Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to today's episode, everybody, and that
Speaker 1: is because I've been on my own personal journey in
Speaker 1: this space. So what I'm talking about is time management.
Speaker 1: In my twenties, I was just a workaholic where it
Speaker 1: was more and more and more, and I thought that
Speaker 1: was the only way to achieve anything or get ahead,
Speaker 1: and no matter what I was achieving, I was never
Speaker 1: really satisfied. I was definitely burnt out. I definitely didn't
Speaker 1: have any balance whatsoever in taking care of myself or
Speaker 1: keeping in touch with my friends. It was all sort
Speaker 1: of one way traffic and definitely not a healthy space.
Speaker 1: Then I sort of shifted into this, no, I'm going
Speaker 1: to have more of a balance. But I went through
Speaker 1: this phase not that long ago where if I was
Speaker 1: with my kids and I was thinking about work or
Speaker 1: thinking I should be at work, I'd feel guilty, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really be present about being with.
Speaker 2: My kids, or if I was at work, I'd.
Speaker 1: Be thinking that, no, this is these are these really
Speaker 1: important years in my young kids' lives. So it's something
Speaker 1: I've been working on a lot, and I'm definitely not
Speaker 1: there and' a work in progress like we all are.
Speaker 1: But it's not about me. But I know this is
Speaker 1: something from hearing from all of you regularly that you
Speaker 1: really struggle with finding the time to get your work
Speaker 1: at it, and finding the time to do your shopping
Speaker 1: for a good week of eating, finding the time to
Speaker 1: have any downtime for yourself without the guilt or without
Speaker 1: the stress. Today we are lucky enough to interview an
Speaker 1: incredible lady who's an absolute expert in the time management,
Speaker 1: based so much so that she's worked with companies like
Speaker 1: Disney and Google and Apple.
Speaker 2: She really is the bee's.
Speaker 1: Knees when it comes to time management, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if it's trying to make your company more efficient
Speaker 1: or make your individual life more efficient, more enjoyable, and
Speaker 1: get the time in for your health. So I can't
Speaker 1: wait for.
Speaker 2: Us to all learn together. After that, we're going to
Speaker 2: change tactic.
Speaker 1: We're going to go with our segment that you're all loving,
Speaker 1: hate it, or rate it.
Speaker 3: I'm currently training for a marathon and someone suggested that
Speaker 3: I should get ankle weights.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're worth it?
Speaker 4: I've been using the sauna at my local pool a
Speaker 4: fair bit this winter. Am I wasting my time and money?
Speaker 4: Or is the sauna actually doing something for me.
Speaker 5: I've recently been talking to a friend about her weight loss.
Speaker 5: She's lost about twenty five kilos over the last year
Speaker 5: or so. The products that they use, which is am Way,
Speaker 5: I'm just wondering if you can rite it for me.
Speaker 1: But now it's time to learn about time management. This
Speaker 1: is a wood life.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it now.
Speaker 1: I discovered our guest today by discovering her incredible podcast actually,
Speaker 1: which is called the How I Work Podcast. We are
Speaker 1: joined in the studio today by the incredible Amantha Imba.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Woodlife.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. Sam.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a little bit of a
Speaker 1: rundown because you're the founder of behavioral science consultancy firm Inventium,
Speaker 1: and this company works with Apple, Google. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not going to work with little companies like mine. Look
Speaker 1: at all these big dogs that you're working with. You've
Speaker 1: also authored the book, which is the new book called
Speaker 1: time Wise, and you're an organizational psychologist. But what does
Speaker 1: an organizational psychologist actually do well?
Speaker 3: Ultimately, I think about how we can use our time
Speaker 3: more wisely and more deliberately and get more done and
Speaker 3: get more meaningful things done with the hours that we
Speaker 3: all have in the day, which is exactly the same.
Speaker 1: You know, this show is about how we can make
Speaker 1: people's life better in general, but I also know from
Speaker 1: being the fitness industry for twenty two years that the
Speaker 1: biggest reason people say that they cannot work out is
Speaker 1: they say they simply don't have time. So I know
Speaker 1: you're going to help people when we chat today, both
Speaker 1: in more general terms about how they can.
Speaker 2: Improve their life.
Speaker 1: But i'd love I'd love you to sort of start
Speaker 1: with what's your advice from an exercise perspective to help
Speaker 1: people make sure? In my world, it's only twenty eight
Speaker 1: minutes a day, let's call it a half an hour
Speaker 1: slot every day to move their body in some way.
