Speaker 1: The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast brought you Hello am My,
Speaker 1: Gremlins and Goblins. We are backed podcast edition for me
Speaker 1: taking selfies off herself. So whom's for? What? We do
Speaker 1: not know? Boy?
Speaker 2: Not really my mum.
Speaker 1: Either way, you don't need to share your business, It's okay, But.
Speaker 2: Any opportunity I'm just waiting to get into a relationship
Speaker 2: so I can completely decimate it by sharing personal information.
Speaker 1: Oh will you? Yeah? Oh fantastic.
Speaker 2: You run out of material, flex, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: the trenches.
Speaker 1: Always think, what do you mean running out? You post
Speaker 1: ten stories a day. It's not even cracking the surface.
Speaker 2: So let's get to it.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Frooms on Catera. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: we're about to play. I don't want to call it
Speaker 1: my favorite game because it's not. Also because there's apparently
Speaker 1: no games. There are no games here. It's just life
Speaker 1: experiences share between the two of us. But we do
Speaker 1: this thing called sibling rivalries where we troll the internet
Speaker 1: for a to f list celebrity who happen to be
Speaker 1: siblings by circumstance or by bloodline doesn't matter to us,
Speaker 1: and we decide who is the better sibling. I have
Speaker 1: lost I don't know, four or five weeks, i'd think
Speaker 1: I won one of them. I think I took it
Speaker 1: too seriously. That's why I won like I wasn't backing down.
Speaker 1: But every week since I've lost my morale and I
Speaker 1: actually have nothing to give. So will I forfeit this round?
Speaker 1: Who knows, but I would rather forfeit than lose.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you're in luck. Today's siblings are not twins.
Speaker 2: Someone say they're not even related, but they do come
Speaker 2: from the same universe, and without each other, the other
Speaker 2: one couldn't exist. We are talking about two cartoon characters
Speaker 2: that are close to my heart today.
Speaker 1: In the pen is in the pen in the ring
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Is it not called a pen?
Speaker 1: That's where pigs play?
Speaker 2: Okay, well these are Some would say these are willy
Speaker 2: beast kind of creatures. It is Sir Shrek and Donkey,
Speaker 2: and naturally I'm Shrek, of course, and your Donkey, despite
Speaker 2: your ogre like appearance.
Speaker 1: For those of you who have not noticed, that wasn't
Speaker 1: a burn. Our producer Brook has a Shrek tattoo, which
Speaker 1: on first glance looked oddly like me. And that's something
Speaker 1: to say, I look like Shrek. It's to say that
Speaker 1: tattoo of Shrek looked like me. Do with that information
Speaker 1: what you will, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna start off with Shrek and then we're
Speaker 2: gonna hit a break and you're gonna rebut sure, so
Speaker 2: just start off Shrek an absolute Iconon how old is Shrek,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say forty. I'm gonna say at time of filming,
Speaker 2: he was probably twenty nine. Okay, he was getting older,
Speaker 2: got it. He just met fi owner. They had a
Speaker 2: baby later on, so he's around forty five. He is
Speaker 2: very confident despite his natural unattractiveness. That's subjective, Okay, this
Speaker 2: is true, take it back. He is very open about
Speaker 2: his bowel movements, which I find quite inspiring. He is
Speaker 2: a realist. He's living in the realm of Yes, I
Speaker 2: eat my burp, I live in a swamp. He's not
Speaker 2: trying to be anyone but Shrek, and I find that
Speaker 2: really admirable. What's more, he.
Speaker 1: What are Shrek's species?
Speaker 2: Shrek species is Ogre.
Speaker 1: I thought Ogre's had one eye, no cyclops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, different, different mystical creature.
Speaker 1: Ogre's real.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, there's many people that I've met that
Speaker 2: are quite like Shrek.
Speaker 1: So you believe in ogres are not aliens?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. Okay, I'm looking on.
Speaker 1: Cancel frooms, please cancel hat. He's gone too far.
