WEBVTT - We're Worried For Aus Music Festivals 😬

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We recently went to Splendor about a week ago, hence

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<v Speaker 2>the voices, which again we'll keep mentioning it so we

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<v Speaker 2>don't get any unsolicited feedback. I'm very scared for Team

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<v Speaker 2>Splendor because that had to be one of the How

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<v Speaker 2>can it be worse than Splendor in the March?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're really coming out swinging like this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I need to be honest about what

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<v Speaker 2>I was experiencing there. I personally had a fine time.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a great time in Splendor in the Mud,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously I had the experience of those in the

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<v Speaker 2>Capitol and you know, not gen Pop. What I will say, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is there anyone who's been to Splendor before? All the

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<v Speaker 2>visuals you have of a really packed crowd and heaving

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<v Speaker 2>feral behavior nowhere to be seen this year. This year

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<v Speaker 2>was very, very, very sparse. It's the best way I

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<v Speaker 2>can put it. Spas at no point where you're bumping

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders with anyone. Plenty of space to walk, which sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like a good thing, but not when you've traveled ten

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<v Speaker 2>hours to be bumper a bumper with your peers.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, continue.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, this one's going to shock most of you, so

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<v Speaker 2>please please please don't shoot the messenger. The population of

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<v Speaker 2>people under the age of fourteen alarming. The primary demographic

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<v Speaker 2>this year at Splendor toddlers. I want to say, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent toddlers, twenty percent between the age of five and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty percent between the ages of eighteen and thirty, and

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<v Speaker 2>then everyone else was thirty plus. I'm confused. I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 2>The energy felt like a family, family.

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<v Speaker 1>Festival, a family fiesta.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the Easter Show esque. What was

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<v Speaker 2>with just a backdrop of miscellaneous music?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us why me? Flex and her Bessie Sullly are

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<v Speaker 1>walking around like every time, like parents had those little

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<v Speaker 1>type things like you biel barrow, the wheelbow and Sully's like, audibly,

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<v Speaker 1>she's disgusted that she's passed.

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<v Speaker 2>Off another one, another one. It was just such a

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<v Speaker 2>strange scene because obviously I'm not sure if everybody knows this,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is like children can go to Splendor, and

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<v Speaker 2>under eighteens can go to Splendor, so that's not unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>But generally they're like in a little area to the

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<v Speaker 2>back somewhere concealed away from praying eyes. The way the

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<v Speaker 2>children were integrated this year unbelievable. At any given turn,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd see a child, a real child when we walked

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<v Speaker 2>in on day two, real child when we walked in

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<v Speaker 2>on day two. The line to get your wristband checked

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<v Speaker 2>for gold was just as long as the life are

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<v Speaker 2>to eighteens. Oh number one, I personally don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>children and adult should share any common spaces, especially reck

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<v Speaker 2>creational ones. It's inappropriate, and especially what we would want

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<v Speaker 2>to go down at festival, which is feral activity. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just not a safe space for all these kidlets. It's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>and the vibe did not change backstage majority children they were.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just want to say to anyone who has

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<v Speaker 1>issue with what you've said about needing spaces to be separate,

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<v Speaker 1>I can done that as well, because tell me why

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<v Speaker 1>every time I go to my local park and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to play on swing set, a child appears out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere and I have to leave because it is

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<v Speaker 1>their safe space. And yeah, I don't see any children

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<v Speaker 1>running away from my area when I'm walking through, splending

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<v Speaker 1>in the grass trying to get a lizo.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, very strange. At one point on day two, we

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<v Speaker 2>were in the Amphitheater going to see J Balvin Babes.

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<v Speaker 2>That Amphitheater was at twenty percent capacity, maybe thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>J Balvin is one of the most streamed artists in

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<v Speaker 2>the entire world. Like we're talking billions of streams, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Amphitheater did not give Where do we think Splendor

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<v Speaker 2>went wrong this year?

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<v Speaker 1>So? I think that the lack of crowd we always

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<v Speaker 1>knew that was gonna happen after Slender in the month.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a real kick in the guard. That plus

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living true, because how much does it cost

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<v Speaker 1>to get a ticket?

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<v Speaker 2>It's expensive six hundred dollars, give or take, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you've gotta buy your camping pass parking pass, but also

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<v Speaker 2>getting to Byron. So let's say you drive, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>spend hundred dollars in petrol. If you're not driving, gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a plane hundreds of dollars. Then your drinks, your food,

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<v Speaker 2>your miscellaneous treats. I was watching this video of vox

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<v Speaker 2>Pops at Splendor asking people how much money they spent

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<v Speaker 2>in accommodation to get clothing or whatever. The medium price

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<v Speaker 2>is fifteen hundred Oh it's very boutique.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam. I will say now that I have gotten sick

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<v Speaker 1>from you, I definitely like you definitely gave me honest.

