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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, The Parasite Cleanse, It's infiltrating TikTok,

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Speaker 1: Martha Califatitas's second baby shower in a week, and Sophie

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Speaker 1: Cation marks a year since her proposal to former fiance

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Speaker 1: Maddie Garrick. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose

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Speaker 1: of the hottest influenza and pop culture news twice a

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Speaker 1: week now. I'm Amy Taller and Kate. We've missed you

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Speaker 1: a little bit this weekend. You've been away. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: had a lovely weekend away at Port Wallunga. It was

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Speaker 1: my soon to be sister in law's hen's party and

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Speaker 1: we had such a good time. Everyone underrates Adelaide, but

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Speaker 1: Port La Lounga. I've actually never been to that beach.

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Speaker 1: People will notice it that Olivia Rodgers is always there

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Speaker 1: and I was influenced.

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Speaker 2: It's bloody beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they always do photo shoots at Port Wa Lunga.

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Speaker 1: We've been on a photo shoot there before. It's so pretty.

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Speaker 1: And I finally went to Star of Greece. I've heard

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Speaker 1: everyone talking about it and it did live up to expectations.

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Speaker 1: Pip was the most beautiful hen as well. People will

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Speaker 1: probably see on my Instagram. She just looked amazing. She

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Speaker 1: was like a little ballerina. Well it's quite fitting because

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Speaker 1: growing up she was a very talented ballet dancer. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she definitely was. Now you guys are about to leave

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Speaker 1: me now for a couple of days. Yeah, so Sofa

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Speaker 1: and I heading off for work for Hula Media, our

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Speaker 1: pr business. And it's exciting for Sofa because she hasn't

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Speaker 1: traveled I think since twenty nineteen, is it. Yeah, since

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Speaker 1: we went to Bali for our thirtieth and we're turning

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Speaker 1: thirty four in March, which is scary. I'm more nervous

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Speaker 1: because I think when you get so used to just

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Speaker 1: being an adelaide and in your own surroundings, the thought

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Speaker 1: of flying somewhere really freaks me out.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a good flyer at all. Yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 2: bit worried. How scared.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be but it'll be fine. It'll

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Speaker 1: be lots of fun. I love Sydney. I'm jealous because

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Speaker 1: you guys said you're going to be checking out some

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Speaker 1: of the top restaurants like Toddy, so you're going.

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Speaker 2: To run into some influences there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can get a seat at Toddy's.

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Speaker 2: Well, you haven't booked.

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Speaker 1: Well, so basically the night we go over, it's the

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Speaker 1: Mardy Gras that night. Well, you're not getting a safe

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Speaker 1: table at Toddy. I don't think we're going to go

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Speaker 1: to Totty's. I think we'll probably be going somewhere where

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Speaker 2: I think McDonald's will be more like it.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll be so exhausted that we just want

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Speaker 1: to get takeaway or room service or something in kickback.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe that I got forty thousand followers overnight

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Speaker 1: from my parasite cleans video. The latest trend infiltrating our

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Speaker 1: social media feeds is the parasite cleanse. Unqualified TikTok users

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Speaker 1: and influencers are promoting parasite cleansing kits or at home

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Speaker 1: remedies that promise to fix all of your stomach issues.

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Speaker 1: So just how prevalent is this trend? Well, this trend

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Speaker 1: has been taking over social media. It is currently trending

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Speaker 1: with thousands of parasite cleans videos available on the platform.

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Speaker 1: And in these videos, the creator hypes up the supposed

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Speaker 1: prevalence of parasites and explains how to get rid of

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Speaker 1: them by following a particular parasite cleanse. Now influencers are

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Speaker 1: taking it to the next level by promoting parasite cleansing

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Speaker 1: kits or at home remedies, and in turn they're making

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Speaker 1: money from promoting the kits and also raking in the views.

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Speaker 1: Because for some reason, this content really seems to be

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Speaker 1: striking a chord with users. I think people are so

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Speaker 1: interested because all of us suffer from gut issues, and

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Speaker 1: I feel like social media, you kind of feel like

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Speaker 1: there must be an issue if your stomach ever feels upset,

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Speaker 1: like you always go to the worst.

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Speaker 2: Case scenario, Oh, I must have.

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Speaker 1: A parasite if I have a bit of a grumbly stomach,

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Speaker 1: or maybe they see a parasite as something you can

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Speaker 1: get rid of quicker rather than a chronic issue like IBS.