Speaker 2: So in conclusion, Shrek is far better than Donkey because
Speaker 2: he is never pretending to be anyone but Shrek.
Speaker 1: That's really hot.
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing on Marb Of all ogres everywhere,
Speaker 2: Shrek is the better civil And now you've got to
Speaker 2: convince me why don't get is actually the greater of
Speaker 2: the Shrek universe.
Speaker 1: I want to start off my debate with a confession.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to hear what you're about to say.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I've what Shrek wants maybe and
Speaker 1: that would have been in high school in some kind
Speaker 1: of substitute teachers class. And I want to be honest.
Speaker 1: Cartoons are not for me. Animated situations not for me.
Speaker 1: I don't even really know Shrek's story. Yeah, like I know,
Speaker 1: Shrek a swamp guy Fiona, Like did he even not
Speaker 1: want to date her at one point? Which is like
Speaker 1: over on ogre crime, you know, like a people or good.
Speaker 1: So really struggled with this one. I googled Donkey. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Eddie, Murphy did play Donkey. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's coming together. So now that that's
Speaker 1: out of the way, they're not even the same species, Babe.
Speaker 2: Nah, but they're besties.
Speaker 1: I don't argue with me, okay, So I vote that
Speaker 1: Donkey is the better pseudo sibling of Shrek for these reasons.
Speaker 1: There are forty million donkeys in the world, approximately, and
Speaker 1: how many do you know by name? Not one, which
Speaker 1: leads me to believe that Donkey is not only supreme generally,
Speaker 1: but as for some reason, managed to transcend the expectations
Speaker 1: and the social clout of all donkeys, making this Donkey
Speaker 1: the best creature period. Secondly, I think that someone who's
Speaker 1: made a career out of being an understudy, a right
Speaker 1: hand man, like a second in command, it's a tricky
Speaker 1: place to be, and I think Donkey's done a better
Speaker 1: job at holding down the fort. I think that Shrek
Speaker 1: was bestowed the opportunity to be a front man, and
Speaker 1: I think without the movie titled Shrek, he wouldn't have
Speaker 1: made it very far.
Speaker 2: So in this scenario, let's now put ourselves into the playpen.
Speaker 2: Who's Shrek and Who's Donkey?
Speaker 1: I feel like Shrek and Donkey are archetypes, and we
Speaker 1: are all Shrek and Donkey.
Speaker 2: Very very considerate answer.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that good? I'm giving politician?
Speaker 2: Well, I think for this round, I want you one.
Speaker 1: Yep, you think, yeah you did? Do you think it's
Speaker 1: because I did this reverse psychology thing where I set
Speaker 1: you up as if I wasn't going to go hard,
Speaker 1: as if I wasn't gonna annihilate you in the ring.
Speaker 1: So if I wasn't gonna lay down the cavel, it's
Speaker 1: nice to win. It's also nice to remember that life
Speaker 1: is but a few conversations of nonsense. If you needed
Speaker 1: permission to take everything approximately forty six percent less. Seriously,
Speaker 1: let us lead by example. You're listening to Flex and
Speaker 1: frooms on. If you ever wondered if there was a
Speaker 1: dating app where you could swipe left or right and
Speaker 1: find the love of your life based on shared dislikes,
Speaker 1: It exists, kind of ish. The app is called Hater
Speaker 1: ha te hater, kind of like cater with h there's
Speaker 1: word association. I was looking at Shark Tank because I
Speaker 1: do like to see what call inventions get made and
Speaker 1: what you know entrepreneurs are making and doing anyway, So
Speaker 1: like years and years and years ago, this guy goes
Speaker 1: on Shark Tank. He has this great idea for a
Speaker 1: dating app that you swipe based on shared dislikes. So
Speaker 1: it has a catalog of four thousand different things, from
Speaker 1: countries to foods, from like garana to hot dogs, from
Speaker 1: pigs to pugs, and basically you swipe left or right
Speaker 1: to like, like, or dislike, and then the algorithm will
Speaker 1: start showing you people who have the same shared dislikes
Speaker 1: as you. Then from there you have the option to
Speaker 1: reach out after someone and say, like, hey, like I
Speaker 1: like or dislike that thing well, and then you're meant
Speaker 1: to fall in love. And the theory behind it is
Speaker 1: that it is like scientifically proven that people are able
Speaker 1: to bond quicker and at a more timely pace with
Speaker 1: shared dislikes than shared likes. If we both say, oh,
Speaker 1: my goodness, we hate.