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<v Speaker 2>We definitely want to discuss later. I don't even get sick.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>So someone else gave it to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I will say, I'll give you someone.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the one doing meet and breached the whole splendor.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't jagging every second person who knows what you

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<v Speaker 2>brought back to us?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, my highlights of slender On the Friday night, you,

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<v Speaker 1>Sally and I. My plus one wasn't there yet. Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Yes left me on Red so we were all hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of plus one ning with you guys. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the three of us, okay, in the gold bar,

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<v Speaker 1>which is available to all the public. So I one

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<v Speaker 1>to explain this to everyone without feeling any kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it that I caught everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Common folk?

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<v Speaker 2>Common folk?

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<v Speaker 1>She never let me live that down, Mickey, What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about that phrase? A bit of a sore

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<v Speaker 1>spot for me. It's so brutal because it's up there

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<v Speaker 1>with muggle. You know, when you say something that's misconstruts,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep bringing it up. That's what this is. The

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<v Speaker 1>highlight for my slender was seeing j Balve not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who he was before, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>some experience with reggaeton music.

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<v Speaker 2>You liar, you don't, Okay. I live in Bondai Beach

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<v Speaker 2>like she's an indulged a Brazilian backpacker.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm hearing Brazilian drums on the grassy n every

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday from my house in South Bonday. Like, go to

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<v Speaker 1>any house party in South Bondai, You're bound to be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing Regaton on report. Okay, So you know I have

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<v Speaker 1>dabbled in the past. However, this gave me a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new lease on life of that genre of music. Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Bowen had this electric stage presence which I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>I saw with any other artist at Splendor. Mind you

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<v Speaker 1>only saw him and one other artist redacted, Lizzo.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll always be here to set.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I love Liza, It's just that we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to act together, so he missed my favorite song to

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<v Speaker 1>be Loved. Yeah, that was a bit of a sore spot.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say another one of my favorite situations

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<v Speaker 1>was when Mey, You and Sally went to the mosh pit,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just kept finding ourselves, like standing in in walkways,

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<v Speaker 1>like no matter where we walked or somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Something was I don't know. What's really frustrating about me

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<v Speaker 2>is some of the experiences I love the most are

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<v Speaker 2>experiences that pissed me off. I love being in the pit.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment someone even grazes me, it's game over, do

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<v Speaker 2>you touch me? But in particular, what I hate about

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<v Speaker 2>festivals is being or standing in a position that ends

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<v Speaker 2>up being a walkway or a thoroughfare. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what it is about me or the energy that

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<v Speaker 2>I bring into a space, but it happens consistently. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care if I'm like sandwiched in between a crowd.

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<v Speaker 2>It kept happening. So the three of us started, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the top of the bottom section, the

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<v Speaker 2>top of the amphitheater, and I'm like, okay, can we

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<v Speaker 2>move down a little bit. We're in a thoroughfare. As

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<v Speaker 2>soon as we move, give it five minutes, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just us in this deep sea of nothingness.

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<v Speaker 2>We go further in, we're surrounded by people for maybe

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<v Speaker 2>thirty seconds, a deep sea of nothing that's please everyone

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<v Speaker 2>why are you leaving her? I just want to be

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<v Speaker 2>close to someone.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say. Some chicks came up to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like going down.

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<v Speaker 2>I stepped back a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>They pointed at you.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, it was so for me. This is how

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<v Speaker 2>you know Fremy's on a ride or die she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Because okay, we're all standing there having a good time, right,

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<v Speaker 2>having a good time whatever. This group of girls in

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<v Speaker 2>front of us. One of them turns around. She sees me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's clocked me. It's like she's clocked a ghost and

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<v Speaker 2>like a megatron at the same time. She gets her

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<v Speaker 2>pointer right in between my pupils and says podcasta podcaster?

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<v Speaker 2>Who are you?

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<v Speaker 1>When she said who are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Th me literally, she's like that the one Simpsons me

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<v Speaker 2>might know of Homer still come backward into the hedge

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly what food? She laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I can't say this girl down. How to

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<v Speaker 1>give you privacy for that? That was like, what's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>Not like a mercy kill.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never put more abandoned in my life. I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I do worry for Splendor. I feel like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>coming back next year. They would have lost so much money,

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<v Speaker 2>not selling those tickets. And I think what a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of like legacy or heritage brands get wrong is that

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<v Speaker 2>they assume that gen Z has any type of loyalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Brand loyalty is a very millennial thing, a very boomoth thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Gen zs don't do loyalty in the same way. And

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<v Speaker 2>also I think that very millennial, boomoth thing to do

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<v Speaker 2>is to assume the higher the price point, the more

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<v Speaker 2>worth it it's going to be. So we see that like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a premium festival, We've got to go. We

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<v Speaker 2>dont want to miss out. And I think everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second. If I can see this same thing

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok, or I can see this same act in

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<v Speaker 2>my city for a fraction of the price, why would I?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the question that a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>festivals can't answer is why would I? Because going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a performer you really like is not the incentive

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<v Speaker 2>you're paying to do that. And so it's okay, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>when paying five hundred bucks, I'm going to see someone

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<v Speaker 2>I like, what else are you offering? They're not offering

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<v Speaker 2>anything else, or if they are, it's a watered down

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<v Speaker 2>version of what they did last year. Or the year

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<v Speaker 2>before we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's fine, Well, if I get invited, backup considered Naturally.

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