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Speaker 1: Jam Mission with Jonesy and Amanda. I'm trying to follow

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Speaker 1: this story. I saw the headline Arthur Conan Doyle's estates,

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Speaker 1: who's Netflix for giving Sherlock Holmes too many feelings?

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Speaker 2: Yes, he wrote Sherlock Holmes, Yes, but did.

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Speaker 1: You hear what I just said? That he's suing for

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Speaker 1: too many feelings? And I've looked into the story and

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Speaker 1: it's a little confusing, but I'm trying to dilute it down.

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Speaker 1: So there's a new film coming out Netflix and Nola Holmes,

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Speaker 1: and they're arguing that Sherlock Holmes has feelings and he

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Speaker 1: respects women, and this violates violates copyright. So what I

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Speaker 1: can figure is happening here is that the early work

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Speaker 1: of Sherlock Holmes, as written by Arthur Conan Doyle, has

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Speaker 1: been sold into public domain. So all the work before

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Speaker 1: nineteen twenty three, most of the stories, are now in

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Speaker 1: public domain. So his estate doesn't have an ownership over

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Speaker 1: there anymore, right, But his later work they do have

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Speaker 1: ownership of. And in his later work, Conan Doyle made

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Speaker 1: Sherlock Holmes a bit more emotional because Arthur Conan Doyle's

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Speaker 1: life got harder after the war he lost a brother,

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Speaker 1: he lost his father, He became a more emotive. He

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Speaker 1: made Sherlock a more emotive character. So what the family

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Speaker 1: is now saying is in this new film, if he

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Speaker 1: has feelings, you don't own those. We own those feelings.

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Speaker 1: You only own the cooler loof one from all the

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Speaker 1: years ago. You can't depict him being emotional. We own that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't want an emotional Sherlock Holmes.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think these days when you see when they

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Speaker 1: remake old characters, they try and explore them further. Because

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Speaker 1: he's known as a man with a brain but not

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Speaker 1: a heart. You prefer him like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite Sherlock Holmes is bend de Cumberbudge.

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Speaker 1: Remember when we interviewed him say it, And in the

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Speaker 1: meetings we had about it, couldn't say his name. I

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Speaker 1: kept calling him Benderdick. And so when we went to

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Speaker 1: interview him, I said, good morning, Benderdick.

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Speaker 2: And you made it. You've ruined it for me. Now

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Speaker 2: I say that, is it possible not to? I blame

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Speaker 2: you for that. I should sue you for that. But

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Speaker 2: the thing about is Sherlock Hams is Sherlock Hams. You

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Speaker 2: don't want a dreadful movie like the thing that Will

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Speaker 2: Ferrell did.

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Speaker 1: This is what's interesting. So they've sued for any films

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Speaker 1: that involve him liking dogs they've said here, or having

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Speaker 1: any human warmth, being amenable to women, having actually a

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Speaker 1: friendly relationship with his sister, being nice to his sister.

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Speaker 1: They sue him for all of that stuff. But they

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Speaker 1: didn't sue for that terrible as you say twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: film with Will Ferrell called Holmes and Watson and this

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Speaker 1: is a quote, presumably because being a big, dopey, surprisingly

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Speaker 1: unfinny goober wasn't included in the feelings.

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Speaker 2: You know, when we ended the feud Will Ferrell about that,

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Speaker 2: the movie company said, we said, will we go and

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Speaker 2: see the movie? And they said, oh no, there's no need.

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Speaker 2: You know that the movie's going to stay with the

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Speaker 2: movie company says that you don't need to see the movie.

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Speaker 1: I needed more bend dick.

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Speaker 2: Stop it, because I'll talk to him and I'll end

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Speaker 2: up saying it with join Z and Amanda