Speaker 2: We hate fill it a fish from McDonald's.
Speaker 1: No, I don't mind it.
Speaker 2: Oh we hate chicken nuggets with no sauce.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that.
Speaker 2: We hate when the ice cream machine is broken.
Speaker 1: No, you know what I hate when when I'm at
Speaker 1: a restaurant with someone and their meal is wrong and
Speaker 1: they complain about it. To the table, but they won't
Speaker 1: tell the person, the waitress, the waiter that it's wrong.
Speaker 1: I hate shut up, fix it or keep your mouth shut. Yep,
Speaker 1: you have two options two. I hate that. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you put that on an app, but that's
Speaker 1: what I hate. Do you have any more hates or
Speaker 1: can I move on? That's I think you should give
Speaker 1: us one.
Speaker 2: I hate it when people clump their feet. Some people
Speaker 2: just go clump, clump, clump.
Speaker 1: I'm a foot dragger.
Speaker 2: No, don't tell me this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 2: In those new and true babiesrself. You got little plastic
Speaker 2: shoes on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a little slide I'm dragging picking up my
Speaker 1: knees though, no, no time. Alas, this app was a thing.
Speaker 1: It went on Shark Tank, Mark Cuban like state ten
Speaker 1: percent at two hundred thousand. I don't know what happened,
Speaker 1: but then it just ceased to exist. It got two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand downloads and then done, gone forever, which led
Speaker 1: me to believe. Obviously, people can talk shoot all day
Speaker 1: about dating apps. I don't think they have the best reception,
Speaker 1: and this one feels like it wouldn't be any better.
Speaker 1: But where did it go? It could have revolutionized dating
Speaker 1: for everyone. It could have really like revised the way
Speaker 1: we like view connections, because realistically, I don't think that
Speaker 1: I'll find the love of my life saying like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I hate when insert dumb thing here, it's
Speaker 1: not reasonable. But I also don't think I'll find the
Speaker 1: love of my life by swiping through a bunch of
Speaker 1: people and picking one that has a good jaw.
Speaker 2: I tend to actually exactly agree with you. I think
Speaker 2: the hater thing gives you fodder. Like you say, it's
Speaker 2: easier to bond with people when you hate the same things.
Speaker 2: And then when you're on the date, let's say you
Speaker 2: meet up with someone from a regular dating app like
Speaker 2: Cinder or dumble Nice or Slayer, I don't know what
Speaker 2: that is.
Speaker 1: Raya, Raya, Raya.
Speaker 2: You can say you both like Hawaii, but like often,
Speaker 2: when you really like something, you haven't actually mentally figured
Speaker 2: it out, whereas when you hate something, I think you're
Speaker 2: much more likely to try and cerebrally figure out why
Speaker 2: you reckon.
Speaker 1: I do so if I ask you, why do you
Speaker 1: like Shrek? You haven't thought about it, Just like that
Speaker 1: whoa worms for brains? Nothing's up there, You ask me
Speaker 1: why I like Twilight. I can write an essay and
Speaker 1: I won't get into it now because this is not
Speaker 1: the place for it. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I disagree, but I like where you're going with that one.