Speaker 1: What advice can you give to people to help them
Speaker 1: find that time.
Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things that I do myself personally,
Speaker 3: but also I recommend to people that I speak to.
Speaker 3: So firstly, with exercise, I book a meeting with myself
Speaker 3: to exercise.
Speaker 6: So my exercise.
Speaker 3: Regime, I guess regime that makes it sound like I'm
Speaker 3: under attack or something, But anyway, so what my exercise
Speaker 3: schedule looks like is that I work out with the
Speaker 3: trainer three times a week, five minute sessions, and then
Speaker 3: I'll do one home workout forty five minutes.
Speaker 6: And I booked them as meetings with myself.
Speaker 3: And I know for me, I used to be a
Speaker 3: first thing in the morning exerciser because it's just easier
Speaker 3: to not procrastinate with yourself because you're still in a
Speaker 3: bit of a sleep paze and you just drag yourself
Speaker 3: to the gym and you do it. But I found
Speaker 3: that I like breaking my work day up because I
Speaker 3: do work from home. Now it's nice to kind of
Speaker 3: go really hard with work for a few hours and
Speaker 3: then have exercise. Is this really nice break in my day.
Speaker 3: So it's a meeting with myself. And it's like if
Speaker 3: you had a meeting in your diary with someone else,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't not turn up to it because that's just rude.
Speaker 3: And so I give myself the same respect. If I've
Speaker 3: booked a meeting with myself to do something, whether that
Speaker 3: be work on a certain project or exercise, I will
Speaker 3: do that. I will stick to that and onnto that
Speaker 3: commitment the other thing that I do.
Speaker 6: And I got this.
Speaker 3: Tip from Touria Pit when I interviewed her on how
Speaker 3: I work, and she was noticing with her young son
Speaker 3: hack of Eye, that she would be playing with him
Speaker 3: and you know, doing something that she wasn't particularly into,
Speaker 3: like playing with lego, and in her mind, you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I have to play with my son, or I have
Speaker 3: to take him to the park, or I have to
Speaker 3: you know, pat him to sleep or whatever. And when
Speaker 3: you use that self talk, I have to and many
Speaker 3: people use that about exercise. I have to exercise, I
Speaker 3: have to go to the gym. It feels like a chore.
Speaker 3: And Turia changed her self talk just by replacing one word,
Speaker 3: so instead of saying I have to, she started saying
Speaker 3: I get to, and it changes it from being a
Speaker 3: chore to being a gift. And I remember I started
Speaker 3: using that with my own exercise, because even though I
Speaker 3: stick to my exercise program pretty religiously, there are definitely
Speaker 3: days where I wake up and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I don't feel like exercising today, and it feels like
Speaker 3: a chore. But I recently had this shoulder in injury
Speaker 3: and you wasn't able to do proper upper body workouts
Speaker 3: for a little while and had to get qurtizone injections
Speaker 3: and it was all and I wasn't sure if I
Speaker 3: was going to have to need surgery. And when I
Speaker 3: found out that I didn't and the corterzone injections worked
Speaker 3: well and I got back to upper body strength training,
Speaker 3: it really hit home for me because now when I'm
Speaker 3: doing a bench press or something like that, I get
Speaker 3: to do a bench press.
Speaker 6: I'm not having shoulder surgery.
Speaker 3: My body is working perfectly well, and so I use
Speaker 3: that all the time rather than thinking I have to
Speaker 3: I get to.
Speaker 1: I often say to people that exercise should be a
Speaker 1: celebration of what your body can do, not a punishing
Speaker 1: for what it can't or thinking about what it can't.
Speaker 1: And I absolutely believe in that. And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: sometimes when we have an injury, we we really are
Speaker 1: understand and appreciate what we are capable of once we
Speaker 1: get back on our feet, that's for sure. You mentioned
Speaker 1: just then procrastination, and you said sometimes is good in
Speaker 1: the morning because we almost don't have time to realize
Speaker 1: we're procrastinating or wake up. But can you explain to
Speaker 1: me and to everybody what procrastination is and if you've
Speaker 1: got any little tips to not procrastinate, whether it's for
Speaker 1: your workout, or whether it's for any other facet of
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: That's got to be helpful for people.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I don't know anyone that would say I never procrastinate.
Speaker 1: Oh good, because I was I was thinking, I bet
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 6: That's absolutely true.
