done to you, 74 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: because that way there's no question. You can't sort of 75 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 2: debate whether you should have done it or not. But 76 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: long term relationships can't end with a letter unless you 77 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: peel Collins and you do it via facts. 78 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: That's right. 79 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: Remember that and his daughter now Lily Collins is a 80 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: famous actress. But he dropped her mum, Jill via Fax, 81 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: and they had been married, had a kid. But imagine 82 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: it's coming up from the office of Phil Collins. 83 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: You broad But what it feels written here you are. 84 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: Drap Which way is it going? 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Well? 86 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: What I guess this is the stuff you use if 87 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: you haven't been in a relationship for long, As you said, 88 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: this is three dates? What did it's well what he 89 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: has said here, he said, it's like a Dear John 90 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: or Dear Janis letter. I can't remember the exact words 91 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: he said, but it was basically an expanded it's not you, 92 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: it's me talking about how I'm not ready to commit. 93 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm not mentally in the right place. I don't want 94 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: to waste her time while I figure things out. And 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: she said it was beautifully crafted, and she said, it's 96 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: really nice of you to say all that. So she 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: was happy and he was happy, so maybe it's okay. 98 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: Imagine if her response was chat GTP as. 99 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, So she just said give him the finger, and 100 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 2: then this beautifully crafted response comes out. 101 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: Ai is talking to Ai, and Ai. 102 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: Starts going out. It's like Rock Sanxander, the movie Rocks Anne. 103 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: It's based on Cyrano de bergeract with and the big nose, 104 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: giant honking nose. And this beautiful girl is big weeoed 105 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: by this guy. So he writes these beautiful letters, these 106 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: beautiful speeches, beautiful romantic speeches, and she falls in love 107 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 2: with the language. And so by the time she realizes 108 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: that it's a big nose doing it, she that she 109 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 2: loves a big nose. Wouldn't have picked it. G P 110 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: t q I. Harris couldn't have done that. 111 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: It certainly couldn't. 112 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: Okay, kids, that's it for today. Come back tomorrow for 113 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 2: more of Josey andaman is cutting room floor.