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Speaker 1: This whole parasite cleanse makes me feel really uncomfortable because

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Speaker 1: I've seen some of these videos popping up, and these

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Speaker 1: TikTokers are giving step by step advice on how to

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Speaker 1: actually do the parasite cleanse, and some of the ingredients

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Speaker 1: I've never heard of them before. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: a bit concerning that people are taking this advice from TikTok. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: particularly when there's absolutely no scientific or medical evidence to

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Speaker 1: suggest that these sort of cleanses work, and there's so

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Speaker 1: many different cleanses it's hard to keep up with them,

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Speaker 1: or that the.

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Speaker 2: Person even has a parasite.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and last year Shane Grimman revealed on TikTok

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Speaker 1: to her followers that she believed she had a parasite.

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Speaker 1: Here's what she said, do.

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Speaker 2: You know what time it is?

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Speaker 1: It is time to have another table scoon and a

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Speaker 1: half the pioses to try and get rid of my

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Speaker 1: parasites that they got in Bali I think four.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, because they got bylabily to Tice.

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Speaker 1: Very common to have parasites, and I'm traumatized that this

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Speaker 2: But there's many ways to get rid of them.

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Speaker 1: I just decided that this is the route that I

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Speaker 2: I've seen people do this all over TikTok. I'm not

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Speaker 1: I always think it's rather interesting when influencers preface that

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Speaker 1: they're not recommending others trying something and that they're not

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Speaker 1: health professionals. But then they proceed to give their followers

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Speaker 1: Shanni explained that the cleanse is a natural remedy which

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Speaker 1: involves ingesting the seeds of an organic papaya. She then

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Speaker 1: showed herself blending up the seeds and adding honey and water.

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Speaker 1: Shanni then said that the concoction smelt as though something

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Speaker 1: had died and that her friend Michael Finch had recommended

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Speaker 1: it to her. Now the concoction looked vile. She had

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Speaker 1: because the taste was apparently that vile. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: how the brain waves would help with the parasite or

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Speaker 1: the dietary issues. Well. She then proceeded to instruct her

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Speaker 1: followers that it's best to eat the papya seeds on

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Speaker 1: an empty stomach. And she's also dedicated because she didn't

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Speaker 1: Sharani seems to have a long standing issue with her gut.

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Speaker 1: She's done a few colonics in the past and promoted

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Speaker 1: them on her social channels, and it's obvious she's trying

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Speaker 1: But it's frustrating because she should just go see her doctor,

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Speaker 1: who may be out of help in this instance. Though,

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Speaker 1: if she's just recommending papya seeds, I don't see that

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Speaker 1: It's very rare to actually have this issue, So Shani

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Speaker 1: actually have. Yeah. Well, this video did attract over one

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Speaker 1: to share more about her parasite cleansing experience, so she

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Speaker 1: did a total of five videos on it, and in

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Speaker 1: a following video, Shanni said that she was inundated with

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Speaker 1: messages asking her why she thinks she has a parasite.

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Speaker 2: This is what she said. I've seen mucas in my

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Speaker 2: stool a couple of times, maybe more than a couple.

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Speaker 1: I think that this is too much information, even for

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Speaker 1: the video by saying that she dated someone who was

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Speaker 1: triggered by the word pooh, so she felt very triggered

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Speaker 2: Do we think it's Jonathan?

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Speaker 1: What was her other partner called, I can't even remember

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Speaker 1: TikTok has become the new Google.

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Speaker 2: So people are.

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Speaker 1: Probably typing in, oh, what symptoms do you have if

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Speaker 1: you have a parasite? And these are the videos that

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Speaker 1: are popping up. Oh, it definitely is the new Google

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Speaker 1: doctor TikTok. Now, I suppose the thing is Sophie. I

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Speaker 1: that Shanny was talking about mukis in her pooh and

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Speaker 1: and it's obviously an issue a lot of people face.

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Speaker 1: I disagree because I don't think she should be putting

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Speaker 1: most recent parasite update, she revealed that, surprise, surprise, nothing

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Speaker 1: had happened, and that she was now going to try

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Speaker 1: supplements designed to kill the parasites now. There was a

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Speaker 1: strong reaction under a number of these videos. One user wrote,

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Speaker 1: I'm so invested in this, but now I'm paranoid. I

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Speaker 1: have a parasite with absolutely no symptoms, babe, and this

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Speaker 1: comment received eight hundred and thirty eight likes, whilst another

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Speaker 1: user wrote, please go get tested, to which Shanni replied,

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Speaker 1: Another user raised a really good point.