Speaker 1: I do, and I will follow you on any journey
Speaker 1: want to take me on. While we were searching for
Speaker 1: the app Hater in the app store, we came across
Speaker 1: a different app, also called hater. Very confusing, very confusing,
Speaker 1: but alas. It's called the hater Alert app, and it's
Speaker 1: your way to fight back against bullying of celebrities, businesses,
Speaker 1: and leaders who have been attacked for expressing their beliefs.
Speaker 1: Is this a how do you say? Anti cancel culture app?
Speaker 2: Must be?
Speaker 1: I think it is? Alas, get instant alerts when haters
Speaker 1: all caps target people and companies you support with boycotts
Speaker 1: and threats, and participate in a buycott campaign, buy cut,
Speaker 1: let's play on words to counter them, or simply use
Speaker 1: the app to conveniently share your support on social media.
Speaker 1: With hater Alert, you can be a leader in your
Speaker 1: community by always being the first to know and the
Speaker 1: first to react. It's a little bit genius. So how
Speaker 1: does it work?
Speaker 2: How does it come for you.
Speaker 1: So imagine somebody is a huge fan of you, so
Speaker 1: in the app, they'll tag, do a little google it
Speaker 1: on frooms, and when negative press comes up about you,
Speaker 1: whether it's on social media or a website, they'll get
Speaker 1: pinged and alert and they'll run to the comment section
Speaker 1: of that site and show support for you to counteract
Speaker 1: your canceling. Generally, what happens a brand gets canceled people
Speaker 1: start buying their stuff into their suggesting a buycot where
Speaker 1: when they start getting canceled, if you support the brand,
Speaker 1: keep buying up stock, you know, keep writing your comment,
Speaker 1: and you can counteract the cancelation.
Speaker 2: How often do you think people who cancel brands actually
Speaker 2: stop using them? For example, very rarely. Yeah, before that
Speaker 2: did something about one of the.
Speaker 1: Beauty brands, Drunk Elephant got canceled, and I'm like, okay, babe,
Speaker 1: that's two one hundred and fifty dollars serum, So you're
Speaker 1: gonna embur or. And then similarly, I think when Nike
Speaker 1: showed support for Colin Kaepernick when he kneeled during the game.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which game NFL, perhaps a football like
Speaker 1: an American football, A bunch of I guess I don't
Speaker 1: know what you'd want to call them who didn't stand
Speaker 1: for what Kapernick was standing for. Cut up the nikes
Speaker 1: and like, where boy cutting my we're cutting up the nikes, cutting, cutting,
Speaker 1: And he's like, well, now you're cutting into your own pockets. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is a genius app. I don't necessarily know if
Speaker 1: it has merit, but in terms of functionality, I know
Speaker 1: I for sure don't have brand loyalty enough to jump
Speaker 1: at any brand's defense. Really, yeah, what can I say?
Speaker 1: Do you want me to be on the front lines?
Speaker 1: Being like, I will stand on the front line on
Speaker 1: my own on behalf of thousands of people. No, but
Speaker 1: on the internet for way too long. I'm taking a
Speaker 1: what do you call it? Bleachers? Put me on the bench.
Speaker 1: I am not on the starting eight. I do not
Speaker 1: want to be on the front lines. No, thank you,
Speaker 1: what about you for me? No?
Speaker 2: I haven't spent that much time on the internet, but
Speaker 2: the time that I have spent, I keep out of it.
Speaker 1: It's lawless, lawless, But anyway, go download the hater app.
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called? Hater alert? Hater Alert. It's
Speaker 1: such a good name. Down lad hater alert. Give it
Speaker 1: a quick whirlie, tell your friends to tell a friend,
Speaker 1: and let's counteract a bit of hate with love. Flex
Speaker 1: and FROs. Flex is about to tell me about a
Speaker 1: game that she plays, not just a game, but some
Speaker 1: really exciting news for everyone. So I downloaded this game
Speaker 1: called Ancestors. I don't want to butcher what it's about.
