Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: We recently went to Splendor about a week ago, hence
Speaker 2: the voices, which again we'll keep mentioning it so we
Speaker 2: don't get any unsolicited feedback. I'm very scared for Team
Speaker 2: Splendor because that had to be one of the How
Speaker 2: can it be worse than Splendor in the March?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're really coming out swinging like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I need to be honest about what
Speaker 2: I was experiencing there. I personally had a fine time.
Speaker 2: I had a great time in Splendor in the Mud,
Speaker 2: but obviously I had the experience of those in the
Speaker 2: Capitol and you know, not gen Pop. What I will say, though,
Speaker 2: is there anyone who's been to Splendor before? All the
Speaker 2: visuals you have of a really packed crowd and heaving
Speaker 2: feral behavior nowhere to be seen this year. This year
Speaker 2: was very, very, very sparse. It's the best way I
Speaker 2: can put it. Spas at no point where you're bumping
Speaker 2: shoulders with anyone. Plenty of space to walk, which sounds
Speaker 2: like a good thing, but not when you've traveled ten
Speaker 2: hours to be bumper a bumper with your peers.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, continue.
Speaker 2: Also, this one's going to shock most of you, so
Speaker 2: please please please don't shoot the messenger. The population of
Speaker 2: people under the age of fourteen alarming. The primary demographic
Speaker 2: this year at Splendor toddlers. I want to say, thirty
Speaker 2: percent toddlers, twenty percent between the age of five and fourteen,
Speaker 2: twenty percent between the ages of eighteen and thirty, and
Speaker 2: then everyone else was thirty plus. I'm confused. I'm so confused.
Speaker 2: The energy felt like a family, family.
Speaker 1: Festival, a family fiesta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the Easter Show esque. What was
Speaker 2: with just a backdrop of miscellaneous music?
Speaker 1: Tell us why me? Flex and her Bessie Sullly are
Speaker 1: walking around like every time, like parents had those little
Speaker 1: type things like you biel barrow, the wheelbow and Sully's like, audibly,
Speaker 1: she's disgusted that she's passed.
Speaker 2: Off another one, another one. It was just such a
Speaker 2: strange scene because obviously I'm not sure if everybody knows this,
Speaker 2: but there is like children can go to Splendor, and
Speaker 2: under eighteens can go to Splendor, so that's not unusual.
Speaker 2: But generally they're like in a little area to the
Speaker 2: back somewhere concealed away from praying eyes. The way the
Speaker 2: children were integrated this year unbelievable. At any given turn,
Speaker 2: you'd see a child, a real child when we walked
Speaker 2: in on day two, real child when we walked in
Speaker 2: on day two. The line to get your wristband checked
Speaker 2: for gold was just as long as the life are
Speaker 2: to eighteens. Oh number one, I personally don't think that
Speaker 2: children and adult should share any common spaces, especially reck
Speaker 2: creational ones. It's inappropriate, and especially what we would want
Speaker 2: to go down at festival, which is feral activity. It's
Speaker 2: just not a safe space for all these kidlets. It's weird,
Speaker 2: and the vibe did not change backstage majority children they were.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say to anyone who has
Speaker 1: issue with what you've said about needing spaces to be separate,
Speaker 1: I can done that as well, because tell me why
Speaker 1: every time I go to my local park and I
Speaker 1: want to play on swing set, a child appears out
Speaker 1: of nowhere and I have to leave because it is
Speaker 1: their safe space. And yeah, I don't see any children
Speaker 1: running away from my area when I'm walking through, splending
Speaker 1: in the grass trying to get a lizo.
Speaker 2: Okay, very strange. At one point on day two, we
Speaker 2: were in the Amphitheater going to see J Balvin Babes.
Speaker 2: That Amphitheater was at twenty percent capacity, maybe thirty percent.
Speaker 2: J Balvin is one of the most streamed artists in
Speaker 2: the entire world. Like we're talking billions of streams, and
Speaker 2: the Amphitheater did not give Where do we think Splendor
Speaker 2: went wrong this year?
Speaker 1: So? I think that the lack of crowd we always
Speaker 1: knew that was gonna happen after Slender in the month.
Speaker 1: That was a real kick in the guard. That plus
Speaker 1: cost of living true, because how much does it cost
Speaker 1: to get a ticket?
Speaker 2: It's expensive six hundred dollars, give or take, and then
Speaker 2: you've gotta buy your camping pass parking pass, but also
Speaker 2: getting to Byron. So let's say you drive, You're gonna
Speaker 2: spend hundred dollars in petrol. If you're not driving, gonna
Speaker 2: get a plane hundreds of dollars. Then your drinks, your food,
Speaker 2: your miscellaneous treats. I was watching this video of vox
Speaker 2: Pops at Splendor asking people how much money they spent
Speaker 2: in accommodation to get clothing or whatever. The medium price
Speaker 2: is fifteen hundred Oh it's very boutique.
Speaker 1: Sam. I will say now that I have gotten sick
Speaker 1: from you, I definitely like you definitely gave me honest.
Speaker 2: We definitely want to discuss later. I don't even get sick.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: So someone else gave it to us.
Speaker 1: Well, I will say, I'll give you someone.
Speaker 2: You're the one doing meet and breached the whole splendor.
Speaker 2: I wasn't jagging every second person who knows what you
Speaker 2: brought back to us?
Speaker 1: Okay, my highlights of slender On the Friday night, you,
Speaker 1: Sally and I. My plus one wasn't there yet. Jordan
Speaker 1: Yes left me on Red so we were all hanging out.