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Speaker 2: They said, do you actually have a parasite?

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Speaker 1: Did your doctor you know, through some test, to which

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Speaker 1: It's actually a pooh test as well. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: she seems to be talking about poo a lot on

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Speaker 1: her TikTok, but just go and take your pooh down

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Speaker 1: to the clinic to get it tested. Well, a doctor

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Speaker 1: who goes by the handle Doctor Michael says has actually

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Speaker 1: called Shanny out. So Doctor Michael has three hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: medical misinformation. So he firstly took aim at Shanny for

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Speaker 1: claiming that most of us have a parasite that we

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Speaker 1: just don't know about.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen to what he said.

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Speaker 3: The chances of you actually have in a parasite are

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Speaker 3: so minuscule. And yeah, if you've visited a high risk

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Speaker 3: doesn't cook properly, or or there's a chance of contamination,

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Speaker 3: then absolutely should get checked out. But you should not

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Speaker 3: be rushing to say I've got a parasite without getting

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Speaker 3: a work up.

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Speaker 1: Michael went on to say that there is zero medical

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Speaker 1: evidence to suggest that the cleansing kits will do anything,

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Speaker 1: and the influences of pushing the health ideas on followers.

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Speaker 1: Let's throw out more of what he said.

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Speaker 3: So this is absolutely the flavor of the month, and

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Speaker 3: influencers are loving it. They're telling you that you've got

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Speaker 3: a parasite and that you have to take these parasite

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Speaker 3: cleansing kits to get rid of it, and then making

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Speaker 3: a fortune from it. By the way, and there is zero, zero,

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Speaker 3: medical evidence that these kits do anything. Even if you

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Speaker 3: did have a parasite infection, there's zero evidence that these

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Speaker 3: kits would actually get rid of it. And it's a

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Speaker 3: shame because they're duping into thinking that your stomach issues,

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Speaker 1: I was surprised to see that she did outline the

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Speaker 1: I think the funniest bit of this furniture sale was

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur Sophie Kaisher proposed to her now ex fiance basketball

438
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Speaker 1: at Mattie Garrick. Sophie acknowledged the milestone by thanking people

439
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: who reached out and checked in on her now so

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00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,720
Speaker 1: this would have been a tough one. I feel like

441
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,879
Speaker 1: things are still very raw. Yeah, I did really feel

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00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 1: for Sophie with this one. She shared on Instagram that

443
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Speaker 1: she was surprised by the number of people that reached

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00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 1: out to her and were thinking of her. So she wrote,

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Speaker 1: I tried to distract myself with kids and loved ones,

446
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: but have still felt breathless at times. I recently got

447
00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 1: told a metaphor, it's like a paper cut. It always stings,

448
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,360
Speaker 1: and today is like pouring acetone on it. Though acetone

449
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 1: I didn't pour. The sun will rise tomorrow. She then continued, writing,

450
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,800
Speaker 1: also a reminder that you don't need to be in

451
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: love to still feel pain. Life experience has taught me

452
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 1: to feel feelings when they are there, not to hide

453
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Speaker 1: from them. She then added a series of quotes saying

454
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Speaker 1: you are still worthy of love even after some peace

455
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 1: people have made you feel like you are not, and

456
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Speaker 1: she also added it's time for you to be happy again.

457
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Speaker 2: Love now.

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Speaker 1: For some context, Sophie called off her engagement to Mattie

459
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Speaker 1: only days after visiting her in Italy. So Mattie, as

460
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Speaker 1: you mentioned, is a pro basketballer and she accepted a

461
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 1: contract to play in Italy. In the announcement post, Sophie said,

462
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Speaker 1: it is with sadness and a great deal of pain

463
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,760
Speaker 1: that I have unfortunately made the decision to end my relationship.

464
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 1: When I proposed, I did so with the guarantee of loyalty, trust,

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Speaker 1: honesty and respect from my end Now. In Sophie's breakup

466
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Speaker 1: announcement post, she alluded to a break of trust in

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Speaker 1: their relationship, and her friends suggested to the paper that

468
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Speaker 1: a third party may have been involved following the split.