Speaker 3: But I think where people get procrastination kind of a
Speaker 3: bit mixed up is that people go, I'm such a procrastinator.
Speaker 3: They beat themselves up for it, They label themselves a procrastinator,
Speaker 3: and they think that therefore they're bad at thinking about
Speaker 3: how they use their time, or they're unproductive, and they
Speaker 3: make these assumptions. But really what procrastination is, it's not
Speaker 3: a time management problem. It's an emotion management problem because
Speaker 3: we procrastinate from something because we're experiencing negative feelings, like
Speaker 3: we might be feeling stress or resistance to do something
Speaker 3: because it's just plain hard.
Speaker 6: Work, you know, like exercise can be.
Speaker 3: And so firstly recognize it as this is about you
Speaker 3: managing your emotions. And often with procrastination, if we can
Speaker 3: just push through that hump of negative emotions that we're experiencing,
Speaker 3: we can often get through that urge to procrastinate. So
Speaker 3: one great strategy that I heard that I love. It's
Speaker 3: called the struggle timer. This comes from a guy called
Speaker 3: Scott Young who wrote this amazing book called Ultra Learning
Speaker 3: about how to learn things more quickly, and something he
Speaker 3: does when he is feeling the urge to procrastinate and
Speaker 3: is feeling that the stress or the bottom or whatever
Speaker 3: negative emotion you're feeling that is the precursor to procrastinating
Speaker 3: and not doing the thing that you should be doing,
Speaker 3: is he will set a struggle timer, so it's just
Speaker 3: a normal timer. I think he uses an egg timer
Speaker 3: for about ten minutes, and he says to himself, I'm
Speaker 3: going to push through this negative emotion just for ten
Speaker 3: minutes until that struggle timer is done. And if I'm
Speaker 3: still struggling and feeling the urge to do something else,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give myself permission to take a break.
Speaker 2: He's saying, start the task, start the time, start the.
Speaker 1: Timer, and if at the end of the time, you're
Speaker 1: still not wanting to do it, which I mean, I
Speaker 1: love that, And I tell me with exos all the time,
Speaker 1: just to five minutes, you'll never stop.
Speaker 2: In fact, you'll always do more.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and that's the theory because often if
Speaker 3: you've pushed through something for ten minutes, yeah, you've got
Speaker 3: into flow and you've pushed through that negative emotion, which
Speaker 3: generally only lasts for a few minutes. It's a great strategy,
Speaker 3: whether it's with exercise, whether it's with a hard task
Speaker 3: at work, whether it's something in your personal life like
Speaker 3: maybe getting through a whole lot of paperwork or bills
Speaker 3: or something like that. Just at the time and for
Speaker 3: ten minutes, call it your struggle timer, and then by
Speaker 3: the time the sand has reached the bottom, you'll probably
Speaker 3: be feeling all right to keep going.
Speaker 2: I'm getting a struggle time on my desk and it's
Speaker 2: going to get labeled and everything. I'm going to steal
Speaker 2: that one. I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: I've spoken on this show before, man through about people
Speaker 1: always so to me say how do you get this
Speaker 1: work I'm drowning here or I'm struggling here, and how
Speaker 1: do I get this work life balance sorted? And the
Speaker 1: first thing I say to them is, I don't like,
Speaker 1: please don't think I have work life balance sorted.
Speaker 2: But it's this vogue term.
Speaker 1: Now, what are your thoughts around work life balance and
Speaker 1: what advice do you have to people? Out there that
Speaker 1: are striving for this, you know, idealistic work life balance.
Speaker 3: I don't love the term work life balance, despite the
Speaker 3: fact that people use it yeah, because it implies that
Speaker 3: we need to balance the horribleness of work with the
Speaker 3: joy of life, and it's not necessarily like that. I
Speaker 3: much prefer the idea of work life integration, where how
Speaker 3: do you integrate your work life into your non work life,
Speaker 3: but also vice versa, And the reality is a lot
Speaker 3: of people do have a lot more flexibility now in
Speaker 3: how they work, where they work, from the hours that
Speaker 3: they work. Obviously not everyone does, but a larger proportion
Speaker 3: of people do thanks to COVID, so there is more
Speaker 3: flexibility to integrate things. I know, for me, I love
Speaker 3: my work. It doesn't feel like a chore. It doesn't
Speaker 3: feel like something I need to make sure I'm not
Speaker 3: doing too much of.
Speaker 6: But I also realize that that's quite rare.
