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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Kayla had seen As reveals

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Speaker 1: the moment she knew her relationship with Toby Pearce wasn't right.

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Speaker 1: Sarah's Day says she's too busy to post content and

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Speaker 1: why Steph Claire Smith and Laura Henshaw's business messaging doesn't

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Speaker 1: run skin deep. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your

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Speaker 1: dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice

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Speaker 1: a week. I'm Amy Torbert and I cannot stop scrolling

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Speaker 1: on TikTok to find out more about what has happened

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Speaker 1: to Kate Middleton. Oh, it's an addiction for me. At

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Speaker 1: this point, you don't think that the rumors can get

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Speaker 1: any more wild? And then another TikTok drops, particularly what

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Speaker 1: has dropped on Monday. Yeah, so the latest twist in

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Speaker 1: this whole saga is that their unconfirmed reports that the

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Speaker 1: BBC is on high alert for an announcement from the

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Speaker 1: royal family. And these started off as just rumors on

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Speaker 1: TikTok initially, but then when Forbes magazine started printing about

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Speaker 1: these rumors, that's when things started getting wild.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems like the Palace have never dealt with

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Speaker 1: anything like this. Before, because TikTok really is a place

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Speaker 1: for everyday people to break news, and the Palace can't

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Speaker 1: control what's coming out of TikTok. They have the Royal

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Speaker 1: from certain press, but this has gone a whole new

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Speaker 1: level and they will be forced to come out and

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Speaker 1: say something. Yeah, it's becoming even tougher for the Palace

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Speaker 1: because now they've got thousands of citizen journalists who are

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Speaker 1: able to analyze these new images that they're putting out

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Speaker 1: to an inch of their life. Particularly also because these

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Speaker 1: people have so much time on their hands, like a

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Speaker 1: lot of them are quite young people. They're not constrained

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Speaker 1: by working in a newsroom and having to compete with stories.

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Speaker 1: If they have an interest in it, they're digging deep. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But it's also because they don't have to follow the

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Speaker 1: same ethics as journalists. Because people are talking about cheating scandals,

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Speaker 1: they're talking about all this wild stuff. And the latest

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Speaker 1: theory is that the BBC are either going to announce

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Speaker 1: the death of King Charles, which is i've that's not

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Speaker 1: the case, or that he's in a hospice. That's one

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Speaker 1: to announce that Kate and will are getting divorced. I

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Speaker 1: really wouldn't be surprised if we were going to get

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Speaker 1: a separation announcement because even the way that the media

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Speaker 1: Prince William and Kate come as a pair, but now

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Speaker 1: she's been singled out. It was her fault for the

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Speaker 1: the Royal Family. And as Kate mentioned before, the Royal

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Speaker 1: Rot are always backing what the Royal Family say. They

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Speaker 1: Royal Family essentially because they want to get the first

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Speaker 1: they're now doing is they're starting to post articles. For example,

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Speaker 1: there was one on Rose Hanbury, who people are saying

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Speaker 1: confirmation about this whatsoever. It is just a rumor online,

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Speaker 1: They didn't tie Rose to Prince William, but people think

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Speaker 1: as well as the BBC rumors. The Sun interestingly printed

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Speaker 1: The amount of money that someone could make out of

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Speaker 1: a really awful feeling there's something that's not sitting right

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Speaker 1: about this story. I've never procrastinated hauling my own collection

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Speaker 1: as much as this one. Amid pregnancy speculation, Sarah's Day

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Speaker 1: seems to be that she hasn't got time to actually

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Speaker 1: Well, on this reel, which has over one million views,

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Speaker 1: I have an editor for my YouTube vlogs, but would

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Speaker 1: It's about me being spontaneous and personal. I don't work

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Speaker 1: It's been like this for over ten years, and I

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Speaker 1: I would have thought that she would want to integate

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Speaker 1: exactly right. And it was actually her son Malachi's second birthday,

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Speaker 1: Just back to influencers who hire editors, and so if

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Speaker 1: interesting discussion on Mma Mia out loud about Jennifer Aniston's

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Speaker 1: new fitness app when everyone was saying it was quite

436
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Speaker 1: confronting because the promotion was kind of what you would

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Speaker 1: expect from fifteen years ago, where it was all about

438
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Speaker 1: the before and after and flogging yourself in the gym,

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Speaker 1: and people were almost put off because the marketing wasn't

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Speaker 1: nicely packaged up to be about your mental health and

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Speaker 1: making you feel better. But to be honest, even though

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Speaker 1: that's not how it's marketed, most people do engage in

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Speaker 1: fitness programs because they want to change their esthetic. So

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it really does shine a light

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Speaker 1: on how fake that whole industry is and how in

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Speaker 1: this day and age, it seems like we need things

447
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Speaker 1: to be palatable in order for us to accept them.