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Speaker 1: Sophie's close friends Will references as a source to The

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Speaker 1: Herald's son Now in the article. They pointed the finger

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Speaker 1: at Maddie for the split and said Sophie provided everything

472
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: for her in life so she could chase her sporting

473
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 1: dreams water burn Do we really feel like people were

474
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Speaker 1: reaching out to Sophie one year on from this engagement though,

475
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Speaker 1: like who remembers?

476
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Speaker 2: Who the fuck remember?

477
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Speaker 1: It was probably her close friends to be fair, I

478
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Speaker 1: don't think it was the general follower. That being said,

479
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: Sophie did show on Instagram that a random follower dropped

480
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Speaker 1: off a bunch of flowers, and they wrote a comment

481
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 1: saying they were so thankful for her and thank you

482
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Speaker 1: for being so honest to raw online.

483
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Speaker 2: So who knows?

484
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 1: And I stay in hotels all over the world.

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Speaker 3: It's the first time I've had to bribe a chef

486
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Speaker 3: to cook me a meal and then find out he

487
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Speaker 3: doesn't even have the basic goddamn ingredients. Holy Cayle, can't

488
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: you see why that rummy dump?

489
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Speaker 1: This is a former staffer at a famous hotel has

490
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: spilt the tea on the celebrities who stayed there. Almost

491
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Speaker 1: sixty celebrities have been reviewed with the detail shared on

492
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Speaker 1: blind gossip account des Noir. So, for those who aren't

493
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: familiar with doumois, it is an American Instagram account that

494
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: publishes celebrity gossip and the gossip is sent to the

495
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: Instagram page and then shared anonymously. So, as mentioned in

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Speaker 1: this instance, an unknown ex hotel worker dish the dirt

497
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: on the famous guests that they served. And it's important

498
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: to note that as the gossip is posted anonymously, he

499
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: is just hearsay, so it's important to take it with

500
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. But it is fun to ponder

501
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: if it is true. So let's start with who was

502
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: on the bad list, because I think that's what everyone

503
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: wants to know. So Jamie Oliver was described as a douchebag.

504
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I know it was very upsetting.

505
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez was apparently not the easiest guest, while Ellen

506
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: DeGeneres and Miley Cyrus were labeled difficult. Did you guys

507
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Speaker 1: see that ad at the super Bowl with Jennifer Lopez

508
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: and Ben Affleck the ad or the Yeah, there was

509
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ad and he was working at a

510
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: donut shop and then she I think it was Dunkin

511
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Speaker 1: Donuts and then she drives up and she's like, what

512
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Speaker 1: are you doing here?

513
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Speaker 2: It was actually hilarious.

514
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Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that. I thought you were going

515
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: to say. When they were fighting at the Grammys, they

516
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: were popping up on my tiktop. So Amber heard was

517
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: said to be one of the worst guests ever with

518
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: one of the worst lists of demands. The hotel worker

519
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: through shade at Beyonce, saying that she was interesting and

520
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: not necessarily in a good way, and unsurprisingly, the hotel

521
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: staffer was relieved when Kanye West's stay was over. It's

522
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: weird to hear someone and say something slightly negative about

523
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Speaker 1: Beyonce because she's said to have one of the strictest

524
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: confidentiality contracts going around, so anyone who comes into contact

525
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: with her, they've got to sign one of these forms.

526
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Speaker 1: I suppose they were kind of tactful and saying interesting

527
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: but not in a good way. Well it's anonymous as well. Yeah.

528
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: When it comes to the nice list, Selena Gomez was

529
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: labeled as lovely, lovely, lovely, which doesn't surprise me. Gordon

530
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: Ramsay was apparently very nice, and celebrities labeled as incredibly

531
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: nice included Jennifer Aniston, Thank goodness, Gigi had did, Emma Thompson,

532
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: Julie Andrews, Meryl Streep, Tom Hanks, Jimmy Fallon, and interestingly,

533
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: Hailey Bieber, but not Justin Bieber. I keep getting those

534
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: viral tiktoks of Justin Bieber walking into his house and

535
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Speaker 1: just giving it to the fans who are standing there.

536
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Speaker 2: What do you mean giving it?

