1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy the Man of 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: Arms for the pub test this morning. Everyone that joins 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: us at the bar on the pub test and gets 5 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: on the air gets five hundred dollars thanks to Coming 6 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: to America the sequel on Amazon. 7 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: How cool is that today we're discussing Doctor Seuss books. 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: Do they pass the pub test? Six of his books 9 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 3: have been permanently pulled from publication after a panel of 10 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 3: experts deemed that the books betrayed some people is quote 11 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 3: hateful and wrong and old fashioned stereotypes. 12 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: The books are just not a representative of diversity. They 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: show black and brown characters, and when they do, they're 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: in really negative stereotype. Always to human eye, black and 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: brown people people of color show them as subservia. 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was a kid, I remember, and to 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 2: think I saw it on Mulberry Street, a chinaman who 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: eats with sticks that always just has that this visceral 19 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: flashback of being a kid and reading that book. 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Also using language like they wear their eyes at a slant, 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: and they were Africans with large hoops through their noses. 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: These were various stereotypical images of how people in other 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: countries looked and lived, and these were written between forty 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: seven and seventy six. 25 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's easy for me as a white guy 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: to say that, you know, it doesn't affect me in 27 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: any way. But then in time any mini miney mo, 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: we change that. Yeah? 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: Is this an appropriate way for kids to be taught 30 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: about people in other countries these days? So those books 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: have been permanently pulled? Doctor Seuss books? Do they passed 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: the pub test? 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 34 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: Does pass the pup test. 35 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: When these books were written, they had well attentions. And 36 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 4: do you know what, I'm going to read it from 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 4: my kids too. Yeah, I reckon the world's born in 38 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: this too far. I think it's brilliantly creative books and 39 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 4: THEO I think so they were written a really long 40 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 4: time ago, and I don't think it passes a pub test. 41 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: They should be allowed to stay on the shelf. 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: No, I think it's the wrong. I think we grew 43 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: up at these books. Where's the end? How many books 44 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: are going to take away? 45 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: Leave them alone? 46 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: Leave the books alone. 47 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: Leave the books alone? Thank you for all It costs 48 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars pro eround. They got on there pretty 49 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Good Jonesy and Amanda's gamnation