Speaker 3: So I think one place to look can be going,
Speaker 3: do I actually like my job? I got this great
Speaker 3: piece of advice from Adam Grant, who's an organizational psychologist
Speaker 3: hots the Work Life podcast bit of a hero of mine,
Speaker 3: and something he recommends is, you know, we go to
Speaker 3: the doctor or the dentist for an annual checkup, or
Speaker 3: maybe the dentist a couple of times a year.
Speaker 6: And that's just kind of normal. We all do that.
Speaker 3: But how often do we actually stop and give ourselves
Speaker 3: a life checkup where we take a step back and go,
Speaker 3: Am I in the right career? Do I like my job?
Speaker 3: Do I like my co workers? Am I in an
Speaker 3: organization where I really love the culture? And actually proactively
Speaker 3: checking in with yourself rather than waiting for years to
Speaker 3: pass and realizing that you've sunk all these years into
Speaker 3: a career that is actually draining you of energy, and
Speaker 3: where you do strive for work life balance because work
Speaker 3: kind of sucks and life doesn't. But I think it's
Speaker 3: also really good to do with health and fitness and
Speaker 3: just with life in general. I know for me, because
Speaker 3: I do think a lot about my health and fitness.
Speaker 3: I've tried all sorts of different fitness workouts and genres
Speaker 3: of exercise if you like, And so something I find
Speaker 3: really helpful to do again with that six monthly timing
Speaker 3: is to sit down and go. Is this exercise routine
Speaker 3: still serving me? Is it still energizing me? Am I
Speaker 3: excited to get up and do this particular type of workout.
Speaker 6: I think it's really easy.
Speaker 3: To just keep doing the same thing in life, whether
Speaker 3: that be with regards to health and fitness, or with
Speaker 3: regards to your relationship or the way you're parenting or
Speaker 3: the way you're working, and.
Speaker 6: Just get on autopilot.
Speaker 3: So really that life check up is about going how
Speaker 3: can I get off autopilot and really asking yourself, is
Speaker 3: this thing still serving me?
Speaker 6: What's not working? What is working? And what could I
Speaker 6: change to make this better?
Speaker 1: First of all, I love that concept. How often do
Speaker 1: we put something off for years and then when we
Speaker 1: do it within about three days, we think to ourself,
Speaker 1: why did I do that sooner? Oh my god, why
Speaker 1: was it building up in my head with such enormity?
Speaker 2: And then when I.
Speaker 1: Did it, it's like, oh yeah, I love that once
Speaker 1: or twice a year, having a having a life check
Speaker 1: up that we that we just don't do. And I
Speaker 1: think for so many of us we're paralyzed by fear
Speaker 1: and we know and.
Speaker 2: It is scary.
Speaker 1: You know, you should be fearful because it is scary.
Speaker 1: It's you only get one life and you don't want
Speaker 1: to stuff it up. But I think it's far worse
Speaker 1: to go through life unhappy and feel like you're stuck
Speaker 1: than not trying different things and trying to change tac.
Speaker 2: That's for sure.
Speaker 3: It reminds me of this great piece of advice I
Speaker 3: heard from Phil Libbon, and he is the founder of
Speaker 3: ev note I don't know if you use evnoe note taking.
Speaker 3: When I had him on How I Work, he was
Speaker 3: talking about decision making and he said, for him, one
Speaker 3: of the game changing pieces of advice that he has
Speaker 3: taken on board around decision making is, you know, we
Speaker 3: spend so much time deliberating on these really seemingly hard
Speaker 3: decisions like should I leave a job?
Speaker 6: For example.
Speaker 3: But he said, for him, what he thinks about whenever
Speaker 3: he's faced with the hard decision is is this a
Speaker 3: complicated or complex decision that requires a lot of thought
Speaker 3: and has a lot of variables and so forth, or is.
Speaker 6: This just an unpleasant decision?
Speaker 3: And unpleasant decisions you know the answer, but you still
Speaker 3: take so much time to get there because they're all
Speaker 3: just under this hard decision umbrella, if you like, and
Speaker 3: hard decisions presumably need lots of time to figure out.
Speaker 3: But what Phil does now is he will recognize that
Speaker 3: actually the majority of decisions that he makes are just
Speaker 3: unpleasant decisions, so they don't actually warrant a lot of time.
