1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: We're back. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: We're back like a black rash, except. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: We don't make you no, no, but I don't want 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: to be associated with a bad rash, not in the 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: year of this panoramic. 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's we don't know diseases. We're back like we 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: never left it so hot. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they're no rash talk anyway. Anyway, we're getting together. 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm ready. 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 4: I'm always always be careful. 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 5: Those little will use your head, they will tear you 12 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 5: up like a paper. 13 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: To Oh no, no, no. 14 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, oh no no no, then it's. 15 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 5: Knowledgey dollan in a way, it's a little faults. 16 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: Then I'll bring your down. 17 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 5: Chant to get your tipsy like a drinks love drunk girls. 18 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 4: Oh oh the town Oh no no, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 19 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Amanda and I'm Romb. Welcome to it's layered. 20 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: We're in along with the trendshift. Let's started over twenty 21 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: years ago when in high school. 22 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about all things like love, family, anything 23 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: and everything else under the sun. 24 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: Dum deeper with us because you like you know, she 25 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: name smileys. 26 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: A'm las girl. 27 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 3: Oh my god, how are you? 28 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: It feels like a long time ago. It's been a 29 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: long time. Shouldn't let you about beat step to stick 30 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: to stick, to stick to stick. 31 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 6: Baby girl? 32 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: Why do we do this Sunday things as well? 33 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: That's the part that brings the flavor. 34 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 3: That's why you know, you know the song and anyway. 35 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: When you know the beats the end of the timber pass, 36 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, Hey. 37 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 3: I remember I've missed you. How are you, my love? 38 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 6: Hi? 39 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: Cautiously surviving in twenty twenty two, you know, you know, 40 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: because experience has taught us twenty twenty twenty twenty one, 41 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: just got to move slow as you're in. 42 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: I was like the Matrix one and two lane literally 43 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 3: sequel think. 44 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: And they're not a revolution rapping a revolution and they 45 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: just released the new. 46 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 6: Yes. 47 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Anyway, I feel like, actually now I've got the point 48 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: where if I wish lights could go back to normal, 49 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: there's no such things. 50 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 3: Like those are going to be like the good old days. 51 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: Like it's literally like change agent like our parents. 52 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, back in my day, we didn't have to wear masks. 53 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: Back in my day, we don't have to keep two 54 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: meters distance between strangers. In my day, can you believe 55 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: we flew without wearing masks? 56 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: I know, no hand sanitized that unless you're sick for something. 57 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 6: But what have you been up to? 58 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I was getting excited, but it's all good, no matter, 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: because I say, I think ZIM only really knew about 60 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: sanitizer when we had the color outbreak, which is also 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: not a great thing. 62 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: Oh yes, I mean a. 63 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Lot of countries even with masks, Like I've got a 64 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: lot of Asian counterparts, like friends at work who used 65 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: to wear masks before when they were unwell, especially in 66 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: the cold or whatever. 67 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: So it wasn't such a new concept for all people. 68 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: But for this sustained amount of time. Oh yeah, mask 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: wearing is just. 70 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's real. It's really real. But how 71 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: are you? You asked me how I was, but I 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: didn't ask how are you? Switch? 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: I'm good, I'm good. Managed to do a little bit, 74 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: thank you, managed so do you? Girl? 75 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: Managed to do a little bit of travel just for 76 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: the system season. But then our other trip we had 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: planned to go to New Zealand was canceled, so thanks COVID. 78 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, literally good living life. 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: What can you do? 80 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: Trying to make a new normal? 81 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah normal, I want to lie it's real. Yeah I know, 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: but as for me, similar to you, managed to travel 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: locally over the festive period and thankfully in the summer. 84 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: Last year, dang Our season three we finished recording in summer. Anyway, 85 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: it's been that long. I managed to go to Dubai 86 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: thankfully and got reunited with my parents and my sister. 87 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: That was the cherry on top of my can imagine 88 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: bo sure, like wow, it was amazing. 89 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: How was it to travel though at that time, like 90 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: with COVID and stuff. 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: It was the eport this side and the park airport 92 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: was like eerily like quiet, Like I was like, where 93 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: are we right now? You know, and you can tell 94 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: it's like the determined people who are traveling, if that 95 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: makes sense. Yeah, mission the ones are like hey, bra 96 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: I gotta make this seem but yeah, in terms of 97 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 2: the overall process, like they just really checked our PC 98 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 2: artists on check it at check in and yeah, you 99 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: just the funny thing is they actually to keep two 100 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: meters distance between each other even when you're lining up 101 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: to board the plane. But when you're on the plane, 102 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: I mean you're sitting next to you're, yeah, you're literally 103 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: breathing the same air exactly. But no, it was it 104 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: was okay, like We had a good experience, knock on ward. 105 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: None of us got sick and we were all healthy, 106 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: even my parents coming from Zim to Dubai and my sister. 107 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: They were all fine. But it was strange. The Dubai 108 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: airport was busy, but they had people point guards. It 109 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: was quite interesting when they saw my Zimbabwe and password. 