537
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: Well, he'll be like not today, and what are you

538
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: doing here? And like fair enough if these people are

539
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: camped outside your house, Oh definitely. But their video is

540
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: taking aim at him, saying he's rude. But some of

541
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Speaker 1: his fans are so awful to his wife, Hailey Bieber,

542
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised that he would greet them in

543
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: that way. So it's nice to know that Selena and

544
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: Hailey are both nice at hotels. Now, there were some

545
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: A listers who received mixed reviews. Harry Styles was on

546
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: the Okay list, so apparently he's polite, but he wanted

547
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: peace and no one to bother him, which sounds fair enough.

548
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: I can understand that, particularly when he has traveled so

549
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: much as a teenager with one direction. They would have

550
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: stayed at so many hotels and just probably cop shit

551
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: from so many young girls who are trying to sneak

552
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: in or wanting an autograph or a photo. Yeah. Well,

553
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Kardashians, Kim Kardashian has a

554
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: big list of things that she needs, but is nice

555
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: and wants to also be left alone. As for her

556
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: half sister Kendall Jennet, she is nice but expects things

557
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: as well, which again I'm not really surprised about. Rihanna

558
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: was described as being a twenty out of ten as

559
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Speaker 1: a person, but she did have one of the craziest

560
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: lists of demands. Ever, I think that's quite good. Like

561
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Speaker 1: I'd like to be known as a twenty out of ten,

562
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: like you expect Rianna to have some demands. Well, I've

563
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: watched some recent youtubes where Saffron Baker, the UK influencer

564
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: who's my favorite. She was sent to the super Bowl

565
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,719
Speaker 1: to watch Rihanna perform, and she was sent by fenty Beauty,

566
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: and fenty Beauty absolutely decked out this hotel room. They

567
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: even had Fenty Beauty towels, Fenty Beauty bath mats, like

568
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: they literally thought of everything. So when she has such

569
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: an attention to detail like that, yes, I understand that

570
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: marketing people would be involved, but I feel like Rihanna

571
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: really has a big hold over her.

572
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: Business and wants to make sure everything is perfect. I

573
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Speaker 2: saw that.

574
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: Video too, and they were like, Rihanna has personally picked

575
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: all the people to attend. I was thinking, I don't

576
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: know if she who Safron Barker is, but we'll just

577
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: Lastly on the mixed response list was Leonardo DiCaprio. So

578
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: apparently at some points he was very nice, but other

579
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: times he came across as a bit rude and an idiot. Oh,

580
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: an idiot. I don't like hearing that. The thing is,

581
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: if you wear a celebrity, I feel like you'd try

582
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Speaker 1: and be extra nice every time you wear at a

583
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: hotel because people talk and people would recognize you. But

584
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: it'll be exhausting to be that on all the time.

585
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: I know, and they always that hotel, so they obviously

586
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: just want to be left alone. It's not something like

587
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: when we go to a hotel. It's a novelty, but

588
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: not for them. They probably just want to be back

589
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: at their mansion. Now. I want to know what would

590
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: be on your list of demands at a hotel if

591
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: you were a celebrity.

592
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: I didn't even know you could give them a list

593
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: of demands. Of course you can, they want you to

594
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: stay there.

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00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: I'd love to do that thing where you just demand

596
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: a certain color of eminem's. I love peanut eminem so

597
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: I probably say just blue and green peanut eminem's.

598
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: Why blue and green? Do you prefer them? Or you

599
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 2: just like the color?

600
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Speaker 1: Now that I say that, there's a funny comment about

601
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Speaker 1: the green ones, But no, the green ones.

602
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 2: Make you horny or something that's not.

603
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: People are not going to know that because that is

604
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: a very old reference to the footy show that used

605
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: to be on.

606
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: But they know.

607
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an advertising campaign as well. If people

608
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: want to know more, post about in the Facebook group

609
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: and we'll fill you. Yeah. Well, the reason I say

610
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: blue and green is not for that reason. It's because,

611
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: for some reason, to the eye, they're more delicious because

612
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: they're a blight and brighter flavor. Like for some reason,

613
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: yellow is my favorite color, like just generally, but I

614
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: hate yellow lollies and yellow chops.

615
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: I feel like it's.

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00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Quite demeaning to ask somebody to sort through Eminem's Like

617
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: that actually seems like a real celebrity demand. I've just

618
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: thought of one. I would want a brand new pillow

619
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Speaker 1: because I bring my own pillow case to hotels because

620
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: I just the thought of lying on this pillow that

621
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: the other, you know, someone the night.