Speaker 3: They just need you to move through that unpleasantness and
Speaker 3: make the decision. And often when we're thinking about things
Speaker 3: like leaving a job that we hate or leaving a
Speaker 3: relationship that is not serving us anymore, they're just unpleasant decisions,
Speaker 3: but we actually know the right path to take, so
Speaker 3: you don't actually need to spend as much time deliberating
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 1: That's ever though, which I have used, not with a
Speaker 1: great deal of success.
Speaker 2: I discovered it a few years ago.
Speaker 1: I thought it was going to change my life, and
Speaker 1: it didn't necessarily work for me. But I think it's
Speaker 1: because I'm a bit more old school. I'm a list maker,
Speaker 1: whiteboard guy. But what is your take on making lists?
Speaker 3: So I love a good to do list, and I
Speaker 3: mean in time wise. My new book, there are several
Speaker 3: chapters dedicated to different ways.
Speaker 6: Of doing it to do list.
Speaker 3: But I actually think one of one of the best
Speaker 3: pieces of advice I can give around it to do
Speaker 3: list is that, I mean, the thing about it to
Speaker 3: do list is that you're always adding to the list.
Speaker 3: And you're never actually getting to the bottom of the
Speaker 3: list because there's always more things to do. And I
Speaker 3: think for most people that can feel really overwhelm. And
Speaker 3: I think, you know, particularly you know myself as a parent.
Speaker 3: You know, there's not only things to do for myself,
Speaker 3: but there's things to do for my daughter as well.
Speaker 1: It's quite demoralizing because you do fifteen things and still
Speaker 1: feel like you've achieved nothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeare's still ten things left.
Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely so.
Speaker 3: A strategy that I love, which comes from Rachel Botsman,
Speaker 3: is she does something calleder to don't list. So every
Speaker 3: month she sits down and she reflects on the month
Speaker 3: that has just gone and she thinks about, what are
Speaker 3: the things that I did that really drained me of
Speaker 3: energy or that I just felt deflated from and she
Speaker 3: puts that on her to don't list.
Speaker 6: Like, for example, from.
Speaker 3: Memory on Rachel's to don't list, she's got things like
Speaker 3: I don't do meetings before eleven am, I don't check
Speaker 3: my email first thing in the morning, I don't meet
Speaker 3: with this person period, and so like from that, I
Speaker 3: started creating my own to don't list ritual, where literally
Speaker 3: every so the first Monday of every month. Between four
Speaker 3: and five o'clock, I have a meeting with myself that
Speaker 3: is my to don't list meeting where I sit down
Speaker 3: and I reflect on the.
Speaker 6: Month just gone. I'm like all of the things that
Speaker 6: the energized me.
Speaker 3: Like you know that there was a couple of months
Speaker 3: ago where I love my friends. My friends are like
Speaker 3: my family as an only child, friends of the family
Speaker 3: that I choose, and so I take.
Speaker 6: Friendships really seriously.
Speaker 3: And you know, there was one friend that I would
Speaker 3: catch up with every so often, and I just was
Speaker 3: reflecting on that because I caught up with them recently.
Speaker 3: I just thought, I'm leaving a lot of those catch
Speaker 3: ups feeling quite exhausted, and you don't really want that
Speaker 3: when you've caught up with a friend. And so that
Speaker 3: made it onto my to doun't list, don't proactively reach
Speaker 3: out to this person to catch up, which I had
Speaker 3: been doing.
Speaker 6: And you know, the.
Speaker 3: Payoff had been feeling quite exhausted and deflated after I
Speaker 3: catch up. So you know, it's not just something that's
Speaker 3: good for work, but it's just good for life. Thinking
Speaker 3: about what de energizes you in life and what do
Speaker 3: you not want to do.
Speaker 1: I call them energy vampires, and we have them in
Speaker 1: all fasts our life, but every time we catch up
Speaker 1: with them, you know you do you feel? You feel
Speaker 1: physically and mentally exhausted. I think, first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: going to read your book because there's obviously a lot
Speaker 1: more to it from a practical advice perspective, and the
Speaker 1: fact that you've got multiple chapters on writing lists intrigues.
Speaker 1: They're a really big list maker, and I bet you
Speaker 1: I'm doing it really badly. What's your take on writing
Speaker 1: lists versus technology lists. Do you think there's a difference
Speaker 1: or it's just whatever you do best.