Speaker 1: Someone to read it. It's set in prehistoric Africa. You
Speaker 1: control a hominin, which I discovered as like an ape
Speaker 1: before it was an ape, but before it evolved into
Speaker 1: an ape. I don't know, man. Anyway, Basically, you're tasked
Speaker 1: to ensure the survival of these ape things and to
Speaker 1: facilitate their evolution. I'm like, okay, a survival game. I
Speaker 1: love this, and so I, you know, log in. I
Speaker 1: don't make a character because you're just like a random
Speaker 1: ape anyway. The first thing they tell me is that,
Speaker 1: like some other ape, baby has gone missing. I gotta
Speaker 1: use my survival instincts to find it. I'm like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: what do I do? They're like, exactly what do you do?
Speaker 1: I gotta like set up shelter for the other apes.
Speaker 1: Don't freak out. I've got to like use my sense
Speaker 1: of hearing to like sense for danger. I gotta like,
Speaker 1: try all these barriers if they're poison or not poison? Oh, no,
Speaker 1: they're poisonous. What do I do make medicine all while
Speaker 1: being an ape?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: It's actually so complex. And it taught me to things
Speaker 1: about myself. Number one, I'm so lucky that I wasn't
Speaker 1: in charge of evolution because I'm here being like wiki ancestors,
Speaker 1: gameplay how to because I had no idea. They said,
Speaker 1: build shelter. I'm like, there's no cement in the jungle, bab.
Speaker 1: It turns out shelter just a few leaves on the ground.
Speaker 2: How crazy is it to think that we exist because
Speaker 2: there was apes doing that?
Speaker 1: Well, we don't know that for a fact. Alien Then
Speaker 1: that led me to think how many of my senses
Speaker 1: am I actually using for survival? Because, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I just used my phone for survival. I remember I
Speaker 1: went to a market the other day and I was
Speaker 1: fully eating a burger and then my friend was like,
Speaker 1: is that mold? And I was like, oh, huh it is.
Speaker 1: I didn't even check. I just assumed the burger would
Speaker 1: be fine, and I ate it. I was reading a
Speaker 1: book about fear and how your gut in the tummy
Speaker 1: has like one hundred million nerve receptors, and so trusting
Speaker 1: your gut should be like more recipresent the bloody brain, babe.
Speaker 1: So trusting your gut should be what you should be doing,
Speaker 1: because your gut knows shit your brain doesn't. It's not
Speaker 1: safe out here for us because if I'm not trusting
Speaker 1: my sense of smell, the taste, the touch, and my
Speaker 1: instinct is to just wiki thing when I need guidance,
Speaker 1: I'm the first to go. My whole life. I've had
Speaker 1: this belief that if the apocalypse was to hear, I'd
Speaker 1: be safe.
Speaker 2: There is no way I'm seeing you lying down finding
Speaker 2: a comfortable spot. Yeah, get your little juice boxes and rotting.
Speaker 1: Know. The other day I was like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: I want to make mashed potato, but I don't have
Speaker 1: a potato masher. I was googling how to make mashed
Speaker 1: potato without a without a potato masher, just use a fork, babe.
Speaker 1: The fuck flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: You're with Flexing Frames, and right now we're going to
Speaker 2: play a game which I think is my favorite in
Speaker 2: the Flexing Frames universe. It is called love line.
Speaker 1: It's where is it a game or is it a
Speaker 1: really earnest attempt at being hopeless? People in love some advice.
Speaker 2: Let's go with the ladder. These people are desperate and
Speaker 2: they need our help. This is where love line where
Speaker 2: you send in your love dilemmas. We will try to
Speaker 2: solve them, and we will cap it all off with
Speaker 2: a song which we think will really drive home the message.