448
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Speaker 1: But nothing has changed. Women are still expected to be

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Speaker 1: thin and youthful, and in reality, most people will probably

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Speaker 1: sign up to Jennifer Aniston's fitness thing because they've gone, oh,

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Speaker 1: I like that before and after. I mean, is that

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Speaker 1: more credible for her to put that out there, because

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Speaker 1: at least she's being honest and she's not pretending to

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Speaker 1: be something that she's not. I think that they think

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Speaker 1: that they're being honest by talking about the cosmetic work

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Speaker 1: that they had done, and they are in a sense,

457
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Speaker 1: but that's why it just now comes at total odds

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Speaker 1: with what their brand messaging is For Kick, I do

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Speaker 1: want to point out though we're not trying to put

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Speaker 1: the blame on Stephan Laura, because this is the whole

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Speaker 1: societal thing that needs to be unpacked. But I just

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Speaker 1: think they probably shouldn't have spoken about it because it

463
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Speaker 1: just shows how many flaws there are and how many

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Speaker 1: contradictions there are in that whole marketing space in the

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Speaker 1: fitness and wellness industry.

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Speaker 3: One day you just wake up and it.

467
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Speaker 5: Just hits you.

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Speaker 1: Kayla at Sina's didn't shy away from the tough questions.

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Speaker 1: In her recent interview on No Filter, the fitness influencer

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Speaker 1: opened up about how she knew her relationship with Toby

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Speaker 1: Pears wasn't right, to the juicy details about how she

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Speaker 1: turned friendship into a marriage. I feel like more recently

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Speaker 1: we have been getting a bit more of an insight

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Speaker 1: into Kayla at Senas and what she actually thinks, because

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Speaker 1: there was a time when she wasn't doing any interviews,

476
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Speaker 1: but more recently she has appeared on quite a few podcasts.

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Speaker 1: This time, she wasn't holding anything back, so she said

478
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Speaker 1: that she woke up one day and it hit her

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Speaker 1: that her relationship with her then fiance and baby daddy

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Speaker 1: Toby Pierce wasn't working. Let's write a more of what

481
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Speaker 1: she said, and I want.

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Speaker 5: This to come out and told me like what like

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Speaker 5: we can both agree. We are different people with different

484
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 5: morals with We're just different and it worked so well

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Speaker 5: in business. And you've got to remember, like we were

486
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Speaker 5: very young, we were very entebul agree, we're very young.

487
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Speaker 5: He was one year younger than me. When you think

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Speaker 5: something's working, it might be working in one area that

489
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Speaker 5: is business, and it was a fantastic business and it

490
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Speaker 5: was rewarding business and you've got that high and you've

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Speaker 5: got that happiness. But as humans in a relationship for

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Speaker 5: the rest of your life, if you are the polar

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Speaker 5: opposite like we're in business, you're not going to connect romantically.

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Speaker 3: It's just it is what it is. There's no hierarchy,

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Speaker 3: there's no like I'm the kind one. Do you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean?

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Speaker 1: There was, yes, Yes. She went on to refute the

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Speaker 1: claims the opposites attract, saying that she's truly best friends

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Speaker 1: with her now husband, Jay Woodroff. Let's throw to more

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Speaker 1: of what she.

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Speaker 3: Said, and people say opposites a track.

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Speaker 5: I disagree, may and I am very similar my husband

503
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Speaker 5: now We're just so similar that we are best friends.

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Speaker 5: The first thing that goes right in my life in

505
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Speaker 5: a day, I'll call him.

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Speaker 3: If I want to go on a holiday, I want

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Speaker 3: him with me. I'm gonna going with the girls. I'm

508
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Speaker 3: going with Jay like I'm going a blonde car ride.

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Speaker 3: I want my husband with me.

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Speaker 5: He's my best friend, and that was not the case,

511
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Speaker 5: and I just, really, I don't know, you just want

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Speaker 5: to be with your best friend now.