622
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: Before slept on. It's kind of grow.

623
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: I put on my list that i'd want all new,

624
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: like brand new bedding, towels, and also cups and crockery,

625
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than having a look at a

626
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: hotel glass and looking at it knowing that it's probably

627
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: not been cleaned, and I don't like how they sit

628
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. I'd also want chilled coke zero from

629
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: a can. I remember seeing a story, actually glass bottle.

630
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: I remember seeing a story and I think it's the

631
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: remote control and the glass in the hotel room are

632
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: meant to be the most dirt, like the dirtiest items

633
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah. Actually I would want someone to go

634
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: through the hotel with one of those lights that they

635
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: used to have hotel No the Blue law before I

636
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: was in there, to let me know off it was

637
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: all right to stay well, Amy and I actually staying

638
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: at a hotel in Sydney this week, And you guys

639
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: are actually setting me off because I always feel sit

640
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: going into a hotel, even if it's cleaner to my house.

641
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: Why don't you think of a wish list of what

642
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: you'd want when you're there, not that you're going to

643
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: get it? Do what I do, Like, I don't even

644
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: like I will sleep in the bed and I have

645
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: to have socks on. I have to have like either

646
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: my pajama pants or my trappants. I don't want any

647
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: skin touching the sheet.

648
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 2: I'm really weird like that. I'm a bit of a germophobe.

649
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 1: It's actually ridiculous because they would have just cleaned the sheets,

650
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: like they'd be cleaner than your own sheets that you've

651
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: probably left on your bed for ally. But it's my

652
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: own grime and dirt, like I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It does grace me out when I think about it

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Speaker 1: too much. It's funny you say that because I saw

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Speaker 1: a TikTok from doctor Carl and he was talking about

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Speaker 1: how often you should clean your sheets.

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Speaker 2: Take a guess. I think it's once every week, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's meant to be twice a week.

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Speaker 2: And they sed us a week yea.

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Speaker 1: And they said if you sleep nude, then they'll basically

661
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Speaker 1: be pooh particles in your sheets. And they said you

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Speaker 1: have pets, that you should wash them. I think it

663
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Speaker 1: was like every three days. I'm like, geez, definitely not

664
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Speaker 1: doing that. I'm usually really good at getting gifts to Michael,

665
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Speaker 1: I'm all about baby things at the moment. Martha Kellerfatitas

666
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Speaker 1: celebrated second baby shower over the weekend. It was two

667
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Speaker 1: weekends in a row for Martha, who originally had a

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Speaker 1: sponsored shower with Target. Yeah. So it was Martha's mother, Mary,

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Speaker 1: who is also a former Big Brother contestant, who threw

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Speaker 1: the surprise baby shower for her daughter.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: The shower was said to be for Martha's friends and

673
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: family and was held at her parents' house, which was

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Speaker 1: pretty interesting considering only just last week she had a

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Speaker 1: big baby shower that made headlines across you know, daily mail.

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Speaker 1: So that's basically saying that the previous baby shower was

677
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Speaker 1: for Target's influencer guest list. Well, exactly, because we were

678
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Speaker 1: debating on the show last week, well why was Steph

679
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Speaker 1: Claire Smith and Nadia Bartel there? Like a lot was Laura.

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Speaker 2: Hensher doing that?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know they were friends, and it seems that

682
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: they must just be on Target's influencer VIP list. So

683
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Speaker 1: I think that's necessarily true. I think that they might

684
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Speaker 1: be near friends and it was convenient that they could

685
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Speaker 1: come along new friends that met at the previous Target

686
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Speaker 1: influencer event. Help. I can't, Sorry, Sophie, I'm going to

687
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Speaker 1: shoot that down.

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Speaker 2: That is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The fact that they had to have a second baby

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Speaker 1: shower with Martha's legitimate friends and family. Imagine how annoyed

691
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Speaker 1: you'd be if you weren't invited to the first one.

692
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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I'm at the second one. What did

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Speaker 1: the second one look like?

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Speaker 2: It was pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking the other day about how Martha

696
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: is quite noble to live at home, but when I

697
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Speaker 1: caught a glimpse of the house, the family house, I'm like, oh,

698
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'd like to move in.