Speaker 1: I was kind of plus one ning with you guys. No,
Speaker 1: it's the three of us, okay, in the gold bar,
Speaker 1: which is available to all the public. So I one
Speaker 1: to explain this to everyone without feeling any kind of fun.
Speaker 1: What was it that I caught everyone?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Common folk?
Speaker 2: Common folk?
Speaker 1: She never let me live that down, Mickey, What do
Speaker 1: you think about that phrase? A bit of a sore
Speaker 1: spot for me. It's so brutal because it's up there
Speaker 1: with muggle. You know, when you say something that's misconstruts,
Speaker 1: you keep bringing it up. That's what this is. The
Speaker 1: highlight for my slender was seeing j Balve not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was before, and I have
Speaker 1: some experience with reggaeton music.
Speaker 2: You liar, you don't, Okay. I live in Bondai Beach
Speaker 2: like she's an indulged a Brazilian backpacker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hearing Brazilian drums on the grassy n every
Speaker 1: Sunday from my house in South Bonday. Like, go to
Speaker 1: any house party in South Bondai, You're bound to be
Speaker 1: hearing Regaton on report. Okay, So you know I have
Speaker 1: dabbled in the past. However, this gave me a whole
Speaker 1: new lease on life of that genre of music. Jay
Speaker 1: Bowen had this electric stage presence which I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I saw with any other artist at Splendor. Mind you
Speaker 1: only saw him and one other artist redacted, Lizzo.
Speaker 2: I'll always be here to set.
Speaker 1: No. I love Liza, It's just that we didn't get
Speaker 1: to act together, so he missed my favorite song to
Speaker 1: be Loved. Yeah, that was a bit of a sore spot.
Speaker 1: But I will say another one of my favorite situations
Speaker 1: was when Mey, You and Sally went to the mosh pit,
Speaker 1: and we just kept finding ourselves, like standing in in walkways,
Speaker 1: like no matter where we walked or somehow.
Speaker 2: Something was I don't know. What's really frustrating about me
Speaker 2: is some of the experiences I love the most are
Speaker 2: experiences that pissed me off. I love being in the pit.
Speaker 2: The moment someone even grazes me, it's game over, do
Speaker 2: you touch me? But in particular, what I hate about
Speaker 2: festivals is being or standing in a position that ends
Speaker 2: up being a walkway or a thoroughfare. And I don't
Speaker 2: know what it is about me or the energy that
Speaker 2: I bring into a space, but it happens consistently. I
Speaker 2: don't care if I'm like sandwiched in between a crowd.
Speaker 2: It kept happening. So the three of us started, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of like the top of the bottom section, the
Speaker 2: top of the amphitheater, and I'm like, okay, can we
Speaker 2: move down a little bit. We're in a thoroughfare. As
Speaker 2: soon as we move, give it five minutes, and we're
Speaker 2: just it's just us in this deep sea of nothingness.
Speaker 2: We go further in, we're surrounded by people for maybe
Speaker 2: thirty seconds, a deep sea of nothing that's please everyone
Speaker 2: why are you leaving her? I just want to be
Speaker 2: close to someone.
Speaker 1: I will say. Some chicks came up to you. I
Speaker 1: don't like going down.
Speaker 2: I stepped back a bit.
Speaker 1: They pointed at you.
Speaker 2: They're like, it was so for me. This is how
Speaker 2: you know Fremy's on a ride or die she's not.
Speaker 2: Because okay, we're all standing there having a good time, right,
Speaker 2: having a good time whatever. This group of girls in
Speaker 2: front of us. One of them turns around. She sees me.
Speaker 2: She's clocked me. It's like she's clocked a ghost and
Speaker 2: like a megatron at the same time. She gets her
Speaker 2: pointer right in between my pupils and says podcasta podcaster?
Speaker 2: Who are you?
Speaker 1: When she said who are you?
Speaker 2: Th me literally, she's like that the one Simpsons me
Speaker 2: might know of Homer still come backward into the hedge
Speaker 2: is exactly what food? She laugh.
Speaker 1: I said, I can't say this girl down. How to
Speaker 1: give you privacy for that? That was like, what's it called?
Speaker 1: Not like a mercy kill.
Speaker 2: I'd never put more abandoned in my life. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I do worry for Splendor. I feel like it's not
Speaker 2: coming back next year. They would have lost so much money,
Speaker 2: not selling those tickets. And I think what a lot
Speaker 2: of like legacy or heritage brands get wrong is that
Speaker 2: they assume that gen Z has any type of loyalty.
Speaker 2: Brand loyalty is a very millennial thing, a very boomoth thing.
Speaker 2: Gen zs don't do loyalty in the same way. And
Speaker 2: also I think that very millennial, boomoth thing to do
Speaker 2: is to assume the higher the price point, the more
Speaker 2: worth it it's going to be. So we see that like,
Speaker 2: this is a premium festival, We've got to go. We
Speaker 2: dont want to miss out. And I think everyone's like,
Speaker 2: wait a second. If I can see this same thing
Speaker 2: on TikTok, or I can see this same act in
Speaker 2: my city for a fraction of the price, why would I?
Speaker 2: And I think the question that a lot of these
Speaker 2: festivals can't answer is why would I? Because going to
Speaker 2: see a performer you really like is not the incentive
Speaker 2: you're paying to do that. And so it's okay, of course,
Speaker 2: when paying five hundred bucks, I'm going to see someone
Speaker 2: I like, what else are you offering? They're not offering
Speaker 2: anything else, or if they are, it's a watered down
Speaker 2: version of what they did last year. Or the year
Speaker 2: before we've seen it.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's fine, Well, if I get invited, backup considered Naturally.
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