WEBVTT - GUEST: Reuben Kaye joins us! 👠 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.480 Is It Just Me Podcast by a couple of mitches. 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.280 Okay, Mitchell, I'm so excited for our guest today, truly, 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.799 truly one of the greats and someone that we were 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:12.760 meant to have on the show. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.160 Yeah quite a while ago. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:15.280 In a long time coming. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.040 A long time coming. The one and only Reuben Kay 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.320 is here. Hellover about gorgeous. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.840 I feels so good to be finally here. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.479 Oh, they tried to silence you. We were meant to 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:26.960 have you on this podcast the same week that you 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.840 were on the project. Yeah, no, some people might have 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.919 missed that. But yeah, a little something happened after our 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:34.640 project appearance, didn't it happen? 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.080 Did you and Willie Darli? You're not get along or something. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.519 I just think you're not doing something right. You're not 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:41.839 doing anything right if you're not pissing someone off. And 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.640 it was it was lovely for me to be back 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:45.880 in the muzzle for once. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:47.760 Yeah, I can imagine. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.559 So hold on, are you are you happy to tell 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:50.960 the joke you told on the project or do we 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:52.640 not go back to that stuff because I've. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.120 Been telling that joke for about eight years. Because I 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.400 love Jesus, I love any man who can get nailed 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.120 for three days straight and come back for more. 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:04.480 And all the hosts on the project laughed along, didn't 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:05.080 have an issue. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.399 Yeah, yeah, well of course, because it's a funny joke. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.119 It's a funny joke, but if you take it out 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.520 of context, what you see is someone queer sort of 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.720 poking a bear. And what I set up in the 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:20.679 joke prior was that this is actually about me receiving 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:24.840 hate from Christian people who use Jesus's name as a 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:29.400 way to, as you know, gets done, use Jesus's name 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.000 as a way to rile up abuse or hatred of 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.280 queer people. So I told the joke, but it's also 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.760 a joke that has existed in many forms before. And 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.240 I am not the first comedian to you know, go 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.000 after or poke fun at Christianity. But I do happen 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.960 to be a visibly queer one. So I feel like 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.200 sometimes it's a case of they don't care what the 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.080 joke is, They just might care a bit about who's 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:53.480 telling you. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.760 Yeah, you're an easy target for me. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.200 It's just like I've just learnt myself. You just don't 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.480 go then when it comes to religious jokes. I worked 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.800 here at KISSFM, At the same time that Kyle Sandaland's 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.360 made a joke about Virgin Mary, there were protests out 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.040 the front of the station holding signs. Mitch was getting 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.359 calls to his time slot at night with bomb threats 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.720 and stuff. So it's just like, even if you think 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.160 of a real Zinger, if you think it's harmless, just 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.799 don't go there. When it comes to religion, I find. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.640 I also think there's an element of people want to 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.160 live in a free and open society of tolerance, but 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.560 only if views that they find distasteful are not tolerated. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.240 You know, personally, to have a tolerant society means that 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.760 the one thing you can't be tolerant of is intolerance. Wow, 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:40.720 but it's an interesting time. I mean, we've gone very 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.200 heavy in I know, I love it. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.720 Yeah, we're all funny people. I swear to God we 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.880 will get there. But let's talk about Ukraine. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:52.000 Reuben, I've got some thoughts. I'm the only man less 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:53.639 likely to pull out than Putin. Let's guy. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.600 Can I just say, by the way, I was there 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.320 at the Sydney Comedy Festival showcase which you MC night 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:02.800 and some of the jokes you made that night. I 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.079 was like that makes the Jesus joke on the project 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:06.640 seem very fun child's play. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.240 Yeah, this is the thing that I'm amazed that of 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:15.519 all the horrible, awful, terrible, disgusting things that come out 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:18.240 of my mouth and sometimes go into it, this is 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.520 the thing. This is the thing that got me in trouble. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.520 It doesn't even have a swear word in it. It's 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.800 technically a pun at best, it's a dad joke. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.320 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but it worked. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.200 How does can you talk me through quickly? How a 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:33.920 pr crisis like that unfolds? 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:34.040 Like? 