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Speaker 2: It's bloody nice.

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Speaker 1: So they had a marquee out the back, and Mary

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Speaker 1: had said that they managed to get it all done,

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Speaker 1: like all set up, in an hour, because Martha had

703
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Speaker 1: obviously popped out. I called bullshit on this. Or they

704
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Speaker 1: literally had a team of fifty people.

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Speaker 2: Because so it was a surprise baby shower. Yes, it

706
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Speaker 2: was a big surprise.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, So all her friends were in the

708
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Speaker 1: hallway waiting for her on this like grand staircase. So

709
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Speaker 1: when Martha opened the door, she got a massive surprise

710
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Speaker 1: because there was literally about one hundred people there. Now,

711
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Speaker 1: in terms of the setup, they had light blue and

712
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Speaker 1: green balloon garlands. They also had stuffed toy bunny rabbits

713
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Speaker 1: on the tables with white flowers. The crockery theme looked

714
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Speaker 1: like it was a Greek style. It looked really nice.

715
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Very Mark and her cousin had made the most beautiful

716
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Speaker 1: cake and desserts. Mary was also keen to point out

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Speaker 1: the vendors there, so they had a guy making cocktails.

718
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Speaker 1: They also had a Gilati cart and it was almost

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Speaker 1: as if she was promoting them a little bit too

720
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Speaker 1: much on Instagram. I have a feeling they may have

721
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Speaker 1: got a bit of a deal going. Maybe they got

722
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Speaker 1: it for free, but they didn't actually disclose what the

723
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Speaker 1: partnership was, so we don't think that any of the

724
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: styling there was done by Target because it actually I've

725
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Speaker 1: seen a lot of rabbits at Target, but I think that's.

726
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Speaker 2: Just for Easter.

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00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: Well. Her theme originally at the Target baby shower was

728
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Speaker 1: Peter Rabbit, so maybe they wanted to keep it going

729
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: at this one. But I mean, they possibly could have

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Speaker 1: been from the Target event. I don't know if that

731
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Speaker 1: was the same soft toy rabbit, but it definitely looked

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Speaker 1: more Martha and her mum's style. I think it is

733
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Speaker 1: fairly obvious that this first baby shower was a complete

734
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: spawn con event. Target's whole marketing plan seems to be

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Speaker 1: to pretend that influencers are throwing a genuine event, when

736
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: in fact they are blatant sponsorship opportunities, and that's why

737
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Speaker 1: I was so shocked when this popped up on Martha's

738
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Speaker 1: Instagram story. Interestingly, she hasn't posted on her feed yet.

739
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Speaker 1: I mean she may after we've recorded this, but I

740
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Speaker 1: think that it just shows how disingenuine that event was

741
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Speaker 1: to begin with. Interestingly, Martha has removed any photos that

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Speaker 1: she previously had posted at the Target baby shower, so

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Speaker 1: really she had Yeah, so she had a carousel of

744
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: a lot of images, and last week I think when

745
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: our episode dropped, they were removed.

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Speaker 2: That's so weird.

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Speaker 1: I did notice though, that there was a sign at

748
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: the baby shower like the second one, and it was

749
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Speaker 1: a cartoon of what Martha had been wearing to the

750
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Speaker 1: original baby shower. So it's not like she didn't like

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Speaker 1: the photos. Like someone could be like, oh, maybe she

752
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: took it down because she didn't like the photos of herself.

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Speaker 2: There seems to.

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Speaker 1: Be more to it. I wonder if people have dubbed

755
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: her into the ad standards board or something and she's

756
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: had to archive it, or I wonder if it has

757
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: to do with the ato's news stance, where whatever sponsorship

758
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: opportunity you get, you then have that money go towards

759
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: your billet the end of the year. Most brands would

760
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: have a contract that said you have to keep up

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Speaker 1: the post for X amount of time, and I highly

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Speaker 1: doubt it would only be a couple of days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it just indicates that more's going on behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: and it's clear that she did bend a few rules

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Speaker 1: with this baby shower. Oh I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what targets next influencer event is.

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Speaker 2: That is so fetch, Gretchen, Stop trying to make Fetch happen.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Mail has reported on a rumor that a

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Speaker 1: high profile Australian female influencer has grown a micro penis

771
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Speaker 1: from being on too many steroids. Yes, you heard that correctly.