110 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 2: Then they asked, but where are you flying from? And 111 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, check Republic. But I didn't have 112 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 2: to take another PC artist on arrival, but my parents 113 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: and sister had to because they were flying from Zim. 114 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Just like, no, all this dynamo politics where you come 115 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: from now? 116 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Definitely yeah, yeah, but yeah, I was good, and 117 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: you know, they managed COVID quite well. I think they 118 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: understand the importance of tourism for them, so they're not 119 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: being engaged in. But it was awesome. Yeah, it was 120 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: really really great. 121 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, so many things happened in Dubai. I'm just 122 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: gonna act like I don't know, but my girl got engaged. 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Tom met the parents, My god got engaged. 124 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: We have so much to tell you. 125 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: As the season, I'm. 126 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Told about all these pivotal. 127 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 3: Things that have been happening. 128 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: So how exciting congratulations. 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: Thank you. 130 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: I was so shocked, like people are like, didn't you know, 131 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he's coming to meet your parents, your parents 132 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: agreed to fly, and he's gonna be like bruh. I 133 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: was stressed enough trying to plan this trip, like there 134 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: can we all get they can all get their help. 135 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: So I think it truly, truly was a surprise, and 136 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: it really warmed my heart, just his thoughtfulness about the 137 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: whole engagement, wanting me to be with family so they 138 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 2: could celebrate me, and wanting us to be in sort 139 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: of our middle ground country because for the most part, 140 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: when you travel to zimm you have to travel through 141 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: the UAE. So he didn't, you know, he didn't want 142 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: us to be like just here in the Czech Republic 143 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: or Justin didn't like have a middle ground like we're 144 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: both like emotion type of you know. Yeah, that was 145 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: really special. I must say, totally caught me off by surprise. 146 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: I think Amanda. I called Amanda and I was like, 147 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: oh right, gys like, yeah, I know. 148 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: We definitely need to go into super details. So let's 149 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: bench this topic come back, because we'll go down a 150 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: rabbit hole and today we're fully talking about travel. 151 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, something that we both love to do. 152 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: What do you love about travel the most? 153 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: I think it just shows me how large and ride 154 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: and expensive this world is, and how just by change 155 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 2: of environment or place, your perspective can change on life. 156 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: You can see that all's well and all will be 157 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: well if people are able to exist in this place 158 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: that maybe thousands of kilometers from you and thrive. It's 159 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: like you're not doomed, you know what I mean. Like 160 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: there's more to life. There's more to experience of course, culture, people, 161 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, different amazing places you can There's so much 162 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: to travel. But it's a feeling. I don't know how 163 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: to put it. It's just that feeling that you get 164 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: and when you think of a place, you just know, oh, 165 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: that's what it felt like to be there. You are 166 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: an avid, avid traveler matter so you break it up. 167 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Girl, This like this panoramic has just made me happy 168 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: because yeah, like I don't think, like literally my passport 169 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: was about to be too full, but then now stop traveling. 170 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: So it's just sitting there like mocking me. Yeah, it's 171 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: been so weird. 172 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: It feels like a part of me has just been 173 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: like ripped from me because I don't know one of 174 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: those people. Work hard, play hard. Yes, so like I 175 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: would do one needs to be done, check the boxes 176 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: and then I will literally be looking forward to a 177 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: trip wherever, and like this has been so humbling, Like 178 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: I don't mind domestic traveling and local traveling, but nothing 179 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: beats being on a like long international flight, new culture, 180 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: new changing your money, seeing a different currencies, like everything. 181 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 2: Just starting your money. 182 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 7: Let's start this, Yes, learning how to say thank you 183 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 7: and please quickly quick fast hello, and another language like oh, 184 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 7: to say I miss it is like. 185 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: An understatement and like I think I love the most. 186 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: As you said, it just takes you to a different 187 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: part of yourself. You always come back like wow, I 188 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: didn't know that about me, or yeah I know my limits, 189 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: or I don't know. 190 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 6: I just feel like. 191 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: There's nothing that can Like people always say in a 192 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: new relationship or in a relationship, you should travel with 193 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: someone because yeah, you really will see who they are 194 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: when things frustrate you or make you happy. 195 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: And it really makes I love that's a quotable right there. 196 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: It makes you see things about yourself and you're like 197 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: yeah really kind of yeah, yeah, be. 198 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 3: Like oh I'm easy going. And then when you travel 199 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: with them, You're like. 200 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: We have different definitions of easy. 201 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm not fasty with my food, and then when I 202 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: get somewhere is like, wasn't this? 203 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: Wasn't that? 204 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, fussy and it's okay, it's okay, but. 205 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: Just know yourself. 206 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: Just claim it. So do you know like the like 207 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: breakdown of how many countries, how much travel you've done, 208 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: and how many places because you know some people it's 209 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: like even on their bios on social media countries in 210 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: the world. 211 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, because he's fifty in Africa, I know geography. 212 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 3: It's not just from Queen my girls. 213 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Really, isn't you should ask a man. I must be like, okay, 214 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: you know time zones, mess me up. 215 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: Girl, have me out? 216 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 1: Or what's this plow? I mean it's like you got 217 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: it together with everything else. So it's so endearing that 218 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: this is like your one thing. 