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.920 Do you do you know instantly? Do you know in 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:37.920 an hour? When does it? 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:38.160 Yeah? 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:38.880 How does do you do? 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:39.080 Do? 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.440 The producers go, Reuben, thanks for having you on. We'll 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.120 get you back on another time. And then does it 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.520 unfold the following days? 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.920 Can you refresh your Instagram and go, oh fuck? 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.440 Yeah? 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:51.640 I think we came off. Everything was lighted to shake, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.000 shook hands all the producers and said that was fantastic, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.520 that was brilliant. We loved it. And then as we left, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.320 I'm a social media whore, so I'm like looking and 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.840 looking and it's gaining traction and it's got like positive, positive, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.400 and and some negative. I'm like, that's okay as a 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.280 visibly queer person, that's what you get just as a 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.560 person or even as a person in the media. And 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.599 then I think I went to bed, and then I 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.920 was meant to be on ABC ABC Mornings the next morning, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:23.520 and I got to call at five am as I 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.279 was beginning to paint, being like, I think we might 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.160 just we might not. 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.040 Yeah down, yeah, okay. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.360 I'll just go back to bed. And then I woke 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.120 up again and I was like, oh, so then it 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.800 sort of became Yeah, then it was just very interesting, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:45.040 like Baby's first scandal as well. So it became equal 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.479 part sort of horrifying and fascinating to see how it 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.760 all unfolded. But the best part was the Sydney Comedy 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.200 Festival and my management, who were all coppying a whole 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:58.440 bunch of flak, absolutely stood up with me. Defended it, 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:02.960 defended me, excuse me, all looked after my my mental health, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.880 and even you know, Sam Taunton from the Project reached 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:08.560 out and said, hey, are you okay, how are you 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.280 doing and all this, which is nice. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:10.960 Yeah, that's nice. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:12.800 He gets it as a comic. It's rough. 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.560 And also now you're doing an Encore show in Sydney, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.160 So I feel like in many ways, sure a fuckload 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.360 of people were offended, but then now fuck load more 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:20.920 people want. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.000 To buy you know, light and shade. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:28.200 Look what people wanting to buy the tickets and we're 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:29.480 selling amazingly. 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:29.960 Yeah. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.200 I can't wait to get on stage at the end 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.200 More and it's going to be a show of a life. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.240 Oh my god, Well there's two show. There's there's two shows. 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.880 You're doing live and intimidating. If you're in Canberra, Hobart, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.400 the Gold Coast or Brizzy you can get live and intimidating. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.760 Then the Butcher's back the en More Theater first of July. 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:47.960 What are the two shows you just do? Like I 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:49.960 I got so much material, let me do too. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:55.040 That's exactly it. I'm not only a pariah. I'm a genius. 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.479 You must be a genius, because the idea of doing 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.560 two shows that once stresses me out. I'd be like, 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:02.599 which like halfway through, I've been order. 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:05.880 I've been on a national tour doing three different shows. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.960 Oh my god, brain, I've got a late night I've 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.400 got a late night show called the k Hole, which 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.800 is a line it's a lineup show, right, So that's 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:16.839 my grinder. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:19.840 Take it. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:25.200 I am currently under the desk. That's why I had 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:29.720 soup for breakfast. It'll be fine. So The Butcher's Back 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.800 is a huge show. It's a six piece band, full 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:37.159 horn section, costume changes, the whole thing. It's a It 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.640 charts my journey from childhood to the current day and 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.159 the music in it is just next. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.039 I don't know if you know this, but Rabon's got 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:47.920 quite some fucking pipes on him. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.400 Oh no, I'm well aware. Yeah that that that voice 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.200 comes right deep from the k hole. I can only 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.160 imagine where that voice rumiates. 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.600 And so how long have you been doing The Butcher's 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.719 Back for? Because I can imagine it'd be quite different 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:01.080 to like Opening Night. Now. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.360 Yeah, The Butcher's Back has existed in one form or 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.640 the other. It was born out of the first lockdown 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.800 in Melbourne. We created it in twenty twenty and we've 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.560 been touring it all of twenty twenty one. We were 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.880 jumping between states, going fuck, they're closing the borders in Perth. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.000 Run run get to the airport, jump on, get on 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.400 the planet. At one point we were in Darwin to 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.160 isolate for two weeks so we could get into Perth. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.360 So we realized we traveled ten thousand kilometers to get 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.640 to Perth just to do the gigs. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.080 Yeah, that is so a lot going from Darwin to Perth. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.640 Oh, it was like it was really Cowboy for a 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.200 whole year and I loved it. But the show has 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.120 sort of been going in one form or another and 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.240 evolving through since then. But we've never done Sydney and 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.600 it's my biggest show. So I want to bring the 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.240 big guns to the big smoke. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:57.880 I love that so much. I literally leave. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.760 You've been to my house meeting. I'm like a street 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.920 away from the end Moore Theater and I can see 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:04.440 the lights and the bannup from my bedroom window. So 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.880 I will I will be there. I'll be watching. 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:08.440 I can't wait. Which we should go. 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:11.360 You're both You're both going to be there. 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.520 Reuben ka dot com for anyone else he wants to 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:13.920 come along. 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:14.760 Yeah, get tickets. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:16.920 I've got gift bags with Kemin in it, just for 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:18.040 you two under your seats. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:22.160 Oh, I can't wait, Lovely, I truly pretending to know 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:22.640 what that is. 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.560 I know what ken mean is, but I'm a kind 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.240 of gay room and then if I even go near it, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.720 I will have a heart attack. It's either nfhyl access 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.320 or I'm not built for the party. Drugs not for me. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.000 Yeah, but also, as Hannah Gadsby said, there's a certain 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.760 game's favorite sound as a teacup hitting a saucer. Where's 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:40.720 that pride parade? 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.280 Yes, okay, yes, Peters of Kensington in mascot, that's where 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:46.560 that happens at the checkout. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.240 And then Live and Intimidating is the show that we're 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.920 taking we've been taking through this year. It's the news show. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.560 It was really forged in the fires of sort of 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.200 the project. Oh and it's a smaller show. It's me, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:04.719 three musos. It's a total vibe. I welcome everyone as 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:06.720 they come in with a hug, and I say welcome 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.560 home because a lot of people have only just discovered me, 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.200 and I want them to kind of see all of 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.200 the different facets of me. I want them to know that, yeah, 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:19.160 I'm loud, i'm dirty, I'm a good time, but there's 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:23.760 also something quite accessible, sensitive real about me. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.160 I also feel, ironically that you're not that intimidating because 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.840 if you're doing crowd work, you're actually you don't punch down, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.240 You're quite lovely to the audience, so they don't have 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.040 any reason to be nervous or intimidated come into the show, right. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.240 No, absolutely not, And in fact the crowd are really 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.839 safe in it. But also they're holding me as much 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.600 as I'm holding them. It's a really lovely intimate show. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.439 But we called it originally live and intimate. And then 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.000 I don't know if you know Ali McGregor, Oh, yeah, 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.199 she's a yeah, adam amazing opera sing a cabaret diba, 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.440 married to Adam Hill's showbiz icon. She just texted me 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.160 and said, shouldn't it be live intimidating to laugh emoji? 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.160 And I was like, stolen name change, Yeah, perfect lucking. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:06.520 That's the push that I get. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.920 No writer's credit. You do not get a percentage? 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.920 Is it just when podcast by a couple of midges? Ruben? 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.320 What do you like after you've finished a show? Because 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.920 I've found that I'm obviously much newer to stand up 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.840 than you, but I find that there's one of two 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.200 Mitchell's that I get after I come off stage. There's 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.240 one where I'm like, I'm going to keep the high 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.840 going I'm going out, I'm going drinking, or there's like 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.040 a little bit of post show depression. Everyone leave me alone. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.120 I never know which one it's going to be after 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:35.439 a show, so. 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.520 I I often get the second one because I'm giving 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:43.760 a lot and I'm very physical. So it the adrenaline 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.559 drop because you're being pumped with a huge amount of 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.200 adrenaline and a huge amount of serotonin and you've got 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.040 three hundred people or at the end more seventeen hundred 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:56.200 people like applauding and screaming. A human body is sort 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:01.480 of not used to receiving that, and then all the 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.160 adrenaline and serotonin once it's in you, it kind of 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.920 dissipates and you're left with her. You have to find 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.480 a way to manage the crash come down. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.800 How do you manage the crash? I'm asking because I 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.400 want to know, because I have to tell everyone around me. No, No, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.920 I'm not sad. It's not like the show went poorly. 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.040 I'm not bummed. I just fucking feel flat as buck 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:20.760 after a show. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:24.760 Sometimes two things you can either. I think if you 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.200 can time a drink and being around people at the 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.560 right time, you can keep the high going right and 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.560 then like you might have a party or you might 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:39.080 just be the transition is smoother, but I tend to 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.880 just sort of be alone, taken off the makeup after, 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:45.000 and that's it's hard to keep the buzz going when 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.040 you're on your own. So why I used to get 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.240 very depressed. And then my therapist, poor guy. Can you 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:56.319 imagine you imagine your therapist. Yeah, he's got a therapy, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:00.880 he should do it. Also a vet. Yes, he said. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.320 You need to realize the difference between sort of walking 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.400 into the river with your pocket full of stones and 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:12.120 what is a chemical drop? So rate it. Rate where 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.880 you're at out of ten so you can get a 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.120 sense of what the perspective is and think yourself, Am 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.480 I about to drop the toaster in the bath? Or 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.360 do I just need to eat something? Yes and go 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.800 to bed. You know, I think we all drop into 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.959 huge existential crises about our lives and then we go, oh, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.520 actually I think I just needed some veggimut on toast. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.320 Yes, yeah, yeah. 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.640 I feel like as queer entertainers, we all put ourselves 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:38.480 so much pressure on ourselves. 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.560 It's like, chill the fuck out. We're just making people laugh. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:43.080 We just want to have a bit of anal and 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.520 we just want to have like seven hours of sleep, right, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:45.839 Am I. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:49.480 Speaking for my all at the same time, Yes, yes. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.079 Sticking in me let me fall asleep, you know. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:55.880 Oh my God and other poems by Maya Angelou. I think. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.160 I think also there's a there's a reputation or there's 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:04.640 a cannon of amazing queer performers with really high standards 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.320 to really change the face of entertainment. So for any 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.120 queer performer who's trying to break through, they're looking at 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.000 the grates for inspiration, but also there's a little bit 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:18.000 of pressure to follow through. If they hit seventy percent 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:20.680 of the way there, burn it down, I'm terrible. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.360 Yeah, so you're one of those people that I look 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.040 at who I've started doing stand up shows for the 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.640 last two years. I think, and sometimes I see performers 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.800 like you where I'm like, fuck, should I be putting 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.640 more attention into my costumes, me hair, me makeup. I 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.640 just chucked my hair in a ponytail. I get out there, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.280 I'm all sweaty. I'm wearing no shoes half the time 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.439 because I don't want to overheat on the stage. I 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:42.480 run a bit hot Reuben. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.400 You see, I suggested my costume. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.320 Shit really needs some work, especially when I look at 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:48.000 people like you. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.040 Yeah, but the other part of it is you've got 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.880 to find Everyone has to find the thing that works 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:56.319 for them. You know, for me, it's eight pounds of 0:13:56.400 --> 0:14:00.280 lead based cosmetics, high heels and you know tea that 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:04.080 we're taken from a horse in Turkey. But for you, you, 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.520 it might be a top not you know, bare feet 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.199 and a trickle of sweat, and that might be exactly 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.560 what it is you need. I think, trust your body 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.320 and what you feel makes you feel the best. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.360 Yeah, okay, that's true advice, because like I look at 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.240 the outfits and things you wear, and I think, fuck, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.160 you're fabulous. But if I put that on, I'd be 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.200 so uncomfortable. It looks amazing, but I would fucking be 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.760 we put off the whole show and performing huge heels 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:31.360 and shit like ah. 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.440 I find it really difficult now to sing or be 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.120 on when I'm not in a heel. Really so used 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.080 to it now. I'm so used to it now. But also, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:42.920 no doubt you would look gorgeous and all these things, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:44.640 but stay away from my fucking gear. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.320 On a threat, I do like that. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.680 We're saying a more stripped back Reuben today. 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:52.800 Yeah, it's nice. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:54.440 You haven't even seen below the waist yet. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.600 I'd love to have you always been polished in all 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.600 the things that you do on Sage, with your costumes 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.440 and your makeup. Or do you ever look back at 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:05.800 old photos and think, fuck me, I've come a long 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.680 way since then. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.320 I'm gonna email you a picture of the first time, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.120 or can I just show it on the show? 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.440 Yeah? 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.000 I can show you on the screen. Obviously, everyone here 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:22.960 knows me as the beautiful and the gorgeous Ruben k. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.080 But what they don't realize is that the first time 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.440 I ever put on makeup, I look like that. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.600 Oh that's not makeup, that's face painting. My god. 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:34.880 Yeah that's buddings on a Saturday afternoon. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.920 And I just wanted you to know I felt like 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.080 I was serving high glam. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.360 Just for anyone who obviously can't see this, it's a podcast. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.440 Just think Edwards is a hands. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.080 Yeah, very Edwards hands. 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:52.480 It screams. Regional tour of cats is what it does. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:53.480 Oh you've come a long way. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.800 Wow, you have come a very, very long way. If 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.720 you want to go and see Ruben Reuben k dot Com, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.920 The Butcher's back in Sydney. The end more live and Intimidate. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.160 We'll go rewatch that project of a laugh. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.040 Reuben's so good to have you on. Thank you. Finally, 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.400 don't forget Mitchell Well, question shit, yeah go. 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.040 There's one question that we ask every guest. I'm certainly 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.680 not going to let you off the hook. I'm probably 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.760 more intrigued about your answer than any other guest. Yes, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.280 So every guest we ask them to tell us a 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.920 little thing in life they appreciate, just like the crunch 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.880 of an autumn leaf, for a crunch of a good apple, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.400 something like that, and then we add it. We add 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.840 it to our list of things better than drugs and 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.000 dick because we've got a lot of young adult listeners 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:34.480 who might be in a stage of life where they're 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:37.640 obsessed with drugs and dick, partying boys, what have you. 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.600 So we like to remind them that there's more to life. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.080 So what would you What would you say is better 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:41.840 than drugs and dick? 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:48.560 Resistance? What I think resistance if someone gives you pushback 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.400 on an idea or says I don't know if we're 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.040 going to be able to do that, or we can't 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.800 do that because no one's ever done it before. That's 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.000 the moment where I know I'm onto something, and that's 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.840 the moment I know I've got to keep pushing on 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.200 this or there's something here. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.159 So I did sorry. I thought we were still in 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.880 the gay sex realm. I thought you meant pushed back 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.280 on a cock, and I thought that's a great time. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.120 I know you did it is you feel sorry. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.040 I'm sorry. But resistance it's got more of a more 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:14.560 of a message. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.600 I love how you've switched from no, I'm a quiet gay, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.560 I'm a quiet girl, to stay home. I couldn't disgusting, 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:22.520 And now we find out that you're a funnel cake. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:28.040 No, but but ketamine and beautiful making love. Making love 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.480 is very different, Okay, there's. 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.520 A difference between making love and pushing back on a dick, 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.720 Like where is there's no line, don't choose the no. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:39.239 I love that. 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.040 So obviously that's something that you have faced and still face, Ruben, 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:44.119 I guess is resistance. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:44.600 Yeah. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.000 Every time I've gone on TV and they've said you 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.520 have to submit a script, and I submit a script, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:54.560 there's always someone somewhere going Okay, Okay, we just want 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.680 to we want to do this, and we're great. Give 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.200 me the parameters that I can wiggle, give me, give 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:01.880 me what I can work in and how I can 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:06.320 push my message into this within within your parameters or 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.400 can I expand these parameters? 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.480 So it's like the opposite of needing validation. If someone 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.560 tells you something it's not a good idea, you're like, 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:14.800 it must be great, then. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.280 A little bit, yes, I just think it's I think 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.520