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Speaker 1: It is the first time that Kayla has addressed how

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Speaker 1: her and Jay actually got together. So back in twenty

515
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Speaker 1: twenty two, when Kayla and Jay were first spotted together,

516
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation about how their relationship started,

517
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Speaker 1: so several news publications reported that Kayla and Jay used

518
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Speaker 1: to be neighbors when he was living with his then

519
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: girlfriend Lauren Belotti in malvin Later on, photos then resurface

520
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: of a couple's holiday that Kayla and Jay went on

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00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: in May twenty twenty one with their then partners to Queensland,

522
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: and then months later the couple actually started dating. It's

523
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Speaker 1: quite funny because Kayla's Purpoo hilariously shut down cheating rumors

524
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: on his own Instagram account at the time, so he said,

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00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: So glad I can clear this mess up. Jay and

526
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: Kayla were best friends for years. It was Kayla, Jay

527
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: and Steve three idiots, both had partners, both split with

528
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Speaker 1: their partners, and later got together. Having been best friends

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Speaker 1: for years, it was easy to accept Jay into the

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Speaker 1: family because he already had been part of it as

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Speaker 1: Kayla's best friend. Any other variations to this story is

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Speaker 1: a lie slash guess Mike drop. Isn't it actually Kayla

533
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Speaker 1: and her sister Leah that run this account? Look it is,

534
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Speaker 1: but I suppose it was their way of getting that

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Speaker 1: messaging out there.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Kayla has provided further context of how her relationship started

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Speaker 1: with Jay. Let's throw to what she said.

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Speaker 3: I was actually friends with Jay's sister.

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Speaker 5: So you know when they say like they're always there,

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Speaker 5: but you never see them, like they're just there. And

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00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 5: so I was friends with Jay's sister, best friends with

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Speaker 5: Jay's sister. She was just like she's the best, her

544
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Speaker 5: kids are the best. And Jay would always just pass.

545
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Speaker 3: Hi hi whatever.

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Speaker 5: Like we became friends, and we became single at the

547
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: same time, and we were still friends and we were

548
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Speaker 5: best friends. I just remember one day like we were

549
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 5: honestly best friends. Were in the car, were driving, and

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Speaker 5: I said, what are we gonna do? Like, what are

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Speaker 5: we actually gonna do? Like should we just build like

552
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Speaker 5: a friend's house and like just all live like because

553
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Speaker 5: it was like five, we always live as friends in

554
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Speaker 5: this house.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, we could be together. I was

556
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: like what, Like what did you just say?

557
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Speaker 5: And he was like, well, like it kind of makes sense,

558
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: like we were together all the time, and if I

559
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Speaker 5: had a girlfriend, she weren't like me being so close

560
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Speaker 5: with you, and you if you had a partner, he

561
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Speaker 5: wouldn't like me being so close with you, So it.

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Speaker 3: Kind of makes sense.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, I mean, it does make sense,

564
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Speaker 5: but I've only ever hugged you three times because we're

565
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Speaker 5: so that.

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Speaker 3: Makes no sense to me. I don't actually know what happened.

567
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Speaker 3: It was just like bang bang change, like I were

568
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: married the kid.

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Speaker 1: Do we think there's a bit more to the story

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00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: than that? Look, I think everyone knows that there is

571
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: more to this story, but it's very clear that Kayla

572
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: is trying to shut down any sort of cheating allegations.

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00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: She's really trying to push there that they were just friends.

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Speaker 1: I do think It's kind of sweet though, because you

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Speaker 1: could tell how much Kayla really loves Jay in this interview,

576
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: like she is in absolute awe of him. She would

577
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Speaker 1: light up when she spoke about him. And I do

578
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: think that the best relationships come from friendships. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if Jay was there for her when Toby maybe wasn't

580
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: being too nice because Toby, as Kayla said, they have

581
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Speaker 1: very different personalities and he has said himself that he

582
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: can be quite cold and not have much empathy, so

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00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: maybe he was there for her in those times. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I think you have a point there, because reading between

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00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: the lines of this interview, it seems like Kayla and

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Speaker 1: Toby's relationship was more of a working one because she

587
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: spoke about how she felt really pressured to always be

588
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: producing social media content. So she said Toby used to

589
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: wake her up and be like, have you posted? And

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00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: she just said that now it is so different with Jay.

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00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: But to her and Jay now work together because she

592
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: said something in that interview about you know, waking up

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Speaker 1: and they hang out together and they work together. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's because he actually has his own business,

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00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: so maybe they're just working from home but on different projects.