219 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: Like it messages up. 220 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: I will apply I claim it. 221 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: I claim it. 222 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 6: I don't know. 223 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: It's funny you talk about social media and like I've 224 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: never actually sat down and like written or recorded ever 225 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: I've been I know which continents because that way, I'm 226 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: like I've been dying to go to Antarctica. I don't 227 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: ask me, but obviously that's like a content I haven't 228 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: been in on. And like even mysel got like you 229 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: got like an offer to go and work there for 230 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: a bit, and I was like pushing here, I was 231 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: a girl, you should go because I was like, thank 232 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: you live vicuriously through you. It didn't end up working out, 233 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: but like that's just the way. 234 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: Like I think, I just want to see things. I 235 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: like things. I like think, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What 236 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 3: about you? We're like, have you did you do a 237 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: lot of travel when you were still in South Africa? 238 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: I know obviously we know you grew up in Ghana 239 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: and South Africa for a bit, traveling as a tourist. 240 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's always been a part I think, even 241 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: from a young age locally too. We've spoken about this, 242 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 2: I think I don't know if on the podcast, but 243 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: we've definitely spoken about it about how my parents, even 244 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: when you were young, it was about traveling locally. And 245 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: then obviously because we moved, we traveled to move where 246 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: we were living and within those areas and regions we 247 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: traveled too. So when we lived in Gha, we went 248 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: to Togo, we went to corp de Vois and like France, 249 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: we did Europe, and then when we lived in South Africa, 250 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: we did I think we did Botswana. Yes, we did Botswana. 251 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: I've been to you know what I mean, Like depending 252 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: on where we where, we traveled around. So it's sort 253 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: at a young age, and I think that's what built 254 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: this wonder Last thing in me where I always wanted 255 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: to go places like yeah, so girls and person like 256 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: I can't even yeah yeah. 257 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: And I agree with you though about the young age 258 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: thing because like, obviously we're very privileged to even have 259 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: experienced those type of childhoods, but I think also our parents, 260 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: Like I think sometimes it was a chance to see 261 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: your parents, like just be free, like not necessarily do 262 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: what's expected or do family things, but you could do family, 263 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously African families it's all about extended family. 264 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: But when you're traveling, it becomes more nuclear. And I 265 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: think it's kind of nice because you think back on 266 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: those memories and it's only like the four of you, 267 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the five of you whatever, like not every single person. 268 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah so yeah, I think. 269 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, I co signed with you with wonder 270 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: Last Like I love traveling and I hope I'm able 271 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: to like provide that and keep doing that in my 272 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: life because I really cannot like imagine my life. 273 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: Not being able to do it A thousand percent. Yeah, 274 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm with you, But yeah, I think I think it's 275 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: something that I wish everyone could have to do it 276 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: from a young age, like you have to if you can. 277 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: It's it changes you as a person, just to your 278 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: perspective and how you engage with people in the world. 279 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: So yeah, so now, like it's so hard. 280 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: I know people hate this question, like what was the 281 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: best trip or best country or best place you ever 282 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: went to? It's because different places give you different things, 283 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: But what's a trip that stood out hardcore for you 284 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: that really maybe it was amazing or it was a 285 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: life changer or it was just great fun. Like do 286 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: you have a one? You know what? 287 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: When I was thinking about doing this episode with your 288 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: was like, girl, I'm gonna have answer that question. Yes, 289 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: it's so tough, but I think I got two. So 290 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to cheat a little bit about one. 291 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: When I was in a group obviously with you and we. 292 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: All met in Thailand. That is such a it's such 293 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: a beautiful trip for me. Not only was I celebrating 294 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: my thirtieth, but I was also leaving to come to Melbourne. 295 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: You managed to come on the trip as well, so 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: it was it like the whole time. Sometimes I think 297 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: about it, I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't believe 298 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: that actually we actually pulled it off and everyone came. 299 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: And so I think like that for me, having your 300 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: people around you and just enjoying your life, Like. 301 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: There was no purpose to that trip. 302 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to go away for thirtieth, 303 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: but it was like a moment to take a stick 304 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: back and celebrate, and I think I don't tend to 305 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: do that enough, Like for yourself, it was just yeah, 306 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: for myself, like oh my god, this is my thirtieth 307 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing something. Usually I'm like, okay, it's a birthday. 308 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: So like it was just so having one of your 309 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: friends around you. 310 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really really love that trip. 311 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: And I think for another trip that I've done, and 312 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: I think just because the culture was so different, there 313 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: was so much to learn. 