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Speaker 1: That was genuinely reported on by the Daily Mail. They wrote,

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Speaker 1: if the gossip is to be believed, the high profile

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Speaker 1: woman has taken it so many anabolic steroids that her

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Speaker 1: clitteress has grown into an appendage that resembles a micro penis.

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Speaker 1: The media publication also noted that the influencer's voice has

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Speaker 1: deepened in recent times. They went on to say that

778
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: they haven't named the influencer for legal reasons, but they

779
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: claimed that she has been using performance enhancing drugs for

780
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Speaker 1: years and was now experiencing the serious side effect of those.

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00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: The article then went on to list the side effects

782
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: of prolonged use of steroids. I found this article disgusting

783
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Speaker 1: because firstly, they're trying to attract attention by saying that

784
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Speaker 1: a female influencer has grown a micro penis, which is

785
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: actually factually incorrect because you have to have you get

786
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: a micro penis from birth. Yeah, you don't just grow one. No,

787
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: you can't grow one because of steroids. And we were

788
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: talking before about medical misinformation that that headline is incredibly

789
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: deceptive to what's actually going on. I mean they did

790
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Speaker 1: say it looks like a micro penis and explained exactly

791
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: the glitterist that has grown, but they don't even know

792
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: that either. They're just speculating here. It's absolutely foul and

793
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: it's leading to a guessing game where people are, oh,

794
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: who is this impact. That's why I'm surprised that they

795
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: would write this story. I mean they did mention. For

796
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Speaker 1: legal reasons, they can't name the person, but if you

797
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: think about it, Australia has a certain number of I mean,

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Speaker 1: they haven't said fitness influencer, but it's certainly obvious that

799
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: it's someone in the fitness industry if they're referencing steroids.

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Speaker 2: But really, if I was a high.

801
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: Profile Australian fitness influencer, I'd be pretty pissed off about this,

802
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: particularly because I also know who they're trying to reference

803
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: it because there is a threatened tatle life at the

804
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: moment that this person from the Daily Mail has clearly sourced.

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00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 2: No, they're factual evidence.

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00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: So what I've heard is that a lot of people

807
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: who follow this influence have actually reached out to The

808
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: Daily Mail and told them, Yeah, but they're on tattle

809
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Life discussing it. And if you come up with this plan,

810
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: I understand, but I'm just saying, it's not the reporter

811
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: reading it. They've actually had people reaching out to them

812
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: telling them this. It's pretty disgusting. But I've noticed so

813
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: many articles like this popping up. There have been so

814
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: many articles that have stemmed from influencer updates Q and

815
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: as as well, and they'll do like they think just

816
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: because they don't put a photo up of the influencer

817
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: that it's okay. Yeah. I was really surprised by that

818
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, we are talking about it today,

819
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: but I wanted to talk about it because I found

820
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: it really disgusting and also very body shamy, like we

821
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on in this influencer's life, and

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: I just think it's pretty gross that people have gone

823
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: and kind of come up with this plan to humiliate

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Speaker 1: this person even further.

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00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: Well, they were.

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Speaker 1: Talking about it on the Carl and Jackie O Show

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Speaker 1: this morning, which is obviously the biggest radio show in Sydney,

828
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: and I mean there'd probably be lots of people ringing

829
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: in and giving their suggestions.

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Speaker 2: They didn't name anybody, was a witchhunt of who it was.

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Speaker 1: They were joking that this was the biggest news happening

832
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: in the world right now, poking fun at the article.

833
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: But I just thought, wow, this has made the top

834
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: rated radio show in Sydney. I just think it's also

835
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: gross from the perspective that there's been a lot of

836
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: work done to have women accept that there are a

837
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: lot of different volvers and they look different and you know,

838
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: shouldn't be ashamed of what your volver looks like. And

839
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: then we've got this story that's literally saying, oh, look

840
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: at this woman. She's disgusting. It also seems a bit

841
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: transphobic as well, because it's talking about a woman with

842
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: a micro penis and that's disgusting. I just found the

843
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: whole thing so often. I can't believe that there's articles

844
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: like this in twenty twenty three. I understand it's the

845
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Daily Mail. But yeah, I think there needs to be

846
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: some sort of standards here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's time to wrap things up on

849
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Speaker 1: that note. This podcast was recorded on the traditional land

850
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay

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Speaker 1: respect to elders past and present.