Speaker 3: I think it's whatever you do best, and I certainly
Speaker 3: haven't come across research that says one is better than
Speaker 3: the other. Certainly, what is motivating about a list is
Speaker 3: being able to tick something off and so you get that,
Speaker 3: you get that dopamine hit, whether it's pen and paper
Speaker 3: or whether it's technology.
Speaker 6: Look, one thing I will.
Speaker 3: Give with to do lists is that where a lot
Speaker 3: of people get it wrong is that they'll just have
Speaker 3: the one to do lists. And I'm more talking in
Speaker 3: the context of work, although this can apply to life
Speaker 3: as well. You put all your tasks on the one
Speaker 3: list and our brains are naturally lazy, so they're going
Speaker 3: to go for the quicker, simplest task every time because
Speaker 3: then we get to that dope meet it more quickly.
Speaker 3: And so therefore, if you've got tasks that are kind
Speaker 3: of big, hard, complicated tasks that are going to require
Speaker 3: a lot of focus and concentration, they always get bumped down.
Speaker 3: And so one strategy to use is to go, ok,
Speaker 3: I'm going to divide my to do list into two lists.
Speaker 3: So one list is going to be the tasks that
Speaker 3: require a lot of mental energy that might require a
Speaker 3: longer amount of time sort of that require deeper thinking.
Speaker 3: And then have another task that's more your your lighter
Speaker 3: tasks that are quicker and easier to do. And when
Speaker 3: you know the rate you peak energy, and I know
Speaker 3: for you you've got your power hours in the morning,
Speaker 3: that's when you'd open up the list that is the
Speaker 3: harder things to do because your brain is going to
Speaker 3: be more able to do them well. And then in
Speaker 3: the afternoon's like for you when you know it's kind
Speaker 3: of bonus time in the afternoons in how you schedule
Speaker 3: your work life, that's when you can tackle the other
Speaker 3: things because they're the easier things to do that we
Speaker 3: can do when we've you know, our brain might be
Speaker 3: kind of not functioning as alertly.
Speaker 1: I actually love that, and I think your spot on
Speaker 1: hitting that big thing first when you've had a good
Speaker 1: breaking and you've had a workout, you've had a coffee,
Speaker 1: and you're.
Speaker 2: Ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 1: It's never They're never as big as you think either.
Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing once you start them how quickly
Speaker 1: all they.
Speaker 2: Can all open up.
Speaker 1: So, man, this is I'm trying to put myself in
Speaker 1: the shoes of our listeners because I've had conversations with
Speaker 1: a lot of them around around the time management and
Speaker 1: finding the time, particularly finding the time.
Speaker 2: To work out.
Speaker 1: And I give them advice not as good as your advice,
Speaker 1: but a lot of parallels there, and there's there's lots
Speaker 1: of nodding, and then at the end of that conversation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just I still don't have the time. What
Speaker 1: do you say to these people?
Speaker 3: I think that having a mindset shift is really helpful.
Speaker 6: Most people, to use a sporting.
Speaker 3: Analogy, play their life like they're playing defense. They're responding
Speaker 3: to things, they're playing whack a mole with all the
Speaker 3: things that are coming in at them during their day,
Speaker 3: but instead think about how could you start to play offense,
Speaker 3: you know, how could you start to be proactive with
Speaker 3: scheduling in reflections and thinking about what are the things
Speaker 3: that are just not serving you and proactively eliminating that.
Speaker 3: So I think moving from playing defense to playing offense
Speaker 3: with how you use your time is a game changer.
Speaker 1: So if you're listening out there and you do feel
Speaker 1: like you're continually reacting to things, as you said, let's
Speaker 1: get on.
Speaker 2: The front foot.
Speaker 1: So as I introduced you, ma'ither, and this wasn't me
Speaker 1: just pumping your tires up. I came across you because
Speaker 1: your podcast, which is called for all of you out
Speaker 1: there how I Work.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to read your book as well, which
Speaker 1: for those that didn't catch it, is called time Wise.
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for coming on the Woodlife.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much, Sam, It's been an absolute pleasure.
Speaker 1: Amantha is one of those guests that you know is
Speaker 1: actually going to benefit your life. I mean, as she said,
Speaker 1: we all just have the same man of ours in
Speaker 1: our day, but some of us just use a little
Speaker 1: bit better than others. Now, we're going to go to
Speaker 1: that little segment that week all hate it or Rate It.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for that segment. It's called hater or
Speaker 1: Rate It, where you get to send in your questions
Speaker 1: about the latest fitness products that have hit the market
Speaker 1: and whether I like them or I really can't stand them.