314 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: Was when we went to Brazil, because it's so it's 315 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: so similar to like Zoom and Africa, but so different 316 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: at the same time. 317 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: Yes, and I think I just didn't know what to 318 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: expect so like no expectations, but at such a fun 319 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: time and the people are beautiful in some one of 320 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: those countries where I'm like, I need to go back 321 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: to South America. So I think like for me, those 322 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: two trips are like, yeah, just so dear to me. 323 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: What about for you? 324 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: I think for me definitely, like I will just have 325 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: to say the Thailand trip because it was such a 326 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: pivotal moment too for me personally that was able to 327 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 2: go and be there with you and our friends and 328 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: it was and just be young and free and reckless, 329 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: because I think I like reckless in a good way people, 330 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: But like name it was, No, I think it's more 331 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: just like I spend a lot of time like approved, 332 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: like wanted to be approved by whether it's my family 333 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: or whatever, like a lot of decisions just like where 334 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: it's all about am I doing this right? Is this 335 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 2: the right thing? And overthinking there I literally you know 336 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: they say, be in the moment. I was in the moment. Yeah, 337 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: like each day, each moment, each like I fully ate 338 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: up the joy in that I was eating my enjoyment. 339 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: To the fullest with that enjailment. 340 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: Do y. Yeah, So I think definitely. And I think, 341 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: like you said, the friendship the conversations because we didn't 342 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: oh we really did was like eat, chill and pass. 343 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 6: It was just like. 344 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: I started and start debates because you know you're talking boys. 345 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: Someone brings up a topic and all you needed. 346 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: But it was nice, yeah, because I think we only 347 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: did something really cultural the second last day before we left. 348 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 5: I left. 349 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: I remember like that's when like, okay, maybe you should 350 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: go see a temple, but. 351 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: You know, even finding a club that was like playing 352 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: afro b yeah was fun, like even the yacht day 353 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: and like just so many I think it just. 354 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 8: Showed you what real rests looks like, Yes, you know, 355 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 8: like guilt free, enjoy your life with all your friends, 356 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 8: like it's got you know, you're not traveling for any 357 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 8: sort of purpose apart from rest and bands and laughs 358 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 8: and yeah. 359 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 3: So it was good such a. 360 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, but any are there anythings that, like any 361 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: places you've been that were like I could have done 362 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: it at the strip or this wasn't so great, like 363 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: can you even pinpoint like. 364 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: That was lack luster, like scared, not really like enjoys. 365 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 3: I think I was fine. 366 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: Try to find something that I'm like that I like 367 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: about a place, and especially because I'm a foodie. Once 368 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: you take me to somewhere with the restaurant and eat 369 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: the local food, I'm like, okay, like this is fun. 370 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: You know, I make that fun. 371 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: But I do remember going through America because we went 372 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: from the West coast to the East coast, so we 373 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: will do a lot of different and never getting to 374 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: San Francisco, and we were staying in downtown San Francisco 375 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: and I'd been on holiday mode. You know, you go 376 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: to Napa Valley, you see the wines. So when I 377 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: got to downtown San Francisco, I went we drove past 378 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: skid Row, so like we're all the homeless people are 379 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: and remember it, like oh not back into reality? 380 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, like like you know, you just get reminded. 381 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: And I think we grew up on American media, American entertainment, 382 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: and our idea of America is like, wow, this country 383 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: amazing and like it is, but at the same time, 384 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: it's pretty third world, Like yes, like it's it's a 385 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: souper dark third world sometimes, like you think. 386 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: Of the healthcare system, you think what they do with 387 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: their war vets, and you think of like you're. 388 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Just like but it's not that America, I. 389 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, version, yeah, just like what is going on? 390 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 6: Like why are there so. 391 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Many people were suffering and need help? And this is 392 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: meant to be like so I think it was almost 393 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: like behind the valve row, yes, because it was like, 394 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, there's Beverly Hills, there's Calabases, but there 395 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: is skid row, like you know what I mean, And 396 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: like it was just so confronting when you're in that 397 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: bubble of being on a holiday and then now you're thinking, oh, open, oh, 398 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: don't get mugged, like and I know it sounds really 399 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sound. 400 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: Elitist, but it was so in a way so heartbreaking. 401 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: I think it's honest, Like I don't know, if you've 402 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: flown into Cape Town Airport and then you airport and 403 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: then you have the shacks and all. 404 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: Yes, what about when they put the wollaps if I 405 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: kept down anyway, Yes, But I think it's that sentiment. 406 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: Is that jarring, like this place that's sold as being 407 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 2: this amazing destination and then it hits you like oh, 408 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: like they with every destination there's something to it, and 409 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: especially in such a really in your face way. So yeah, 410 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: you're right. Yeah. I remember when I went to the 411 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: US the first time, I was in Texas and I 412 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: just think I don't have a place that I was like, oh, 413 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: I enjoyed America and parts, but I felt like it's 414 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: too commercial, like capitalism has like great in the in 415 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: the foud back of what America is. You know, you're 416 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: driving down a highway and your brain cannot rest because 417 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: it's just billboard billboard bilbil like down the road, like 418 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: just all that. I think that for me was the 419 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: really jarring thing. It's like whoa, you know, And I 420 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 2: completely understand what you mean about the inequalities that are 421 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: there that aren't always portrayed and shown. So that's quite 422 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: interesting for sure, And I agree, I do agree like this, 423 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah anyhow, Yeah, what about traveling as a black woman. 