1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Part two of the three part series Miriam Muggley's Australia 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: un Masters on tonight on the ABC at eight thirty. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: This show is about Miriam traveling. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Around Australia to see if the notion that everyone is 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: given the fair chance, you know, the chance at a 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: fair go in Australia is true. 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: And Miriam's joining us now good morning. 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 3: Well for me, it's good evening because I'm actually in London. 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Oh good evening. 10 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 4: Then good evening here. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: Now. 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: On tonight's episode, you travel through Victoria to experience polo 13 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: matches and Bogan burnouts to explore what class looks like 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: in Australia and how much it shapes us. 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: How would you compare the class system in Australia to 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: the UK. 17 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: On the whole? I think the class system in England 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: is about who your parents were, and in Australia it's 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: about how much money you have. 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, as simple as that, Miriam. What about the 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: Bogan experience? Did you see you have plenty of mullets 22 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 4: and get the burnout? 23 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: I did. I saw lots of the high fades and mullets, 24 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: and I really had a very good time, a much 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: better time than I expected. It was extremely scary, not 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: because of the people, but because of the cars. I 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: was hung round in a car that I wouldn't normally 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: get into to say, and it was really terrifying. But 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: I was with such a sweet young man. I felt 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: I was being looked after. I think Bogans is a 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: word that maybe middle class people used to describe people 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: that they don't quite plot with. They don't quite understand 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: because the Bogans that I met they have ghastly music. 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: That's true. I didn't like their music. They were generous 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: and friendly and welcoming. It was a community and so 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: I'm on the Bogan's side from now on. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 4: Very good. 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: Well, I think most of us love a bogan. 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: It's just there's nothing really that offensive other than their 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: hair about a Bogan. 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: To be fair, well, I don't like people wee wieing 42 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 3: in the street, that's all. You know. 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a Bogan to see that happen. 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: That can strike at all level before the race has 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: even been run. 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: Will you come to Perth in the final episode. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately COVID stopped. I'm reliably informed that I will 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: be coming in the next episode, which we will do 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: in April. 50 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: You have to come here and we'll play some bog 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 4: music and we'll head bang to a CDC together. 52 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: I love w A. I've been there several times for 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: holidays and I made a lovely film there. Yes, yeah, 54 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: no Albany, I have to say, oh. 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: Yes it is Albany. 56 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Now you mentioned you're in the UK. How were you 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: there for the heat wave last week? Howd of just survived? 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 3: Yes? It was. It was just horrible. I really hated it, 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: absolutely hated it. I'm not good in an extreme tropical 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: heat and it was like tropical heat. It was just 61 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: beastly and I've got fans. I don't have air con 62 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: in my house, but I do have fans, so I 63 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: just lay with my legs apart under a fat That 64 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: was about the best imatic. 65 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: Sure we're going to explore that more, but we probably 66 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: weren't right now. Speaking of fans, you have fans all 67 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: over the world for various races, as many call you 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: Professors Brown of course for Harry Potter reasons. But the 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: Instagram thing is full of I don't think you're actually 70 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: on Instagram officially, are you? Was it just your fans? 71 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: Because I know you're you're a TikTok person. There are 72 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 4: so many accounts in your name. 73 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Actually, no, I don't have a 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't have a TikTok account, and I don't have 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: an Instagram account. I'm on Facebook. I like Facebook, and 76 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 3: I've got you know, chums on Facebook, but they're chums. 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: I know. I don't want chums. I don't know because 78 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: when you get to. 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: My age, I I mean, I don't have a billion 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: friends on Facebook because why if I'm not friends with 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: you in real life, why do I want? 82 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: Am I going to accept your random request on Facebook? 83 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: I feel exactly the same. It's very nice that people 84 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: like me enough to want to be friends, but you know, sorry, mate, 85 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 3: times times too short. I'm eighty one. I've probably only 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 3: got another five years. I'd rather spend it with people 87 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: I like and know. 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: This is why You've got a memoir out. It's called 89 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: This Much Is True. Hilarious stories, some shocking stories from 90 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: your colorful life and career, including working with Leo DiCaprio 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: and partying with Prince Charles. I'm not sure which order 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: i'd want to do those two things in, But what 93 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: was a working life? 94 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: It's all part of life's rich pattern. I'm very proud 95 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: to say that my book is number one in. 96 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: The Uktistic congratulations. 97 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: I never expected that because I'm not a writer, but 98 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: I thought, if I'm going to write a book, I've 99 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: got to write everything that's happened to me. I'm not 100 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: going to I'm not going to filter it. And so 101 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: although it's very well written because I wrote it, there 102 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: are incidents in it and stories in it that are 103 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: not for the general reader. So I always say, don't 104 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: give it to your grandma because it might upset them. 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: The last thing would want is a watered down memoir 106 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: from you. We want the full story. I would like 107 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: to see here some of these stories. Alan Coming one 108 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world. You did a 109 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: show with him during Scotland. What's it like going on 110 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: the road with Alan Coming? 111 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: It's delightful. The thing I love most is that he's 112 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 3: so kind because I'm an old lady and I don't 113 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: climb up and down out of camper vans very easily, 114 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 3: and he's always there with a helping hand. He puts 115 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: the stool out for me to put my let it down. 116 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: And it was such a success. Our series we're doing 117 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: another one, so I'm seeing him again. We're going to 118 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: Scotland and we're going to America. We're going to California 119 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: because we're visiting places that have a sentimental attachment for us, 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: and we both work in California. I didn't want to 121 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: go to New York because I know he lives there. 122 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: I can't stand New York's places on Earth that I 123 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: really don't like. But I lived in Los Angeles and 124 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: I had a good time there. And we're going up 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: Route sixty. 126 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: Six, beautiful old school. 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: In a convertible. 128 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do a muscle car or something. 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: No, it'll be a camper van. In the camper van, 130 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: a toilet available when you get to my age. I 131 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: can't wait to go to the want to go to, want. 132 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: To look forward to it. 133 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: And so the only thing we could do was was 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: to have one of these. Yeah they call it a 135 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: camper van. Yeah. Yeah. The toilet was so narrow I 136 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: had to go in sideways. 137 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: I made it, made it most of them. 138 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: That's good. 139 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: You mentioned that Allen Covery is very quick to get 140 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: the store out, Speaking of which here in Australia, you 141 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: were the front of the front person of the advertising 142 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: campaign for bell cancer awareness in Australia. People need to 143 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 4: get tested and we get the free kit past to 144 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: the age of fifty, but. 145 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: They literally arrives the day after fiftieth first day. 146 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: Mariam you that was wonderful for you to do that, 147 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: very important. 148 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I really believe in that. I've always had my 149 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: colon oscar bes on time. I think it's very important. 150 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: And it's the same with the prostate cancer if you 151 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: catch these things early. Now we don't. We girls don't 152 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: get prostate. We've got other things that we get. But 153 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: you guys, you've got to go and get tested. You 154 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 3: mustn't be squeamish about it. Just go to the doctor. 155 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: What's those digits at the ready? 156 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Well, on that note, interesting, We can't wait to see 157 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: part two tonight and now that we know, we particularly 158 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: can't wait for part four next year when you make 159 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: your way over to w y It's always lovely to 160 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: talk to you, Miriam. 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. I'm loving Western Australia, especially 162 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: your beautiful theater in Perth that I've played there. 163 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 4: That you had imagine you should do a road trip 164 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: together to Albury. How good would that be? 165 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: Oh? 166 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean as long as it's toilet. Thank you, Mariam, 167 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: bless you,