1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. I was watching the project 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: last night and I couldn't believe my years. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: After sixteen years and what nearly four and a half 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: thousand episodes, the project will very soon be no more. 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: It's a huge It is for everybody. You know what. 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: My first appearance on this show was as a Dave 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Hughes funny. I fell over during a media scrum outside court. 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: But I am so grateful that I got to sit 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: on this desk and play. 10 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: TV with all of you. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: It's been such a fun thing to do. 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: A lot of people have been talking about the demise 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: of the project for as long as it's been on TV. 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: I always thought that it would be around. 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: Sixteen years is a long time for a program, And 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: as you said earlier, Brennan, it's never good news for 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: anyone who works in the media to see a show 18 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: go because, as they acknowledged on the show themselves, there's 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: a crew of a whole lot of people who earn 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: a living making that show. And they've got rent, they've 21 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: got kids, they've got groceries to buy. We don't jump 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: up and down when a post office closes. I mean 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: we do jump up and down when a post office closes, 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: as we should, but so it's no joy in a 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: show like this finishing. It's interesting because when it started, 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: it was a news outlet for a younger audience. News 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: done differently is what they've always said. But that audience 28 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: is getting older and people a younger audience now aren't 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: turning to TV for their news. The situation has changed. 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: Influences and TikTokers, Yeah. 31 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 3: But it's interesting in also having worked at Channel ten 32 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: for a number of years, for example, with The Living 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: Room and Dancing with the Stars, the project has never 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: rated particularly highly and Channel ten have always backed it 35 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: and I've admired them for that, but the implications of 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: that is that any show that comes after them is 37 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: struggling to meet the ratings of other networks. 38 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: I didn't help the Living Room, did it? 39 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: That's right, and so we got judged on that and 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars they're expensive shows to make. So 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Channel ten kind of needed to decide do ratings matter 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: or don't they because if that pocket doesn't matter, what 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: about the shows that come after it. It seemed that 44 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: the ratings did matter, So I don't know what they're 45 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: going to replace it with. Channel and ten usually has 46 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: shows that skew younger. It's got things like have you 47 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: been paying attention to the cheap seats? And it's got quirky, 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: younger skewing shows. So what do they replace it with. 49 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: I don't know that there's stories that there may be 50 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: an investigative journalism show, so who knows, but I wish 51 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: everyone on that show. Well it's sixteen years is a 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: really good run, but I'm sad to see it go. 53 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: I always thought that while the project existed, we're safe, 54 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: meaning what, well, you know, if you're a if you're 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 4: you know, there's other ducks on the pond that can 56 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 4: get aim taken at them. 57 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: You know, the media landscape is changing very much. 58 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 4: Stuff is changing, and it's not like the big money 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: that there used to be about Caylin Jackie. I've taken 60 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 4: all the money, but it's not like what it used 61 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: to be. And I'm always surprised about how long we've 62 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: been doing this for because like when I first started here, 63 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: I don't think it was going to last a week. 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: Well you almost didn't, but you know. 65 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: It's been good and if you like doing it. 66 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: But I always found my problem with the project was 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: I just felt that the name never made sense. I 68 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 4: think it was doomed from the beginning. 69 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: You've never liked the name. 70 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: I remember the time saying, oh, we've got the seven 71 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: pm Project, and that's a placeholder of a name. 72 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: And I went, well, the name Betty of Blacktown. She 73 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: doesn't she's not into clib she's not into quick stuff. 74 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: Just tell me what I'm getting, like, just news, that's 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: what it is. 76 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 4: You can't be the project to me, sounds like a 77 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 4: show that was never it was never fully foured. 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, they had great graphics, so to you that. 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: Interesting as you say, it started at seven o'clock. The 80 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: show didn't used to go for an hour. I'm wonder 81 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: if an hour. I mean the news services on Free 82 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: to Wear go for an hour an hour, but six 83 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: thirty to seven thirty is a big ask for a 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: show like that. So when for example, Better Homes and 85 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: Gardens on a Friday night would start at seven, Living 86 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 3: Room would start at seven thirty. So, as I said, 87 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: I wonder what happens to me? I wish everybody well quality. 88 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: You can't be too clever. That's the thing with the media, 89 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: and that's but. 90 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: This was for a younger audience. Who wanted that. They 91 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: wanted savvyuky I. 92 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: Don't want savvy. Is what media executives think. 93 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: It lasted sixteen years, and you can't tell us whether 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: it worked or not. It lasted for sixteen years. You 95 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: were never the audience. It was never for you. 96 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: No, I guess I wasn't. 97 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 4: No, But you know, I'd been on the show a 98 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: lot of times and I found it was too overly produced. 99 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 4: Just frankly, well, there's a lot of times I'd go 100 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: on there, I go, why are we talking about? 101 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 3: But you've come from radio, which is fed by the city. 102 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 4: But what I do is like when people say, come 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: up with an idea here and I say it's dreadful, Like, well, 104 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: that's dreadful, we're not doing it. 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't think those guys had that, say the host 106 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: just saying, well 107 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: I would say sixteen years is a sign of a 108 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: very successful show.