424 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: Obviously, like when you travel, people are like hey, Beyonce, 425 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Like when you go through Asia and they're like yeah, Beyonce, 426 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: like you know, like what. 427 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 3: Can you do with the first person or like one 428 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: of the few black people this person has to. 429 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, or or they're like if you go for a massage, 430 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: like retouching your skin, like it's gonna rub off, you know, 431 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: like the black is going to come off like so 432 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: that thought is like, oh okay, it's very different. And 433 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: I think in some spaces as well that I've occupied, 434 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: it's almost like people treat you like you don't belong. 435 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: So fly fly somewhere business or first class. It's like, 436 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: oh no, man, this is the first class line, this 437 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: is the business and you're like, I mean. 438 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 6: That, I'd like like. 439 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: For me, let me ask, but it's like that treatment 440 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: that you're like wow, like don't like, yeah, you're made 441 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: you feel like you don't belong, but you brought your ticket. 442 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: Like everyone else. I think there's some spaces you. 443 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 9: Occupy where you're like, there's a lot of there's a 444 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 9: big gap between black house traveling freely like any other 445 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 9: race like white girls can, and we're actually currently are. 446 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: People don't have that image of us, you know. 447 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: I remember even in France, this one time in France 448 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: actually with your cousin through a chilling with whole her friends. 449 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: And then they were like, oh so why are you 450 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: in France? Like why are you here from Australia holiday? 451 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: Like dude, and they're like what do you mean? 452 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: So it's like such a was like just go back, 453 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: don't you just go back to zim or go back 454 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: somewhere like close. 455 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: Why would you come all the way across the world. 456 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: But to me it was like why not. 457 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: So I feel like this gap between what people expect 458 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: from black people, especially black. 459 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 3: African people, in terms of travel. 460 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: It's almost like people just now associate us with oh, 461 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: you're therefore you go to the esport for better life, 462 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: that you. 463 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: Just work, work, work, work, work and send money home. 464 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: I've got a fulfilled life. I do other things like. 465 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Yes, I think being and then not to mention the 466 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: danger aspect of it, because as a woman, any woman, 467 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: some space travel and you're like whoa, Like maybe it's 468 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: not so safe. 469 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: Like when I got pick pocketed in Rome, I was. 470 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: Yes, please tell us, tell us yes. 471 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: I blame the public transport system for being so delayed. 472 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: Like I remember, we've been waiting for our bus to 473 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: like I think it was half an hour, almost an 474 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: hour actually, And so now the crowd, like insie was 475 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: just a few of us, but as one more people 476 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: wait for the next us, you're just adding on ad 477 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 2: adding on. And we we hadn't been able to get 478 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: into the one bus because it was so full. So 479 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: when the next bus came. 480 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: We're like, we in this beach but where foreigner. 481 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: Is right, So you're trying to check how many stops 482 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: you have to take, and literally I was on my phone. 483 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 2: Luckily I was holding my phone, and luckily my sister 484 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: had my us traveling with my sister, she had my 485 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: sport in her bag, so she was holding her bag, 486 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: and so obviously I'm holding I was holding on the 487 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: like the rail rail key balance, holding my phone to check, 488 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: so I couldn't really hold I couldn't hold my handbag. 489 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 2: Then we get off the bus and now I'm like 490 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 2: checking for my purse or like literally and I'm like 491 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: someone took my wallet, and I know who it was. 492 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: These ladies they saw and then they were like she 493 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: kept pushing up against me and I kept moving, but 494 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: like she kept pushing and was squashed literally, and then 495 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: they got off like a few stops before us. So 496 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: I basically they targeted and figured it out. I was 497 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 2: so bitsy. I was like, you should have just left 498 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: me with my zim ID and zim driver's license because. 499 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: Those two things are to replace them. 500 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: How you could take the money but give me back, 501 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, I think in terms of traveling 502 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: as a black woman. You've said it all. And I 503 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: even saw when we were flying back from Dubai at 504 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: the airport, the guy there was a family before us, 505 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: a Czech family. They're like, oh, how was your trip? 506 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: You're so friendly with them, like, oh good. Then he 507 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: sees me. I gave him my passport first, and he's 508 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 2: like where were you? And I was like, Dubai, what 509 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: were you doing? I was on holiday? How long was 510 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: your holiday? A week? And like he's giving me a 511 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: hard time. And then Tom came next to me, this 512 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: is my fiancee, and then the tune kind of changed 513 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: when they saw I was with him, but it was 514 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: still kind of like who you you know what I 515 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: mean Like, So that distinction is made, and it's often 516 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: gatekeepers who give you the hardest time, especially when you travel. 517 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: It happens same thing when I We've spoken about passport 518 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: privilege before, when I was flying to Czech Republic for 519 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: the first time, it was in South Africa, and again 520 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: in Dubai when I was connecting that I was given 521 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 2: the hardest time. So it's things like that. There's also fetishizing, 522 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: like depending on where you go, like holiday destination, like 523 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: people are like, oh, I want a piece of you, 524 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, there's. 525 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 3: Never seen a black girl. 526 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, or I've always wanted to be with 527 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: or whatnot. 