Speaker 2: Here we go, let's get into it.
Speaker 5: Hi, Sam, this is Tanya. I've recently been talking to
Speaker 5: a friend about her weight loss. She's lost about twenty
Speaker 5: five kilos over the last year or so. She put
Speaker 5: me onto her health coach, and I've got further information
Speaker 5: about the products that they use, which is Amway to
Speaker 5: help them actually lose weight. All they do is walk
Speaker 5: and they take these products and they have this health coach.
Speaker 5: I'm just wondering if you can rate it for me.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Hmmm.
Speaker 1: I'm holding my tongue a little bit because I don't
Speaker 1: want to be too harsh, but that's just red flags
Speaker 1: everywhere for me. I'm really I don't want to burst
Speaker 1: your bubble if this is something that you're excited about.
Speaker 1: But I hate this stuff. I hate Amway, I hate
Speaker 1: pyramid schemes, I hate silver bullet. Not good for you
Speaker 1: weight loss solutions, and I can only imagine, without knowing
Speaker 1: all the details, that it's that kind of thing, some
Speaker 1: kind of fat burning product or meal replacement product that
Speaker 1: has very little to no nutritional value, is highly unlucky
Speaker 1: to help you lose weight in the long term. And
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if the weight loss that has
Speaker 1: occurred for your friend is just from the walking and
Speaker 1: the fact that she's probably consuming less food.
Speaker 2: So I was going to buy my tongue.
Speaker 1: I didn't really buy it, but that's my just absolute, honest,
Speaker 1: personal opinion. Of course, everyone to their own and how
Speaker 1: they do things, but I would be steering well clear.
Speaker 3: Hey Sam, I'm currently training for a marathon and someone
Speaker 3: suggested that I should get ankle weights.
Speaker 6: They're about fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're worth it? Hmm, Alex.
Speaker 1: I don't mind ankle weights for ab training if you
Speaker 1: just want to put a bit of resistance around your
Speaker 1: lower body, if your leg raises or different sort of
Speaker 1: floor pilates based movements, But for marathon training banging around
Speaker 1: while you're running, I'm not really a fan. I think
Speaker 1: anything that's sort of shifting the weight to an area
Speaker 1: that's not going to be there when you're actually getting
Speaker 1: to your event. The best way to get in prime
Speaker 1: condition for a marathon is running and just normal, but
Speaker 1: then just mixing up your distances and your tempos and
Speaker 1: your volume and having a proper program. I'm going to
Speaker 1: say I hate it ankle weights when it comes to
Speaker 1: marathon running. I really think they're an unnecessary thing that's
Speaker 1: probably more lucky to injure than to help you.
Speaker 4: Hey, Sam, So, I've been using the sauna at my
Speaker 4: local pool a fair bit this winter, but I don't
Speaker 4: actually know what it does. It just feels nice to
Speaker 4: get warm around my swim time. I guess, am I
Speaker 4: wasting my time and money? Or is the sauna actually
Speaker 4: doing something for me? I guess I don't really even
Speaker 4: know why I'm there.
Speaker 1: So the first thing I'm going to say to that,
Speaker 1: Taylor is don't underestimate that it makes you feel nice
Speaker 1: as a waste. I think that's really important. I think
Speaker 1: anything that enhances your overall wellness or workout or exercise
Speaker 1: experience is already a good thing, So that's a tick.
Speaker 1: The other thing with saunas is, without knowing all of
Speaker 1: the details to the particular sauna that you've got there
Speaker 1: at your swimming pool. You're not going to sweat out
Speaker 1: fat or any of these crazy things that people might
Speaker 1: lead you to believe. But there are a lot of
Speaker 1: benefits to having a sauna, whether it be improved sleep,
Speaker 1: improved blood circulation. It's a really good way to relax,
Speaker 1: it's a really good thing for your mind. I'm going
Speaker 1: with rate it for sauna, whatever kind you've got in
Speaker 1: mind there, Taylor, and keep doing it if it's made
Speaker 1: me happy. If you've got any other questions, of course,
Speaker 1: please send them through.
Speaker 2: As always, there's a.
Speaker 1: Link in the show notes where you can actually send
Speaker 1: me a voice question, so i'll hear from you hopefully
Speaker 1: get you on the show.
Speaker 2: Cheers, guys, have a great week.
Speaker 1: I'll be back Monday for another motivational moment and I'll
Speaker 1: see then.