Speaker 2: This is today's love line. I'm a thirty year old
Speaker 2: female dating a thirty two year old male. My boyfriend
Speaker 2: has so many amazing qualities, but his teeth are really bad.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I can get past it. I
Speaker 2: have dated a ton of assholes who are very good
Speaker 2: looking but always ended up breaking my heart. When I
Speaker 2: met Dave, I don't just think she was meant to
Speaker 2: say his name. But when I met Dave, he was
Speaker 2: good to mee at the start, but he was really
Speaker 2: not my type at all. But we click on a
Speaker 2: personality level, and I will say the sex is amazing.
Speaker 1: His front teeth, We'll going two steps forwards, one step back.
Speaker 1: Everytime it wasn't not my type. Sex is amazing. We clicked.
Speaker 2: I don't know his frontier old bridges, and when he smiles,
Speaker 2: it gets so turned off.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Let me google?
Speaker 2: I think when they're like caps, bridges teeth. I know
Speaker 2: this sounds so vain, but teeth have always been pretty
Speaker 2: important to me. He claims he's going to get them fixed,
Speaker 2: but it's going to cost a fortune, and I don't
Speaker 2: think it's true. I don't know if I can get
Speaker 2: over it, but I want to because he's an incredible
Speaker 2: boyfriend who loves me. What do I do?
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out what bridges are.
Speaker 2: Does anybody know what a bridge this is?
Speaker 1: I'm that pickies and it's like, I'm sure it's when
Speaker 1: you shave down a tooth and get a new tooth
Speaker 1: put on top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like veneers, but bridges.
Speaker 1: Then what's wrong if these? If they're good, maybe they're bad.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're really chunky, Okay, and then compared, maybe his
Speaker 2: other teeth are like not that nice.
Speaker 1: It seems the only thing that would be right to
Speaker 1: say in this instance is that they need to break up.
Speaker 1: Girls saying that. I think that's what she's saying.
Speaker 2: Do you think they should?
Speaker 1: Okay? Picture this. You're dating someone that you really like,
Speaker 1: are you very imagined. Okay, let's stop there the camera.
Speaker 1: You're dating someone you really like, Are you really gonna
Speaker 1: message flex and Rooms to ask if you should break
Speaker 1: up with them because you don't like their teeth? I
Speaker 1: feel like you want to break up with them, so
Speaker 1: just do it. You won't back yourself. Dump him?
Speaker 2: You know. I love how it always ends in dump him.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel like this is what happens. I don't
Speaker 1: know what kind of state of mind I would be
Speaker 1: in to message us to give people advice on their
Speaker 1: very unique situations if the answer wasn't always to break up.
Speaker 2: Definitely, in a past life, I have not been able
Speaker 2: to get over certain features in a partner. For example,
Speaker 2: I have a high forehead, and I love my high
Speaker 2: aristocratic forehead. That's a high forehead, Like it's like more
Speaker 2: than a forehead. It's like a five head.
Speaker 1: Oh, a big forehead, big forehead. Okay, and I once dated,
Speaker 1: really I do.
Speaker 2: I will dart on this till if I push my
Speaker 2: hair backctually sizeable A quick look.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's pretty average. In my moday, I
Speaker 1: think it's is that not what foreheads look like? It's
Speaker 1: like a bit more on the larger side. It's aristocratic.
Speaker 2: It's English.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's English. It's aristocratic.
Speaker 2: And I once dated a man who had also a
Speaker 2: large forehead, and I get in this thing where like,
Speaker 2: I think it's because I'm personally there cannot be two
Speaker 2: of us. No, I was going to say, I'm always
Speaker 2: whenever i'm dating someone, I'm thinking about the offspring. From
Speaker 2: the minute we hit it off, I'm like, are we
Speaker 2: going to have hot babies? After having a lot of therapy,
Speaker 2: I realized it's because I feel self conscious little bit
Speaker 2: about the way that I look.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I can't be with someone who looks
Speaker 2: too similar to me because we'll have ugly babies. And
Speaker 2: I have ended relationships because of that. Thank you for
Speaker 2: admitting that it was hard, but it's true, and that's
Speaker 2: why I'm single. You've been listening to the Flexs and
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