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00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: And again that was another interesting part of the interview

597
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: because Kate Langebrook was really pushing the point about Kayla

598
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Speaker 1: having such a big fortune and whether it was hard

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00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: to actually date. And funnily enough, while Kayla and Jay

600
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: were just friends, he told her that it would be

601
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Speaker 1: really hard for her to date someone because her wealth

602
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: would be super intimidating to guys, and he said he

603
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: was going to sit back and laugh as he watched

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Speaker 1: her day other people. I mean, it sounds like he

605
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: was playing complete mind games because clearly he wanted to date. Hell,

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Speaker 1: he's quite wealthy from what I can understand as well. Well,

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00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: that's not to the level of Kayler. Well, that's what

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00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: she said. So she said to Kate that the difference

609
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: was that Jay is successful. So she said he has

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Speaker 1: his own company and his own houses. And then when

611
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Kate push and said, well what does he actually do,

612
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: she said that his company houses people with acquiet brain injuries,

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00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: and that he also works on the side doing up

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00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: luxury car He's funny. My partner came home one night

615
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: and he'd been filming for a YouTube series on luxury cars,

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00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: and he's like, this young guy came in with really

617
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: white teeth and he had this epic car. I have

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00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: no idea how he afforded it, and he'd pimped it up.

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Speaker 1: It was from America, and I was like, is his

620
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Speaker 1: name Jay? He's like, oh, I think so that's Kayla.

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Speaker 1: It'd seen as his partner. Yeah, I mean, to be fair,

622
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that he was doing that before he met Kayla.

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Speaker 1: So I do think that he does come from wealth,

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00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: which would make the whole situation easier. I did really

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00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: love the way Kayla spoke about Toby Pierce's fiance Rachel Dylan,

626
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: because I think that it would be easy for us

627
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: to assume that they wouldn't like each other because they're

628
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: both very successful fitness influencers in their own right. They

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Speaker 1: kind of look pretty similar. They're both very fit with

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00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: dark hair. But she just spoke so highly of Rachel

631
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: and put to bed in any of those sorts of

632
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: feuding rumors. Let's wrote to what she said honestly.

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00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 5: And she is beautiful, She is so kind, so beautiful,

634
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: comes from a beautiful family. She will be honest stepmom,

635
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 5: and I could not be happier to have such a

636
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: beautiful role model for my daughter. I truly, honestly believe

637
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: that I have no problems because I'm so happy in

638
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 5: my life, and I think so many women are so

639
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: bitter when they're exs Yes, and someone else like, well, that's.

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00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hurts. It hurts, yes, and that has.

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Speaker 3: Nothing like me. I'm like, okay, but you didn't like

642
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 3: them either, do you know what I mean? Like, you

643
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: guys are compatible. You need to find your person when

644
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 3: you're happy, and you found your person to care.

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00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: That's true.

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00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 3: Just so happy for everyone to be happy.

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Speaker 1: I just think that this was a really refreshing example

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00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: of co parenting. And you can tell that they must

649
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: all get along pretty civilly, especially because Kayla and Jay

650
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Speaker 1: have moved to the Gold Coast to be close to

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Speaker 1: Toby and Rachel, and also the fact that Toby and

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Speaker 1: Kayla have to work and run this empire together. Of

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Speaker 1: course you're going to have to be cordial. I did

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Speaker 1: want to finish by talking about Kayla and Jay's wedding

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Speaker 1: because we haven't heard too much about it, but she

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Speaker 1: dropped some interesting little tidbits. So it turns out that

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Speaker 1: she actually wanted to get married in a registry office,

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Speaker 1: but it was her personal assistant who put her foot down.

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Speaker 1: She's like you cannot do it, and they're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: will you organize it then, and she's like, okay, I will.

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Speaker 1: So she ended up doing everything. Kayla said that it

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Speaker 1: took her two seconds to decide on her dress and

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Speaker 1: her ring, and essentially she just rocked up to her

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Speaker 1: house and the personal assistant had done everything. Gosh, I

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Speaker 1: wish I had a personal assistant to arrange my wedding

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm quite similar to Kayla in

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Speaker 1: the sense where I didn't really care about my dress,

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Speaker 1: didn't really care about the final detail. Well, she did

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Speaker 1: still have a sponsored dress and they made the dress.

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Speaker 1: It was a custom dress for her, so it must

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Speaker 1: have taken a little bit longer than two sets. Probably

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Speaker 1: the personal assistant was there saying this is what she wants,

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Speaker 1: She's try The personal assistant tries to dress on, waning

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Speaker 1: to get you to try dresses on for me. So,

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Speaker 1: because I couldn't be bothered, offered to do it for you.

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Speaker 1: If she still didn't wait, where just your unpaid personal assistants. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that is all we have time for today.

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