528 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so fascinating. Oh yeah it is. 529 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: I remember when in Vegas actually and I went to 530 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: a script club and guys was like, oh Australia, I 531 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: don't know, they came in your color. 532 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: And you're like, there's black Australians. 533 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: There's actually indigenous Australians who were black too, like you know, 534 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: just like people's perceptions of countries and what then you 535 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: didn't see when you land, Like a lot of people 536 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: get so shocked when they come to Australia they see 537 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: such a vast Asian community because they all think clear 538 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: Mohm's were skippy. 539 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 3: You know, that's like to. 540 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: Reference like seriously, and you're like, actually, there's more to Australia. 541 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 6: Travel. 542 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: See this is why, as you said, because then you 543 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: would never think that, you know. 544 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: And it's funny you just shared your story because I 545 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: do remember coming back from from Brazil and there was 546 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: two of my friends as well at the airport were 547 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: all checking in and then so happened to be. But 548 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: whilst when the lines is pre COVID, so you all 549 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: up in people's spaces. The lady before was Australian, so 550 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: we got to chip chat and. 551 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: We're like, oh my god, where have you been? Oh 552 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: my god? Brazil. 553 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Then she went up to check in for checked into 554 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: her bag, was waved what bording past given? 555 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: Go we go up to the thing. And Brazil has 556 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: a colorism and racism issue as well. 557 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: A lot of who sometimes would see us as a 558 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: group of Africans traveling and what realized we're African, they'll 559 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: think we're Portuguese that we think were naked natives. So 560 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: even at the soccer games we'll be like ah, but 561 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: I say, I'm like, oh no, actually zimba there. And 562 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: one of my friends has dreadlocks, which is also like 563 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: very typical Islanders live in Brazil. So like anyway, she 564 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: was checking in, so they are already suspicious of us 565 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: because like where they believe black because they already have 566 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 1: that in their culture. 567 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: Where these black folks going, you know. 568 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: So she literally wanted to see the credit card we 569 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: bought the tickets with. Yeah, like we have the right, 570 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: and I was like but she literally we all got 571 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: Australian passports. The lady just before us, who so happens 572 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: to be white and also Australian. I didn't see asking her. 573 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, but it's two hours to our discretion, and 574 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I was like, manager, please give me a manager. They 575 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: should speak fast to be like okay, sorry, ma'am. 576 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: No, this is checks out. 577 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: What if I was gifted to this and I don't 578 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: have the credit card? 579 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: Like exactly how does work? 580 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: Like this is so rude, but like you just realized 581 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: that sometimes you kind of escape race and people's perceptions. 582 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 2: Of it is. Yeah, now I'm with you. It's so late, 583 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: and we could actually just have a whole episode on 584 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: all those experiences and the layered perceptions or looks or 585 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 2: the treatment or. 586 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 6: The like you really cool. 587 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: It's a lot, it's a lot. What's your dream? Well, 588 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: you alluded to Antarctica being one of your dream destinations, 589 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: it seems, but like, what are the others that are 590 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: that on your I don't. 591 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: Bra I'm probably like so bad. 592 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: I could go anywhere, I don't have I have to 593 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: go here, I think, apart from Antarctica, everywhere else feels doable, 594 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, it's just a matter. 595 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of if I can go and 596 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: if I want to go, and the opportunity comes. But 597 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: so I don't really have like a set this is 598 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: my dream. There's a lot of places I would like 599 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: to go again. 600 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: But then I. 601 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes think, ah, but if I go there and I 602 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: can't go here, yes, there's place, there are more places 603 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: to go to and see. Yeah, but when it comes 604 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: to my own continent, oh my gosh, there's so much more. Aware. 605 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: I want to go to Ghana as like an adult 606 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: and enjoy the nightlife. I want to go to Morocco 607 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: and like bury myself in Tajen, like literally want to 608 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: just eat in Morocco. So like I have places where 609 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm like more African inspired places because I feel like 610 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: our continent has so much to offer, and when such 611 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: a hurry to like leave, you know, to go to 612 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: the West or you know, like and we forget that 613 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: we have so much in our own backyard. 614 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 3: And also it's expensive, right, Yeah. 615 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: I think that's what pisses me off is like these 616 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: taxes even just like zoom to essay, the tax on 617 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 2: a fleet is just like seriously, y'all, like really yeah. 618 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: And like a lot of people like my brother right 619 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: now is for work is traveling through Africa a lot 620 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: and talking about the Gambia and you're like, wow, We've 621 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: got so much to. 622 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 3: Offer, and like I need to see more of where 623 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 3: I come from, Like it's a bit shameful for sure. 624 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 2: I agree, and we need to be doing West Africa together. 625 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: I would also like to go to Senegal, not just 626 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: fly through, but actually like be there. That's on my list. 627 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: In terms of African countries, Kenya is on my list 628 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: because I just love how they it all like they've 629 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: got beaches and then they mountain, like they've just go culture, 630 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 2: They're so blessed. Variety, yeah, variety for sure. And then 631 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: I want to go Bali Bally has always been I 632 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: think I watched Love and it really hit home with 633 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: me for something A lot people I want to be 634 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: living in the rice paddies and just like you know, 635 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 2: out there meditaneous with the mosquitoes and South America for sure. 636 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: Like I would love to go to Chile. I would 637 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: love to go to Argent Like I just feel there's 638 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 2: so much to be seen and like experience there that 639 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 2: we do not often get portrayed. Like I'm just like, yeah, 640 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: that's I. 641 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 3: Think culturally diverse countries. 642 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Are always attractive, Yeah, because you know you're going to 643 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: get like four or five trips in one you know. 644 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: Like like I found that with America a bit after 645 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: a while. I was like, because I seemed I think 646 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: I've seen so much on TV. It's not familiar. Yeah, 647 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: it's like, oh yeah, I know about this, Oh yeah, 648 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: I know about that. 649 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: You know. 650 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: So it's almost like the discovery becomes a bit less. 651 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: But go to countries where you don't see so much 652 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: about them in the media or whatever, you like, just 653 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: stay in discovery mode. 654 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: And I would recommend One of my absolute favorite shows 655 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 2: on Netflix is Chef's Table, and that is also a 656 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 2: beautiful way to travel, like through food and through these 657 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: chefs stories, because it's more than just about the food. 658 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: It's about the stories about where they get source their 659 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: ingredients and supporting a lot of the time local communities. 660 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 2: And there's some really amazing, amazing chef's profile on there. 661 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: My favorite season, which is also a screen save on 662 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: my phone. I don't know people can see yep, it's 663 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: season three. It's an episode I forget her name. She's in. 664 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 2: She's a South Korean monk and she just ah her 665 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: story and just the like. So that's another way I 666 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 2: feel like to try and like feed our little wonder lessness. 667 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: It's away for me. I really enjoyed that and learn 668 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: a lot and a lot of things are opened up 669 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: to me that way. 670 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: It's just so like yeah, yeah, or even foreign films 671 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: as well, it's a good way to. 672 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: Another place. I mean like when even when we talked 673 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 3: about the cocoas and stuff, it'd be nice to go 674 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 3: to see what exactly exactly you know, all these. 675 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: Like original series coming out of South Africa and you 676 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: see when they do the landscape and you're like, my god, 677 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: like you know what I. 678 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,400 Speaker 2: Like when they were yeah, and then they did is 679 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: really dope. That was really really do But yeah, just 680 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: my two cents on that, Like it's it's it's really amazing, 681 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: and it's so fascinating. You can watch something and have 682 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: a perception of what your experience there would be, and 683 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: when you travel it's like, oh, it's a little different 684 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 2: to what I assumed it should be, like amazing, travels amazing. 685 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: So are you really into travel blogs then like just 686 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: following people who travel or I do enjoy it a lot. 687 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: I especially if I want to go somewhere or just 688 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: want to see I must say I struggle though. A 689 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: lot of travel loves are very curated. Like I remember 690 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 2: when we were going to Dubai. I was watching a 691 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: lot of them and it was like my trip most expensive. 692 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: It's like, no, I just want to like have like 693 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 2: a rooted, rounded experience. But I do enjoy that for sure. 694 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: I started to enjoy foreign films more than I used to, 695 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: Like I think, yeah, there's so much storytelling that doesn't 696 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: have to be in the in the kind of you know, 697 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: the what's the word, Like there's a recipe, there's a 698 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: Hollywood recipe of house films are made. There's a lot 699 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 2: of a lot of the blockbusters or the movies you see, 700 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: there's a recipe a lot of the time. But like 701 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: foreign films, it's like, oh wow, I didn't expect that. 702 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: Classic cases like Roma, if you've watched Roma, just the 703 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 2: way they told that story, it was brilliant. But yeah, 704 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: are there any upcoming trips for you, miss Amanda that 705 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 2: you are well start all over? 706 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know, COVID Please no, I don't please 707 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: don't icebox as please don't icebox like it goes without 708 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: saying for the first time in like yngks. For me, 709 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to going home because my girl will 710 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: be getting married. 711 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 3: No other trip comes to mind, lo a, the trip matters. 712 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, if Lord Jesus, if I can make these 713 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: two trips to Czech Republic and to Harare, my heart 714 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: will be settled. 715 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 3: Like my It's just yeah. 716 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's such a great combination for me 717 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: because then I can also see family. So it's worked out. 718 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like similar to Thailand. Suppose the trip 719 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: we both said we really employed where things all come together. 720 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, because obviously seeing you. 721 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: Do the traditional lobola aurora traditional wedding and then also 722 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: seeing my family would be. 723 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: So special after so long. 724 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 725 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: And then in. 726 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: September when you have your white wedding, be nice to 727 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: school to Europe, but also see. 728 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: Myself's family, so like it would just all come together. 729 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 6: Yeah. 730 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 3: So those are the two. 731 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: I'm just crossing everything I have and stay tuned. 732 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: To see if we were successful. 733 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 5: Yeah or not. 734 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: Jesus, I'm just praying, if you're listening to this, please 735 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: pray for us. 736 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 3: This needs to happen. 737 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 2: You know, what about you, it's obvious, and I think, 738 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, it's also for my sanity. I need. 739 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: Like crazy, honest to god, I need I need to 740 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: be home. 741 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: I need to be hit by the zimsun. I need 742 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: that does life. I need that just I just need 743 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: that that you know that. 744 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 3: And the thing is, I need a visit. 745 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 2: After a week you probably be like, dang son, why 746 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: is it like this? But like reality check that like 747 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 2: touchdown that you know I need it. 748 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 6: So that's it. 749 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully we succeed and tune in because. 750 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully we do, because yeah, we need and I need 751 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: to see you in person again. This has been a 752 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: long stretch for us so and I think because it 753 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: was it was not self imposed, like had I been 754 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: working or doing something. I'm doing the grind, but it's 755 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: like with the panoramic, it's like, okay, we're all forced 756 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: to do this, and like, I think it makes it 757 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: even worse. It's like taken away from you. 758 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: Yes, a lot of I think you feel very rubbed. 759 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah at the moment. 760 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: A lot of our fellow friends that we traveled to 761 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: Thailand with are based in Perth and that city they've 762 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: managed to keep COVID out of the state, the state 763 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: of Western Australia, and it's a beautiful thing, like enviable thing, 764 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,800 Speaker 1: but now it's making them not able to open to 765 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. And it's so funny that 766 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: I'll be able to go to Zim, possibly able to 767 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: go to Europe lay time the year, and I won't 768 00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: be able to go and see them. 769 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 3: And we're in the same country. 770 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: So it's wild how everyone has dealt with COVID and 771 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: for them, people with family within Australia or within Western 772 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: Australia are fine with the border being closed. They're like, ah, 773 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, let's keep safe. But the people with family 774 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: are like, can you be opening up? So it's so 775 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: funny because it's all people are looking after Number one. 776 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: COVID has made people look after themselves. 777 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. But anyway, fingers crossed. And for anyone 778 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: who's been to travel this year, we feel you, yes, 779 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 2: pay for you. We grow the feeling because because we 780 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 2: are people like to be places. 781 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 6: Okay, yes, right things. 782 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: I also it's going to say, if anyone has a 783 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: funny story or a manic story during this time of 784 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: when they travel during COVID times, please share let us 785 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: know comment if we want to. Sometimes you may justspect 786 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: you laugh about it because you're like, I can't believe 787 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: that just happened. So we really want to hear your stories, guys, 788 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 1: so definitely send them through. 789 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 6: Let us know, let us know, I know, let's see you, 790 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 6: missing baby girl. 791 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: Okay, And who is our shout out for Zim shout 792 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 2: out for this episode? 793 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 3: So the Zim shout outs are bad like that, you know. 794 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: So because there's a travel episode and obviously it was 795 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: a good time for us to reminisce, and as Remby said, 796 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: it's good to see travel bloggers, travel bloggers, travel everything travel. 797 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: There is a zimbabwe and traveler and her Instagram handle 798 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: is travels. 799 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so I've come across her. I came across 800 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 2: her page and learned that she has a YouTube channel, 801 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 2: which I actually watched a few episodes, mostly of her 802 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: Zim trip because I'm manifesting being in Zim. I'm like, Jesus, 803 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna. 804 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 1: Be back home. 805 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be back home. I'm gonna be back home. 806 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: I love that she gave us like a true reflection 807 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: of Zim. Yes bad and bougie, but also like the 808 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 2: real deal. And you know, she traveled across and she 809 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 2: made connections across the country some unique locations. She's really 810 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: cool to watch. So Tanaka Travels. I need to watch 811 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 2: more of her other travel vlogs. But it's so nice 812 00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 2: to see a black Zimbabwean girl like who loves to travel, 813 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 2: documenting and sharing her stories of her experience. So do 814 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 2: check her out. We'll link her page down here and 815 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: in the notes. Buddy, Yeah, man, it's like, I love 816 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,839 Speaker 2: to see black women traveling, yes experience in the world. 817 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: You know, it's just an anecdote when I came here 818 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 2: and people are like, oh, wait from and then my 819 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 2: students will be like, oh, where have you been? Uh? 820 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 2: And I told them They're like, whoa, You've been to 821 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,479 Speaker 2: so many places, and I was like, broh, I even 822 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 2: traveled the half like a lot of people. But there's 823 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 2: a lot of surprise too at how much we travel 824 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: as black people. You don't have that expectation, and we 825 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: probably have more of a desire to travel than a 826 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: lot of other people because when you come from a 827 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 2: country where there's a lot of discomfort, you're always looking to, 828 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: you know, explore. 829 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, and we're also like well educated, so you 830 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: want to find out about these places you learned about, like, 831 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,720 Speaker 1: what's the point. 832 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly exactly, but no, man, thanks Amanda, so good 833 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: b see them three they know? 834 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 3: Can you guys believe you? Can you believe? 835 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: Oh guys, please follow along. The season is going to 836 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: be exciting. Remember to comment, to share, to rate, anything 837 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: and everything. Contact us and we know our handles by now. 838 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 3: I'm sure no excuse us. Yeah, but yeah, definitely really 839 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 3: really excited to be back. 840 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 2: Yes, and we will see you on our next episode. 841 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 3: I don't even know what that's about. 842 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 2: Anyway, We'll see you next time. Everybody, Bye, girl, Be 843 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: careful little use your